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[01:52] <valorie> have read, and am thinking
[01:52] <tsimonq2> OK.
[04:33] <tsimonq2> valorie: Will you respond tonight?
[04:33] <valorie> maaaaaybe?
[04:34] <tsimonq2> OK :)
[04:34] <valorie> I know you are impatient, now that you've sent your email
[04:34] <tsimonq2> hahahahahahahaha
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Well, three flavors have already replied. :P
[04:34] <valorie> and it was well-reasoned and well-argued
[04:34] <valorie> yes
[04:34] <tsimonq2> Are you +1 on the idea?
[04:34] <tsimonq2> And, thanks!
[04:34] <valorie> leaning that way, yes
[04:35] <tsimonq2> Kool.
[04:35] <valorie> but I would like to know what the "big boys" have to say
[04:35] <valorie> I realize that this is a flavors thing
[04:35] <tsimonq2> oh boy
[04:35] <valorie> but the release team is in charge
[04:35] <valorie> ya know?
[04:35] <tsimonq2> The conversation with Adam and Steve is what *sparked* this email.
[04:35] <tsimonq2> So I'm pretty sure they're +1.
[04:35] <valorie> I realize that
[04:36] <tsimonq2> And yes, I get that.
[04:36] <tsimonq2> But flavors also have to be in agreement. ;)
[04:36] <valorie> imo it is basically changing the name and removing the freezes
[04:36] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[04:36] <valorie> and as long as we get testing, I'm fine with that
[04:37] <valorie> the freezes are sort of a pain
[04:37] <tsimonq2> Especially because they don't have *any* benefit.
[04:37] <valorie> we'll have to up our game on writing test cases
[04:37] <valorie> agreed
[04:38] <tsimonq2> That's the point, really. It's to kick butt on making CI and testing better, *constantly* and *together* - not just when we're called to for a release.
[04:43] <valorie> it is a necessity with such small teams
[04:43] <tsimonq2> Exactly.
[04:44] <valorie> I doubt many of our users realize how few
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Exactly.
[04:44] <valorie> it helps that we have much better quality all over the system now
[04:45] <valorie> and MUCH better software
[04:45] <valorie> and I suppose hardware
[04:45] <tsimonq2> True.
[04:45] <valorie> kde has kicked it up a notch with their CI
[04:46] <valorie> thanks be to saint Scarlett
[04:46] <tsimonq2> Oh, she's done that too?
[04:46] <tsimonq2> Nice!
[04:46] <tsimonq2> I see her active in Debian lately as well. :)
[04:46] <valorie> she was the one who created it in the first place
[04:46] <tsimonq2> Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice,
[04:47] <valorie> bcooksley and TheOneRing and kfunk do it now
[04:47] <valorie> agreed
[04:47] <valorie> of course Harald was the original genius
[04:47] <tsimonq2> sitter is one madman
[04:47] <tsimonq2> But ya gotta love him.
[04:47] <tsimonq2> :D
[04:47] <valorie> indeed
[04:47] <valorie> oh, I do
[04:47] <valorie> endlessly
[04:48] <valorie> even on LP
[04:48] <valorie> lol
[04:48] <tsimonq2> hahaha
[04:48] <valorie> he was the boy wonder of Amarok
[04:48] <valorie> and so it has continued
[04:49] <tsimonq2> hahahaha
[21:17] <tsimonq2> valorie: "I was waiting for buy-in from the Release team" you read #ubuntu-release, right? :P
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, thanks!
[21:30] <valorie> official buyin
[21:31] <valorie> on the list
[21:31] <valorie> yes, I read it religiously
[21:31] <valorie> right now the sun is shining and I can't stay inside any longer!
[21:31] <tsimonq2> hehe