| lyn||orian | tsimonq2, more problems needing another respin ? | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| tsimonq2 | lyn||orian: Nope. | 00:09 |
| lyn||orian | ok | 00:09 |
| * lyn||orian tries to make sense of the tracker then | 00:11 | |
| tsimonq2 | Test 04. | 00:12 |
| tsimonq2 | That's the one that'll be released. | 00:12 |
| tsimonq2 | Not 05. | 00:12 |
| lyn||orian | oh did nio test against 04 and not realize a respin was coming? | 00:14 |
| lyn||orian | bug 1761636 | 00:40 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1761636 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed no network install 18.04 final beta" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761636 | 00:40 |
| lyn||orian | tsimonq2, ^ | 00:40 |
| tsimonq2 | I just about freaked out until I realized this is a dup of the bug they've been trying to sort out for hours. | 00:41 |
| lyn||orian | oh this is what they are talking about in #ubuntu-release | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | It's the same error. | 00:43 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Bionic Beta 2] has been marked as ready | 00:48 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Bionic Beta 2] has been marked as ready | 00:48 | |
| Kamilion | ahah, that's the notification I was looking for :3 | 01:08 |
| Kamilion | so, i've been wondering this for a while | 01:15 |
| Kamilion | I'm rather confused with the packages that are part of /pool/ on the ISO; some of them are sort of obvious, some are a little more questionable to me like rdate and mouseemu... why are they there? | 01:17 |
| Kamilion | and, more importantly, if I spin an ISO without a package pool at all; I havn't noticed anything actually break for a number of years now. | 01:18 |
| Kamilion | so in what situations do those debs get used? | 01:20 |
| Kamilion | release upgrades? networkless installs? | 01:23 |
| tsimonq2 | That. | 01:23 |
| Kamilion | both? The former? the latter? | 01:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Yes. | 01:24 |
| Kamilion | ... | 01:24 |
| tsimonq2 | ! | 01:24 |
| Kamilion | okay, so since I never release upgrade with a disc, and I don't do networkless installs; I'm safe with the scripts I already have. | 01:25 |
| Kamilion | (said scripts have been removing /pool since 12.04) | 01:25 |
| Kamilion | Hm. Wonder if it's better to remove ubuiquity, I've never supported installations, only live-boots. | 01:26 |
| Kamilion | I think maybe I'll go that route for 18.04 | 01:27 |
| Kamilion | (if one wanted an installation; it would be easier to use the official ISO, and apply my package lists from synaptic instead) | 01:28 |
| Kamilion | otherwise all my live customizations are gonna get in the way, I think. | 01:28 |
| * Kamilion wanders off to throw the daily into Customizer and see what breaks | 01:29 | |
| Kamilion | need me to poke at the autologin stuff at all? | 01:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Hm? | 01:31 |
| Kamilion | traffic in #ubuntu-release indicates some issues are occuring with autologin | 01:31 |
| tsimonq2 | ? | 01:31 |
| Kamilion | i rely on the autologin behavior having a password behind it | 01:31 |
| Kamilion | I see you're trying to work around it by clearing the password for the live user? | 01:32 |
| Kamilion | reason being, I have openssh-server installed; and authorized_keys logins only; sshd_config has password authentication disabled. | 01:32 |
| tsimonq2 | We're good. | 01:33 |
| Kamilion | it gets unhappy when accounts have blank passwords. | 01:33 |
| Kamilion | You're good; but I may not be. | 01:33 |
| tsimonq2 | Then ask in #ubuntu-release. | 01:33 |
| tsimonq2 | This isn't the right channel to talk about #ubuntu-release. | 01:33 |
| Kamilion | I have to muck around with package changes on the lubuntu ISO anyway. | 01:33 |
| Kamilion | Do you want me to go poke my nose into the autologin stuff while I'm doing what I'm doing anyway? | 01:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Your choice. | 01:34 |
| * Kamilion shrugs | 01:36 | |
| Kamilion | Alright then. | 01:37 |
| Kamilion | Just thought I'd offer. | 01:38 |
| krytarik | The password of the live user being empty is no workaround for anything fwiw, it's supposed to be like this. | 01:39 |
| Kamilion | krytarik: generally has ended up to be either 'ubuntu' or 'lubuntu' for the past loooong time. | 01:40 |
| krytarik | The user name, yes. | 01:41 |
| Kamilion | no, the password. | 01:41 |
| krytarik | ... | 01:41 |
| Kamilion | once I figured out what it was, I never bothered changing it in my ISO generation scripts. | 01:42 |
| wxl[m] | According to release, Ubuntu has had an empty password for a long time. | 01:42 |
| Kamilion | Huh. Wonder if it's something that customizer's doing then. | 01:42 |
| Kamilion | Lemme go delve into the source, since I'm stuck as the current maintainer. | 01:43 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/customizer/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=passwd&type= | 01:44 |
| Kamilion | hm, i print a warning if 999:999 exists | 01:44 |
| Kamilion | because as far as I know, casper generates the user as part of startup | 01:45 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/customizer/blob/master/src/actions/rebuild.py#L61 | 01:45 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/customizer/blob/master/src/gui.py.in#L384 | 01:47 |
| Kamilion | /etc/casper.conf has USERNAME= changed, but I don't see any password setting | 01:47 |
| shark1 | Is it normal for Xpad to open for first time Lubuntu 18.04 with an error window? | 01:49 |
| tsimonq2 | shark1: What does the error window say? | 01:49 |
| shark1 | tsimonq2: I filed a bug against Xpad Bug# 1761645 please look at and tell me if its a legimate bug. | 01:51 |
| tsimonq2 | oh | 01:52 |
| tsimonq2 | Hm. | 01:52 |
| Kamilion | wxl[m]: yeah, everything I can see in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser indicates it should be a blank password too | 01:56 |
| Kamilion | maybe I'm just going crazy -- it WAS 'ubuntu' at one point, right? | 01:57 |
| Kamilion | i'm going crazy. | 02:01 |
| Kamilion | i just pulled the casper source for 10.04, same crypt. | 02:01 |
| Kamilion | Sorry, my assertion is completely incorrect | 02:02 |
| Kamilion | and now I have no idea where I ran into the behavior where it had a password when one returns to the greeter | 02:03 |
| Kamilion | !!! | 06:10 |
| Kamilion | http://puu.sh/zXiWb/90f0066fa5.png | 06:10 |
| Kamilion | Minimal installation?! <3 <3 <3 | 06:11 |
| Kamilion | Let's see how well this Synology NAS's virtual machine setup works | 06:13 |
| Kamilion | alright, watched syslog, didn't see any errors or warnings that jumped out at me. | 06:26 |
| Kamilion | aha, i saw a qemu bios screen | 06:27 |
| Kamilion | it DID reboot correctly after I hit enter. | 06:27 |
| Kamilion | huh. I don't notice a reduction in packages at all.. | 06:37 |
| Kamilion | i guess minimal doesn't do what it says yet | 07:18 |
| acheronuk | Kamilion: what should be removed: https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/tree/desktop-gtk.minimal-remove | 12:59 |
| Kamilion | aye, they were not | 12:59 |
| acheronuk | since lubuntu is pretty minimal anyway, a big list would be overkill | 12:59 |
| Kamilion | that's pretty much the list I expected | 13:00 |
| Kamilion | does it remove the dependants those bring in too? | 13:00 |
| acheronuk | no | 13:00 |
| Kamilion | ... Oh. | 13:00 |
| Kamilion | Well... That's... mostly disappointing. | 13:00 |
| acheronuk | Kamilion: look at the ubuntu one: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu.bionic/desktop.minimal-remove | 13:01 |
| acheronuk | that has a list of unused depends/rdepends | 13:01 |
| Kamilion | I go quite a bit farther. | 13:01 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core/blob/master/buildscripts/bionic/05-purgelist.synpkg | 13:01 |
| acheronuk | which I guess lubuntu will get added to refine it | 13:02 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-core/blob/master/buildscripts/bionic/02-purgelist.synpkg | 13:02 |
| Kamilion | i don't have clean lists for the lib* packages yet. | 13:03 |
| Kamilion | that's actually what I'm working on right now. | 13:03 |
| Kamilion | and qupzilla -> falkon, which now depends on phonon4qt5 which depends on gstreamer | 13:03 |
| Kamilion | with all the additional media libraries it wants now, I might as well just sigh and go with chromium-browser instead of falkon | 13:04 |
| Kamilion | not much of a difference in disk space; althoug at least all the falkon QT dependancies are reusable | 13:04 |
| Kamilion | the iso artifact I end up with is meant to be run with TORAM=Yes anyway | 13:06 |
| Tyeth | Hey everybody, just a quick question, is there a magnet link for the 18.04 LTS beta? | 15:47 |
| Tyeth | nevermind, finally dug it out, on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/beta-2/ | 15:55 |
| lubot3 | correapabloivan was added by: correapabloivan | 18:49 |
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