[01:44] <Bashing-om> Woot! (x)ubuntu core 18.04 installs with no issues :))
[03:03] <ChmEarl> my Xen VM failed to boot when my initrd.img was 49 MB, I went most -> dep in initramfs.conf, the initrd.img now was 20MB and boot worked. The initrd.img still seems very large for a virtual machine
[03:04] <ChmEarl> pygrub can grab too much memory and fail
[05:28] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: " sysop@x1804mini:~$  " on the core install .
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: xubuntu or desktop?
[05:35] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: This time on a new SSD the core install went smooth as butter - no issues either with 18.04 in this version :)
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> df -h ?
[05:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Presently have both standard ubuntu and xubuntu-core installed .
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> cool
[05:38] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: http://termbin.com/ml38 .
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: wow, tight n clean!
[05:41] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Look'n good : http://termbin.com/9vdv .
[05:44] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Wonders why the lables ^^ did not carry over .. humm .. a bit nore futzing to do yet .
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> sweet :p
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> madghost: see topic for daily iso's
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> madghost: 18.04 still in development, but already in a stable stage
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> madghost: and we always seek testers/buggers
[05:49] <alkisg> ChmEarl: yeah my 18.04 initramfs here is 160 MB uncompressed, so I imagine the system won't boot with less than 200 MB RAM anymore...
[05:49] <alkisg> The amdgpu firmware is to blame for a lot of this
[05:50] <madghost> nice ) cool, this is a good day :-)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg 
[05:50] <alkisg> Good morning guys
[10:24] <thresh> is there a server/netinstall daily .iso I could fetch for 18.04?
[10:24] <thresh> ah there it is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[10:25] <thresh> no i386 :-(
[11:51] <tomreyn> thresh: you probably want the ubuntu-server-live instead. but there is probably no i686 iso for this either (have not checked though)
[11:53] <tomreyn> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/current/
[11:54] <tomreyn> right, just amd64, arm64 and ppc64el
[11:54] <thresh> I don't need a live cd no; that iso will go to a packer json file, to generate a golden image I'll use in my cloud
[11:54] <thresh> (I'll update it to GA version when it's out)
[11:55] <thresh> and yeah, seems like server i386 images are dropped like desktop ones in the previous versions
[11:55] <thresh> I don't mind really, less packages to build for me :)
[12:24] <tomreyn> thresh: daily-live is the new ubuntu server installer, the one you downloaded is the classic one and did not work for me when i tried it a few days ago.
[12:24] <tomreyn> it was inherently broken
[12:25] <tomreyn> the daily-live one, however, worked fine
[12:25] <thresh> oh
[12:25] <thresh> it worked here
[12:25] <tomreyn> okay, so i just hit a bad daily then i guess
[12:26] <tomreyn> still i'd recommend considering to use the new one, since it will replace the old one sooner or later
[12:26] <tomreyn> it is also a lot nicer to use for manual installations (i do not know about the automation POV)
[12:27] <thresh> yeah, good to know
[12:27] <thresh> I'm relying on a horrible mess of inputing chars char by char via VNC now to automate the install :-)
[12:27] <tomreyn> omg
[12:27] <tomreyn> you know about pressding, right?
[12:27] <tomreyn> *preseeding
[12:27] <thresh> sure, and that's what I use
[12:28] <tomreyn> why do you still need to input characters on vnc then?
[12:28] <thresh> when you boot up the iso on kvm you need to tell it where to fetch the preseed from
[12:29] <thresh> https://github.com/kaorimatz/packer-templates/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-amd64.json
[12:29] <thresh> see boot_command
[12:29] <tomreyn> does kvm not support netbooting?
[12:29] <thresh> I know the proper solution is to use ipxe
[12:29] <tomreyn> that's what i'd think, yes
[12:29] <thresh> but I have no idea if it's implemented in kvm or in packer
[12:30] <tomreyn> i dont know packer, but i bet there's netbooting in kvm
[12:30] <thresh> I would think so too
[12:33] <tomreyn> https://serverfault.com/questions/850853/private-pxe-boot-network-with-kvm
[12:33] <tomreyn> the question is irrelevant, just read the answr
[12:34] <thresh> yup so it works with kvm
[12:35] <tomreyn> and is really easy to use :)
[12:39] <thresh> yes, I do have it set up for baremetal servers provisioning
[13:26] <akem> Is it Gnome 3.28 in Ubuntu 18.04?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:26] <akem> Cool.
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> akem: and nautilus 3.26
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell
[13:31] <akem> I hope they will fix the gnome-shell mem-leak bug quickly or it could really impact user experience for next LTS.
[13:32] <akem> In 3.28 they fixed a gnome-system-monitor bug, reversed infos on disk read/write, i still got it here on 17.10.
[13:33] <akem> Not that important this one, just wrong infos displayed.
[13:34] <akem> !info vlc
[13:34] <akem> There is something wrong with package size on the bot? :)
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> akem: article i readed says they taking care of memory bug
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> akem: package size and install size is a different thing
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> akem: and with all the dependecys, even more
[13:38] <akem> lotuspsychje, yea i know it's like compressed when packaged, but only few Kb there?
[13:41] <akem> I use gnome-shell-extensions also, i didn't know about them, they are great for customisation, installed via the browser on the website / at first i tought it would something be based on the browsers' engine or something.
[13:43] <thresh> akem, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/vlc/filelist
[13:43] <thresh> it's just a virtual package
[13:43] <thresh> well, poor wording
[13:44] <thresh> it's not virtual, but "common" stuff with depends on other packages
[13:44] <akem> Ha ok, it's just the description of some sort, nm.
[16:55] <akem> Here is my version of the gnome-shell workaround if anyone is interested https://pastebin.com/dzPa1bid
[17:06] <Ian_Corne> anyone using touchpad-indicator?
[20:30] <rud0lf> hello, have you noticed poor flash player performance on firefox?
[20:34] <akem> Flash player in 2018?
[20:34] <rud0lf> some pages still require it
[20:35] <akem> I didn't know.
[20:35] <rud0lf> :)
[21:16] <akem> Do you know why Ubuntu switched from Unity to Gnome btw? because Unity seemed well functionnal and integrated in previous versions.
[21:17] <TJ-> akem: it was costing Canonical too much to maintain
[21:19] <akem> Ok, so because of costs. I didn't know it could be costly for them.
[21:20] <TJ-> akem: employing all the developers is expensive
[21:22] <akem> TJ-, i though it was a decentralized project with maybe just a little team on top guiding stuff, like some other projects.
[21:24] <TJ-> akem: no
[21:25] <TJ-> akem: see e.g. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/06/canonical_cuts_jobs_with_unity_bullet/
[21:29] <akem> Interesting.
[21:54] <tomreyn> would anyone feel like helping me understand how to make any of the 18.04 installers boot properly on a GPD pocket, and how to install ubuntu there so it'll boot?
[21:56] <tomreyn> with the extra difficulties of FDE and internet access thorugh usb<->ethernet device
[21:57] <tomreyn> i got 18.04 running there (upgraded from a respun installer found on the internet) but not encrypted, and i can't tell which modifications were made.
[21:58] <tomreyn> any of the default 18.04 installers just run into a black screen when leaving single user mode, i think
[21:59] <tomreyn> nomodeset does not help, vga=791 does not help
[22:01] <tomreyn> i guess i could debootstrap it from a recovery iso or something
[22:19] <marquezini> how can i download prerelease
[22:22] <marquezini> any mirror of daily build?
[22:22] <nacc> marquezini: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/HEADER.html
[22:23] <marquezini> nacc, tk
[22:23] <marquezini> ask a question for me
[22:24] <marquezini> if i update this daily build after the lts is released i get the latest system without the bug that come in pre-release versions?
[22:24] <nacc> marquezini: 'the bug'?
[22:24] <marquezini> bugs
[22:24] <nacc> marquezini: well, presuming those bugs are fixed, sure
[22:24] <marquezini> not "the bug" "bugs"
[22:25] <marquezini> ok
[22:25] <marquezini> ok
[22:25] <nacc> marquezini: obviously not all bugs are fixed
[22:25] <marquezini> working well, fine for me
[22:30] <tomreyn> actually the (new) server live-installer starts fine on the gpd
[22:30] <tomreyn> it doesn't detect existing partitons, though
[23:21] <akem> Sometimes on 17.10 when i reboot i got my login screen upside down, i'm using the NVidia drivers, i wonder if i should report it.
[23:22] <akem> I rebooted and my screen is back normal without changing anything.
[23:22] <nacc> akem: 17.10 is in #ubuntu
[23:23] <akem> Oh right sorry.