[00:37] how do i tell which beta I am rnning now? [01:02] .. "running" .. [01:39] wagle: if anywhere i guess it would say in lsb_release -sd. but i think it just says "18.04 development version" or something. this probably makes more sense, too, since it gets constant updates. [01:41] tomreyn: yeah, it doesnt say much, but suppposedly beta2 was released today, and I'm curious if it upgraded [01:46] wagle: beta is just all the packages on a certain date. if the system is up to date then it's there [01:46] TJ-: oki [01:46] thanks === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:56] Hello, I'm having a little trouble testing lubuntu 18.04 beta2, i thought asking here since there's more people and the issue doesn't seem to be specific of lubuntu [02:57] basically i have two HDDs, a toshiba formated with GPT and a WB formated with MBR [02:58] and lubuntu 18.04 beta2 running from a usb stick isn't mounting the WB drive formatted with MBR [02:58] the computer motherboard is from 2009 and bios only tho [02:59] btw when i say it isn't mounting the wb drive at all i mean i can't see it anywhere, not even on gparted [03:00] CMEE_fie: From the USB stick what results ' sudo fdisk -lu ' is the hard drive seen ? [03:00] but the drive is working, i just restarted a moment ago again into my installed lubuntu 16.04 and i can see there both of my drives [03:00] Bashing-om: one sec [03:02] i see the toshiba drive on /dev/sda: 1,8 TiB, i see the usb stick on /dev/sdb: 7,5 GiB, then there's something on /dev/sdc: 3,7 GiB. not sure what that 3,7 drive is [03:02] and then three /dev/zram [03:03] no sight of my western digital 500GB [03:03] on dmesg i see "ata4: reset failed, giving up" [03:03] i've never seen that before [03:04] i also see "ata4: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)" and "ata4: COMRESET failed (errno=-16)". but i've had those messages since i bought the western digital [03:04] the western digital seem slow to turn on [03:06] kernel seem to still be trying to mount ata4 but failing. ill upload the relevant log on pastebin [03:07] http://pasteall.org/911310 [03:07] went for pasteall tho :P [03:07] CMEE_fie: reading . back soonest . [03:09] you might notice some of the message repeat again and again, they are still repeating with more recent timestamps, meaning the kernel is still* trying to mount the drive [03:11] btw, the WB drive had never taken this* long to be mounted before, usually takes 2 minutes and then is mounted before* the desktop show up [03:12] CMEE_fie: Right off hand I would say the drive is dieing/dead . What does SMART relate about the health of the drive ? Might also ask in the #hardware channel . [03:13] SMART hasn't given any warning or error so far, the firmware might be faulty tho [03:14] that's why i bought the toshiba, but i intended to keep using the Western Digital as a backup [03:14] CMEE_fie: Could be a number of things else - like sata cable, connections or the port .. Alk we know presently is that the system can not bring the drive up . [03:15] Would you say i can discard systemd and the problem is most probably the kernel if not the hardware? [03:15] CMEE_fie: No comsolation, but I have have 3 WD drives here recently with the same issues . I have replaced them . [03:17] with same issues you mean slow to turn on and messages of "COMRESET failed" or unable to be mounted at all? [03:19] CMEE_fie: " COMRESET failed (errno=-16) " I have beem able to temporatily resurrect by repaiting the file system and sparing off the super block - in my case . You are advised to get other opinions . [03:20] In other words: move everything to the toshiba ASAP :P [03:21] CMEE_fie: I sure would ! safty is no accident . [03:23] CMEE_fie: In all fairness - I had issues with 2 drives *after* installing a SSD and enabling AHCI . I have not tested those drives in other systems . [03:25] maybe testing lubuntu 17.04 is worth doing [03:25] i mean 17.10 [03:27] offtopic here, CMEE_fie [03:28] exactly, on the bright side if the issue happen there i can ask on the channels for already released versions, thanks for everything Bashing-om [03:29] CMEE_fie: :) [03:54] Multitudes of upgrades today. The Beaver is running like a charm over here. [04:01] same here [04:01] haven't restarted yet though [04:01] after the upgrades [04:13] Same here. [04:16] Installed Ubuntu Server 17.10 on an ancient machine today. No X. Samba/Dns/Gateway/dhcpd/ etc etc. Put some life back in that old box. [04:48] flocculant: "want to check if the fontconfig update......." I got the update, what do you need for verification ? [04:49] Bashing-om: I actually need to check the iso and first boot post install - thanks for offering though :) [04:49] morning flocculant [04:49] morning lotuspsychje :) [04:51] new systemd in updates im curious :p [05:00] loading to desktop still slow [05:01] lotuspsychje@R00TBOOK:~$ systemd-analyze blame [05:01] 8.966s dev-sda1.device [05:01] 8.098s NetworkManager-wait-online.service [05:01] 1.967s dev-loop2.device [05:01] 1.951s dev-loop1.device [05:01] 1.927s dev-loop0.device [05:01] 1.894s dev-loop3.device [05:01] 1.860s dev-loop4.device [05:01] seems like snaps also booting time [05:02] lets unstall a few [05:02] good plan :p [05:04] corresponding dev-x.device here is 281ms [05:04] whats that [05:05] I assume you're installed on /dev/sda1 and 8.966s - installed on /dev/sdb5 here and 281ms [05:06] ah [05:06] flocculant: no ssd? [05:06] though maybe hdd vs ssd [05:06] im on 850 pro of samsung, thats why i want it speed :p [05:06] hah - that'd do it I guess [05:07] lotuspsychje: 1.167s dev-sdb1.device [05:07] oh - I'm on some samsung ssd - I assume you weren't [05:07] nono :p [05:08] i am :p [05:08] makes it even stranger... [05:08] why 8sec [05:08] yea - but that blame thing never really seems to make much sense to me anyway lol [05:11] sysop@x1804mini:~$ systemd-analyze >> Startup finished in 4.539s (kernel) + 3.596s (userspace) = 8.135s ; graphical.target reached after 3.571s in userspace . [05:11] Startup finished in 6.680s (kernel) + 12.731s (userspace) = 19.412s [05:11] graphical.target reached after 12.684s in userspace [05:12] but your on mini Bashing-om [05:12] cheat :p [05:12] lol [05:13] did you guys install preload? [05:13] not that I'm aware of === derekcat_ is now known as derekcat [05:18] Bashing-om: well - boot to desktop on live looks a whole lot better now with that updated package \o/ [05:19] ah this looks more usefull [05:19] systemd-analyze critical-chain [05:20] flocculant: That " graphical.target reached after 3.571s in userspace" of mine irks me just a tad . Enter password and have to wait then for the DE to start . I have not looked to this time to see what is going on . [05:24] ok new reboot [05:24] well I have to wait - not long though [05:24] Bashing-om: ^^ [05:26] flocculant: Not a big deal , just a wait in 18.04 that is not present on 16.04 boot . [05:27] Bashing-om: in fact probably about a second [05:28] 21.115s plymouth-quit-wait.service [05:28] jesus [05:28] that'll help [06:11] rebooting the physical half - back in a few hours :) [06:42] hello i was here some hours ago, i was having trouble with the final beta of lubuntu 18.04, and i think it was BionicMac who mention that he started having issues when he enabled AHCI [06:43] a friend also suggested me changing the sata mode from AHCI to IDE, so i went to the bios but IDE was already the mode for SATA in the bios [06:44] so just for testing i changed the sata mode to AHCI, and for some reason the bios doesn't seem to recognize the Western Digital formated with MBR [06:44] i can boot with the WB, but i can with the toshiba [06:45] and once the lubuntu 17.10 i have on the toshiba loads i can actually use the WB drive [06:45] and BTW i dont have any drive issues on lubuntu 17.10 with either IDE or AHCI [06:46] so the issue is truly limited to lubuntu 18.04 beta2 [06:50] i haven't tried lubuntu 18.04 + ahci tho, and i can't until tomorrow, dont ask why im an idiot [07:34] maxb: did you find a solution? [07:34] if not, to wich package would you log a bug? I'm having a touchpad issue as well [08:29] hello guys. I'm facing a weird issue. suddenly my volume buttons stopped working (even Fn + arrow up/down). any ideas where to gather more info or what the problem can be? [08:57] Run xev and see if it gets the events; also try with an older kernel [09:08] alkisg: here's what I've got running xev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m6s55hK4QD/ [09:09] all the keys seems to be zeroed [09:19] weird. kernels 4.15.0-12-generic and 4.15.0-13-generic have this issue (on Xubuntu, btw).. [09:34] I'm updating the other install of Ubuntu main and I'll see if the problem persists. otherwise can be something related to xfce? [09:58] okay. this is weird. on main Ubuntu, volume buttons work with kernel 4.15.0-13-generic, but not in Xubuntu with the same kernel. thoughts? [09:59] can you reproduce this will the daily? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ [10:00] alternatively add a test user - login in there and see if you can reproduce it [10:06] it happens with all the users I've on the laptop. I just updated the OS today, in both distros [10:06] and worked previously? [10:09] yep. it keeps working in the main distro but not in Xubuntu. sometimes you press volume buttons, it does nothing and after a while the volume decrease/increase without visual output. like, after a few minutes [10:09] no [10:10] did it work previously in xubuntu? [10:10] yes, it did [10:11] and now after updates it doesn't? if that's the case check in /var/log/apt/history.log for what's been updated [10:19] flocculant: this is what i have in /var/log/apt/history.log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ffNHBYVc9P/ [10:20] and it last worked when? [10:21] ugh [10:21] so you added most of kubuntu then? [10:22] can we go back to checking it on a daily? [10:22] i can't try it now, as i have no usb/cd and no more partitions to install :x [10:23] welcome AlexMao [10:23] lotuspsychje, Thanks [10:23] Anyone running into issues with the ubiquity/installer on the latest/final beta ? [10:23] and i didnt explicitly added anything related to Kubuntu.. I've upgraded from Xubuntu 16.04.3 to 18.04 [10:24] AlexMao: whats happening exactly mate? [10:24] Exterminador: its not reccomended yet to upgrade from xenial [10:24] Exterminador: you added plasma desktop [10:25] flocculant: i guess i installled it to use with something else. but i can uninstall it [10:25] Exterminador: we reccomend if you help test daily, you install a daily live iso [10:25] mmm [10:25] Well simply put the installer crashes each time I try to install lubuntu on a spare machine. I get passed the partition process, the initial installation process begins. At some point near the end the installer crashes. [10:26] AlexMao: have you tryed another machine if you can reproduce this? [10:26] lotuspsychje: I know. but I like to live on the edge :) [10:26] I've gone through the launchpad reports and it appears to be a known issue, one post suggested updating the installer but that was a bit odd. [10:27] Exterminador: i know, but the problem is we cant properly help you, if we dont know if its real bug or a leftover from a wrong upgrade [10:27] I can try another machine certainly, but to note I've tried different copies of the ISO as well in case I botched something during download and/or DD-ing it to a usb [10:28] lotuspsychje: I've upgraded at almost one month. so, I assume isn't a leftover [10:28] flocculant: you know who to poke for lubuntu dailys? [10:28] Exterminador: so when did it stop working? [10:28] still don't know that ;) [10:28] lotuspsychje: tsimonq2 or wxl wherever he's hiding [10:29] Exterminador: again, its not yet advisable for upgrading lts to lts [10:29] flocculant: tnx [10:29] flocculant: well, I've noticed it today. can't give you a correct date, because on Stremio I use the built-in volume control [10:29] tsimonq2: lubuntu= Anyone running into issues with the ubiquity/installer on the latest/final beta ? [10:30] AlexMao: how does it actually fail? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1754174 [10:30] Launchpad bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Confirmed] [10:30] that one? [10:32] not that one. [10:32] Exterminador: well - not sure then, assumign it worked post-upgrade then I now don't know how plasma would impact [10:32] AlexMao: does the installer tell you anything at all or does it just crash? [10:32] will a sd card suffice to try those daily installs? [10:33] Exterminador: think ubuntu needs 8gig [10:33] and xubuntu about the same [10:33] cos that's what we're talking about :D [10:33] oh damn. mine is just 4Gb [10:33] oh hang on [10:33] let me set up the other machine and start the process. if/when it crashes I'll chime in here. [10:33] if you can get the iso on there it should boot [10:34] AlexMao: tnx for testing, perhaps add yourself to the bug? [10:34] Exterminador: ^^ [10:34] AlexMao: this was normal lubuntu not the Next thing? [10:35] Exterminador: so try it [10:35] this is the beta that was released yesterday/day-before-yesterday. I had similar issues with previous version of the 18.04 release as well [10:36] AlexMao: ok - well I think they've had some issues - but hard to know until we've some idea of what the error actually is [10:37] it should if it dies - start the desktop and report the bug - or I've seen that at least [10:38] AlexMao flocculant good idea choose 'try ubuntu' and let ubiquity debug from there, open a syslog:dmesg tail to see whats going on? [10:38] try lubuntu in your case [10:38] :p [10:41] I'll download the daily build and see [10:41] Exterminador: tnx [10:43] !info firefox [10:43] firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 59.0.1+build1-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 45785 kB, installed size 175087 kB [10:43] my internet is a pita. it downloads only at 1.6Mbps. so, after downloading, how do I make a bootable USB (I've found one)? [10:43] !usb | Exterminador [10:43] Exterminador: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [10:43] tks [10:44] lotuspsychje: I grabbed ff 59.0.2 from proposed this morning [10:44] Exterminador: i very like the ubuntu media usb creator [10:44] flocculant: cool! [10:44] I use gnome-disk-utility or whatever it's called [10:44] yeah thats the one [10:44] pretty fast and decent [10:46] flocculant: shows in my updates Instellen van firefox (59.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1) [10:46] installing :D [10:47] Installer crashed: We're sorry. the installer crashed. After you close this window, we will aloow you to file a bug report using the integrated bug reporting tool. This will gather information about your systemand your installation process. The details will be sent to our bug tracker and a developer will attend to the problem as soon as possible. [10:48] It occurred as the installation process was beginning. [10:48] AlexMao: yeah see if you can grab the details of the bug it creates [10:49] is it named Disks after install? or isn't compatible with Xubuntu? [10:49] well I assume that it would open ubuntu-bug - then web browser [10:49] Exterminador: yea that's it [10:50] okay, i need to let it finish download the iso [10:50] then i must see how to create the usb using that tool [10:50] select the CORRECT drive in the left pane - then from the menu use Restore Disk Image [10:51] aight.. ty [10:51] Exterminador: https://i.imgur.com/x3WXumq.png [10:53] AlexMao: did it do anything? [10:54] flocculant: lol look at this guy :p https://www.deviantart.com/art/Unity-1-739160105 [10:55] heh [10:55] does it auto format the USB? [10:55] Exterminador: yea it''ll do what's needed [10:55] all my life I've used Rufus to do the usb thingy [10:56] all my life I've never heard of it :p [10:56] lol [10:56] never created a USB from within (X)Ubuntu itself [10:57] probably done it about 200 times during this 6 month cycle :p [10:57] I really should have more than 1 [10:57] :o that's a lot [10:57] :p [10:58] * lotuspsychje has a whole box of ubuntu usb's [10:58] * flocculant really should go back to just having iso's listed in grub menu [10:59] as I mostly just want to boot them to test something [10:59] !info gnome-disk-utility | adviced by flocculant [10:59] adviced by flocculant: gnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 244 kB, installed size 1192 kB [10:59] :P [10:59] erm.. my USB is only 4Gb too. will that be enough? [11:00] Exterminador: yes that will work [11:00] Exterminador: ubuntu needs 8 gig+ install space on target [11:01] Exterminador: your not gonna install on your usb right? [11:01] even if they were - xubuntu needs about the same ;) [11:01] bbl citywalk, sunny 22 degrees [11:01] laterz flocculant [11:02] lotuspsychje: cya - cloudy here in UK [11:03] in progress.. also, installing into removable devices isn't advised, right? :p [11:04] well some people do it - I have rarely for specific reasons - but slow ... [11:08] booting into the USB (was pretty fast to create the USB). Try Xubuntu? [11:08] yea [11:09] Exterminador: then check out the volume keys [11:09] I've borked something on my main install. for sure.. it's working on the daily one [11:10] I assume I can't reinstall and keep the current data? [11:10] ok [11:10] right hang on and give me a moment to mull that over [11:12] while on that I'm going to eat something [11:14] it must have been one of those packages I've installed. I've removed plasma and no cigar (I don't remember why did I installed it :x) [11:15] Exterminador: by current data - do you mean things you have in your /home folders? [11:16] or things you've installed? [11:17] you can keep your local data but not the latter [11:17] well, most of the things I can reinstall. the important is the /home [11:18] yea you can keep that [11:19] still, I've installed xorg-server and nouveau-firmware (because that little issue with Nvidia drivers). can it be related? [11:19] doubtful [11:21] Exterminador: when you removed plasma did it remove all the things it installed? [11:21] it must have been something on the last 2 days. my son was watching YouTube videos in the middle of the week and volume was working. [11:22] flocculant: I've done "apt remove --purge plasma*" [11:23] This is a bit strange. I booted into the live environment, opened the terminal ran an apt update && apt dist-upgrade (as sudo), ran the installer and now it's installing the system. (so far). [11:24] right - hard to know if it removed everything from here :p check your paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ffNHBYVc9P/plain/ did it remove all the things in the big list from Start-Date: 2018-04-06 20:51:16 ? [11:24] Exterminador: ^^ [11:24] AlexMao: ok - good to know [11:24] I'll check it now [11:24] booting into the system [11:24] (and eating) [11:24] AlexMao: did it do a bug report? [11:25] Exterminador: everytime you say that I remember I'm hungry :( [11:25] In the previous attempt yes. [11:26] flocculant: just imagine I didn't said anything. :p [11:26] This time round no crashes after updating the live environment and running the installer [11:27] Exterminador: are you in the usb or on the installation? [11:28] flocculant: installation now. [11:29] flocculant: do you want to know? I've done again "apt remove --purge plasma*".. it uninstalled a ton of things.. and suprise!!! [11:30] volume keys works again! [11:31] hah [11:31] awesome [11:32] so, we've found the culprit :) [11:32] thanks for bearing with me ;) [11:32] Exterminador: I'll tell you a useful thing, this was my next suggestion - open the file manager and make sure you can see hidden . files and folders [11:33] I can, when using Ctrl + h [11:33] open .cache and you'll see an xfce4 folder in there (also in .config) that's where the most of the things 'you' do personally to xfce land - so removing those can prove issues [11:33] pretty much sends you back to a default setup [11:34] anyway - all that aside - you found the issue :) [11:35] next time I must remember "do not install plasma again". [11:38] Hi, I'd like to know if I install Ubuntu 18.04 beta2 will it automatic upgrade to it's final version at the end of April? [11:38] Yes [11:39] as long as you update it [11:40] Exterminador: back in the past I did similar - I then found it much better to have different installations [11:41] AlexMao: all sorted now then? [11:41] yeah. but my poor laptop is in EOL already (at least the HDD). 9y of constant rewrite [11:42] :) [11:43] * flocculant goes to finally eat something now ;) [11:43] I've started to use *Ubuntu last year. I'm loving it! [11:43] enjoy the meal! [11:43] cool - gald to hear it - better to see Xubuntu though ;) [11:44] I have both (Xubuntu and Ubuntu) along Windows 10 (for some games only) [11:44] Thanks [11:57] flocculant, all sorted now [12:00] \o/ [12:02] * tsimonq2 stretches [12:02] What's up? [12:10] nothing now - all dealt with :p [12:24] Cool. [14:06] landspite: here you can try it already on daily image in beta stage [14:06] till final release [14:11] has there been any indication when ubuntu (canonical) or lubuntu will roll out lxqt as the default DE for lubuntu ? [14:16] ...but in the case of Lubuntu Next, which is based on the very much work-in-progress LXQt desktop, those daily builds will likely be quite buggy. [14:21] I suppose the silly question is what's taking so long for the transition to occur? LXQT is rather stable under Debian 8 + 9. [14:31] Maybe with the switch to wayland, desktop environments can't find enough programmers to keep up with all the changes... [14:32] And maybe only the big ones (gnome/kde) will survive) [14:32] hey alkisg [14:32] Hey lotuspsychje, how's everything? [14:32] great, playing bionic hard here :p [14:33] I've had deployments in schools since 3 months now [14:33] Since february it's been mostly OK [14:33] neat [14:33] burning lubuntu 32 bit bionic right now [14:33] testing on customers laptop [14:34] i love normal/mini option at setup [14:34] I think mate, if one removes snapd etc, is pretty much as light as lubuntu, and a LOT more mature [14:34] I noticed on the most recent version of Lubuntu there was a minimal install option browser + basic utils. I thought that was a nice touch [14:35] Lubuntu doesn't even implement inhibitors, one can just logout and lose all unsaved work... [14:38] flocculant tsimonq2 confirming lubuntu daily iso crashes ubiquity at the end of setup with squashfs errors spam [14:39] lotuspsychje: And this is from Try Lubuntu? [14:39] tsimonq2: no, install lubuntu [14:40] lotuspsychje: known bug [14:40] About the crashing, and forgive my ignorance, but how does updating the live environment correct everything to the point where I can install the beta? [14:40] tsimonq2: got the url? [14:40] lotuspsychje: flocculant linked it a few hours ago, otherwise I can try to find it... [14:41] tsimonq2: well i gues if its known already, nvm will it work from try lubuntu? [14:41] lotuspsychje: yep [14:41] cool lets test [14:41] alkisg: What do you mean by "inhibitors"? [14:42] AlexMao: what do you mean exactly? [14:42] AlexMao: The LXQt transition is closer than one might think, I'll just say that. [14:43] this was referring to my previous issue with installing lubuntu final beta [14:43] * tsimonq2 goes AFK for a bit. [14:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1754174 [14:47] Launchpad bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Confirmed] [15:14] tsimonq2: logout inhibitors is an API for applications to tell the system NOT to allow log out because they have unsaved data [15:14] alkisg: Link? [15:14] So for example when you try to logout from gnome, libreoffice blocks that, and prompts "do you want to save first"? [15:14] tsimonq2: https://people.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html#org.gnome.SessionManager.Inhibitor [15:15] alkisg: Any Qt links? [15:15] tsimonq2: I don't know how they're called in KDE [15:16] alkisg: ok [15:16] Thank you, I'll look into it. [15:16] np [15:16] It was just an example, that lighter DEs are missing things [15:16] Yeah. [15:16] And that DEs that are more mature, of course also offer more [15:17] Another could be "automatic printer installation" [15:17] Does e.g. Ubuntu MATE have that? [15:17] Yes, since gnome2 had that, mate has it as well [15:17] OK. [15:17] mate is mature just because gnome2 was mature, not so much because of its current developers [15:18] right now i have sda1(win), sda2(win), sda3 (swap),sda4(extended),sda5(/),sda6(/home) I am going to wipe out 3,4,5,6 and install 18.04...can I not have swap partition ? [15:18] AFAIK if you have a swap partition, it sees it and doesn't create a swap fie [15:18] *file [15:18] lapaga: Why do you need it? [15:18] And, right. [15:19] I have 12g ram so have never had it use it [15:20] Ah, you want to have neither a swap partition nor a swap file; sure, you can do that, I'm not sure if the installer allows it or if you need to remove it after the installation... [15:20] It doesn't hurt though [15:20] and if no swap then would not have to make extended partition [15:23] Well the default installation gives you a swap file [15:23] So no swap partition, so no need for extended [15:24] ok-just have always made one [15:48] tsimonq2: confirmed it installed thru try lubuntu, tnx alot [16:57] lubuntu 18.04 32bit working like a charm on that box [16:58] nice wallpaper too [16:58] \o/ [16:59] tsimonq2: great work mate :p [17:00] not sure if this is an Ubuntu question or a VirtualBox question, but is there any way I can have an Ubuntu VM release memory back to the host OS? Rebooting doesn't do it; I need to shut down the VM and start it back up to get memory back when the VM isn't using it. [17:00] lotuspsychje: Thanks! [17:00] In this case, the VM is a build slave, but the host is my gaming machine, so I'd like to be able to reclaim the memory when I'm not using the VM to compile stuff [17:01] BenLubar: I don't think Virtualbox will let you do that. [17:41] moin [17:42] how can I debug "Apr 7 19:21:33 server /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[13642]: dbus-daemon[13644]: [session uid=108 pid=13644] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1' failed: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1" after a upgrade to ubuntu 18.04? [17:42] this message is produced by gdm3, thus no graphical login - but ssh is possible [17:42] mifritscher: we dont reccomend upgrading to bionic yet in this stage [17:42] mifritscher: bionic is still in beta stage atm [17:42] I know ;) [17:43] mifritscher: so best to help us, is installing daily live iso, and see if you can reproduce [17:43] I upgraded another machine yust today without problems ;-) [17:44] I assume it has something to do with the old installation [17:44] mifritscher: this is just why we dont reccomend, as we cant know if its a real bug, or a leftover from previous install [17:46] I had some problems with systemd-shim regarding a link (/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.systemd1.service and usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.systemd1 I think) [17:47] lotuspsychje: I know it was a bit dangerous and so on, I yust need to have some help to get further (debug) infos ;) [17:48] I made a apt install --reinstall systemd, but didn't help [17:48] I think something is broken here [17:48] !info systemd [17:48] systemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is important. Version 237-3ubuntu7 (bionic), package size 2876 kB, installed size 12596 kB (Only available for linux-any) [17:49] same version as mine [17:49] mifritscher: perhaps try this in a liveusb? see if you can reproduce? [17:49] systemctl --user says "Failed to connect to bus" while is working on other system (also a upgraded 18.04 installation) [17:49] lotuspsychje: another upgrade with exactly the same version is working [17:50] so something is different on this machine [17:50] big question: What? ;-) [17:51] mifritscher: you could try fix broken packages option from recoverymode [17:51] mifritscher: did your previous system have external ppa's? [17:52] yes, but removed & cleaned them (were only user mode applications, no drivers or system things) [17:52] I've no broken packages atm [17:52]