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bp0Hello, a few years ago I reported a bug in the kubuntu installer (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1497149) and just recently a response was posted asking me to run `apport-collect 1497149`. How could I possibly do that?02:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497149 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kubuntu 15.10 (through 18.04) installer allows minimizing installation window with no visible way to restore it" [Undecided,Incomplete]02:15
krytarikbp0: Exactly like that, in the environment the bugs occurs.02:18
bp0Well, the environment is the kubuntu installer after selecting "install" instead of "try". There is nothing else but the install window, and if you minimize that, then there is nothing at all02:19
bp0There is no terminal and not even any virtual terminals02:19
bp0That is the bug02:19
krytarikThat's a good question then indeed..02:20
krytarikI'd suggest asking this on the bug report then.02:21
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LucasTwoI'm trying to install kubuntu right now and the installation bar has gone completely blank without info on my instal02:23
LucasTwoHow do I check to make sure it isn't stuck?02:24
LucasTwoIt looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/WmJiDfD.png02:25
krytarikLucasTwo: Do you notice activity on the computer?  Is it still responsive?02:28
LucasTwonever mind, it's started to have activity on the system monitor again02:29
LucasTwoit's strange how it pauses for 10-20 minutes at a time02:30
valorieLucasTwo: if you are moving a partition or so, it is a very slow process02:31
valoriebecause your data is checked and double-checked02:31
valoriebefore and after moving02:31
valoriebefore the next chunk can be done02:32
LucasTwoIt's a fresh partition02:32
valoriehmmm, installing for me is really quick02:32
valorieI do lots of testing being the release manager02:33
LucasTwoalso, can I expand my swap space post-install? I accidentally set it to 4 instead of 802:33
valorieI think so?02:33
valorieI've never messed with it02:33
krytarik!swap02:33
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:33
LucasTwoI should note that this isn't a poorly specced PC. It has a 6th gen i7 (desktop) and 16gb of ram02:34
LucasTwoso specs shouldnt be capping it02:34
LucasTwoThat tutorial says I should use gparted to fix the swap partition, yet kubuntu doesn't have that02:36
krytarikLucasTwo: Also notice that you'll have to follow the instructions for the Swap *file*02:38
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LucasTwoI was able to successfully install kubuntu 17.10, but now I'm having weird delays with apt-get05:18
LucasTwoIt takes 5-10 minutes for apt-get to post reponses after a command like "apt-get update" and I have no idea why05:19
LucasTwoIt was instantaneous on fedora and ubuntu because of my 100mbps up/down, so I have no idea what's happening here05:19
krytarikIf internet access otherwise works fine, try picking a better repository mirror.05:21
LucasTwoI'll try that in a moment05:22
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LucasTwoIt always gets stuck on "security.ubuntu.com"05:27
valorieLucasTwo: these days we usually use just `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`05:27
IrcsomeBot<Manisha Sarap> How to change the ownership of directory05:28
LucasTwoI think my apt-get might be corrupted or something, becuase I never have this issue on WSL05:28
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LucasTwoyup, my ping to security.ubuntu.com was not successful05:31
valorie!permissions | @Manisha Sarap05:42
ubottu@Manisha Sarap: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions05:42
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somenickhi, I am getting very frustrated with this. Everytime I go and try to get Kubuntu to suspend, it immediately turns back on again. I have no idea what keeps waking up the laptop.06:23
somenickit is a Lenovo W53006:24
IrcsomeBotVladimir_BlackCatVL was added by: Vladimir_BlackCatVL06:29
lordievaderGood morning07:01
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undeclaredhey all, I have an HD 5450 on 17.10, what GPU driver do I get? Documentation is quite confusing09:40
BluesKajHi folks10:31
zaapielhi10:44
personman_145heya10:44
zaapielhow do you turn off the auto logoff10:44
zaapielab9uot every 15 minutes it kicks me out of my kubuntu and takes me to a login10:45
zaapielhow do you disable that10:45
personman_145I'm digging around now to see if I can find an option for it10:45
zaapielyeah i don't see one10:48
zaapielno matter as long as the applications run in the background after it locks the screen10:48
personman_145found it. System Setting - desktop behavior - Screen locking?10:48
zaapiellet me try10:48
personman_145well I think I found it anyway10:48
zaapielty10:49
personman_145np10:50
petersaintsIs there any particular reason why KDE Applications 17.12 never got from the "Kubuntu Staging KDE Applications" (https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta?field.series_filter=artful) into the "Kubuntu Backports" from 17.10 (Artful).11:42
petersaints?11:44
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BluesKajpetersaints, a good question for the devs at #kubuntu-devel11:51
petersaints@BluesKaj I thought that #kubuntu-devel was only for 18.04 development. But I'll ask there anyway!11:59
BluesKajpetersaints, not just for dev releases ..they'llknow what happened with the backports12:04
Cruelplatypus67hi13:28
Cruelplatypus67i need some help13:28
Cruelplatypus67If i download kbuntu 18.04 beta 2, will the future software updates get me to 18.04 stable or ill still be on beta channel?13:30
acheronukCruelplatypus67: there is no beta channel. there is only one Ubuntu main archive for packages the beta is just an iso build as a QA'd snapshot of the state of development.13:37
Cruelplatypus67so13:37
Cruelplatypus67if i use it13:37
acheronukso yes, updates will come until all is frozen for release13:37
Cruelplatypus67ill be able to apt upgrade it to 18.04 stable?13:37
acheronukyes. it will keep upgrading packages until the archive is frozen for the stable release13:38
kubuntuhi13:45
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nautilus1hi16:08
nautilus1so, the lock screen16:08
nautilus1how do i get that not to display all the porn i have open?16:08
diogenes_lol16:09
nautilus1serious concern and oversignt im in the doghouse for this :)16:09
diogenes_simple solution don't store it on the pc16:12
nautilus1if its locked, it should be safe :(16:13
nautilus1but i cant find a setting to turn that off ?16:13
_sharvey_Best tech support question this week.16:17
nautilus1:)16:17
_sharvey_You have this material open in what program? Browser?16:18
nautilus1vlc16:18
user|67930hello?16:20
* _sharvey_ opens a documentary about The Clash in VLC to test with16:20
_sharvey_I don't think there is a system solution besides remembering to close VLC :D16:26
_sharvey_My question: can I bump up from 18.04b1 to 18.04b2 with "dist-upgrade"?16:26
nautilus1_sharvey_: i just need to turn off where it displays that on the lock screen16:28
nautilus1it doesnt even require the password to start playing it again !16:29
_sharvey_lol, you're in deep16:29
_sharvey_I don't see any system setting to turn off the media player on the lock screen. Feel free to file a bug report / feature request on bugs.kde.org16:34
nautilus1damn.16:34
_sharvey_You might want to leave out the nature of the video ;)16:34
_sharvey_But reporting/requesting it will get it forwarded to the people responsible for that component, and they'll determine if it can be implemented16:35
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_sharvey_So, does anyone know if it's possible to upgrade to 18.04 Beta 2 from Beta 1... without a total reinstall?17:17
acheronukjust update your system as normal. betas are just a snapshot in time or the state on the repo17:18
acheronuk*of the17:18
_sharvey_acheronuk: I have a suspicion I'm missing a repository.17:33
acheronuksudo apt install pastebinit17:39
acheronukcat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit17:39
acheronukand give us the link17:39
_sharvey_https://paste.kde.org/pwxnxdt0a/fvmpot  <- already done17:45
acheronukthat is password protected ^^^17:46
_sharvey_Not anymore. Doh.17:49
acheronukI guess I am also talking to you on twitter!17:49
_sharvey_Rik!17:50
_sharvey_Sorry for double-asking17:50
_sharvey_I still promise to say nice things about you17:51
_sharvey_I'm having a rough day, it seems17:51
acheronukright. that looks Ok I think. when did you you install the beta 1 and when did you last update packages? it may be that you are or were pretty much up to date anyway17:52
acheronukwhat does 'apt-cache policy kubuntu-settings' give?17:54
_sharvey_It says "N: Unable to locate package kubuntu-settings" (which I assume is a big part of the problem)17:58
leonardo_some body nows how to install postgresql17:58
obertisn't postgres?17:59
valorie!info postgresql17:59
ubottupostgresql (source: postgresql-common (184ubuntu1.1)): object-relational SQL database (supported version). In component main, is optional. Version 9.6+184ubuntu1.1 (artful), package size 5 kB, installed size 61 kB17:59
valorieso either in discover, muon, etc or `sudo apt install postgresql`18:00
valorieleonardo_: ^^^18:00
acheronuk_sharvey_: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?18:00
acheronuklol18:00
_sharvey_acheronuk: 'kubuntu-settings-desktop', however, gives some output18:02
acheronukoh. my bad. I gave you the source package name!18:03
_sharvey_Installed: 1:18.04ubuntu10 / Candidate: 1:18.04ubuntu1018:03
acheronuk_sharvey_: ok. that does suggest you are pretty much up to date with kubuntu stuff then. there was no huge slew of new Kubuntu packages for the beta 2. lately we have been doing just a fix here, a fix there as we go18:05
_sharvey_acheronuk: Okay, cool. I was expected a couple-hundred MB update.18:07
_sharvey_*expecting18:07
leonardo_thanks i installed postgresql sucessfully everybody18:07
acheronuk_sharvey_: nope. all the work was done in the lead up to the beta. :)18:07
acheronuknow is fixing and polishing18:08
_sharvey_Nice to see Latte included. I installed it from your secret repo several times.18:08
acheronuk:)18:09
_sharvey_And the new Kubuntu Product Manager is my official KDE mentor18:13
acheronukyes? awesome. Nate is great18:13
_sharvey_I asked him to recommend something for me to hack on today - he replied with a list18:14
acheronukI bet!18:14
VeryBewitchingI'd like to see Ubuntu use KDE as its default, anyone know of a petition or movement that's trying to lobby for this?18:14
acheronuk_sharvey_: I've been handed a few list ;)18:15
_sharvey_VeryBewitching: I think that's the purpose of Kubuntu. Regular Ubuntu will stick with GNOME, so you have your choice.18:16
VeryBewitchingI guess I'm of the mind that there should be Ubuntu and Gubuntu not Ubuntu and Kubuntu18:17
acheronukno serious 'movement'. I think @TuxDigital mentions it on http://ubuntupodcast.org/2018/03/29/s11e04-the-sign-of-the-four/18:18
acheronukas he did a video on it18:18
valorieVeryBewitching: history is against Ubuntu switching at this point18:26
valorieas long as gnome is working18:26
VeryBewitchingIt seems that way.18:27
VeryBewitchingHalf of my shop installs Ubuntu on their desktop and I find GNOME to be inflexible for them; my CIO and I use Kubuntu and tend to be more productive as we can tool the desktop (and multiple activities) for our various uses.  It'd be nice to only have to support one environment (I know that's partially a policy thing, but most developers will just default to the stock Ubuntu Desktop ISO)18:29
VeryBewitchingAt any rate, I was mostly curious if anyone was pushing for it.18:30
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pete__nvidia 384 nuked my machine.... how do i remove this driver?  or all nvidia?21:38
pete__screen flickers21:39
pete__I tried apt-get remove and21:39
pete__apt-get purge nvidia21:39
pete__but, would not work21:39
pete__as root..but, still doesn't work!21:40
valoriepete__: I think you have to blacklist it21:43
valorieand install nouveau21:43
valorie!info nouveau21:43
ubottuPackage nouveau does not exist in artful21:43
valoriehuh21:43
valorie!drivers21:43
pete__how?21:45
pete__I clicked to upgrade the nvidia driver since the stupid notification came up21:45
pete__I hate nvidia drivers and I hate how notifications are constantly coming up21:45
pete__I'm buying an amd radeon card after this.... and it makes me really angry that I have to buy a new video card!21:46
pete__i just want to remove everything nvidia and install the previous driver which was whatever was before...375, maybe?21:46
pete__then I'll wait until the new card arrives21:46
pete__I also get a message:  "failed to start NVIDIA Persistence Daemon.'21:47
pete__I hate nvidia!21:47
pete__I get that message whenever I do a normal boot.21:48
pete__I tried to boot into recovery mode but I could not remove nvidia drivers or the purge command as previously mentioned21:48
pete__even as root21:48
pete__i don't want to re-install the entire os because of this sh5521:49
valoriehmmm, well I just alt+space and type drivers21:49
valorieand use the systemsettings bit that pops to the top of the list21:49
valorieno, no21:49
pete__I got a driver list.... it shows nvidia-375 and nvidia-38421:50
valoriejust use the driver manager21:50
pete__I can't!  I cannot log in!21:50
pete__I can only boot into recovery mode21:50
pete__My X shell is not working....it just flickers forever while booting21:50
valoriehmmm, sounds like a larger problem than just a driver21:50
pete__it's the nvidia driver21:51
pete__but, for some reason, I cannot delete/remove it21:51
valoriewell, it hooks into the kernel21:51
pete__i had no problem until version 384 was installed21:51
valorieit's not like a regular package21:52
valorieyou might get more help in #ubuntu because it's a bigger channel21:52
pete__I'm on 17.04 on another partition21:52
pete__right now but I have not updated it in a long while21:52
valorieand this is not really a kubuntu-only problem21:52
pete__I can't here... I cannot figure out how to enter that channel21:52
valorie all IRC commands start with /21:53
valorieso /join #ubuntu21:53
pete__no one answers on #ubuntu21:56
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valorieI"m sorry to hear that, pete__22:13
valoriefor me, driver manager Just Works22:14
LucasTwoHow do I set my scroll speed on kubuntu?22:42
valorieif it's for a mouse, alt+space and type mouse22:43
valorieactually I think touchpad stuff is in the same part of systemsettings22:44
valorieif you are using an older kubuntu, alt+f222:44
LucasTwoIs it the "Mouse wheel scrolls by:"?22:45
LucasTwonope, still slow22:49
valoriehmmm22:49
LucasTwoat least in firefox and chromium22:51
LucasTwoalso, I fixed the issue where my apt-get was hanging22:53
LucasTwosetting my connection to prefer ipv6 did the job22:53
LucasTwo*ipv422:53
leonardo_somebody can give the superuser password of postgresql23:07
leonardo_somebody can give the username of postgresql23:13
valorieusually a new install is like return23:17
valoriebut you can google to see if there is something else.....23:17
leonardo_can you give the username of postgresql23:23
leonardo_excusme, somebody can give the username and password for the postgresql server23:52
krytarikleonardo_: Try asking in #postgresql instead.23:54

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