[00:01] clincks: i.e. "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" [00:01] I did that already :-( [00:02] whats the ip address? [00:03] hi [00:03] im trying to install anbox [00:03] anyone who can help with that [00:06] 192.168.178.201 [00:07] Boyette, says on the site to install via snaps [00:08] yes [00:08] i know [00:09] but [00:09] https://pastebin.com/UuLC3MSV [00:10] I did exactly same than: http://mixeduperic.com/ubuntu/how-to-set-a-static-ip-address-on-a-ubuntu-server.html [00:11] Ok, I give up for today... Thanks for help [00:15] this is bull crap. How long is "a start job is running for dev-mapper-cryptswap1.device" supposed to take [00:16] Boyette, you're going to have to get in touch with a developer over there, but they are warning that it is still Alpha. [00:17] hm, in Ubuntu 17.10 i changed the dock icon size, but then all my desktop icons(not dock) disappeared :/ any idea to get them back? [00:19] its ok [00:19] if its alpha [00:22] its been 30 min so far... it didn't take 30min to encrypt my entire HDD with bitlocker [00:23] Hi - In my GUI, I seem to recall there being someway I can have up to 4 different 'desktop' screens by using some hot keys to switch between them... does what I'm trying to say sound familiar to anyone and, if so, how? [00:25] Geo: they are called workspaces. [00:26] Geo, I don't know the keyboard shortcut but you can also switch workspaces using the mouse wheel on the dot matrix of the dock - bottom left. [00:26] on Ubuntu 17.10 at least... [00:27] here we go, found how to enable them in 'Appearance' [00:27] thats what I was after. Thanks guys [00:36] alright, i've been trying to work through this suspend/resume issue for a while, and i think i have it narrowed down a bit [00:36] well, for myself anyways [00:36] if i chvt 1 before suspending, i can resume [00:36] and i can type, and the computer operates mostly normally [00:36] but once i chvt 7, it's frozen [00:36] dead frozen [00:37] only resuming on battery, though [00:37] resume on AC is fine [00:39] redlegion: sounds like an ACPI issue; have you tried a custom acpi_osi= ? [00:39] yeah, i've tried a few suggestions [00:39] acpi_osi=linux, acpi_osi='Windows 2013' [00:41] redlegion: best config to be sure the correct acpi_osi is being used, is "apci_osi=! acpi_osi=\"Windows 2013\" " (the ! tells the kernel not to offer any of it's built-in OSIs) [00:41] redlegion: I assume you found "Windows 2013" by searching the PC's ACPI DSDT ? [00:41] no, it was just one of about six suggestions for this issue i've tried [00:42] though the i8042 fix was gold [00:42] redlegion: see my article on the workaround http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [00:43] redlegion: if it still happens after the correct variation is set, we can dig into the GUI power-manager === kevr is now known as `0000000000 === `0000000000 is now known as `100101011100101 === `100101011100101 is now known as kevr === Budgii_ is now known as Budgii === jc_ is now known as jcjc [00:47] if i did a `mv a/* b/*` did i completely just erase all of the files in the "a" folder? [00:47] TJ-: giving it a go, i'll let you know what happens. [00:53] TJ-: ohdeargod [00:53] you are my savior [00:54] a quit `cat /proc/cmdline` to make sure everything was in order, and lo and behold i have successful resume after suspend on BAT [00:54] i do appreciate the help [00:54] hi: is there any ubuntu iso where i can boot with a serial console (console=ttyS0) ? [00:56] redlegion: It's amazing how many times that solves these kind of power issues [00:56] i don't doubt it [00:58] hello. I am literally retarded. That's both why I want a private vpn and also why I can't figure the most basic shit out [00:58] wiper, no cursing here [00:58] sorry [00:59] wiper, there are a ton of step by step howtos to get openvpn running pretty quickly [00:59] yes, but as a retard, I cannot determine which guide is most retard-friendly [01:01] wiper, please stay topical, no need to use that as a pejorative [01:01] ? [01:02] what? [01:02] The R word...no need for that :) [01:02] what's a pejorative? [01:02] wiper, it's using that word here, and using it as a bad name [01:03] what word? [01:03] pejirative? [01:03] wiper, the word 'retard' [01:03] im not retarded wth [01:04] :| [01:05] Does anyone know where I can get a one click app or perhaps a docker for automatic configuration of open VPN? [01:06] wiper: Network Manager can import an openvpn config file (generally distributed as .ovpn) [01:08] Does anyone know where I can get a one click app or perhaps a docker for automatic configuration of open VPN? [01:08] wiper: this is what i used to set up my own openvpn daemon, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-16-04 [01:08] your miles may vary [01:08] it's not docker, but it's still pretty easy [01:09] ty [01:09] sorry for accidental spam [01:09] My option is 4 clicks I think ... nm-applet > Edit Connections... > Add > VPN=Import a saved VPN configuration... [01:13] oi [01:13] alguem ai [01:14] oh also, nobody knows who did Therac25 [01:14] and ubuntu is us intelligence [01:14] but they also have back doors in circuit design [01:15] wiper, thats way offtopic here, please stop [01:16] I'm sorry [01:17] bazhang can you help me [01:17] get unbanned from ##chat? I think there has been a big misunderstanding [01:17] Apparently because my account is new people think I'm someone else [01:17] thats also never topical here wiper [01:18] bazhang, does anybody on IRC like you? [01:19] can we just ban this guy already? [01:19] * TJ- puts hand up === Thedarkb-X40 is now known as Thedarkb-AFK [01:30] 1) All 5 programs are implemented as a callback function [01:30] 2) Each of the 5 programs is implemented as a callback function [01:30] is 1) necessarily not following the English grammar? [01:31] oops, wrong channel === lynn_ is now known as gryphon === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:01] Does anyone know how to handle kvm-spice app armor bug while using Virt-Manager/Libvirt [02:02] https://paste.gnome.org/pfpu4tnrz [02:04] seth: does "/etc/apparmor.d/libvirt/" exist? [02:05] No [02:05] It's an empty file. [02:05] seth: it is a directory, so are you saying it does exist but there are no files in it? [02:06] It exists. [02:06] There's 4 files. [02:09] seth: I think the problem is apparmor hasn't been told about kvm-spice binary, I grepped /etc/apparmor.d/ and 'kvm' is there but not 'kvm-spice' so I think it needs manually adding === Guest14678 is now known as Se7enLC [02:12] seth: I *think* this will fix it: sudo sed -r '/\/usr\/bin\/kvm rmix/ i \ \ /usr/bin/kvm-spice rmix,' /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu [02:13] seth: errr, no, that will only print the change, not make it! [02:13] seth: here you go sudo sed -i -r '/\/usr\/bin\/kvm rmix/ i \ \ /usr/bin/kvm-spice rmix,' /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/libvirt-qemu [02:18] Not working. [02:22] It works when I create a new VM. [02:22] my old VM is bugged. [02:22] Do I need to simply delete the old files? [02:23] https://youtu.be/DbCEf5reGD4?t=2m9s === zer0 is now known as Guest30088 === seth_ is now known as seth [02:38] hello, after updated ubuntu to the last version, i see escaped characters on apt output [02:38] El programa \xabnodejs\xbb no est\xe1 instalado. Puede instalarlo escribiendo: sudo apt install nodejs [02:38] what is going on? [02:43] How does ubuntu package upstream repositories? [02:44] are there rules like - "If there is a pypi repo let's not package it ourselves"? [02:44] !packaging | widp [02:44] widp: The packaging guide is at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring === seth_ is now known as seth [02:48] yuta: Looks like the terminal emulator is not interpreting the escape characters, at a glance, looks like apt is outputing color decorations [02:49] bugbunny: sorry, not apt. just running any command on terminal [02:49] $ ioj No se ha encontrado la orden \xabioj\xbb, quiz\xe1s quiso decir: La orden \xabiog\xbb del paquete \xabiog\xbb (universe) La orden \xabiok\xbb del paquete \xabiok\xbb (universe) La orden \xabij\xbb del paquete \xabderby-tools\xbb (universe) ioj: no se encontr\xf3 la orden [02:49] yuta: is it a UTF-8 issue? [02:50] TJ-: i dont know, that why i ask xD [02:50] yuta: what does 'locale' report? [02:50] LANG=C LANGUAGE=es_AR:es LC_CTYPE="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_COLLATE="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_PAPER="C" LC_NAME="C" LC_ADDRESS="C" LC_TELEPHONE="C" LC_MEASUREMENT="C" LC_IDENTIFICATION="C" LC_ALL= [02:51] hi, if im using the find command, and i want to sort by modified and delete the last 15 files, how i do it? [02:53] yuta: there's the problem, the locale is C language, not something lile es_AR.UTF-8 [02:55] yuta: try "sudo update-locale LANG=es_AR.UTF-8" [02:56] hello someone know a page good on nodejs y mysql socketsio [03:00] TJ-: hi [03:35] well, when the 18.04 version will be distributed?????? [03:41] how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ? [03:57] Can someone help me with an issue I'm having with apt-get? [03:58] kvuser7: We won't know until you ask ... [04:00] I need to update it, but it can't. I'll post the errors I'm getting [04:00] https://gist.github.com/AedificoLudus/26c67fd319d2a7ad4a3e2a0f75e23cdd [04:01] Did you use `sudo`, as in: `sudo apt-get ...` ? [04:02] sudo apt-get update [04:02] yeah [04:02] should I try again incase? [04:02] what does `ps -ef | grep apt` return? [04:03] aedus 18591 1681 0 14:03 pts/0 00:00:00 grep --color=auto --exclude-dir=.bzr --exclude-dir=CVS --exclude-dir=.git --exclude-dir=.hg --exclude-dir=.svn apt [04:04] how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ? [04:04] OK, so apt isn't already running. In `/var/lib/apt/lists` are there any lock files? [04:05] so... cd /var/lib/apt/lists? [04:05] kvuser7: Yes. Then `ls -al` [04:05] thats a lot of files [04:05] kvuser7: Try ls -al *lock* [04:06] -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jan 6 07:35 lock [04:06] only one now [04:08] Hmm. Not sure that's where the apt lock file is, and I'm not at a Ubuntu bax at the moment. You could tyr `sudo apt update` again [04:08] that seems to be working -_- [04:09] ok apt-get is in the list [04:10] I think it's working? [04:11] I love ubuntu for working, but I still know next to nothing about using it beyond the basics [04:11] chow [04:14] kvuser7: Check out the Debian reference then: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ === marcos is now known as Guest17194 === bungholio is now known as BionicMac === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:01] anyone know how to get menu's in i3? [05:02] agio: check #i3 chanel === kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar [05:02] lotuspsychje: ok, thanks [05:09] how do i uninstall the amazon stuff [05:12] i uninstalled it from the software center, wonder if theres any other amazon stuff lurking [05:26] in gnome, im trying to set the display scaling to 200% in "Displays", but it doesnt do anything. What can I do to fix this? 17.10. [05:33] Anyone have any good ideas for forcing pulseaudio to just output some sub-audible sine wave continuously, so that it keeps my damnable speaker system awake? [05:34] My problem doesn't seem to be the idle module or power idle settings on the sound card. Seems to be the sound system it's connected to wanting to idle on silence. [05:38] MarchHare: Why? It can turn itself back on when it recieves signal? [05:38] s/can/can't/ [05:39] Are those battery powered speakers? [05:39] bugbunny: No, it's a wall-powered sound bar. It takes about 5 seconds to come back on fully if I don't play anything for a minute or two [05:40] It turns back on just fine, it just takes 3~5 seconds to do it [05:40] And I don't like that. It's on analog line-out for a reason [05:40] If I hit play, I want to hear a damn sound as soon as that mouse clicks [05:41] MarchHare: anoise (ambient noise) has lots of audio files (white, grey, coffee) which play on loop; then use pavucontrol to lower volume to that ~inaudible but enough to keep it awake ?? (thought anyway; you could do the same for any app) [05:41] I was just thinking that [05:41] guiverc: Might be worth a shot. [05:41] I'd be fine with just a quiet sine. [05:42] Apparently sox outputting at -100db isn't enough [05:43] That was another issue I was thinking about [05:44] At what level of noise does the speaker turns of and is it smart enough to distiguish different sound [05:44] MarchHare: It's designed to be energy efficient? I wonder why it has such feature. [05:46] No clue. Seems to not be a problem when I listen directly to line-out with the phones. Seems to be the sound system. I sent a support request asking how I can turn that off. They'll probably be retards and assume I'm asking how to fix a sync delay. [05:47] Definitely not a pulseaudio issue. When I watch the loaded apps, as soon as I kill the music with stop, it clears from pulse. When I restart, it appears right back in there immediately. [05:48] MarchHare: script your own -- paplay lets you set volume, create your own sound file, even pavucontrol lets you control volume of playing file, but I'd use paplay --volume, and not have it consistent, just short & regularly enough to keep your sound system awake.. [05:49] guiverc: I'm trying to figure out how to daemonize it, so I can just run it on boot and leave it on. [05:50] guiverc: I still have to tune it so it can't be heard by anything but the sound system [05:51] guiverc: I wonder if the problem isn't that it's idle, but that it's also negotiating a bluetooth wakeup with the sub. [05:51] And simply doesn't output sound until that happens [05:51] I was going to ask how it was connected [05:51] You don't think it's probably at the Interface layer? [05:51] if it were me; I'd just use a background job started @ login (so I could kill, restart if necessary) - a heartbeat type signal every 30 secs maybe (or whatever keeps it alive) [05:52] bugbunny: Line out to the sound bar. Soundbar connects to the sub via bt [05:52] oO [05:52] K [05:52] not manually started at login; script run by login script .bash.. [05:52] bugbunny: Seems to be solidly an issue with the unit, headphones play sound immediately. [05:52] 21321 [05:53] 123123123 [05:53] 2102.1321 [05:53] guideline: I think a heartbeat would probably be reasonable. [05:56] merpnderp: You plug the headphone into the Unit [05:56] ? [05:57] merpnderp: Btw, if you come out with a workable solution... Nice to hear about it [05:57] No, I plugged it into the line-out on the back of the pc (audio source) [05:57] Ahhh [05:58] What I need is an old-style tape player I can just plug into the unit and see if I get the same delay [05:58] I think I have picture in my head [05:58] Take the PC out of the equation [05:58] How much did you pay for it? [05:58] Didn't. Was a gift. [05:58] MarchHare: You don't have a smart phone? [05:59] Probably in the $150-$200 range is my guess/ [05:59] k [05:59] bugbunny: That's a good idea. [05:59] Gimme a minute [06:00] Hi All, Kindly help me how to setup fingerprint in Ubuntu 18.04? [06:01] I tried everything on Ubuntu 16.04, 17.10 and 17.04 but not able to use NVIDIA graphic driver. These system even failed to load properly often. Thus I moved to 18.04 build image [06:01] The system loads properly but please tell me how to setup NVIDIA graphic driver [06:01] pranav: Do you need to blacklist the nouveau driver? [06:02] pranav: 18.04 isn't released yet, for support head over to #ubuntu+1 [06:02] pranav: 18.04 isn't supported yet (beta only) so #ubuntu+1 may be more appropriate [06:03] MarchHare: Ubuntu 18.04 ran smoothly without any config changes or side effects. However, nvidia driver is not working, i want to setup? [06:03] pranav: Google "blacklist nouveau driver ubuntu" and follow the instructions, then try to reinstall your nv drivers [06:03] sure [06:04] pranav: I had a problem with that a few months ago, it was locking up my machine, and not using the real nv drivers even though I had installed them [06:04] MarchHare: Can I install two ubuntu 18.04? I don't want to curropt my existing ubuntu with this experiement as it happened with 17.10 and 16.04 [06:05] pranav: again, #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support until release [06:06] pranav: Yes, dual boot [06:07] Not sure if the audio issue is my sound card or the unit anymore. Seems to kick on pretty quickly when I hit play on my phone after sitting for a few minutes [06:07] pranav: Any questions specific to 18.04, the other volunteers of the room want's you to move to #ubuntu+1 [06:07] bugbunny: I don't think his question is specific. [06:07] pranav: If you need specific how to dual boot, please ask [06:07] already joined and done! [06:07] K [06:07] thanks [06:08] MarchHare: I like to help [06:08] A net split. I haven [06:08] MarchHare: And I was reading [06:08] t seen one of those in a long time === JosephGrasser is now known as jgrasser [06:19] MarchHare: How did it work out? [06:20] bugbunny: Not yet. It's pissing me off. I'll come back to it later or something [06:27] MarchHare: Okay === bugbunny is now known as bugzbunny [06:39] ubuntu 18.04 is the best so far :) its so responsive. [06:40] hey [06:40] any tips how to debug why my usb 2.0 port isnt working, two 3.0 work just fine.. [06:42] pranav: Linux overall is very good === Tinus is now known as Guest63286 [06:42] rauno: If it's hardware failure, it would be difficult besides diagnosing the board itself [06:43] rauno: The connector, cable, the controller... [06:43] okay, and how to make sure if it's hardware related ? [06:43] im on laptop [06:43] rauno: Have it ever work? [06:43] yep, but not sure when, havent used it for a long time === duy_ is now known as chihiro90 [06:44] rauno: Well, is the port dusty? [06:44] rauno: dmesg in terminal [06:44] dmesg doesnt show annything when i connect wireless mouse adapter there [06:44] rauno: try another mouse adapter [06:45] Okay, that's very liekly a bad port [06:45] yes [06:45] crap :D [06:45] rauno: You can try cleaning it, how old is the laptop? [06:45] Всем привет) [06:45] thought same, but hoped maybe there's some kind of hope :) [06:45] i think 3-4 years heavy usage :) [06:46] Hi all. Tell me please software look like Media Get for Ubuntu [06:46] rauno: Sometimes removing and inserting peripherals can damage the joins that attach to motherboard [06:46] The pin between connectors can get lose [06:46] yeah, i know it from usb3, but haven't used much this 2.0 [06:46] You can try windows, dows Windows detect it? [06:47] so one idea would be to tear it apart and check the connections [06:47] s/dows/does/ [06:47] will try windows later [06:47] you can't help me [06:47] ? [06:49] Sup all. So I installed VirtualBox, slapped on Unbuntu's latest. Looks neat. I'm new at this. Any key suggestions of some activiites I can do on this thing that will help me learn more about linux Ubuntu. I figured I'd ask here first. [06:49] I'm going through some of the man pages now. [06:50] Not sure of the question? If you want to learn how to USE linux overall, there is TONS of blogs [06:50] OhPie: Typically, what specific problem are you having and you need help with? === hw is now known as Guest57773 [06:51] There is a Ubuntu Guideline thing, that I don't know ! is\ [06:51] !guideline [06:51] No problem per se. Just thought I'd get a list of key things you experts would recommend that I try out first. Naturally I'll go onto the web and read the blogs and such. That's all. [06:54] OhPie: Well, we are volunteers and typical users just like your self [06:54] undersood, I'll hit the web up, thanks. [06:54] OhPie: I personally use UbuntuBugie, it works well, I don't have a particular list of things a new user should do [06:55] I think, what's missing, you want? [06:55] For the most part, I find program, not perfect, work well enough for me [07:08] hello to everyone when ubuntu is going to up? [07:08] out [07:10] linurandy: ? [07:10] when the new Ubuntu LTS is going o be out? [07:12] April 26th === shivam is now known as Guest77258 [07:20] hi [07:21] I'm actually new to ubuntu [07:21] i just wanted to know how to create a seperate chatroom [07:21] for me and my friend [07:23] shivam_: On #freenode? [07:23] shivam_: /join #freenode [07:23] ok [07:44] Issues with installing 4.16 mainline kernel in Ubuntu Budgie. :/ [07:45] NoCode: Only issues is perhaps missing syscall [07:46] NoCode: Besides that, there shouldn't be any diffierence, that is impactful than Kernel version 2 - 4 [07:46] https://pastebin.ca/4010307 [07:46] That's a package management issue [07:47] NoCode: You left out the command line [07:48] NoCode: Posting just the error is not very useful than what you did before hand to get the error [07:48] Tried to install both the headers, and image. I put them in a folder, "sudo dpkg -i *.deb". [07:48] So, you trying to install kernel from files you downloaded? [07:49] Yes. [07:49] I am sorry, I won't support helping you with that [07:49] What's wrong with the Kernel you already have? [07:49] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.16/ [07:50] I'm on 4.13. Wanted newer. [07:50] I won't help put your system at risk, if you downloaded from there, I don't support it.. Because it bypass checks [07:51] NoCode: You just want a new kernel for the sake of having a newer kernel? Try ArchLInux then [07:52] Ok. lol [07:59] NoCode: that's not really a good reason to install an unsupported kernel === shivam is now known as Guest52649 === Guest52649 is now known as shivam_ [08:24] how to disable "hwclock --systohc" during shutdown ? [08:27] s10gopal: What version of Ubuntu are you using? [08:28] bugzbunny, ubuntu 14.04 [08:32] buongiorno [08:33] s10gopal: I can't help, I am just guessing, upstart [08:33] Does info about failed cron jobs get stored anywhere? [08:33] cYmen: /var/log [08:33] s10gopal: i have no idea; maybe /etc/default/hwclock (it overrides some settings found in hwclock.sh [08:34] bugzbunny: uhm...where exactly? :) [08:34] I can't find anything. [08:35] a user on ##linux is helping me . thx [08:35] cYmen: Is this a Server? [08:35] bugzbunny: no, my notebook [08:36] cYmen: `What are you running as Cron? btw, you need a Cron deamon? [08:37] I'm just running a random script of mine. Usually works too but when it fails I get no info whatsoever. [08:38] bugzbunny: Is there something else I should be using on a desktop machine? [08:38] or user machine or whatever :r [08:38] :) [08:39] You need to be running a Cron deamon, for Cron jobs to work [08:39] Yes, I am running anacron. [08:39] ahh [08:40] I've used anacron before, but it's been awhile, what is the problem exactly? [08:40] Well, I think I've figured that out now. [08:40] For my cron jobs, I have it E-Mail it [08:40] It cannot tell me about failing cronjobs because there is no MTA installed. [08:40] But if you ask me how I did that, years ago [08:40] Now I'm trying to figure out if I can redirect that to a log somehow. [08:41] Well, AFAIK, correct me if I am wrong, you won't see failurs [08:41] You need the program to output a failure [08:42] AFAIK, my experience with cron, I never got anything when a program fail, without some output [08:44] cYmen: which release is this? === jstein_ is now known as jstein [08:44] ducasse: of what? [08:45] What version of Ubuntu [08:45] cYmen: of the os [08:45] why would that matter? :) [08:45] Do you need help? [08:45] Please do not be osbtacle [08:45] it does matter, if you want answers [08:46] This is a 17.10. [08:47] then try 'journalctl -u cron.service' [08:49] the answer would be different if you were on 14.04, which is why release matters [08:49] Ah, yeah, I already did that, that's how I figured out that it is trying to send me e-mails. [08:50] And apparently that cannot be changed and one has to add redirects to the cron lines. [09:00] Woke my computer from suspend this morning and saw the login screen - I had been logged out, and all my apps closed, apparently while the computer was suspended? Can anyone help me get to the bottom of what might have happened here? Tried looking in some log files (e.g. in Gnome Logs) but not seeing any obvious messages about a crash or anything [09:02] seanh: maybe xorg or something segfaulted [09:03] seanh: try cat ~/.xsession-errors and sudo grep -iE "error|segfault" /var/log/kern.log [09:04] EriC^: Thanks. No ~/.xsession-errors file. In kern.log I see this: [09:04] Apr 3 09:54:27 chamlis kernel: [852749.687717] [drm:intel_display_resume [i915]] *ERROR* Restoring old state failed with -22 [09:04] seanh: Please bastebin the logs [09:04] That's at about the time I turned on the computer this morning [09:05] seanh: Has it ever work? [09:05] bugzbunny: All of kern.log? [09:05] bugzbunny: It usually works yes [09:05] seanh: When does stop working? [09:07] Here's kern.log: https://pastebin.com/DgfXRuu7 [09:07] seanh: So it always worked and it just stopped working? [09:07] seanh: Or it never worked? [09:08] bugzbunny: Well, I think I've seen this incident a couple of times: When I return to my computer the next day after suspending it over night, it wakes from suspend and it has logged me out. Its pretty rare, it happens maybe once every few weeks. The rest of the time waking from suspend works fine. [09:08] seanh: That's not a clue what happened, so, it worked then stopped working? [09:09] Most of the time when I suspend the computer and then wake it from suspend it works. Occasionally I find that I've been logged out [09:10] K [09:10] For example when I woke it from suspend this morning I found that I was logged out. But just now I suspended it for a minute and woke it again - it was fine [09:10] seanh: No idea bud, so it sometimes works and sometimes work [09:11] That's, Linux [09:11] seanh: Now, what's useful, what hardware [09:12] seanh: The more information you give, the more helpful please [09:12] I'm not sure the issue is with suspend and wake as such. I've seen it do things while it's on and I'm using the computer: it suddenly logs me out, or freezes. It doesn't happen all the time, it happens pretty rarely actually, less than once per week. Has been happening much less often since I switched from Gnome to Openbox too [09:12] Here's a pastebin of the lshw command: https://pastebin.com/fGkhzDuW [09:12] it suddenly logs me out [09:13] I think Display Manager sigfault [09:13] I just think.. [09:13] It does seem like the sort of thing that could be a display manager issue [09:14] I tried Gnome both with Wayland and with X and it had this problem with both. Now using Openbox and the problem seems _much_ rarer but not completely gone. For example this morning: wake from suspend and I'm logged out. WTF? And the things is I've _never_ found a clue in any log file or anything, after one of these crashes [09:17] seanh: Use what works? [09:19] Is there an easy way for me to find out whether the computer rebooted overnight? [09:19] "uptime" [09:19] or just "w" [09:19] Ok, uptime says 29 days so I guess it didn't reboot, just logged me out [09:19] Is there a (good) native client for chat.google.com available in Ubuntu? [09:21] seanh: i think so. it would be normal for it to suspend after a while of not being used, and to ask for your password when you return. [09:22] tomreyn: No, it's not that it locked the screen and asked for my password. It logged me out: desktop session ended, all apps closed. It looks as if something (the display manager, the desktop, ...?) crashed. But I'm just trying to find a clue as to what happened [09:24] silver_hook: there is yakyak https://github.com/yakyak/yakyak/releases [09:25] silver_hook: it is probably too new to have made it into ubuntu, though. [09:25] tomreyn: That’s what I noticed as well. There’s also Rambox, but that’s just an Electron wrapper. [09:26] seanh: oh, got you wrong there. check "dmesg -T" and /var/log/Xorg.*.log then [09:27] I understand the problem [09:27]