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Bashing-omWoot! (x)ubuntu core 18.04 installs with no issues :))01:44
ChmEarlmy Xen VM failed to boot when my initrd.img was 49 MB, I went most -> dep in initramfs.conf, the initrd.img now was 20MB and boot worked. The initrd.img still seems very large for a virtual machine03:03
ChmEarlpygrub can grab too much memory and fail03:04
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Bashing-omlotuspsychje: " sysop@x1804mini:~$  " on the core install .05:28
lotuspsychjecool05:32
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: xubuntu or desktop?05:34
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: This time on a new SSD the core install went smooth as butter - no issues either with 18.04 in this version :)05:35
lotuspsychjedf -h ?05:36
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Presently have both standard ubuntu and xubuntu-core installed .05:36
lotuspsychjecool05:37
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: http://termbin.com/ml38 .05:38
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: wow, tight n clean!05:39
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Look'n good : http://termbin.com/9vdv .05:41
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Wonders why the lables ^^ did not carry over .. humm .. a bit nore futzing to do yet .05:44
lotuspsychjesweet :p05:44
lotuspsychjemadghost: see topic for daily iso's05:46
lotuspsychjemadghost: 18.04 still in development, but already in a stable stage05:47
lotuspsychjemadghost: and we always seek testers/buggers05:47
alkisgChmEarl: yeah my 18.04 initramfs here is 160 MB uncompressed, so I imagine the system won't boot with less than 200 MB RAM anymore...05:49
alkisgThe amdgpu firmware is to blame for a lot of this05:49
madghostnice ) cool, this is a good day :-)05:50
lotuspsychjemorning alkisg 05:50
alkisgGood morning guys05:50
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threshis there a server/netinstall daily .iso I could fetch for 18.04?10:24
threshah there it is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/10:24
threshno i386 :-(10:25
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tomreynthresh: you probably want the ubuntu-server-live instead. but there is probably no i686 iso for this either (have not checked though)11:51
tomreynhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/current/11:53
tomreynright, just amd64, arm64 and ppc64el11:54
threshI don't need a live cd no; that iso will go to a packer json file, to generate a golden image I'll use in my cloud11:54
thresh(I'll update it to GA version when it's out)11:54
threshand yeah, seems like server i386 images are dropped like desktop ones in the previous versions11:55
threshI don't mind really, less packages to build for me :)11:55
tomreynthresh: daily-live is the new ubuntu server installer, the one you downloaded is the classic one and did not work for me when i tried it a few days ago.12:24
tomreynit was inherently broken12:24
tomreynthe daily-live one, however, worked fine12:25
threshoh12:25
threshit worked here12:25
tomreynokay, so i just hit a bad daily then i guess12:25
tomreynstill i'd recommend considering to use the new one, since it will replace the old one sooner or later12:26
tomreynit is also a lot nicer to use for manual installations (i do not know about the automation POV)12:26
threshyeah, good to know12:27
threshI'm relying on a horrible mess of inputing chars char by char via VNC now to automate the install :-)12:27
tomreynomg12:27
tomreynyou know about pressding, right?12:27
tomreyn*preseeding12:27
threshsure, and that's what I use12:27
tomreynwhy do you still need to input characters on vnc then?12:28
threshwhen you boot up the iso on kvm you need to tell it where to fetch the preseed from12:28
threshhttps://github.com/kaorimatz/packer-templates/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-amd64.json12:29
threshsee boot_command12:29
tomreyndoes kvm not support netbooting?12:29
threshI know the proper solution is to use ipxe12:29
tomreynthat's what i'd think, yes12:29
threshbut I have no idea if it's implemented in kvm or in packer12:29
tomreyni dont know packer, but i bet there's netbooting in kvm12:30
threshI would think so too12:30
tomreynhttps://serverfault.com/questions/850853/private-pxe-boot-network-with-kvm12:33
tomreynthe question is irrelevant, just read the answr12:33
threshyup so it works with kvm12:34
tomreynand is really easy to use :)12:35
threshyes, I do have it set up for baremetal servers provisioning12:39
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akemIs it Gnome 3.28 in Ubuntu 18.04?13:26
lotuspsychjeyes13:26
akemCool.13:26
lotuspsychjeakem: and nautilus 3.2613:27
lotuspsychje!info gnome-shell13:27
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-0ubuntu2 (bionic), package size 675 kB, installed size 7395 kB13:27
akemI hope they will fix the gnome-shell mem-leak bug quickly or it could really impact user experience for next LTS.13:31
akemIn 3.28 they fixed a gnome-system-monitor bug, reversed infos on disk read/write, i still got it here on 17.10.13:32
akemNot that important this one, just wrong infos displayed.13:33
akem!info vlc13:34
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-3 (bionic), package size 31 kB, installed size 153 kB13:34
akemThere is something wrong with package size on the bot? :)13:34
lotuspsychjeakem: article i readed says they taking care of memory bug13:35
lotuspsychjeakem: package size and install size is a different thing13:35
lotuspsychjeakem: and with all the dependecys, even more13:37
akemlotuspsychje, yea i know it's like compressed when packaged, but only few Kb there?13:38
akemI use gnome-shell-extensions also, i didn't know about them, they are great for customisation, installed via the browser on the website / at first i tought it would something be based on the browsers' engine or something.13:41
threshakem, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/vlc/filelist13:43
threshit's just a virtual package13:43
threshwell, poor wording13:43
threshit's not virtual, but "common" stuff with depends on other packages13:44
akemHa ok, it's just the description of some sort, nm.13:44
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akemHere is my version of the gnome-shell workaround if anyone is interested https://pastebin.com/dzPa1bid16:55
Ian_Corneanyone using touchpad-indicator?17:06
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rud0lfhello, have you noticed poor flash player performance on firefox?20:30
akemFlash player in 2018?20:34
rud0lfsome pages still require it20:34
akemI didn't know.20:35
rud0lf:)20:35
akemDo you know why Ubuntu switched from Unity to Gnome btw? because Unity seemed well functionnal and integrated in previous versions.21:16
TJ-akem: it was costing Canonical too much to maintain21:17
akemOk, so because of costs. I didn't know it could be costly for them.21:19
TJ-akem: employing all the developers is expensive21:20
akemTJ-, i though it was a decentralized project with maybe just a little team on top guiding stuff, like some other projects.21:22
TJ-akem: no21:24
TJ-akem: see e.g. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/06/canonical_cuts_jobs_with_unity_bullet/21:25
akemInteresting.21:29
tomreynwould anyone feel like helping me understand how to make any of the 18.04 installers boot properly on a GPD pocket, and how to install ubuntu there so it'll boot?21:54
tomreynwith the extra difficulties of FDE and internet access thorugh usb<->ethernet device21:56
tomreyni got 18.04 running there (upgraded from a respun installer found on the internet) but not encrypted, and i can't tell which modifications were made.21:57
tomreynany of the default 18.04 installers just run into a black screen when leaving single user mode, i think21:58
tomreynnomodeset does not help, vga=791 does not help21:59
tomreyni guess i could debootstrap it from a recovery iso or something22:01
marquezinihow can i download prerelease22:19
marqueziniany mirror of daily build?22:22
naccmarquezini: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/HEADER.html22:22
marquezininacc, tk22:23
marqueziniask a question for me22:23
marqueziniif i update this daily build after the lts is released i get the latest system without the bug that come in pre-release versions?22:24
naccmarquezini: 'the bug'?22:24
marquezinibugs22:24
naccmarquezini: well, presuming those bugs are fixed, sure22:24
marquezininot "the bug" "bugs"22:24
marqueziniok22:25
marqueziniok22:25
naccmarquezini: obviously not all bugs are fixed22:25
marqueziniworking well, fine for me22:25
tomreynactually the (new) server live-installer starts fine on the gpd22:30
tomreynit doesn't detect existing partitons, though22:30
akemSometimes on 17.10 when i reboot i got my login screen upside down, i'm using the NVidia drivers, i wonder if i should report it.23:21
akemI rebooted and my screen is back normal without changing anything.23:22
naccakem: 17.10 is in #ubuntu23:22
akemOh right sorry.23:23

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