[16:34] Hello, would anyone be able to help me figure out the right place to report this bug? Something appears to be wiping out the 'Synaptics Soft Button Areas' setting - despite the line "(**) Option "SoftButtonAreas" "50% 0 82% 0 0 0 0 0"" actually showing up in my Xorg.log [16:35] Any hints as to what might be responsible so I can target a report correctly would be appreciated. [16:37] maxb: which version of Ubuntu are you using? [16:41] bionic [16:41] Sorry, should have said, this didn't happen on bionic around March, but does now [16:42] I'm not sure quite when it was introduced though [16:43] When I inspect it with xinput list-props, or synclient, all values are set to zero [16:51] run ubuntu-bug mutter to report that issue please [22:02] robert_ancell: good morning, I filed a few more gnome-initial-setup bugs today [22:02] and GunnarHJ left a comment on bug 1761578 [22:02] bug 1761578 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Get more apps offers to install Firefox snap which is already installed" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761578 [22:20] jbicha: I think I found the underlying problem: it appears to be a somewhat dubious gsettings change. Setting org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad click-method to 'default' appears to rectify the problem [22:20] Confusingly, 'default' isn't the default, and the default appears to have been changed in a way to disable behaviour without it appearing to have a configuration UI [22:26] jbicha: Do you know anything about that extra translation domain in g-c-c I stumbled upon? [22:29] :q [22:29] oops [22:33] :wq [22:37] Argh. Somehow in fixing that problem, some mystery software component has now started to trample on the Synaptics Click Action property to disable three-fingers to middle-button [22:41] GunnarHj: it's strange https://paste.debian.net/1019344/ but there's no POTFILES.in so that sort of makes sense [22:41] see the readme at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/tree/master/panels/datetime/po-timezones [22:41] we apparently never bothered trying to translate them before in LP [22:43] it's rare for a package to have more than one gettext domain so I'm more ok with handling that in the packages debian/rules [22:44] jbicha: The timezone locations are in Swedish for me anyway, so I'm not sure there is even a need to translate it. Maybe it's simply obsolete code. [22:44] I'm sure Debian GNOME will appreciate us not needing to have a dozen extra lines of boilerplate in all our main packages at least :) [22:45] yeah.. [22:45] GunnarHj: I assume it's in Swedish *because* it's translated upstream [22:46] jbicha: But aren't the upstream translations stripped? [22:46] maybe dh_translations doesn't know about that unusual usage [22:47] you're welcome to make a patch to delete that sv.po and see what happens when you run it :) [22:49] jbicha: Which sv.po? [22:49] $ dpkg -L gnome-control-center-data | grep .mo$ [22:49] $ [22:50] the one in the directory I pointed to above [22:50] Yeah, I realized that once I had asked. But there are no .mo files shipped with the packages AFAICT. [22:51] 🤷 [22:53] jbicha: And not in the langpacks. So it's a bit confusing. [22:54] strange. Debian does have those files https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=gnome-control-center&arch=all&ver=1%3A3.28.0-1&stamp=1521423013&raw=0 [22:56] jbicha: That's not so strange. We strip them when building, they don't. [22:56] Can it be that kind of translations which are used to create translations in static files? [23:00] jbicha: Let's ask someone tomorrow. There is possibly a simple explanation. [23:01] GunnarHj: I checked on Debian and deleted that .mo. The timezones still appear translated [23:01] so I'm going with the guess that those translations are somehow built into the binary [23:02] jbicha: Me too. [23:02] if that's true, there's still a bug in that distros don't need to install those .mo files [23:03] Right. In that case, they shouldn't need to be built in the first place. [23:03] (filed bug 1762261 about one half of earlier reported touchpad issues) [23:03] bug 1762261 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Bug in Ubuntu patch for synaptics support prevents me configuring my touchpad same as previous Ubuntu releases" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762261 [23:39] maxb: oh, that sounds different than it sounded like you were talking about. Both the GNOME 3.28 and Ubuntu 18.04 release notes mention the change in touchpad right-click behavior [23:39] and recommand that you use GNOME Tweaks if you want the old behavior [23:46] OK, so part of this is on me for not thoroughly reading the release notes, but even if you assume that everyone will do so, the situation remains that previously you *could* configure the gnome desktop to get out of the way and let you set custom stuff, and now you no longer can [23:51] It looks like the Tweaks UI doesn't permit setting click-method='default'