[00:00] <Bashing-om> !info anbox bionic
[00:01] <Boyette> any fix for that or workaround?
[00:01] <Boyette> !info anbox-installer
[00:01] <Bashing-om> !details Boyette ^^
[00:01] <Boyette> i like to run android apps
[00:01] <Boyette> in bionic
[00:01] <Bashing-om> !details | Boyette ^^
[00:03] <Boyette> talking to a bot
[00:33] <katnip> looks like updates coming in now
[00:41] <Boyette> updates?
[01:01] <FurretUber> Hi, I have noticed something strange on installations or updates of packages. For example, a update of 160 package may have one of 40 kB from the same mirror of the 159 others that failed. Or a install of 1200 packages fail because of a package with 160 kB from the same repository. I'm not sure I'm clear, but one package may fail and make updates fail, but I don't understand why that specific package failed
[01:02] <FurretUber> When I say fail, I mean it failed on download
[01:02] <tsimonq2> FurretUber: Can you please pastebin your sources.list?"
[01:03] <tsimonq2> s/"//
[01:04] <FurretUber> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xvG6WgVxYn/
[01:05] <tsimonq2> FurretUber: I would try running sed -i "s/br.archive/archive/" /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <tsimonq2> Then give it a retry.
[01:05] <tsimonq2> If it works, it's a bad mirror.
[01:05] <tsimonq2> If it doesn't, then it's the packages.
[01:12] <FurretUber> This is the error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sxppMybDKj/
[01:13] <FurretUber> If I try a second time, then the download finishes and the update happen. I will try with the different mirror
[01:14] <tsimonq2> FurretUber: Could you please translate that to English for me?
[01:14] <tsimonq2> I only speak English (proficiently). ;)
[01:14] <TJ-> It means Connection Timed Out
[01:15] <tsimonq2> Ah, that'd make sense.
[01:15] <tsimonq2> FurretUber: Can you ping the mirror?
[01:15] <tsimonq2> 'cause if anything, that might be it.
[01:16] <FurretUber> I can ping to it. But is shown yukinko.canonical.com (91.189.88.162): icmp_seq=24 ttl=51 time=287 ms
[01:16] <tsimonq2> Hum.
[01:16] <tsimonq2> FurretUber: I'd ask in #ubuntu-mirrors.
[01:54] <auctus> hmm, night mode doesnt turn off when it ought to
[01:55] <auctus> i.e. i put my laptop to sleep at midnight, then i wake it up the next day around lunch and it is still orange, i have to go manually switch off night mode
[01:55] <TJ-> It wants some more zzzzs :)
[03:04] <BionicMac> alkisg: My sound issue is solved. Hell to the yes. Several things had to be one. *edit  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  -> options snd-hda-intel model=imac27'  ... plus running hda_analyzer to get specific information about the sound card then putting that info in a python script to run at boot time. ... ouch. !@!  I need a beer. 
[03:07] <BionicMac> s/be one/be done/
[03:10]  * BionicMac rolls his eyes ... Finally. No mo intermittent audio. I really need to get this documented. Each grooling step at a time to put on a blog so others can benefit.
[03:10] <tsimonq2> BionicMac: Once you publish that blog post, file a bug, too. :)
[03:10]  * tsimonq2 slides BionicMac a beer.
[03:12] <BionicMac> Well, is it really a Ubuntu bug though? I mean it was Alsa settings plus kernel module options.. .and probing the audio chip for info to run in a boot time script... 
[03:12]  * BionicMac takes a cold drink...
[03:13] <TJ-> BionicMac: the info could be incorporated into the kernel via  quirk that matches the DMI of the system
[03:13] <BionicMac> The tool I used to probe the audio card came from the Alsa project ... I would need to make that into a uBuntu package too to get all this done properly.
[03:14] <BionicMac> At the very least I could add information on the Ubuntu Wiki as a step by step guide.
[03:15] <tsimonq2> BionicMac: Ubuntu ships config files by default. :P
[03:16] <tsimonq2> If anything though, try filing upstream too.
[03:16] <BionicMac> TJ-: True.
[03:16] <tsimonq2> But also write that guide. :D
[03:16] <BionicMac> Will do. 
[03:16]  * tsimonq2 wanders off to bed. o/
[03:16] <BionicMac> Another beer please...
[03:16] <BionicMac> tsimonq2: Have a good one. =)
[03:16] <TJ-> same here, it's 4:16
[03:17] <tsimonq2> BionicMac: You too. :)
[03:17] <tsimonq2> 10:17 PM here, heh
[03:18] <BionicMac> Later TJ-
[03:18] <BionicMac> 22:18 for moi
[03:45] <Se7enLC> Anyone else using the kubuntu beta? I can't get sddm to work no matter what I try. Switched to gdm for now, wondering if it's just me
[04:09] <valorie> I've been using the beta 1, Se7enLC, but no SDDM troubles
[04:09] <valorie> going to put beta2 on it tomorrow
[04:10] <flocculant> valorie: don't you update it?
[04:13] <valorie> if there is an update step
[04:14] <valorie> yes, I keep it updated
[04:14] <valorie> but I'm using it for testing, so the present install gets blown away
[04:14] <flocculant> oh right so you keep installing it from the beta 1 iso?
[04:15] <valorie> ? no, I've been doing regular updates
[04:15] <valorie> tomorrow when the beta 2 comes out I'll be using it for testing
[04:15] <valorie> I like bare metal testing more than vms
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> same here not a fan of vm
[04:16] <flocculant> yea - I'll test it too of course - but I'll use whatever is the most up to date version
[04:16] <valorie> right, the beta2 should drop tomorrow
[04:16] <valorie> I was hoping tonight but I guess not
[04:16]  * flocculant wishes they'd stop publishing milestones 
[04:17] <flocculant> valorie: I'd guess it will be during 'my day'
[04:17] <flocculant> 5am here
[04:17] <valorie> just after 9pm here
[04:17] <flocculant> I guessed :D
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> alot of work for you guys flocculant 
[04:18] <flocculant> well all I really do is try to get people to test the damn thing for us ;)
[04:18] <flocculant> poisoned chalice ...
[04:18] <valorie> well of course
[04:19] <valorie> I work on that all cycle, every cycle
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> i have the feeling not much users helped bugging this time
[04:19] <flocculant> valorie: me too :)
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> but then ill be wrong, when i look at the big list of bionic bugs
[04:19] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: we did a blog post recently - that brought a few people out of the woodwork 
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> i also requested !insights for main, to help
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> new news, more people etc
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !insights
[04:20] <flocculant> good luck with that - just a Canonical mouthpiece as far as I can tell
[04:20] <flocculant> loads of totally pointless posts
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> i dont like the IOT threads, but some desktop news is cool though
[04:21] <flocculant> I don't mind will cookes desktop mail 
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> i also always reccomend users to file bugs aswell
[04:22] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: we said this " but if the community can’t find the time to contribute to the release, we can’t guarantee we can have one"
[04:22] <flocculant> if people read to the end lol
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> flocculant valorie are you guys feeling help from the gnome guys side yet?
[04:22] <valorie> that's the main reason we're giving up on i386
[04:23] <valorie> no testers on actual boxes
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[04:23] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: sometimes we ask if something affects us (usually people in the -desktop channel)
[04:23] <valorie> lotuspsychje: at the end everyone pitches in
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> not very handy this
[04:23] <flocculant> valorie: luckily we have people in our team still using i386
[04:23] <flocculant> but I suspect 20.04 will be 64bit
[04:24] <Bashing-om> flocculant: Then there is me cases .. I booted bionic .. Only issue I had was already reported :)
[04:24] <valorie> I had people promise to test but when the time came, it was all on modern machines or vms
[04:24] <flocculant> Bashing-om: hi and :)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: im curious wich was it?
[04:24] <flocculant> valorie: yea
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> i still like ubuntu on old hardware, yes even on 2018
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> lubuntu/xubuntu
[04:24] <valorie> well, so am I 
[04:25] <valorie> but I can't release untested stuff
[04:25] <Bashing-om> flocculant: Old hardware, and am pleased will still be around in 2023 :)
[04:25] <flocculant> valorie: we should have a flavour qa team channel - where we can pat each other on the back and say 'there there, it'll be ok in the end'
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> valorie: yeah i surely understand that
[04:25] <valorie> flocculant: lol
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: good idea
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: as in !flavors blabla dev channel #ubuntu-flavors
[04:26] <flocculant> Bashing-om: xubuntu will support to 2021 - then the xubuntu stuff loses support, but of course the mainbuntu stuff will be 2023
[04:27] <valorie> we work pretty closely with the lubuntu folks
[04:27] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: well I wasn't serious - but I guess it has it's merits, there being nowhere I know of for flavour teams to get together
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> flocculant valorie also at final release alot of users will file new bugs too, the big masses till next .1
[04:27] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: installed ubuntu 18.04 //played with Xorg and then wayland . found wayland the smoother and faster .
[04:27] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: and they drive me insane
[04:27] <valorie> oh gosh, I already filed all the bugs!
[04:27] <flocculant> :)
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> we gonna be needing all the volunteers in main for sure :p
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: interesting
[04:29] <Bashing-om> flocculant: And yeah ,. next up is a core install with xfce as the DE .
[04:30] <flocculant> Bashing-om: you know we do a semi-official one
[04:30] <flocculant> ?
[04:30] <flocculant> it's officially Xubuntu Team but not on cdimage.ubuntu.blah
[04:31] <Bashing-om> flocculant: " https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ " ??
[04:31] <flocculant> yea that's the kiddy
[04:31] <valorie> lubuntu next is doing something like that as well
[04:32] <flocculant> valorie: ack but that's newlubuntu isn't it? qt instead?
[04:32] <flocculant> our's is xubuntu shaved till it bleeds :p
[04:32] <valorie> yup
[04:32] <valorie> ah, we're going to offer a kub minimal install
[04:33] <valorie> I guess that's the trend
[04:33] <valorie> not as a separate ISO though
[04:33] <valorie> just an alternate during install
[04:33] <flocculant> yea - we've been trying to get ours as a proper thing for a lot longer than that
[04:34] <flocculant> in fact when we called it Core it was before Canonical's - when we tried to get the mp sorted - the complaints were mostly call it something else
[04:34] <flocculant> since then we kind of gave up
[04:35] <valorie> what was the difficulty?
[04:37] <flocculant> can't remember now the detail - but it mostly felt like they didn't want us to do it 
[04:38] <valorie> the release team is busy beyond belief
[04:38] <valorie> so we try to not make life more difficult for them
[04:39] <flocculant> valorie: that's completely beside the point - being patient for cycles isn't making life difficult
[04:40] <valorie> what I meant was, we try to do the work ourselves so we're not asking them to do it
[04:41] <flocculant> :) well yea ofc
[04:44] <valorie> flocculant: so what did you have to wait for?
[04:45] <flocculant> them to reply in the end - we gave up
[04:46] <valorie> hmmm
[04:47] <flocculant> so - the alarm has now gone off - best see about starting the real life day off ... cya all later
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[06:05] <pranav> I am about to install nvidia drivers. i don't want to curropt my productive freelancing system. can i install two ubuntu 18.04 parallely ?
[06:06] <pranav> i have already curropted 16.04,17.04 and 17.10 in past and finally 18.04 showed some good signs
[06:37] <valorie> pranav: yes, you can just install them next to one another, in two partitions
[06:38] <pranav> valorie: ok, if i install nvidia drivers in one OS. can it affect the whole system boot?
[06:38] <pranav> i don't want to lose my productive system 
[06:45] <alkisg> valorie: no, it won't affect the other installation
[06:46] <pranav> alkisg: thanks
[06:46] <pranav> ubuntu 18.04 is the best so far
[06:46] <pranav> its so responsive and simplified
[06:47] <pranav> i have been using ubuntu since 8.04
[06:54] <alkisg> Whoops sorry I said valorie instead of pranav :)
[06:54] <alkisg> I've been using Ubuntu daily since 7.10 I believe
[07:20] <mvvvv> Hi ! I will upgrade ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04 as soon as possible. Will I have a simple way to reduce my packages list to the ubuntu minimal ones ?
[08:03] <ducasse> mvvvv: not really, afaik
[08:09] <mvvvv> Thanks ducasse I guess this is not a meta package like ubuntu-desktop ...
[08:10] <bugzbunny> I have a question of my own
[08:11] <bugzbunny> I like fresh install, that's why I put /home on seperate partition
[08:11] <bugzbunny> Realisticly speaking, how well is the upgrade process?
[08:12] <alkisg> Personally I mostly reinstall and just have one big apt-get install all-my-apps command for later on
[08:12] <bugzbunny> If version of packages mean, a significant difference between 17.10?
[08:13] <bugzbunny> Ahh
[08:13] <bugzbunny> alkisg: I like to test it
[08:13] <alkisg> Installations from live CDs have the packages marked as manually installed
[08:13] <alkisg> So it's hard to autoremove them if needed
[08:14] <bugzbunny> I am confused
[08:14] <alkisg> Maybe they were trying to have less broken systems when people are removing metapackages like ubuntu-desktop, or their dependencies, but I think it does more harm than good
[08:15] <bugzbunny> I am still confused, but before you speak
[08:16] <bugzbunny> The way I installed Ubuntu repartitioning my second disk and make it bootable, and I installed Ubuntu from there
[08:16] <bugzbunny> I will get a proper USB drive
[08:16] <bugzbunny> I do the same between Windows 10 version, and Ubuntu
[08:16] <bugzbunny> I just reinstall, that avoids problems
[08:17] <bugzbunny> I'd like to test dist upgrade
[08:17] <alkisg> In windows, it's much harder to preserve /home along with the user settings
[08:17] <alkisg> So reinstallation + adjustments may need a full week
[08:17] <bugzbunny> alkisg: In windows, it makes a backup
[08:17] <bugzbunny> alkisg: It doesn't delete it
[08:18] <bugzbunny> alkisg: Windows move it to C:\Windows.old
[08:18] <alkisg> I didn't say about deletions
[08:18] <bugzbunny> Just saying, because people have strong opinions
[08:19] <bugzbunny> I am on Ubuntu right now, I love Cgroup
[08:19] <alkisg> If you install windows from scratch, and you want it to use your existing D:\Users\Username directory, it can't; it creates a new user account with new registry settings etc
[08:19] <alkisg> So you have to reconfigure everything  from scratch
[08:19] <bugzbunny> alkisg: I actually never tested that
[08:19] <bugzbunny> alkisg: I just copy over stuff
[08:19] <alkisg> You can't copy the registry settings
[08:20] <alkisg> And, permissions are all messed up
[08:20] <bugzbunny> alkisg: Don't matter to me
[08:20] <bugzbunny> I don't mind losing those settings
[08:20] <alkisg> While reinstalling linux and keeping /home is autoamtic
[08:20] <alkisg> If you don't ever configure anything in your user account, like email settings or whatever, then sure
[08:20] <alkisg> It's like having a kiosk instead of a pc then
[08:21] <bugzbunny> For the most part
[08:21] <bugzbunny> The software I use, just works when I copy over
[08:21] <bugzbunny> So, the fear, just /home
[08:21] <bugzbunny> Okay
[08:22] <bugzbunny> But, different libaries cause problems
[08:22] <bugzbunny> That's why, I should test it
[08:23] <bugzbunny> I would hate, everything I've done, it will fail, but I will test it, once it's release... I will do the proper.. I won't lose data but piss me off
[15:23] <aarobc> Hello. So, on ubuntu 16.04 phpunit tests would run in about 20 seconds if I mounted with `nobarrier`. Updated to 18.04, and even with `nobarrier` tests still take around 4 minutes. Very obviously a disk i/o thing, because If I create a ram disk and run tests from there, they take only like 9 seconds.
[15:23] <aarobc> tried running from a xfs partition, they took around 3.5 mins. There's something screwed up with disk io on ubuntu :(
[15:24] <aarobc> Any ideas how to restore the performance?
[15:24] <aarobc> Are there known issues on 18.04?
[15:26] <Aranor> Hi
[15:27] <nacc_> aarobc: you could try installing the 16.04 kernel?
[15:27] <nacc_> aarobc: which kernel were you on 16.04?
[15:28] <aarobc> nacc_: whatever was default. I'd run upgrades weekly to try to stay current
[15:28] <nacc_> aarobc: hwe or not?
[15:28] <aarobc> nacc_: hwe?
[15:28] <nacc_> aarobc: without knowing precisely, it'
[15:29] <nacc_> !hwe | Aranor 
[15:29] <nacc_> bah
[15:29] <nacc_> aarobc: --^
[15:29] <nacc_> Aranor: sorry
[15:29] <nacc_> aarobc: without knowing precisely what you were running, the comparison is hard
[15:29] <aarobc> Indeed
[15:30] <Aranor> Preciesly like precise pangolin ? :D
[15:30] <Aranor> I have one question. How to get Unity 7 on 18.04 ?
[15:32] <nacc_> Aranor: apt install unity ?
[15:33] <Aranor> nacc : Unity 7 works and it is in official repository ?
[15:33] <nacc_> Aranor: it's in universe
[15:33] <nacc_> i have no idea if it works
[15:34] <nacc_> but it shouldn't be horribly broken
[15:35] <Aranor> I know but I am in ass. Upgrade day is closer and I still love Unity 7. Gnome 3 is one step back
[15:36] <Aranor> I know that Unity 8 is huge step back (looks, functions, default behaviour)
[16:34] <BenLubar> I have been trying to run Bionic in a VM a few times, and every time, after a few hours, the VM stops responding and usually gives a bunch of IO error messages like this: https://what.thedailywtf.com/assets/uploads/files/1522682618848-bb7fb25a-fb78-4b59-a8c9-47f22d7c5016-image.png
[16:34] <BenLubar> chkdisk on the host shows no problems
[16:35] <BenLubar> I have a physical machine with a Core 2 Duo that's running Bionic with none of these issues
[17:17] <ChmEarl> BenLubar, check `modinfo tmem` for the param `self_balooon` set it to zero on the kernel cmdline
[17:17] <ChmEarl> maybe self_balooning
[17:18] <ChmEarl> ^^ tmem.selfballooning=0 
[17:21] <BenLubar> https://imgur.com/cFN8kvo
[17:24] <ChmEarl> BenLubar, that param is more important for a Bionic hypervisor. Not sure how it impacts a bionic VM
[17:25] <ChmEarl> anyone ever seen an XSLT for a preseed file? I would like color hilites to separate all the comments
[17:27] <ChmEarl> I can use syntax highlight for Sh (shell) with most editors
[18:38] <Atlantes> I'm trying to get my right click to work (touchpad, Dell XPS 9560, ubuntu 18.04) but it doesn't seem to recognize the button. Already tried installing the synaptics driver and configured it (70-synaptics.conf, adding Option "ClickPad" "1"    Option "SoftButtonAreas" "60% 0 82% 0 40% 60% 82% 0")). Someone has a clue what I can do to get the right click to work?
[18:42] <tomreyn> i'm not sure wheere i read it but the synaptics driver is no longer supposed to be used but libinput instead
[18:45] <Atlantes> tomreyn: I'm currently using the libinput driver. it is not working on both
[18:58] <tomreyn> Atlantes: okay, sorry i can't help more with this right now.
[18:59] <Atlantes> it's weird because sometimes the context menu opens, not sure how
[19:34] <BionicMac> Kubuntu Beta 2  18.04 rc iso just dropped. =)
[19:37] <BionicMac> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds/169585/downloads
[19:37] <BionicMac> Have fun folks. I have to run some errands while zsync is working.
[20:27] <katnip> if you have been keeping up with the updates all along this time, i read that you will have the final when released, so Beta 2 is not necessary if you've been updating
[20:29] <nacc_> katnip: right, it's for folks helping with testing
[21:00] <akem> Hi, is the gnome-shell memory leak bug fixed in 18.04?
[21:00] <bart_> akem didn't notice any mem problems yet... and leave my pc running for whole day.... but problem is also there in 17.10 I think.
[21:01] <akem> bart_, Yes i got the problem here on 17.10, about 800 Mb...then only 150 or something after restart.
[21:01] <akem> But since 18.04 is LTS...
[21:01] <nacc_> i've left my computer on for days at a time without issue
[21:02] <nacc_> akem: i don't believe it's fixed upstream
[21:02] <bart_> I've read there are working on a fix, however whether it will be in time for the 18.04 lts is not sure yet...
[21:02] <nacc_> so not sure it's reasonable to think it's already fixed in ubunut, was my point
[21:02] <nacc_> *ubuntu
[21:02] <akem> I see, ok, thanks for the info.
[21:03] <bart_> but it's running smooth for me, even on a system with less ram....
[21:03] <bart_> boot time is a little longer on a classic hdd compared to the 16.04 release...
[21:04] <bart_> does someone know whether the daily build repo's will become the final one... or should i do a reinstall ?
[21:06] <nacc_> bart_: what do you mean?
[21:06] <nacc_> bart_: there is only one set of ubuntu repositories
[21:06] <bart_> ok, so it stays at the bionic repos....
[21:06] <nacc_> bart_: ... well bionic is the release
[21:07] <nacc_> bart_: daily, alpha, beta, are just points in time
[21:08] <bart_> ok, thx for the feedback... thought so but was not sure.... I am really happy with the current setup....
[21:36] <popey> Hello! I'm looking for someone with an nvidia card and nvidia binary driver on Ubuntu 18.04 up to date to test something?
[21:44] <Bashing-om> popey: Are you aware of the nvidia testing: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2385770&page=5 ?
[21:44] <popey> heya!
[23:18] <IntelCore> Beaver out now?
[23:19] <nacc> IntelCore: no.
[23:19] <nacc> IntelCore: read /topic
[23:24] <IntelCore> The final stable release will be available on April 26th, 2018
[23:24] <IntelCore>  3 weeks?
[23:26] <IntelCore> thanks