 Hey @mariogrip and team, thank you for your continued support <3
 ❤️
[02:10] <metalbiker> can anyone tell me if ubuntu sdk ide'll support 18.04 LTS after the launch of it?
 i doubt it will
 i mean, the old ubuntu sdk ide is a massive project on top of qtcreator and nobody is really working on it afaik
[02:20] <metalbiker> so nobody's working on qtcreator either?
 qtcreator itself is not related to unity8, i guess upstream qtcreator devs still work on qtcreator
 the ubuntu touch plug-in and all that stuff though, nobody is really maintaining
[02:22] <metalbiker> hmm, sad. so how do you guys there at ubports work on ubuntu touch and make apps for it?
[02:23] <metalbiker> just use python with a text editor?
[02:23] <metalbiker> i mean, i'm getting back into school for programming and i want programming for ubuntu touch to be one of my projects
 well not python
 but right now i use emacs, yes
[02:24] <metalbiker> emacs, i'll have to look into that.
 Working on the system itself and working on Apps are two different things.
 not necessarily
 It should be possible to make a Ubuntu Touch target for mainline Qt
 The recommended way to do apps is using clickable.
 A push for QtQuick2 would also be very nice, but of course that takes engineering resources
 There is some clickable integration into atom. But actually you could use any ide
 clickable just has a template for the click package and a project though. it doesn't provide a full ide
[02:28] <metalbiker> jonny: well, i'm just interested in making apps at the moment. and eventually working on the system itself, too.
 i would say just make some stuff in qml and learn how to use it, then
 doesn't need to ubuntu components or such necessarily, just try to wrap your head around getting layout working correctly and such. qtquick2 layouts helps quite a bit with that
 Lenovo ThinkPad 8 possible port?
[02:31] <metalbiker> dohbee: ok, i'll look into that, too as well.
 isn't that just a regular laptop?
 "dockable windows 8 business tablet" BLECH
 well it's intel
 surface rt port soon
 and Switch
 so i mean just install ubuntu on it
 figure out where JTAG ports on the surface and it's yours
 and switch has a mainline port :D
 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Touch-Spotted-Running-on-Former-Windows-8-1-Tablet-Lenovo-ThinkPad-8-469594.shtml
 that is 3 years old
 and it's almost certainly just a regular install of ubuntu, running unity8
 just install standard ubuntu and put Unity 8
 I have an idea: Some guys of you are working on a SIP implementation (Linphone?). What about a touchable slider in the phone app to choose between SIP-calls and classic GSM-calls?
 Move slider to the left = GSM, move it to the right = SIP for example.
 Would that be possible? Should I open a request on Github for that?
[06:15] <amazoniantoad> You guys need to support more stuff >:O
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: porting isnt that easy
[06:37] <amazoniantoad> lotuspsychje sounds like excuses
[06:37] <bshah> suuuuuuuuuuuuure
[06:37] <amazoniantoad> I bought an ubuntu touch but it hardly worked in the US >:O (it was because of the device though - not ubuntu touch)
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: this isnt the place to let your anger...
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> the ubports community does what they can
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> and done a great job so far
[06:41] <amazoniantoad> They definitely have
[06:41] <amazoniantoad> I'm just fucking around
 Guys, did you hear that the Galaxy S III and Note II are being mainlined?
 @zoomer296, No, got any links?
 https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-siii-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-htc-hd2/
 The general point about porting to old, low specification phones, rather than highly capable newer ones is interesting
 I will contact forkbomb about this. As I own a i9300 and a 9305 ;)
 I guess we will support mainline phones (librem) at some point
 I wonder what the effort is, relative to a halium phone?
 @Flohack, Please keep us informed 🙃
 @unknown, I will. I got S3 and S3 Neo here, and I want them to be usable 😆
 @Flohack, I think many people still have one - and there are lots of S3s at eBay too
 yes this is true
[09:18] <opendata> If any of you ends up getting i9500 working with mainline on ubports ping me please :)
[09:19] <opendata> Could likely use a similar rootfs for castor
[09:20] <bshah> @Flohack: forkbomb got it working on i9300 as well IIRC : https://postmarketos.org/static/img/2017-12/mainline-i9300.jpg
 Hi friend my brother got n5x instead of n5, can i install UT on n5x and use it for daily work
 [Edit] Hi friends my brother got n5x instead of n5, can i install UT on n5x and use it for daily work
 not yet
[09:39] <opendata> Forkbomb also managed to send SMS on i9500
[09:41] <bshah> (that was not forkbomb?)
[09:41] <bshah> (also it was not mainline?)
[09:47] <opendata> bshah: 'forkbomb: well, i got the modem in i9300 to say hi' it was mainline
[09:47] <bshah> here 'hi' means.. well hello in dmesg
[09:47] <bshah> :p
[09:48] <bshah> read full log :P
 cool! My mom has an old slow S3 and I plan to give her new one in her coming birthday … would be interesting if I can sitll put it into use :)
 bug report for the telegram app: sometimes the colon is not the rightmost char, when the name is in rtl-chars @Flohack
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/DnbhfiZY.png
 @peternerlich, LOOOOL!
 This will be interesting to find 😆
 Its maybe an issue of UTF8 and/or string replacements in QML.
 probably something like that
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[11:16] <bshah> Someone please delete that message
 @Flohack ^^ spam removal pls
[11:16] <bshah> it spams IRC quite a bit
 Spam in telegram too
[11:22] <ubptgbot> sharshenov was added by: sharshenov
 Spam where?
 Probably already removed?  Check group actions.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1tYgcudj.mp4
 [Edit] Probably already removed?  Check group recent actions.
 @unknown, Hell, even I have one. I got it from a guy that was throwing it away at a yard sale. I just have to get a screen. … I was excited enough to have a phone that had ROM development, but this is something else.
 @Javacookies, Let me guess...it's running TouchWiz Jellybean, isn't it?
 Whatsapp client: Only LoquiIM ?
 @Andreaussi, Yep
 On my fairphone2 15.04 LoquiIM 0.5.24 doesn't work!
 That's the problem with proprietary software in a closed environment. You know, it's difficult to comunicate with someone that doesn't want to comunicate with you
 My personal opinion: is better to stay away from Facebook products
 If you need to rely on WhatsApp, there really isn't a good story for you on Ubuntu Touch right now
 @Flohack, I have an S3 too, what can I do to run ut on it? halium right?
 @leoaslan, If he waits a while, it will probably become possible
 @advocatux, +1. Difficult of course, when they keep buying up anything that competes with them…
 a lot of the stuff FB bought was more stuff they wanted to build into FB. instead of writing from scratch they bought other companies
 really annoyed me when they bought Gowalla
 It's a pity to see so many talented people working for Mark Dumb F*ck Zuckerberg and his evil empire
 no need to be rude
 http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks
 so be better than that
 Just using his user definition
 that doesn't make it not inappropriate :)
 He didn't even use an asterisk 😆
 saying "fuck" is not the problem. i don't care if you use an asterisk or not (but if you're going to say fuck, then at least just fucking say it). the problem is using the derogatory term "dumb fuck"
 Please take it to OT
 @mymike00, either Halium-based port (with Android kernel and hybris) or mainline-based
 I think with halium is better, right?
 @mymike00, not needing halium would be best
 sure, but as quite all phones are only android based it's better atm...
 with Halium you can probably get more hardware support right now, but mainline is more interesting for the future
 @mymike00, well, all the drivers might not be open/upstream yet, but i would still say it's better, because things are open
 @dohbee, for that specific device?
 @Flohack, I think you did Halium port for S3?
 i guess there might still be some binary firmware bits, of course, but being integrated into the upstream kernel way of things would be better
 @mymike00, for any device where not using halium is an option. but there's quite a lot of work that needs done to make it happen/reliable
[17:13] <ubptgbot> * NotKit remembers Droid 4
 but no easy 3D accel there with mainline...
 @NotKit, No S3 Neo, its a very different device. S3 classic uses kernel 3.0 and therefore there is no Halium port, sorry to say
 My S3 lies in front of me and is... dead more or less 😆
 @mymike00 then you don't get a choice, ouch
 @mymike00, No sorry, we need kernel port. Thats why I am so excited to see a 4.x mainline kernel for this maybe soon ;)
 @Stereofont, Surely i will be waiting
 So curious to feel ubuntu on my mobile, i m using ubuntu on my laptop since 10.04 as the only operating system
 @leoaslan, Desktop and phone versions of Ubuntu overlap but they are not the same thing
 There are so many groups that it would confuse if we listed them all
 We are also trying to develop Serval
 Guys you know what i wish. I wish that Ubuntu gain popularity in India. Once it's entered in Indian market and gained popularity. No one can stop it to go on top. Because India is the biggest market in the world in smartphones
 ubuntu is in india
 I hope you guys would try to make a super entery in indian market. Every smartphone company first try to develop their market in India
 we have @ubports_india channel for people in india as well
 @dohbee, It is but many people not aware about it
 Advertise is main important part
 Of market
 currently it's community-developed, not commerical project
 you are welcome to advertise it there
 Yes.
 tell all your friends
 I tell my all friends about it😊
 But you know when Ubuntu phone launched in India very few units shipped in India
 Then disappeared
 I'm planning to start my own company that's why finding a way. To startup
 It's very difficult but i will first preference to open source softwares
 [Edit] It's very difficult but i will give first preference to open source softwares
 @Devrahul, A phone which is available new in India, with a modest price and specification and which is used by a very large number of people would be a very good way to go
 Of course it should also be practical to port
 Breaking users away from WhatsApp would be a huge challenge though
 Guys whatsapp became the first priority in India 😂😂😂
 When a person purchase a new phone with unique look first question is. Does it support whatsapp
 😭😭😭😭
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Vj4cHz9l.webp
 Although telegram is smarter than whatapp
 Whatever new features telegram can provide whatsapp only can copy it
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/G3HuahWe.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ZOfTm0e3.webp
 i would guess that even with anbox support and being able to run the whatsapp app inside, many would still not be happy with it
 It totally depends upon the support. Because whatsapp support is removed from many old OSs. Which is not widely in market. Blackberry and many old Android OSs
 the only thing why i really need anbox are the car, bike, scooter sharing apps hmmpff
 @dohbee, Why not?
 @unknown, many possible reasons. it's not going to be well integrated into the system. the ubuntu security model is still there, and doesn't match 1:1 with android's. push notifications might not work. etc...
 @Flohack, could this really happen?
 maybe, mayve not ^^
 let's hope❗️
[20:20] <ubptgbot> gabprz was added by: gabprz
 Just installed Ubuntu Touch in my OnePlus One.....
 @Flohack, https://redmine.replicant.us/projects/replicant/wiki/GalaxyS3I9300
 It's got replicant, doesn't that need mainline?
[20:26] <opendata> Nope
[20:27] <opendata> Replicant uses downstream
[20:27] <opendata> Though it will use mainline for castor
 @gabprz, 🍓🍓🍓
 I'm done with Android.
[20:28] <monto_> yo
[20:28] <monto_> anyone active rn
 plenty
 If you can afford losing whatsapp (which many of us can't due to many people still using it) then it's fine
 @gabprz, Great. If you would like to read more about Ubuntu Touch you can look at … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 Thanks
 But many of us can't D:
 @forcegeckoness, I had quite a lot of success getting family to use Signal
 well, there are plenty of things other than whatsapp that are only on android/ios too
[20:31] <monto_> i dont have an sd card reader and bricked another phone but I need to use an sd card reader to fix it, was wondering if i could just pop ubuntu touch onto my S4 and use fdisk to write an img to the sd card
 @Stereofont, I know, and all my family, friends and even the faculty group use telegram
 But other people don't
 That's the problem
 But, anyway I have a Redmi note 4 Mediatek so I can't do much
 @monto_, nope. android devices are weird, so it's not just an .img file that you can write directly to the flash to install
 or maybe i misunderstood
[20:35] <monto__> my net died
[20:35] <monto__> im talking about after i'd install ubuntu touch onto my S4 if i could write a file from the filesystem onto my external storage/sd card
 oh yes, sure
 but s4 is not supported by ubuntu touch
[20:36] <monto__> RIP THE DREAM
 but yes, on an ubuntu phone, if you have an sd card/usb stick connected, you can do `sudo dd if=something.img of=/dev/sda` or whatever is appropriate
[22:15] <ubptgbot> Heiko S was added by: Heiko S
 Welcome Heiko !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.