[00:00] <valorie> howevever all files seem to be read only in spite of chowning and chmoding
[00:00] <BionicMac> the disk/partition needs to be mounted in read write when it is mounted.
[00:01] <BionicMac> Are you actually trying to write (save files to) the that disk or just copy files from?
[00:01] <valorie> since I'm trying to access it from a different drive than originally, I'm assuming that is a safety measure
[00:01] <valorie> I need to read and write
[00:02] <valorie> it certainly was read/write from my previous install on the dead ssd
[00:02] <valorie> oh shoot, I'm out of time for now
[00:02] <valorie> dinner and meeting before I'm back
[00:03] <valorie> thanks for your help so far, BionicMac
[00:04] <BionicMac> Is this a usb drive?
[00:06] <mparillo> After installing BB, my password displays in SDDM. Could that be related to the new theme?
[00:06] <BionicMac> valorie: Is this a usb drive?
[00:13] <BionicMac> valorie: Let's try this first: (make sure you are not in the directory /media/valorie/Data  then type this ->   'sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sdb1' 
[00:20] <BionicMac> If that mount/remount doesn't work, no worries. We can explicitly give it mount points & file system type, np.  
 Very clean, successful Beta 2 OEM install completed.  Moving on to manual partition....
 FWIW, successfully upgrade a 32b 17.10 session to 18.04 just for grins and the process was flawless.  (Previous attempt with 64b version were crashed for dep issues during upgrade).
 Manual partition using minimal install was also successfull.   Calling it a night....
[04:37] <valorie> not a usb; it is a HD
[04:49] <BionicMac> Ok. DiD you run the 'mount remount command yet?
[04:52] <BionicMac> valorie: I can't see my irc channel log here but you should see the command in this channel window.
[04:53] <valorie> yes, I did it, and I think it's working
[04:53] <BionicMac> yup
[04:54] <BionicMac> type 'df' and paste it here. or 'df -a' and pastebin it. try to save/edit a file to your Data partition please.
[04:54] <BionicMac> I'm booted up to my first test of Kubuntu Live session beta 2. 
[05:14] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2pW3sDMK57/
[05:14] <valorie> BionicMac: ^^
[05:20] <BionicMac> valorie: would you type 'mount | grep sdb' and pastebin it please? Actually it will only be a couple of lines you could paste that result here. either way. thanks
[05:20] <BionicMac> valorie: Did you test write to disk ?
[05:21] <valorie> mount | grep sdb
[05:21] <valorie> /dev/sdb1 on /media/valorietest/Data type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
[05:22] <valorie> /dev/sdb2 on /media/valorietest/9e20e1ac-d8de-49a9-9243-f35f01abdb15 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered,uhelper=udisks2)
[05:22] <valorie> I will try that, sure
[05:22] <BionicMac> Youa re all good. See the (rw  <- ?
[05:22] <BionicMac> You're*
[05:22] <valorie> yes!
[05:22] <valorie> \o/
[05:23] <valorie> so why is ktorrent still fighting me
[05:23] <valorie> lol
[05:23] <BionicMac> hmmmm... I don't know that. Is ktorrent not wanting to write to that partition?
[05:24] <valorie> it keeps crashing on me instead of writing there
[05:24] <valorie> so I guess I'll install qbittorent instead
[05:25] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 2] has been updated (20180404)
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[05:26] <BionicMac> valorie: First thin you should try writing to partition. just 'cd /media/valorietest/Data && touch DELETEME && ls -la DELETEME' and see if it wrote the file DELETEME. 
[05:28] <valorie> touch: cannot touch 'DELETEME': No such file or directory
[05:28] <valorie> so no
[05:28] <BionicMac> Plus you manuall remounted that partition. We should make sure the system is going to mount it properly/automatically when you boot. With the correct rw permissions. 
[05:30] <valorie> well, my son should be able to help me with that within the next few days
[05:31] <valorie> but I just wanted to get up and running so I could do the beta testing
[05:31] <valorie> I won't restart until that's done
[05:31] <BionicMac> Right. Have you rebooted?
[05:31] <valorie> not since this morning
[05:32] <BionicMac> I mean I am not sure where you stand. Are you stillbooting the same OS on the machine? that awas your storage drive ?
[05:33] <valorie> I'm booting from /dev/sdb2
[05:34] <BionicMac> You sure because I show your / root partition to be on /dev/sda2
[05:34] <valorie> err, 
[05:34] <valorie>  /dev/sdb1 was the Data disk from my old install from the dead ssd
[05:35] <valorie> hmmm
[05:35] <valorie> how can that be? it's the dead one
[05:35] <valorie> I think
[05:35] <BionicMac> Did you move any cables around after the disk died?
[05:35] <valorie> unsure
[05:35] <valorie> heck no
[05:36] <valorie> just tried to get up and running again
[05:36] <valorie> this is a laptop
[05:37] <BionicMac> From the pastebin output your / (root)  is "/dev/sda2" and  your boot (/boot/efi) is /dev/sda1.
[05:38] <BionicMac> In other words you are installed running and booting from the disk "/dev/sda" -  two partitions /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 .
[05:39] <BionicMac> Did you reinstall after the crash? Because that is where your system is running on.
[05:40] <BionicMac> At least that iswhat I would guess from that output. 
[05:42] <valorie> well
[05:42] <valorie> huh
[05:43] <BionicMac> Sometimes it is hard troubleshoot when I can't put my hands and eyes on it. 
[05:43] <valorie> unsure then why I'm missing all my data
[05:43] <valorie> yes
[05:43] <valorie> thanks for your help so far
[05:44] <BionicMac> You're quite welcome.   
[05:49] <BionicMac> I'm testing the Live session beta2... So far so good. One problem child is "Kontact" I will have to file a bug and report this on my results. 
[05:51] <BionicMac> valorie: I'm going to take a break. My eyes are hurting from staring at the screen today. If Idon't see you again tonight then Good Luck and I am sure you will get the laptop sorted out. 
[05:51] <BionicMac> I will finish testing the live session tonight. Tomorrow I will test a full install to disk.
 gah, my screen froze
 gonna wait it out if possible
 thank you again!
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[11:01] <acheronuk> testers. FYI, you might run into this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krita/+bug/1760347
[11:01] <acheronuk> so please refer to that bug in the tracker, rather than reporting a new one
[11:01] <acheronuk> thanks
[11:02] <acheronuk> duh. wrong bug
[11:02] <acheronuk> this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1760598
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[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:22] <mparillo> Thanks acheronuk. That is what I saw when I wrote that I had to force-power-down my VM in superceded build: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/388/builds/169585/testcases/1300/results
[13:30] <acheronuk> mparillo: thanks :)
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[15:51] <AlexZion> on kubuntu 18.04 32 bit sometime I get plasma completelly freezed, so I can still move the mouse but nothing happens hen I click everywhere, how should I do get some more info about this problem  ?, considering  that I can access this machine even with ssh using another pc 
[15:55] <blaze> can be anything, you need a kernel with bfs/bfq patches
[15:57] <AlexZion> but I know exactly howw to reproduce, I men using some software always happens so If I can in some way remotelly check the status of this machine  maybe can helps
[15:59] <AlexZion> blaze:  for example trying  to open a small architectural project in blender :D
[16:00] <blaze> I think it's IO, so no other way to resolve this except BFQ
[16:01] <AlexZion> like I said now I have the desktop plasma freezed but I can still accessing by ssh 
[16:05] <AlexZion> using ssh if I run top i can see that blender is stressing the CPU https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[16:05] <AlexZion> ops, sorry https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YTnp7zMjjt/
[16:09] <pursuivant> muon (master) v5.8.0-3-g9af13dba * Burkhard Lück: src/org.kde.muon.desktop
[16:09] <pursuivant> Remove X-DocPath from org.kde.muon.desktop
[16:09] <pursuivant> muon does not have a docbook, therefore delete the entry X-DocPath from desktop file
[16:09] <pursuivant> Differential Revision: https://phabricator.kde.org/D11865
[16:09] <pursuivant> https://commits.kde.org/muon/9af13dba32e6e7a665ab5f156ee65ff8c6bb0da3
[16:17] <AlexZion> blaze:  I tried to run "ubuntu-bug blender" through ssh, and even if I cannot send the report because the desktop is freezed I saved the file and maybe can helps !?!, i did the same for  plasma desktop ....., should I try "track" some other package ? 
[16:21] <AlexZion> otherwise blaze, how can I install a kernel with bfs/bfq patches ?
[17:06] <santa_> good evening everyone
[17:09] <BionicMac> santa_: good morning
[17:20] <santa_> you must be in a exotic timezone then XD
[17:25] <BionicMac> Or I'm just not a morning person.
[17:26] <BionicMac> =)
[17:26] <BionicMac> santa_: It's 12:26 here. I'm just having coffee.
[17:26] <BionicMac> AM
[17:26] <BionicMac> err PM
[17:27] <santa_> so 12:26
[17:27] <santa_> not 00:26
[17:28] <[Relic]> once the coffee kicks in he will figure out the am pm thing
[17:28] <santa_> haha
[17:28] <santa_> I need to reboot brb
[17:37] <santa_> acheronuk: fyi KA 2.2 alpha 1 released + my server is going to be down for some days
[17:38] <santa_> I'm awaiting for a cheap graphic card to see what's going on
[17:44] <phoenix_firebrd> santa_: cheap means nvidia 1060?
[17:49] <santa_> phoenix_firebrd: nvidia quadro, second hand
[17:49] <santa_> lonchafinismo extremo
[17:49] <santa_> (~ extreme thinslicism)
[17:50] <santa_> (~ being cheap as an ideology)
[17:54] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[18:39] <BionicMac> I was testing "Kubuntu Live Session" on yesterdays daily (which is considered beta2 according to the qatracker). Anyone else having issues with running 'Kontact' ?  Very very slow starting up, if at all here. I'm retesting later this afternoon on testcases  "Live Session" and "Install - Manual Partitiong". Just thought I would drop here incase someone else can run Kontact and see what gives. I'll file proper on qatracker if the issue persists 
[18:39] <BionicMac> on a 2nd test.  
[18:39] <mparillo> Anybody else having troubles running zsync on today's ISO for Beta 2 testing?
[18:40] <BionicMac> mparillo: I will test zsync now... brb
[18:41] <BionicMac> mparillo: Deskotp amd64 image?
[18:44] <BionicMac> mparillo: running zsync now on Kubuntu desktop amd64 Beta 2 iso... against yesterdays iso... 
[18:45] <BionicMac> mparillo: Well, it seems to have stuck.
[18:45] <mparillo> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/bionic-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[18:50] <BionicMac> mparillo: Fail.
[18:51] <mparillo> failed to retrieve from bionic-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:51] <mparillo> Aborting, download available in bionic-desktop-amd64.iso.part
[18:55] <BionicMac> Same error here. However, on another attempt it worked.
[19:03] <mparillo> I have tried from two different computers on two different networks maybe half a dozen times over the last nine hours or so.
[20:30] <phoenix_firebrd> BionicMac: what time the final beta will be released?
 late tommorow most likely
[20:35] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
 @Santa cheers. will test in coming days
[21:16] <clivejo_> hi folks, anyone on Kubuntu team on this mailing list - https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdeconnect/2018-April/003494.html
[21:17] <clivejo_> apparently there is also an issue with the Debian packaging depending on plasma packaging?
[21:19] <acheronuk> clivejo_: yeah, but we removed that dep a long while ago
[21:19] <clivejo_> https://nicolasfella.wordpress.com/2018/04/04/kde-connect-tips-tricks-and-misconceptions/
[21:19] <clivejo_> in debian too?
[21:19] <acheronuk> nope
[21:19] <clivejo_> maybe Simon could look at that issue?
[21:20] <acheronuk> they are looking at it after that blog was pointed out
[21:21] <clivejo_> good stuff
[21:22] <clivejo_> kdeconnect has a lot of fixes, so would deffo be good to get into LTS
[21:23] <acheronuk> ok. I'll maybe try to talk to them tommorow
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[23:19] <valorie> hmmm, why isn't zsync using the beta1 image I gave it
[23:19] <valorie> :(
[23:20] <valorie> I didn't solve the ro data drive so copied it over
[23:21] <BionicMac> valorie: That's a shame to lose the data. 
[23:23] <BionicMac> valorie: So you didn't lose an ssd drive? I thought you lost a drive. Anyways, I guess you have you have a fresh cleanly installed system now. 
[23:23] <valorie> I'll go over to my son's house this weekend so he can help me figure out what's going on
[23:24] <BionicMac> Ok great. =) 
[23:24] <valorie> I can just copy the data I need for now
[23:24] <valorie> annoying, but whatever
[23:24] <valorie> gah, no i386 tests at ALL
[23:24] <BionicMac> oh great you can access the data from that partition we were working on last night?
[23:24] <valorie> much less on i386 machines
[23:24] <valorie> :(
[23:25] <BionicMac> Well, I could grab an old i386 out of my closet if it need to be done that bad.
[23:25] <BionicMac> I'll have to put one together from old hw but it can be donw. 
[23:25] <BionicMac> s/donw/done/
[23:25] <valorie> I don't have any
[23:26] <valorie> so I've been doing testing on my travel laptop
[23:26] <valorie> not really good enough imo
[23:26]  * valorie goes to write to the list again
[23:27] <BionicMac> Sounds like I have another project. Lte me get through with these two tests on the new image (Install-manual paritioning & Live session) and I will start putting that i386 together.
[23:33] <BionicMac> My old machines are so old I need a seperate Wifi card. Where are all my cat5 cables.... 
[23:35] <valorie> now to wonder if anyone reads the ML.....
[23:36] <BionicMac> I saw your email conserning 386. An d the only email in April is you announcing the beta2 dropping.
[23:39] <valorie> yeah
[23:39] <BionicMac> s/conserning/concerning/ - man this flat thin keyboard is hard to get used to... Apple Magic KB.
[23:39] <valorie> I should have written one yesterday afternoon but for some reason got all caught up in the computer issues
[23:40] <BionicMac> It's easy to do.
[23:41] <BionicMac> valorie: So this image listed under Bionic Beaver Beta 2 on qatracker is not the official beta2? A candidate? 
[23:41] <valorie> there was one mail from santa_ as well
[23:41] <valorie> it is a candidate, yes
[23:41] <valorie> could be the same as the final
[23:41] <valorie> if all goes well
[23:42] <valorie> or if they discover something serious and are able to fix, they will respin
[23:42] <valorie> so this is first-level testing
[23:42] <valorie> before the beta2 is released
[23:43] <BionicMac> Ok thanks. I'm looking for a good true dedicated server host. Any recommendations? If I go with a VPS then I already know a couple of good ones.
[23:45] <wxl> as an ubuntu member you get a discount from gandi
[23:45] <BionicMac> If I go vps I'll probably use digitalocean or linode.  Still deciding atm. I know this is offtopic but I figure this is a great place to ask. 
[23:45] <BionicMac> wxl: Thanks! I will check them out.
[23:50] <BionicMac> wxl: All I have to be a Ubuntu member is the Ubuntu login account? What do I need to present for the discount at Gandi?
[23:51] <acheronuk> Kubuntu uses linode for our packaging and a KCI node. but we get that free with sponsorship. but they are good
[23:51] <BionicMac> I've had linode/digitalocean/gandi before. Really and truly they are all top shelf companies.
[23:52] <BionicMac> Those are the 3 I have narrowed it down to.
[23:53] <BionicMac> I've used VPSs at DO & Linode. Only domain and dns at Ganda.
[23:54] <acheronuk> K/Ubuntu membership requires you to apply, and demonstrate sustained significant contributions to the project. typically 6 months or more, but case by case
[23:55] <acheronuk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[23:56] <acheronuk> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership
[23:57] <BionicMac> acheronuk: Thank you very much.