[00:02] <nmrp3> ok, I got that back by reinstalling kmix, but there's no sound
 @nmrp3, 17.10?
[04:33] <valorie> !chown
 Which logo is that? The one that shows on the menu and login screen can be set user-manager
[08:46] <oralekin> Hi, I'm new to Ubuntu and Plasma, is there a way I can remove a widget from my desktop without right-clicking it?
 In plasma 5, if you left click a widget and hold that press for a few seconds, a toolbar will appear with an X button to close and remove the widget
[08:58] <oralekin> That worked, thank you acheronuk!
 :D
[11:01] <johnthecf> hello
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:14] <wiq> Hi. Is there a way to have a custom launcher (with custom commands) in the task bar? and which on opening will not start showing two icons
[14:18] <wiq> https://imgur.com/rt0xSUt ^
[14:28] <BluesKaj> wiq, open the panel settings>add widgets, type quick in the search, choose quicklaunch
[14:28] <wiq> BluesKaj, I have tried using that. And I am able to create a custom launcher but it also leads to 2 same icons
[14:29] <wiq> https://imgur.com/rt0xSUt ^
[14:30] <BluesKaj> look in task manager settings
[14:32] <wiq> BluesKaj, nah, there is no option for that
[14:32] <wiq> there
[14:34] <BluesKaj> icons for apps in use is handy IMO especially if one assigns apps to activities
[14:35] <wiq> yeah, they are. but seeing double icons for same app is irritating
[14:37] <BluesKaj> for some I suppose , that's a personal thing
[14:38] <BluesKaj> you could just dump the taskbar if it's so irritataing
[14:39] <wiq> finally, settled with this setup https://imgur.com/Wvkzs2k
[14:39] <wiq> quicklaunchers on left and task bar on right with a spacer
[14:39] <wiq> ;)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> I have the activities pager between the icons only taskmanager and quicklaunch
[14:46] <wiq> I am never able to understand that what does activities does and how can they be useful
[14:48] <BluesKaj> it's similar to what virtual desktops used to do..separate desktops for apps or groups of apps
[14:48] <BluesKaj> at least that's how i use them
[14:49] <BluesKaj> one can have different backgrounds for each activity as well
[18:08] <Kon-> A while back I saw an Ubuntu wiki page that listed critical bugs in the 18.04 flavor betas. Anyone have a link?
[19:56] <HyP3r> What is the default display manager in Kubuntu 16.04?
[19:56] <HyP3r> I'm just wondering why I have sddm and lightdm installed
[20:12] <mparillo> SDDM. You usually get LightDM if you add Kubuntu packages to Ubuntu or you have been upgrading you Kubuntu since (say) 14.04.
[20:15] <HyP3r> mparillo: I have updated from 14.04 to 16.04
[20:16] <HyP3r> the reason why I'm asking: fingerprint-gui does not show when I want to login after a restart.
[20:16] <HyP3r> I found many forum threads about this topic but they are all talking about SDDM, and I'm using LightDM
[20:17] <HyP3r> Like this: https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/kein-kde-login-moeglich-16-04-fingerprint-gui/ (GER) here is the (ENG) http://home.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/Forum/topic.php?TopicId=546#1507
[20:18] <mparillo> That explains why you still have LightDM (which I miss for its guest session), but I am sorry I cannot help with your fingerprint-gui
[21:02] <Guest53377> anyone here to answer a kubuntu noob question?
[21:21] <diogenes_> !ask
[21:25] <bruce_almighty> If I'm running Muon in root, why am I getting an authorization error when I try to install a pkg?
[21:51] <valorie> AlexZion: have you tried (in the cli) `sudo apt install -f` ?
[21:52] <valorie> where f=fix
[21:52] <AlexZion> yeah , I already try  but let's try again
[21:53] <AlexZion> as always , nothing to fix
[21:54] <acheronuk> when you install the driver I assume you get a message about the module failing to build?
[21:58] <AlexZion> actually I don't get any error by installing from driver manager
[21:58] <AlexZion> visually I can see some problem during the installation with app icons, and pratically I cannot start anymore  apps
[21:59] <AlexZion> after restarting I get just the tty1 with no chance to get back the GUI using CTRL + ALT + F7
[22:02] <acheronuk> I was thinking more of what you would get as output when you do 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-304' in a terminal
[22:02] <acheronuk> if the module fails to build, you should see an error saying so
[22:03] <AlexZion> I tried it the first time but I don't remember the error, after that seeing that the driver was available on driver manager (with ppa graphics-driver) I always try from there
[22:07] <AlexZion> acheronuk: shoult I try to let you know !?!
[22:08] <acheronuk> hard to know how to solve something I can't test. especially at that driver package hasn't received any updates to work on on a Bionic system in quite a while now
[22:09] <AlexZion_test> here on the test machine, let's try
[22:11] <AlexZion_test> should I try the 304, the 304-dev, 304-updates or the 304-updates-dev ?
[22:12] <AlexZion_test> what the difference between them ?
[22:16] <AlexZion_test> acheronuk: here the message but is in Italian https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HGQbZvgGQ4/
[22:17] <acheronuk> the one I said. the others are transitional or development packages
[22:17] <AlexZion_test> should I switch the language to make more easy ?
[22:18] <acheronuk> that's ok
[22:29] <acheronuk> looks like that old package is uninstallable with the current Bionic graphics stack. and they have put breaks in place, so if you did have it installed on say upgrading to Bionic, it would be uninstalled
[22:29] <acheronuk> so it would need someone very familiar with these driver packages to fix
[22:31] <AlexZion_test> so after 9 years with kubuntu I will need to change distro for my old desktop !?!, or change the GPU of course :D
[22:32] <valorie> :(
[22:42] <acheronuk> at the moment the only option I can see would be use the driver from the nvidia website, patch that to fix if for kernel 4.15, and do a manual install
[22:42] <acheronuk> which the few times I have tried in the past, I have had trouble with!
[22:43] <acheronuk> and is way too long ago that I did
[22:45] <AlexZion_test> I triend just yesterday with a driver already patched and didn't works, probably because the patch wasn't for the 4.15 kernel, but just for 4.14, 4.13 and 4.12
[22:45] <acheronuk> :(
[22:46] <AlexZion> what instead about the support for Nvidia Optimus technology in Bionic ?, always with bumblebee or something is changed ?
[22:46] <valorie> it's always a problem to support a blob instead of something open
[22:47] <valorie> damn nvidia
[22:48] <AlexZion> yeah valorie I still remember the Linus Torvald "middle finger" for nvidia feww years ago :)
[22:50] <AlexZion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
[22:50] <AlexZion> :D
[22:50] <valorie> unfortunately they have not mended their ways
[22:51] <AlexZion> yeah that's why the next time I would like to avoid nvidia, but there is a good alternative ?
[22:55] <valorie> if you want to game, I guess not
[22:55] <valorie> otherwise, intel or amd I suppose
[22:57] <AlexZion> actually I don't use game but I wwould like to have good performance to work with 3D stuff, even if I need just sometimes
[22:59] <AlexZion> right now when I use the GPU on blender my laptop almost melt :D
[23:02] <valorie> right, blender, editing films, visualization, and such
[23:04] <AlexZion> anyay the problem is just with optimus technology, right?, I mean if I have a laptop with a single GPU nvidia  should work just fine I guess !?!
[23:04] <AlexZion> *anyway
[23:06] <valorie> could be
[23:06] <valorie> so hard to say since every system is different
[23:11] <leonardo_> excusme somebody can give the name of mail server for incoming mial for the balsa mail client
[23:13] <AlexZion> leonardo_:  I guess you are Italian right ?
[23:20] <AlexZion> is gone, anyway here is quite late and is time for me to take a rest, see you soon