 Excuse me when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shut down/restart properly. Where should this change be concerned?
 Excuse me, when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shutdown/restart properly. Where should this change be concerned?
 please help me
 What should I do?
[03:00] <ubptgbot> vairam_vs was added by: vairam_vs
[03:18] <ubptgbot> Peter Conrad was added by: Peter Conrad
 https://github.com/kuailexs/porting-log
 i do not know which is related to shutdown
 Still no port for op3T?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtYoRBdjQY0&feature=youtu.be&t=10
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cKy6U0bh.webp
[04:15] <ubptgbot> Daniel Bradford was added by: Daniel Bradford
[04:15] <ubptgbot> <Daniel Bradford> Hey! I was wondering if you guys had considered porting Ubuntu Touch to Project Treble? In theory it would enable a much wider range of devices with minimal effort
 @popescu_sorin, that's progress. :)
 @mariogrip Excuse me, when porting ubuntu touch. Can't shutdown/restart properly. Which aspect should be concerned?
 @kuailexs, We also dont know it. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. You have to hack a lot into your device files to make this work properly.
 Project Treble only changes effort level on Android
 for now at least
 if Halium guys focus treble, we'll get it in effect, but now there's no Oreo support to begin with, IIRC that was introduced in Oreo
 Are AppArmor patches documented in porting guide?
 Is it right to assume that basic functions are working in N5 in 16.04? i.e. Can I phone, SMS, and use the official browser? Does Telegram work? Actually, what would be really useful would be a list of apps that work, and those which don't.
 Yeah, there are only flags to be enabled, checked by a script, what if I don't have AppArmor in my kernel? Did anyone have to backport that?
 @kuailexs, This group is not the best place to ask. Are you still building Halium for the device or have you completed that stage?
 @Mark, Not sure. Telegram does not work though
 @K31j0, Not to a fully extent. The AA porting is so complex its not easy to describe. If you are lucky you can use an existing kernel port
 @Stereofont, Thanks for that.
 @Stereofont, base on ubp-5.1
 @Stereofont, It can  be used normally. But it cannot shutdown/retart properly.Must be forced to shut down
 @kuailexs, This is because the shutdown is device-specific and no 2 devices are shutting down in the samye way. The vendor makes this possible, and it needs to be done like in Android, otherwise it wont work. Also that there is "charge mode" where Android is started even when the phone is off if you connect a cable. Sometimes
[10:55] <ubptgbot> Ubuntu Touch just starts, as it does not understand it should be i ncharge mode only.
 Is this device interesting for Ubuntu touch too? … https://www.xda-developers.com/planet-computer-gemini-pda-lineageos-14-1/
 in regards to devices that aren't officially supported, the OS will still work right? but just with glitches possibly
 No, it will not work at all
 @unknown, it says on the page that radio doesn't work (yet). even if porting succeeds, the lack of radio will persist in UT likewise i think
 @YougoChats, But it also says that you can boot GNU/Linux
 Pretty sure someone is working on the Gemini...
 there are several ways of doing that. probably none of those are how Ubuntu Touch works
 ah okie
 but the integrated physical keyboard is very interesting indeed
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yes, @NotKit has it sort of working
 But it's Mediatek, so he's submitting lots of patches
 I'm not basing on Lineage, but on AOSP BSP actually.
 I read that sailfish os is supported
 What Linux distribution will Gemini run? … We are currently talking to a few companies representing different Linux flavours and we are considering a number of options but the decision has not been taken yet. We are also taking into accounts comments from the backers into consideration, including Sailfish & Ubuntu OS, which have bee
[13:38] <ubptgbot> n suggested several times. … https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device--2#/
 Ubuntu OS = UT or desktop?
 no idea what they mean there
 what was demostrated is desktop with GNOME Shell
 Probably Ubuntu proper
 GPD Pocket is a similar device that's x86 and can run any Linux
 because it's x86 :)
 yes
[13:45] <ubptgbot> Lexi was added by: Lexi
 Guys, if I use Libertian - is it possible to run official telegram app?
 No, it's not built for ARM
 you can probably run it inside libertine if you compile it for ARM
 Okay, thanks!
 you could probably package it as a click and run it without libertine too, since it's qt
 might not scale nicely or be usable, but should at least be able to forgo the need for X11, and get a little better system integration with keyboard and such
 @NotKit, We never forget Harmattan
 @dohbee, Its qt? Sure?
 @Flohack, the telegram desktop app? pretty sure, yes
 I think there's some components from Electron, too. Not sure how they fit together though
 No, telegram-desktop is completely Qt. It also runs on Plasma Mobile
 https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop
 it's a bit of a pain to build
 Debian has some patches to build it against the system libraries.
 I guess building the debian package for Xenial and repacking it into a click is the easiest way.
 yay night mode
 does camera app work for anyone on 16.04 builds?
 @dohbee, Both photo and video camera work in my E4.5
 @dohbee, Camera works but not video I think, at least in N5
 hmm. i am trying to figure out why Camera component is not working on 18.04 for me
 but i guess it's not strictly "qt 5.9 broke something" :-/
[17:59] <ubptgbot> Jean-Pierre MAILLARD was added by: Jean-Pierre MAILLARD
[18:02] <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> Hello Everyone, … I'm trying to install UBports on my new BQ M10 FHD (Android version) but after a few seconds, I get a message about format of the systme and recovery partitions: … "FAILED (remote: format for partition 'system' is not allowed)" … Is there a way to have the partition enable for a new system? … Thank you
[18:02] <ubptgbot> !
 You need to install Ubuntu on your device from a factory image before you are able to use the installer
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices
 Is WINE hq available in UBports?
 You can probably install it in libertine, but you'd need Windows apps compiled for ARM
 Read: none of them
 wine isn't available for ARM in ubuntu repos
 so firstly you'd need to get wine compiled for ARM, and then you'd need Win RT apps
 Wine on ARM is a hell to get working
 just use qemu-user
 @dohbee, 18.04 builds are already available?
[18:13] <ubptgbot> ignorare was added by: ignorare
 No, he's hacking around on 18.04
 i'm porting an app to qqc2 on x86
 It's been a long while since I've went around Ubuntu Touch
 Hi guys! Did anybody of you successfully install UBports on a Nexus 5 with 32 GB? Or does UBports only work on the 16 GB-version?
 Works fine on the 32GB version
 @ignorare, Should work on any Hammerhead
 I want to try to go around full time with Ubports again
 Great! Thanks a lot! 👍
 @dohbee, does 16.04 have qqc2 support yet
 it works fine if one successfully replaced the flash with 64GB chip too
 @dohbee, Oh, wow! 😉
 Is that a big work?
 Very
 you'll need a reballing station
 Haha, okay. I am out... 😄
 @samzn, i'm talking about stock ubuntu, not ubuntu on phones
 Thank you very much guys! 👍👍😉
 @dohbee, ah
 but ubports 16.04 devel is using qt 5.9 as well (which is what is in 18.04 stock), so i was wondering if the same issues might be showing up there
 How would you launch a Libertine program from the UT Terminal app?
 with ubuntu-app-launch
 `ubuntu-app-launch container_firefox_0.0` for example
 `ubuntu-app-launch-appids | grep container` to see what apps are available in `container`
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EqyfgBrn.png
 Welcome back old friend
 Meh, apparently devel Xenial still can't open programs by that method.
 It should but what actually happens
 ubuntu-app-launch uses the same stuff as Unity8 does to launch apps... so if it was completely broken, no apps would launch
 probably same issue that n5 had?
 I see the splash screen of the program, but then nothing and a revert back to teh terminal.
 sounds like same issue as on n5
 check the log for the app in `~/.cache/upstart/` to see what went wrong
 Or more accurately just the program's icon rather than a startup splash screen.
 yes, the u8 splash screen you get for all starting apps
 "proot info: pid 10749: terminated with signal 11"
 oh that's no fun
 And ditto with pid 11107
 yeah that means it crashed
 What does it mean?
 so not the same as on n5
 so something segfaulted
 is there something in `/var/crash/` that looks relevant?
 everything segfaults
 No just stuff regarding system settings there AFAICS.
 What are you trying to run?
 Whatever really, started with Firefox and Libre Office Writer.
 does anbox work on 16.04?
 on devices where it is currently enabled, yes
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
 so not on nexus 5
 The Pro 5 and M10's
 @dohbee, that's really great to hear
 @samzn, Some news available about Anbox at all? 👍😉
 @ignorare, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> @UniversalSuperBox, Thank you very much Dalton Durst for this information! (It still does not work yet but I will have another try tomorrow. Will keep you posted.)
 @Jean-Pierre MAILLARD, If you make a username in Telegram you can be pinged and be invited to groups, such as the install group…
[19:44] <ubptgbot> <Jean-Pierre MAILLARD> @Stereofont, Thank you for the tip Lionelb!
 @Jean-Pierre MAILLARD, You can go into Settings to do that
 Is Ubuntu Touch available for Samsung s6?
 @Stereofont, Done! Thanks again Lionelb!
 @Zack, Nope. See http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 Thank you!
 👍
 @advocatux, There was a video recently of ubuntu touch on the Samsung s something or other
 7
 @PhoenixLandPirate, S7
 Okay
 I saw the video, really exciting updates
 ZeroPointEnergy went from beginner in November https://forums.ubports.com/topic/755/android-mobile-device-hell-porting-halium-to-galaxy-s7 to video star in February 👍
[20:25] <ubptgbot> Jishnurajm was added by: Jishnurajm
 Hello Jishnu. If you would like to read more about UBports, check the link … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Also … https://t.me/UBports_India
 @cls006, consider anbox to the 'the wine of ubuntu touch' ;)
 anbox isn't a reimplementation of android though
 i am so out to lunch on this cloud that i don't even have anything further to say which is... out of my character! good day for anyone who wants to take shots at me though! ;)
 @cls006, UBports Port existed for a very short time on Sunday.
[21:24] <ubptgbot> Vasilis Ziogou was added by: Vasilis Ziogou
[21:24] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> hi
[21:25] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> i want to install ubuntu touch in turbo-x Hive 3g (Greek model). it runs android 4.4.2 but i cant get into bootloader
[21:25] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> can you help me?
 it is not a supported device
 @Vasilis Ziogou, The bootloader is the smallest of the problems
 @Vasilis Ziogou, To learn about UBports, check this … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/
 That is the list of supported devices. More are on the way but sadly not yours
[21:31] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> so there is no other way that it can work on my device?
 It is a Mali processor. I don't think anyone has ported a Mali device. BQ M10 us the only properly supported tablet, although you can do something with a 2013 Nexus 7
[21:33] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> 👍
[21:33] <ubptgbot> <Vasilis Ziogou> thnx
 @Vasilis Ziogou, First, it would need a Halium port. A difficult and frustrating process. Usually Qualcomm processors ate preferred because they are not so closed
 At the moment we don't have a Greek language group but we would like to
 @Stereofont, which SoC exactly?
 Mali-450 MP; ARM; OpenGL ES-CM 1.1; OpenGL ES 2.0
 MediaTek MT8392, ok
 thankfully some Greek letters look similar to cyrillics
 @NotKit, Maybe because Cyrrilos was greek
 @NotKit, [Edit] Maybe because Cyrrilos was Greek
 😹😹
 @NikosChat, yeah
 @Vasilis Ziogou, I checked a bit, it doesn't have kernel source code provided by manufacturer. Unfortunately, you're generally out of luck with lesser known "regional" devices.
 more like some cyrillic letters look similar to Greek ;)
 @Vasilis Ziogou, Incidentally, if you make a username in Telegram, it assists  because you can be pinged and it is possible to add you to groups
 https://www.plaisio.gr/tablet/tablets/tablets-all/Turbo-X-Hive-V-Octacore-9-7-3G-Milamu-DI-9733.htm - it's just for example, "ΤΕΧΝΙΚΑ ΧΑΡΑΚΤΗΡΙΣΤΙΚΑ" reads almost fine for Russian speaker ("ТЕХНИКА ХАРАКТЕРИСТИКА", not correct in Russian, but understandable)
 Technical characteristic
 Panynmaiu
 Russian or English is obviously based on Greek words
 probably even more Greek words borrowed than in English
 @NikosChat, If a Greek group is desired, a conversation could start in the Lab
 @Vasilis Ziogou, [Edit] First, it would need a Halium port. A difficult and frustrating process. Usually Qualcomm processors are preferred because they are not so closed
 I am Greek but I don't know if there are other Greeks that are interested in a Greek language group
 @Stereofont, Which Lab?
 @NikosChat, Generally, when a group is started, others appear
 @Stereofont, OK let's create it then
 @NikosChat, I tried to add you but your privacy settings do not allow
 @Stereofont, Can you try again
 @Stereofont, [Edit] Can you try again?
 @NikosChat, 😃
 Which kernel version is in UT 16.04?
[22:27] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> what browser does ut use
 @Donieck, Whichever you bese on
 depends on the device
 ranging from 3.4 to 4.4
 no rule
 @K31j0, Is have UT 16.04? Can you write uname -r in terminal and hand this up to me?
 What device do you have?
 nexus 5 with UT 15.04
 That'll have the same kernel
 hence you can't upgrade kernels on android devices
 If you bump up the release to the extent it changes API/ABI, device becomes unbootable
 and you can't do anything about this
 because we need blobs man
 else nothing works
 Iiiif you want to reverse engineer everything and write FOSS drivers for that that'd go into mainline, I got no problem with that
 but ain't nobody got time for that
 @Mark Mullins, Native is webbrowser-app which is based on chromium content api