| ball | I just introduced my two year old to Chorlton and the Wheelies. | 01:16 |
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| penguin42 | was that wise? | 01:17 |
| ball | I think it was necessary. | 01:17 |
| * penguin42 used to live near that Chorlton when he was that age | 01:18 | |
| ball | :-) | 01:18 |
| ball | brb | 01:19 |
| ali1234 | medlock or hardy? | 01:38 |
| ball | Fred Wedlock | 01:39 |
| daftykins | ah these B&W speakers sound absolutely phenomenal at quiet volume levels | 01:41 |
| ball | I should buy some bookshelf speakers. | 01:46 |
| daftykins | hey ball, it's been a while - all well? | 01:46 |
| ball | daftykins: Not bad thanks. Got my daughter's PC re-imaged with Xubuntu. | 01:47 |
| ball | daftykins: How are you? | 01:49 |
| daftykins | nice :D yeah pretty good thanks, been spending the last few days in London doing cabling work and setting up the IT + audio/video in my clients new apartment | 01:51 |
| ball | Was IT there mostly Ethernet? | 01:59 |
| daftykins | i had a hand in the spec so i made sure to put 5 x LAN in the lounge behind the TV, one on the little office desk - another behind the master bedroom TV and a couple more in there behind the bluray player | 02:00 |
| ball | Any WiFi? | 02:00 |
| daftykins | yep got a Power over Ethernet wifi AP in the kitchen here mounted up in the ceiling of a cupboard | 02:00 |
| ball | I have to buy a new DVD player because my two-year-old tortured the old one to death. | 02:01 |
| daftykins | doh! get the LG BP250 - it's a bluray as well but upscales standard DVDs, so if you have any HD TVs they'll look better - it's also super cheap (was under £50 to us) | 02:01 |
| daftykins | also a really neat little small unit | 02:01 |
| ball | I don't really want BlueRay | 02:02 |
| ball | ...the players are a nuissance because of the software upgrades etc. | 02:03 |
| daftykins | that's calmed down a lot now, i've not had to update one in years | 02:03 |
| daftykins | i think the focus for that hassle has switched to the 4K UHD players now :) | 02:03 |
| ball | OK good. I'm also being told to buy a television but I'm struggling to find one (at Best Buy, sadly) that's not a "smart TV" | 02:04 |
| daftykins | mmm, the same chip that enables good image processing is always capable of the fancy smart features so they put it in - it's easy enough to just not connect it to your network if you don't want to use it though | 02:05 |
| ali1234 | yeah, some kind of SoC with integrated GPU | 02:06 |
| ball | daftykins: It would still have all the nuissance built in. | 02:07 |
| ali1234 | they really don't. normally you have to reboot them into smart mode | 02:07 |
| ali1234 | same with blu-ray players actually | 02:07 |
| ali1234 | they dual boot to separate the (horribly insecure) smart features from the secure content playback | 02:08 |
| daftykins | mmm i've seen it all combined on a 'home' screen now as it happens | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | maybe they use virtualization now... dunno | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | been a while since i even used a TV :) | 02:09 |
| ali1234 | if you really really don't want a smart TV you could always buy a PC monitor | 02:09 |
| daftykins | here's the WAP, just don't tell him i didn't exactly centre it... https://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/index.php/s/Y8YDf5Rxq8BBBQd | 02:09 |
| ali1234 | and get a separate tuner box for it | 02:09 |
| daftykins | :S | 02:09 |
| daftykins | and an HDMI switch to get more than one input :D | 02:09 |
| daftykins | suddenly you have yourself a modular TV xD | 02:10 |
| ali1234 | nah you can get monitors with loads of inputs | 02:10 |
| daftykins | multiple HDMI in one would be odd though | 02:10 |
| ali1234 | but if you don't want any "smarts" then i don't see why you'd need more than two inputs at most | 02:10 |
| ball | In the family room we had a 19" CRT and a DVD recorder with an ATSC recorder in it. | 02:10 |
| ali1234 | my monitor has two DVI and one HDMI | 02:10 |
| ball | s/recorder/tuner/ | 02:10 |
| daftykins | yeah but for AV uses i was thinking, ali | 02:11 |
| ali1234 | true - no audio through DVI | 02:11 |
| daftykins | so if all HDMI you'd be in a bind over conversion cables and then lack of - yep :D | 02:11 |
| ali1234 | i'm sure they exist tho | 02:11 |
| daftykins | maybe | 02:11 |
| ali1234 | my monitor is really old. HDMI wwasn't popular | 02:11 |
| daftykins | i'm still rocking my Dells from 2008 - two DVI, HDMI, displayport v1.1, VGA, composite and component in on one display | 02:12 |
| ali1234 | yeah i think we have the same one | 02:12 |
| ball | ...that TV has since been recycled. | 02:12 |
| daftykins | ah har :D | 02:12 |
| ball | ...and the TV that replaced it has its own ATSC tuner. | 02:12 |
| daftykins | ball: glad to hear ;) | 02:12 |
| ali1234 | someone here recommended it to me | 02:13 |
| ali1234 | possibly you :) | 02:13 |
| ball | I'd have to put an aerial up the tower though to receive anything. | 02:13 |
| daftykins | hehe | 02:13 |
| daftykins | i got the first and then loved it so much i sold my old 2407 and got a second to match | 02:13 |
| ball | The WiFi you put in, was that 5 GHz? | 02:13 |
| ali1234 | i have two ancient 17" 4:3 LCDs either side | 02:13 |
| daftykins | dual band, 600Mb -n and 2:2 stream 866Mb -ac | 02:14 |
| ball | I like 4:3 | 02:14 |
| ali1234 | one is my old monitor, picked up a second recently for £10 | 02:14 |
| ball | daftykins: I'm tempted to turn 2.4 GHz off. | 02:14 |
| ali1234 | they are from like 2002 | 02:14 |
| daftykins | ball: but yeah when i visited here before the refurb i saw how busy the 2.4GHz was so told him it was going to be a total no on 2.4 :) | 02:14 |
| ball | ...I'll need a new mobile phone first though | 02:14 |
| daftykins | yeah i'm tempted to turn it off too, not 100% sure if every one of their devices does 5GHz though | 02:14 |
| ball | I've seen some really sucky 2.4 GHz WiFi networks lately. | 02:15 |
| daftykins | poor performance? | 02:15 |
| ali1234 | tis dell has a bug with display port. if you power off the monitor it tells the computer you disconnected it, so it removes that screen and moves all your windows somewhere else | 02:15 |
| * ball nods | 02:15 | |
| ball | Measured 1 Mbit/sec across one of them. | 02:15 |
| ali1234 | so i don't use DP and instead have a bunch of converter cables | 02:16 |
| daftykins | hrmm was that not down to your distance from them or property construction? | 02:16 |
| ali1234 | and that WAP, aren't you worried about interference from that washer/dryer? | 02:16 |
| daftykins | ali1234: oh yeah mine do that, but i don't think that's a bug - i think that's hotplug - when i used a DVI on each with my older graphics card it didn't know one went off and so didn't care | 02:16 |
| ball | daftykins: No, it was just congestion. | 02:17 |
| ball | Their 5 GHz LAN was much better. | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | yeah it's a "feature" of the spec, but it's totally dumb | 02:17 |
| daftykins | ali1234: he (my client) has a bit of doing things without certain considerations - but this is more of a home from home for him so i don't see there being much laundry getting done :) | 02:17 |
| ball | ...but their sucky equipment was on a sucky 2.4GHz AP | 02:17 |
| daftykins | ah i see | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | newer models have a setting to disable the "feature" because nobody wants it | 02:17 |
| daftykins | oh that'd be nice, i was starting to think that i would have to source cables without the hotplug pin or something | 02:18 |
| ali1234 | not possible on DP - i looked into it | 02:18 |
| ball | I like 5 GHz. You get much more elbow room. | 02:18 |
| daftykins | ah that's a shame | 02:18 |
| ali1234 | you have to get eg a DP to HDMI converter which blocks the signal | 02:18 |
| daftykins | a friend recently got an nvidia g-sync monitor using DP - and began seeing the same behaviour | 02:18 |
| ali1234 | which is what i've done | 02:19 |
| daftykins | active box or just a cable? | 02:19 |
| ali1234 | it's technically active but the circuit is so small you could not tell. does not need external power | 02:20 |
| daftykins | ah neat | 02:20 |
| ali1234 | just look slike a regular cable | 02:20 |
| daftykins | the builders hadn't put in much cabling here so i had to pop to a nearby Richer Sounds and spend about £150 on cables xD pesky directional HDMIs | 02:20 |
| daftykins | just leant about amazon prime now so i've got a couple of 4K blurays coming in the morning :D | 02:21 |
| ball | I didn't know Blueray could do 4k | 02:21 |
| ball | ...not that I'll be buying a 4k TV | 02:21 |
| daftykins | you need a whole new player | 02:21 |
| daftykins | and cables xD | 02:22 |
| daftykins | honestly the 4K resolution is arguably no great benefit, but the HDR tech is the real deal | 02:22 |
| ball | DVD and a 720p would suit me fine ;-) | 02:22 |
| daftykins | yeah if they did 1080p discs with HDR that'd be fine to me - you just can't appreciate 4K res on say, the 55" LG OLED TV we chose for here - at the distances you want to sit for such a size | 02:23 |
| ball | I physically don't have room for a 55" set anyway. | 02:25 |
| daftykins | OLEDs are truly amazing TVs :) | 02:25 |
| ball | 35" would be about perfect but I'll probably end up with a 40" | 02:25 |
| ball | OLED sounds expensive. | 02:25 |
| daftykins | none of that ugly backlight bleed from LCD - blacks really are black | 02:25 |
| daftykins | yeah it is a bit of a premium, i got my 55" in the black friday sales for £1,150 | 02:25 |
| daftykins | my friend in Houston got hers for $1,400 inc tax in the sales | 02:26 |
| ball | That's too much to pay for a television when I have children in the house. | 02:27 |
| daftykins | mmm could be risky | 02:27 |
| * ball nods | 02:28 | |
| ball | ...anyway, the gift card I'm using for the new television has about US$ 280 on it. | 02:29 |
| daftykins | probably one plus of wall mounting, but my clients 4 year old loves to put his handprints all over these TVs | 02:29 |
| ball | I should check whether my daughter's Kindle can do 5 GHz WiFi | 02:30 |
| ball | Perhaps I should look at a wall bracket. | 02:33 |
| daftykins | the ubiquiti i bought for here came with all that and a PoE injector, so like you saw in the pic it only has a network cable at this end - very nice | 02:35 |
| daftykins | in the front cupboard i have the injector plugged in to send power over that port on the patch panel | 02:35 |
| ball | We used a PoE switch at the non-profit I work for. | 02:40 |
| ball | At home the wireless router covers the whole house. | 02:40 |
| ball | (don't ask about WiFi at my other job ;-) | 02:46 |
| daftykins | :D | 03:23 |
| daftykins | yeah they tend to be a lot more expensive for home use, no other device was planned to be PoE too | 03:24 |
| * ball nods | 03:35 | |
| ball | I like that there are switches that have a few PoE and mostly ordinary ports. | 03:35 |
| daftykins | *nod* little price compromise | 03:39 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 11:04 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 11:06 |
| daftykins | o/ | 11:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | plans for today... a nice walk in nice weather | 11:13 |
| brobostigon | :) | 11:15 |
| daftykins | it's looking all gloomy here in nodnoL | 11:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | lots of museums you could putter about... | 11:27 |
| daftykins | yeah, i've just been sent my orders though so there's more to do | 11:52 |
| daftykins | due to surprise extending my trip, i've just had to test-run the washing machine and dryer, too :D | 11:52 |
| penguin42 | this is the bit where you have to work out how to drive them | 11:54 |
| penguin42 | I once spent about 30mins in one hotel room trying to figure out how to drive the microwave | 11:54 |
| daftykins | xD | 11:54 |
| daftykins | i was afraid that they were switched off at the isolation switches on the wall due to not being plumbed in yet, but didn't want to text the builder guy on a Sunday | 11:55 |
| daftykins | i saw grey hoses at the back though and thought meh, worst case scenario is i flood the place and trash a pricey carpet... :D | 11:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | the only question really is... did you install linux on the washer/dryer/microwave.... :-) | 12:51 |
| daftykins | ah that reminds me, my friend in Japan sent me an amusing image | 12:52 |
| daftykins | one mo... | 12:52 |
| daftykins | https://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/index.php/s/SRzz38kXoyFdrdj | 12:55 |
| penguin42 | containerisation at it's finest! | 12:56 |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: you're more than welcome to pinch that for twitter use :) | 12:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | swipe... post... :-) https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/982968204548100096 | 13:07 |
| daftykins | :D | 13:09 |
| * zmoylan-pi won't be happy till they a line of pyrex so it can work in my oven too... :-) | 13:14 | |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: let me know how many posts you get asking if you're holidaying in Japan :D | 13:15 |
| DJones_ | Afternoon all | 14:49 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi: you holidaying in Japan? ;-p | 16:30 |
| daftykins | hrmm a client of mine has a few domains with 123-reg, she asked me to add another email forwarder today, but on logging in i discover that in fact the domain had been moved to 'expired domains' DNS, yet she's been paying just fine | 17:00 |
| daftykins | anyone else seen similar? | 17:00 |
| daftykins | heh wow major issues at their end, at first he was claiming ICANN verification failed | 17:14 |
| penguin42 | oh that's going to be fun to fix | 17:31 |
| daftykins | wow this is a colossal example of a perfect storm | 17:33 |
| daftykins | i like the way i bypassed security entirely when on the phone | 18:06 |
| daftykins | maybe best not to do business with 123-reg... | 18:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | diddledan: one does not holiday in japan... one sends a drone these days to fit right in... :-P | 18:26 |
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