[00:13] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: IRT alpha__ : Might remind him when he points the installer to /home DO NOT choose to format the partition .
[00:13] <TJ-> ^^^ haha yes, I was thinking that
[00:25] <daftykins> :D
[00:27] <TJ-> tomreyn: You must be on overtime by now!
[00:31] <daftykins> !cookie | tomreyn
[00:31] <ubot5`> tomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[00:32] <TJ-> oh, he left for 45 minutes!
[00:36] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^ long 'nuff to hit the rain locker and grab a Snickers bar ( or 2 ) :P
[00:36] <TJ-> Or escape the country :D
[00:37] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Sometimes that do feel like the better course :)
[00:37] <TJ-> :p
[00:38] <TJ-> yeah... for me it's a certain someone trying to git bisect the kernel for a battery-drains-whilst-shutdown
[00:38] <daftykins> hmm i don't know pfsense enough to know what rule i might require to add a tertiary interface bidirectional comms with the LAN
[00:39] <daftykins> plugged the second interface on the Huawei HG612 VDSL2 transceiver into the third NIC on our AMD APU router :)
[00:43] <Bashing-om> TJ-: "battery-drains-whilst-shutdown" and I only thought I had problems :D
[01:01] <daftykins> silly me, should've realised the transceiver would have no idea about the LAN subnet - i needed a NAT rule
[01:06] <tomreyn> so how do i git insect the kernel!!?? tell me!!
[01:06] <tomreyn> but apparently there are really people who run into this issue?
[01:06] <daftykins> uh oh, Brundeltux xD
[01:06] <daftykins> (Brundelfly, movie reference to "The Fly" with Jeff Goldblum)
[01:07] <tomreyn> thanks, this hint was necessary.
[01:07] <tomreyn> i never watched it in english
[01:08] <daftykins> ah har
[01:22] <hggdh> tomreyn: remember insect == bug
[01:26] <tomreyn> :)
[01:39] <Bashing-om> "  what would a good name for the user be?" TJ- does hand holding while babby stepping in progres :)
[01:40] <hggdh> Bashing-om: good name... struwwelpeter
[01:40] <TJ-> Bashing-om: sometimes, when I think I've plumbed the depths of dumbness, I'm surprised once again :)
[01:40] <TJ-> Bashing-om: the 'good name' I was thinking isn't printable in this channel!
[01:40] <Bashing-om> LOL .. only you can do it !
[01:41] <hggdh> TJ-: that's why I proposed struwwelpeter
[01:42] <TJ-> If you hear laughing it isn't me honest
[01:42] <hggdh> heh
[01:42] <TJ-> And NOW it turns out the target is Mac not Linux at all!!!!
[01:42]  * TJ- becomes an active shooter!
[01:42] <survey0r> lol
[01:43] <Bashing-om> It's laughter in the face of crying :)
[01:43] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I've got audiobook on... BBC's sublime I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue compendium
[01:45] <hggdh> at least the wtruwwelpeter stories (Der Struwwelpeter Gesicht) should be adjusted for computers. The Germans, at least did not dance around, went straight for the kill
[01:47] <hggdh> the thing goes like this: he was sucking his thumb, and his mother said "don't suck your thumb, the taylor will come and cut your thumb out."
[01:47] <hggdh> He kept sucking his thumb, and the taylor came and cut both his thumbs off.
[01:47] <hggdh> Done. Lesson imparted.
[01:47] <TJ-> I suppose that saves on buying two thimbles
[01:47] <hggdh> Or, rather, excised.
[01:49] <hggdh> I had the vinyl from Stern, and my kids used to listen to it pretty much every day
[01:49] <TJ-> what's wrong with sucking thumbs anyhow? they taste good
[01:50] <TJ-> Admittedly it's not a good idea to do it whilst dealing with Ubuntu bugs since you tend to bite down!
[01:50] <hggdh> there you go
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Who is to say that the theory of relativity was not developed while the thumb was engaged ?
[01:56] <TJ-> We certainly seem to encounter disturbances in the space-time continuum in #ubuntu
[01:57] <Bashing-om> yeah, a fact ..it is the gravity of the situation .
[01:58] <TJ-> :)
[06:19] <EriC^> morning all
[06:21] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> hey guys morning
[06:49] <EriC^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:50] <ducasse> hi EriC^ - all well?
[06:52] <EriC^> hey ducasse yeah thanks, yourself?
[06:53] <ducasse> i'm well, thanks - just waking up here
[06:54] <EriC^> cool
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> EriC^ ducasse lol https://www.deviantart.com/art/Unity-1-739160105
[08:35] <EriC^> what the heck is that
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> he installed unity on bionic
[08:36] <EriC^> oh
[08:36] <EriC^> nice
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop bionic
[08:44] <ubot5`> ubuntu-unity-desktop (source: ubuntu-unity-meta): The Ubuntu Unity desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 8 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el)
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> !info leaksanitizer
[08:47] <ubot5`> Package leaksanitizer does not exist in artful
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> !info slock
[10:10] <ubot5`> Package slock does not exist in artful
[10:25] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: slock is part of the suckless-tools package
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> ah
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> never messed with it
[10:45] <petro> is it okay to install / upgrade to the nvidia driver from 384 to 390.48?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> petro: when added the graphics ppa, you can switch between drivers
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> petro: additional drivers section, or ubuntu-drivers list
[10:47] <petro> lotuspsychje, I noticed that but....
[10:47] <petro> lotuspsychje, I'm afraid of the system being messed up....check this page quickly....hold on
[10:47] <petro> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1006253/installing-latest-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu-17-10
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> petro: when your system results in black screen, you can always !nomodeset or sudo apt purge nvidia* to go back to nouveau
[10:48] <petro> lotuspsychje, read this part:  "Ubuntu 17.10 Installs Wayland with the option for XServer using Gnom...."
[10:49] <petro> lotuspsychje, this is all that is needed?:  " sudo apt purge nvidia"
[10:49] <petro> lotuspsychje, I'm asking because I had the experience of that user above
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> petro: its possible this occurs yes
[10:50] <petro> lotuspsychje, I upgraded 384.111 to 384.130
[10:52] <petro> lotuspsychje, so, if I had that black screen, I only have to run 'sudo apt purge nvidia' to go back to nouveau and...
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> yes
[10:52] <petro> lotuspsychje, I can then install 390.48 from Additional Drivers to use proprietary driver, 390.48, right?
[10:53] <petro> lotuspsychje, right now, I disabled using wayland using that user's example.... I made a note of doing that so I don't forget
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> petro: you dont upgrade drivers, you switch between them
[10:53] <petro> lotuspsychje, just in case I decide to upgrade to 390.48.... I thought I should use the updated stable driver?
[10:53] <petro> lotuspsychje, oh...right
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> petro: if i was you, i would first test 390 without wayland tweak
[10:54] <petro> lotuspsychje, okay
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> petro: see if that works by default
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> petro: if not, you can switch to other drivers
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <daftykins> o/
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj daftykins
[12:48] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[12:48] <daftykins> greetings \o/
[12:48] <BluesKaj> daftykins,
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> cuppa coffee for you guys?
[12:48] <daftykins> just done a trial run of my clients washing machine and dryer here, so was able to change into clean clothes and now it's time to consider who will get my money for lunch today :D
[12:49] <daftykins> ooh that'd be lovely thanks :> could you whip me up a sandwich as well? ;)
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: wow from ict to laundry devices, great improve :p
[12:49]  * BluesKaj has a coffee on the go
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> take away latte is the best
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: sure thing, you digest meat in the morning? :p
[12:50] <BluesKaj> latte isn't coffee it's coffe flavoured milk :-)
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:50] <daftykins> i've recently been mixing it up with a 'flat white' which i find quite nice
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> ok i admit...coffee without loads of milk and sugar i cant stand
[12:51] <daftykins> :O
[12:51] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, good coffee passes the no sudar or milk test IMO
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> those italian coffees taste good, but with sugar
[12:52] <BluesKaj> no sugar even
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> im a sweets guy
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> bbl shopping