[00:06] <Fjallefar> 10 years since the last time i joined this channel.. Damn
[00:08] <Guest877> can i use media classic player on linux mint
[00:11] <pet> hi
[00:12] <pet> anyone here ...?
[00:15] <akem> pet Yes. Just ask your question.
[00:15] <pet> ok
[00:15] <pet> vsftpd+selfsigned ssl cert
[00:15] <pet> on ubuntu
[00:15] <iMin3Ra1n|Sober> hey, after updating from 16.04 to 17.10, i cannot login. i keep getting sent back to the login screen. i am able to access tty or whatever onn crtl alt f2
[00:15] <iMin3Ra1n|Sober> help?
[00:16] <pet> vsftpd fails to start with systemctl
[00:16] <pet> but works with sudo vsftpd
[00:16] <pet> vsftpd NOT ask me for a PEM pass phrase
[00:17] <m0rd3cai> thats not good
[00:17] <pet> when  i try to start it with systemd
[00:18] <m0rd3cai> anywhere the password was entered into the config?
[00:18] <iMin3Ra1n|Sober> :(
[00:19] <pet> mordecai, that its for me?
[00:19] <m0rd3cai> ive never setup vsftpd. is there a place in the config where you enter the password for the pem file?
[00:20] <pet> yes  i set the pass when i gen the cert, but when in try to start vsftpd systemd not ask me for pass and fails to start
[00:20] <m0rd3cai> ok i see
[00:21] <akem> iMin3Ra1n|Sober, you may have a wrong keymap at login? did you try with different users? otherwise i would try to add a new user from tty to see...
[00:21] <m0rd3cai> i would check the log file and see exactly why it fails. not sure where exactly the log is. may try /var/log/messages
[00:22] <m0rd3cai> see if theres any info there. otherwise i would google log file location
[00:22] <pet> no log
[00:23] <pet> all google examples for generate certs with openssl for vsftpd  are with -nodes option that avoid pass cert.
[00:23] <pet> with -nodes option it works fine
[00:24] <pet> i dont know if its a vsftpd or systemd issue
[00:29] <rud0lf> when i edit iptables, where does the config go?
[00:30] <rud0lf> i know it's temporary, but is there a file that stores it for a session?
[00:30] <rud0lf> or is it kept in memeory?
[00:42] <leftyfb> rud0lf: I stick it in /etc/network/iptables and called it with a post-up for the lo interface
[00:42] <rud0lf> thanks
[00:49] <R13ose> Hi
[00:52] <survey0r> o/
[01:00] <Checkmate> Hello how to add more size to /dev/root
[01:00] <Checkmate> How can i increase dev/root size, becuase it is %99 full?
[01:01] <wyseguy> Checkmate virtual machine?
[01:01] <Checkmate> no
[01:01] <azizLIGHT> akik: Bashing-om: i posted my reply to https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1030325/linux/nvidia-driver-installation-nvidia-version-magic-4-4-0-116-generic-smp-mod_unload-modversions-should-be-4-4-0-116-generic-smp-mod_unload-modversions-retpoline-/post/5250173/#5250173
[01:03] <wyseguy> Checkmate just make a new partition then use something like rsync and move the files over then use your old partition as a boot partition
[01:04] <wyseguy> dont forget to update the boot loader
[01:04] <leftyfb> Checkmate: what is /dev/root ?
[01:04] <Checkmate> i wanted to add space to /
[01:04] <Bashing-om> Checkmate: /boot full ? show in a pastenin ' df -h ' . Rather than increase - remove ?
[01:05] <leftyfb> Checkmate: How big is / ?
[01:06] <Checkmate> pastebin.com/raw/CP0TbtnY
[01:06] <Checkmate> leftyfb I have 20G but i want to add more
[01:07] <leftyfb> Checkmate: boot a live cd, use gparted to resize /home and give space to root
[01:08] <Checkmate> leftyfb its not possible by command?
[01:08] <leftyfb> it is possible, but it's MUCH easier to just use gparted
[01:08] <leftyfb> Checkmate: also, you're not doing this while the OS is running
[01:09] <Checkmate> the command lvextend -L +60G /dev/root give me error
[01:11] <leftyfb> Checkmate: You can't just say "give me error". That doesn't help anyone help you. Also, since both your /home and /boot are their own partitions and not LVM volumes, where do you expect to gain this 60G of space from?
[01:20] <texla> How to determine which partitions are primary using gparted
[01:21] <Checkmate> leftyfb how to fix that miss
[01:21] <leftyfb> Checkmate: you haven't answered the queston
[01:21] <leftyfb> question*
[01:22] <Checkmate> which one
[01:23] <leftyfb> Checkmate: the last one I asked you
[01:23] <Checkmate> i will add space to root from the 2TB i have
[01:23] <leftyfb> Checkmate: Is there unpartitioned space on your drive?
[01:23] <Checkmate> yes /home/
[01:23] <leftyfb> That is not unpartitioned space
[01:24] <leftyfb>  /home is a partition and has a filesystem on it
[01:24] <leftyfb> Checkmate: You'll need to boot a live cd
[01:24] <leftyfb> Checkmate: to resize /home
[01:24] <leftyfb> and leave the empty space for LVM to utilize
[01:26] <leftyfb> Checkmate: from what you pasted, you are only using 10% of / anyway
[01:26] <leftyfb> Checkmate: 17G is plenty for a root filesystem
[01:27] <Checkmate> can i do that with resize2fs ?
[01:27] <leftyfb> Checkmate: why do you need to? You have 17G of free space on your / filesystem
[01:28] <Checkmate> yes but i want to add more
[01:28] <leftyfb> why?
[01:28] <Checkmate> the /home/ is empty i want adjuste more on root
[01:29] <leftyfb> it doesn't need it
[01:31] <texla>  How to determine which partitions are primary using gparted
[02:25] <azizLIGHT> hmmm. im trying to install nvidia-384 from graphics-drivers ppa on ubuntu 14.04 using 'sudo apt install nvidia-384' and its been stuck at 37% saying 'update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-144-generic' for a while now.... whats the deal
[02:26] <rud0lf> it takes a while to generate it
[02:26] <rud0lf> don't worry
[02:27] <azizLIGHT> not this long though, i tried nvidia-390 and it was done faster than this
[02:27] <rud0lf> oh
[02:27] <azizLIGHT> but i need nvidia-384
[02:28] <azizLIGHT> isnt there a way for me to check if its actually doing anything
[02:32] <azizLIGHT> welp, im looking in /boot/ and i see a initrd.img-3.13.0-144-generic.new and its 0 bytes since 20 minutes ago
[02:32] <azizLIGHT> great
[02:34] <chadc> hi
[02:35] <chadc> whats the linux driver needed for most pcs now that sint supported and do distros like mint and what not have it?
[02:35] <TheNH813> Anyone around?
[02:35] <TheNH813> I need to set a higher pulseaudio buffer size.
[02:44] <azizLIGHT> guess what i solved my problem
[02:44] <azizLIGHT> with a very absurd solution
[02:45] <dewwii> azizLIGHT: turned it off and on again?
[02:45] <azizLIGHT> rud0lf: apparently if you have disk operations going on, update-initramfs gets stuck. something like a dd operation
[02:45] <azizLIGHT> dewwii: hi :O
[02:45] <dewwii> hi
[02:46] <azizLIGHT> fancy seeing you here. and yes i did turn it off/on again and it didnt work
[02:46] <azizLIGHT> heh
[02:46] <azizLIGHT> more info on this stupid bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1667512/comments/7
[02:47] <dewwii> hmm
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> last guy comments that this bug still exists on 18.04 alpha
[02:48] <azizLIGHT> wow!
[02:55] <mors> Hi all, could some one help me with an error? I'm using a new thinkpad E480 with Linux Mint 18.3 The hardware is not fully supported yet, so I try to install a new Kernel 4.16, but I'm getting an ERROR:
[02:55] <mors> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.16.0-041600-generic is not supported
[02:55] <mors> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.16.0-041600-generic (x86_64)
[02:55] <mors> Consult /var/lib/dkms/ndiswrapper/1.60/build/make.log for more information.
[02:56] <mors>   init_timer(&wrap_timer->timer);
[03:32] <hades-110> ?
[03:33] <hades-110> anyone here?
[03:33] <wyseguy> sup
[03:36] <hades-110> .
[03:38] <hades1> ou im here
[03:38] <hades-110> hi hades-110
[03:40] <wyseguy> yall brothers?
[03:44] <ShriHari> hello
[03:44] <Irritiable|LT> Hello, ShriHari.
[03:45] <hades1> oh~~
[03:46] <luxio> Is it possible to get a notification or something when I get pinged on HexChat like I did on Windows
[03:46] <luxio> on Windows the icon blinked
[03:47] <wyseguy> luxio dunno, i use textual
[03:48] <hades1> hah... just for test
[03:51] <wyseguy> anyone know how to make ubuntu 18.04 look like 10.04 with the old desktop?
[03:51] <michael2> does anyone know how to get the gnome version on 16.04?
[03:53] <hades-110> mark
[03:54] <Bashing-om> wyseguy: Check out (x)ubuntu .Or the xfce4 DE .
[03:54] <electricguitar> oh yeah
[03:55] <electricguitar> xubuntu has a program that edits the visual desktop display so that you can customize it to look like the old gnome
[03:57] <wyseguy> electricguitar oh nice, installing now
[03:57] <wyseguy> you remember the name of the tool?
[03:57] <electricguitar> i kinda forgot
[03:57] <wyseguy> np
[03:57] <electricguitar> just explore
[03:58] <wyseguy> will do
[03:58] <electricguitar> linux is built for those who explore
[04:31] <hawat> I can mount the filesystem from rescue mode, but that's about it.  If I can boot to rescue mode, how do I even start to troubleshoot and fix a boot which hangs?  Re-install grub?
[04:31] <eraserpencil> I'm on a custom kernel of ubuntu, Facinf problems with squashfs from a snap install. How do i know if the kernel has a squashfs module or how could I fix the issue?
[04:37] <sysRPL> hello
[04:37] <sysRPL> hi, does anyone here use cinnamon? it has a built in screen recorder, but for the life of me i cannot find any information anywhere about this built in recorder supporting audio
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> sysRPL: welcome, how can we help you?
[04:38] <sysRPL> does anyone know if it does? because everything i record with it is video only. and i see no settings anywhere
[04:38] <eraserpencil> I'm on a custom kernel of ubuntu, Facinf problems with squashfs from a snap install. How do i know if the kernel has a squashfs module or how could I fix the issue?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> eraserpencil: we dont support custom kernels here
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | eraserpencil instead
[04:39] <eraserpencil> it's erm Nvidia's LInux4Tegra v28.2
[04:42] <hades1> what 's up
[05:30] <arunjith> koi
[05:30] <arunjith> hai
[05:31] <arunjith> anyone
[05:40] <s10gopal> how to fix it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MJQRM28W3z/ ?
[05:46] <s10gopal> anyone online ?
[05:46] <dcypher> no
[05:46] <dcypher> maybe just me
[05:47] <s10gopal> dcypher, you know how to fix bug ?
[05:47] <dcypher> maybe
[05:47] <dcypher> step on it
[05:47] <s10gopal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646 , first bad commit is found
[05:48] <s10gopal> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MJQRM28W3z/
[05:49] <dcypher> sorry, to involved for me.... maybe someone else here can help you
[05:50] <s10gopal> dcypher, thx
[05:52] <dcypher> now.. give me a app or malware to reverse and no problem :)
[05:54] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/be5c20f81cc403da5502656da447b704.png - Decided to run it in a virtual machine so I can learn about the OS without screwing anything up lol
[05:57] <dcypher> if you take a snapshot...
[06:28] <s10gopal> dcypher, can you please tell how to patch a kernel ?
[06:28] <s10gopal> dcypher, i am using ubuntu 14.04
[06:37] <fub> Hi. Im using ubuntu 17.04 with i3wm. My laptop is sometimes connected over a docking station, which is connected to an hdmi monitor. Now when I want to play sound over this, I can use pavucontrol to set "Analog Output" to "HDMI" output
[06:37] <fub> This then needs a 3-5seconds until the audio is hearable (why is there a delay?).
[06:37] <ducasse> !zesty | fub
[06:37] <ducasse> !eol
[06:38] <fub> Now, when I stopped music for a few seconds/minutes, I cant hear it over hdmi anymore. I need to use pavucontrol again, then set to analog, then again to hdmi, to hear it again
[06:38] <fub> λ ~ $ cat /etc/issue
[06:38] <fub> Ubuntu 17.10 \n \l
[06:38] <fub> sorry, Im using 17.10
[06:46] <mrx> hi
[06:47] <mrx> i have problem with openvpn
[06:49] <mrx> when i connect to openvpn server it connect and in my browser show that my ip is changed but when i want open blocked sites in my country like youtube it doesn't connect
[06:50] <mrx> can anyone help me
[06:50] <mrx> salam
[06:51] <cfhowlett> mrx, openvpn support >>> https://forums.openvpn.net/
[07:20] <shree> hi
[07:20] <shree> can anyone help me with booting speed problem...?
[07:22] <shree> i have booting problem...?
[07:23] <jink> We all do, on Monday morning. -__-
[07:23] <j0k3r> can i ask what pulseaudio in our system does?
[07:24] <EriC^^> it's vital to the sound system
[07:24] <EriC^^> :D
[07:24] <j0k3r> does ubuntu default uses sql??
[07:24] <EriC^^> no, you have to install it
[07:25] <j0k3r> sorry im new to linux
[07:26] <j0k3r> seem like theres alot of hidden file in my os that i just found out
[07:27] <j0k3r> was thinking if my security had been compromise
[07:29] <EriC^^> such as what j0k3r
[07:32] <j0k3r> there were many network manager which are hidden files
[07:32] <j0k3r> until i click show hidden
[07:32] <Chuck_> Hi everyone, I am new and just get started with IRC.
[07:32] <j0k3r> it pops out
[07:32] <shree> is there anybody available to solve my problem...?
[07:33] <EriC^^> shree: you got to ask and see
[07:33] <Chuck_> Hi everyone, I am new and just getting started with IRC.
[07:33] <shree> i have very slow boot how to reduce that time...?
[07:33] <j0k3r> [main]
[07:33] <j0k3r> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile,ofono
[07:33] <j0k3r> dns=dnsmasq
[07:33] <j0k3r> [ifupdown]
[07:33] <j0k3r> managed=false
[07:33] <EriC^^> shree: which ubuntu version?
[07:34] <shree> 18.04
[07:34] <EriC^^> shree: join #ubuntu+1
[07:34] <cfhowlett> shree, still in beta so not supported here
[07:35] <shree> ok
[07:37] <j0k3r> # network-manager - network connection manager
[07:37] <j0k3r> #
[07:37] <j0k3r> # The Network Manager daemon manages the system's network connections,
[07:37] <j0k3r> # automatically switching between the best available.
[07:37] <j0k3r> description	"network connection manager"
[07:37] <j0k3r> start on (local-filesystems
[07:37] <EriC^^> !paste | j0k3r
[07:38] <j0k3r> opps
[07:40] <j0k3r> like if i connect to connection 1
[07:40] <j0k3r> the system would change to connection 2
[07:41] <j0k3r> and connection 1 would be redundant
[07:42] <tester> how can i have some service run on start
[07:43] <tester> and not have to service name start it every time i reboot
[08:01] <SlidingHorn> anyone willing to work on a new ubuntustudio Bionic install? (the +1 & studio rooms are asleep - only reason I'm asking here)
[08:02] <SlidingHorn> stuck in a login loop
[08:02] <cfhowlett> still in beta, so it belongs in #ubuntu+1 SlidingHorn
[08:02] <SlidingHorn> cfhowlett I figured...just thought I'd ask
[08:02] <cfhowlett> no worries
[08:18] <Exterminador> stupid question: is "dd" able to create a bootable windows usb? :x
[08:18] <cfhowlett> yep
[08:20] <snikker> hello, i'm compiling kernel usung "make deb-pkg" there is a way to use custom "changelog" and "control" files instead of auto generated?
[08:26] <Exterminador> there's one thing I cannot understand properly. I've used dd to create a Manjaro usb stick. but when I didn't used "sync" the usb wasn't able to boot properly. is the "sync" part so important?
[08:28] <Exterminador> 1st time I've use "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb status=progress"
[08:31] <Exterminador> and when I tried to boot it complained about something like "/dev/loop3". I'm just trying to understand why it didn't work like this but worked when I used "&& sync".
[08:31] <cfhowlett> so apparently you should use && sync.
[08:34] <Exterminador> seems so. but I can't actually find a basis to understand why. xD
[09:07] <EriC^^> Exterminador: it might have been mounted
[09:07] <EriC^^> Exterminador: i doubt that you can make a 'bootable windows usb' though, what iso is this?
[09:10] <Exterminador> EriC^^: it will be Windows 7 or 10 and the distro I'm using is Xubuntu
[09:15] <UsQUE> I think the problem would be when you use UEFI bootable device :) with old fashion booting MBR/BIOS should be fine I think?
[09:21] <EriC^^> Exterminador: the windows iso isn't literally bootable
[09:22] <EriC^^> Exterminador: with windows 10 you could make a fat32 partition and copy the contents there if you're going to use uefi, other than that there's
[09:22] <EriC^^> !winusb | Exterminador
[09:23] <Exterminador> thanks. I'll take a look at t
[09:23] <Exterminador> it*
[09:24] <UsQUE> EriC^^, are you sure that's going to work with secure boot? ;-)
[09:25] <UsQUE> I know I even had issues in the early days with secure boot when building bootable disks on windows
[09:26] <EriC^^> UsQUE: the fat32 method works yeah
[09:27] <EriC^^> there's nothing sketchy about it at all
[09:28] <UsQUE> ok cool :D maybe next time I use ubuntu to do it then :) but that was at the start of the secure boot and uefi .. it was even sony laptop, there not made anymore
[09:28] <UsQUE> is it now days possible to boot up linux os with secure boot enabled?
[09:29] <EriC^^> UsQUE: yeah ubuntu's efi file is signed
[09:30] <UsQUE> ok nice :D
[09:32] <zerorax> is there a tool to check ram stability?
[09:37] <gogaga> hi
[09:38] <gogaga> lolo
[09:59] <Persona> Hi
[09:59] <anonymip> hi
[10:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:01] <Persona> I want to know how can I see contents of bootable Ubuntu HDD on ubuntu
[10:01] <tomeaton17> I am updating my vps. I got this message when upgrading "A new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified." I did not modify this myself, so I assume the VPS company has. Is it safe for me to upgrade this file?
[10:01] <Persona> Like all partitions
[10:01] <Persona> Root, swap, etc.
[10:10] <Persona> Helli
[10:10] <Persona> H koi
[10:38] <superqun> nice
[10:39] <superqun> super
[10:40] <Skaface82> you should be ok to update it... a vps should just look like any standard computer to linux
[10:40] <Skaface82> unless im mistaken
[10:41] <Skaface82> cause it will then point to the most recent kernel that youve installed
[10:41] <Skaface82> rather than an older one which will probably be deleted making your vps un-bootable
[10:48] <R13ose> I want to solve my issue but unsure what to do.
[10:49] <remix2000[m]> Hi! If I install 18.04 beta2 right now, will I be able to update it to official release later?
[10:50] <slidinghorn> !final | remix2000[m]
[10:50] <slidinghorn> :) so yes
[10:50] <remix2000[m]> slidinghorn: thank you :)
[10:51] <Baapu> Hello buddies
[10:52] <Baapu> How do I read contents of live xfs drive on ubuntu
[10:52] <Baapu> ?
[10:54] <adrian_1908> Baapu: what do you mean by "live"? Can't you just browse the drive from the file manager?
[10:55] <ducasse> Baapu: you should be able to just mount and read it like any other fs
[10:57] <Guest51166> why my ubuntu system restart automatically when i shut it down and some usb device is connected to it
[10:57] <s10gopal> ducasse, even after applying patch -R , i am still getting battery drain , i need to do git bisect again?
[11:01] <guiverc> Guest51166, i don't know, but I'd guess it was a wake-on-* type setting in bios/config of your hardware
[11:06] <Guest51166> ok i would check it. one more issue i am facing is my crontab is not working properly. the script are not getting executed as they should be . if i run scripts directly they work fine
[11:08] <guiverc> Guest51166, if you run jobs directly yourself; they'll have your environment variables; so your cron job doesn't assume these does it (ie. paths defined etc)?
[11:10] <guiverc> also did you check for permissions (is it running as you? or root? or other?)
[11:11] <Guest51166> how can i fix it
[11:11] <Guest51166> what paths need to be defined
[11:11] <Guest51166> no i am not running them as root
[11:11] <brainwash> can you share the script?
[11:11] <TechChristoph> hi
[11:12] <guiverc> Guest51166, i don't know your script, but I'd likely define all paths (ie. assume nothing)
[11:13] <Guest51166> brainwash: are u talking to me? the scripts are just for battery warning and hard drive temprature warning
[11:13] <Guest51166> both of them are placed in my home directory
[11:14] <brainwash> right. to actually help you we would need to see the content of those scripts
[11:14] <Guest51166> :q
[11:15] <brainwash> a common method to test things is to redirect error output to a file
[11:15] <TechChristoph> so please paste them somewhere
[11:15] <TechChristoph> that WE van
[11:15] <TechChristoph> can help
[11:16] <Guest51166> https://pastebin.com/WcsKjrbS
[11:16] <TechChristoph> otherwise its impossible
[11:16] <Guest51166> https://pastebin.com/LpjbN04P
[11:17] <Guest51166> thats all
[11:17] <TechChristoph> so why you ned Sound?
[11:18] <brainwash> I'd think that notify-send won't work because DISPLAY isn't set
[11:19] <brainwash> does playing the sound work?
[11:20] <Guest51166> brainwash: if i run them directly then both notification and sound work perfectly. otherwise none work
[11:21] <ducasse> Guest51166: notify-send needs access to your x session to work
[11:22] <brainwash> notify-send "blabla" 2>/tmp/error.log
[11:22] <Guest51166> ducasse: and what about the sound
[11:23] <Guest51166> brainwash: should i replace the line in my script
[11:24] <brainwash> if you want to debug your issue, yes
[11:24] <ducasse> Guest51166: i don't know how paplay works, but guessing it might need to run within your session to talk to your pulseaudio daemon
[11:25] <Guest51166> brainwash:yeah , sure. did it
[11:27] <brainwash> with the same method you can check if the paplay command gives any error
[11:27] <brainwash> also, you could test with aplay instead
[11:27] <s10gopal> first bad commit is found but even after doing patch -R , the problem is not solved , it is required to do git bisect again ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[11:28] <brainwash> s10gopal: shouldn't you ask in #ubuntu-kernel?
[11:28] <s10gopal> brainwash, no one is online there
[11:29] <brainwash> then wait a bit
[11:29] <s10gopal> TJ-, can you please tell
[11:29] <R13ose> How do I fix a key that is pressed down whenever I enter a place I can enter text?
[11:29] <guiverc> ducasse, Guest51166 i suspect paplay will work (i've used it as I recall; and it works on a non-gui term now)
[11:30] <hitman1> yo people wassup ?
[11:32] <brainwash> s10gopal: jsalisbury is in #ubuntu-kernel, so best to wait for him to return
[11:33] <R13ose> hitman1: what is up?
[11:35] <hitman1> R13ose: up is a movie.
[11:35] <shree> can anyone help me with systemd
[11:35] <R13ose> shree: ask away
[11:36] <s10gopal> brainwash, hp has provided bios update , should i install it ?
[11:36] <Guest51166> brainwash: can you please look here and tell me how to fix this script. i am having error of "permission denied on line 6". here is the script https://pastebin.com/LpjbN04P
[11:36] <hitman1> shree: try #systemd too.
[11:37] <brainwash> s10gopal: I don't know. does HP provide a changelog for the update?
[11:38] <JimBuntu> !ask | shree
[11:38] <s10gopal> brainwash, log Provides improved security.
[11:39] <Aliekezhi> i, any known problem of firefox not detecting changes of network interfaces, when using network-manager ?
[11:39] <brainwash> s10gopal: then you probably want to install it
[11:39] <shree> in systemd-analyze userspace taking too much time...about 22sec
[11:39] <JimBuntu> Aliekezhi, I don't think Firefox actually detects anything.... seems to be outside the bounds of what a browser should do
[11:40] <Aliekezhi> JimBuntu, it's weird, because other application still get the internet, only firefox requires to be restarted to work again (refresh of pages don't work too)
[11:40] <brainwash> Guest51166: no idea how that error message is related to the script
[11:41] <JimBuntu> Aliekezhi, That is odd.
[11:41] <brainwash> shree: did you check "systemd-analyze blame"?
[11:42] <shree> in systemd-analyze blame ==> 14.521s systemd-journal-flush.service
[11:43] <JimBuntu> shree, for comparison - https://pastebin.com/YBA7Cdnp
[11:43] <Aliekezhi> JimBuntu, oh maybe, it could come from a firefox option like disable DNS prefetch or something...
[11:45] <Baapu> Hi I asked how do I read contents of a bootable Ubuntu drive ?
[11:46] <R13ose> Baapu: can you rephrase that?
[11:46] <Baapu> I see some encrypted like contents not regular partitions
[11:46] <brainwash> shree: check "journalctl -u systemd-journal-flush"
[11:47] <shree> how to can i do that...i am noob in ubuntu
[11:47] <Baapu> Like /, swap, /home, etc.
[11:47] <TitaniumCoder477> @Baapu are you able to boot the computer with a physical or virtual ISO of Ultimate Boot CD? Then you would have a GUI to explore the file system on the computer's hard drive.
[11:48] <brainwash> shree: you run that command in a terminal window
[11:48] <brainwash> shree: it will display log output for the systemd-journal-flush service
[11:49] <shree> it giving me a long list of reboot log..
[11:49] <MJCD> Hey just a easy question I hope; If I remove a package and that removes metapackages like "ubuntu-desktop" also being removed
[11:50] <MJCD> that's fine right?
[11:50] <Baapu> I am logged in from one disk and I want to mount another one that is live and containing data in partitions /, /home , etc.
[11:50] <MJCD> like its no big deal it just doesnt match that metapackage anymore so its removed
[11:50] <MJCD> If im correct?
[11:51] <R13ose> MJCD: which package do you want to remove?
[11:51] <Baapu> Is it possible?
[11:51] <brainwash> shree: mmh. how much space does "journalctl --vacuum-time=3d" clean up?
[11:51] <MJCD> R13ose, its for a detachable vm
[11:51] <MJCD> so im trying to trim a lot out
[11:51] <MJCD> like alsa
[11:51] <TJ-> MJCD: correct
[11:51] <MJCD> it doesn't need sound
[11:51] <MJCD> TJ-, sweet, thanks
[11:52] <Baapu> The other disk is of another system that I want to read in mine
[11:52] <brainwash> shree: it could be that you have a large system log file which may potentially slow down boot time
[11:52] <MJCD> easy to fix if it does break anyway, just apt-get that metapackage
[11:52] <R13ose> MJCD: right
[11:53] <TJ-> MJCD: another useful 'trick' when installing is to use --no-install-recommends - that can significantly reduce how many packages are installed
[11:53] <Baapu> Any package or something for that ?
[11:53] <MJCD> TJ-, ah interesting - I did this from the ubuntu mate mini.iso
[11:53] <MJCD> using its installer
[11:53] <MJCD> what the hell man
[11:53] <MJCD> like alsa-utils
[11:53] <pragomer> using 17.10: How can I switch to next/prev workspace using keyboard? In keyboard settings I can only set a shortcut for "switch to workspace no 1,2,34" but not to next or previous
[11:54] <MJCD> makes me remove apturl
[11:54] <MJCD> which im guessing I dont want to do
[11:54] <s10gopal> when i close my laptop lid, monitor connected via hdmi also get off , in power settings i have selected do not do anything when lid close
[11:54] <MJCD> so now I have to keep sound crap around
[11:54] <TJ-> MJCD: --install-recommends is usually the apt default, and it doesn't just install the Recommends: of the package you install, but all packages it depends on, right down the chain. I did a test with Lubuntu and I think the difference was something like 3GB vs 750MB
[11:55] <MJCD> TJ-, interesting, im wondering wouldnt it be the same as selecting nothing in the installer?
[11:55] <MJCD> same effect?
[11:56] <Baapu> Ya disk is explorable from booting
[11:56] <TJ-> MJCD: If you don't mind hacking the system, /var/lib/dpkg/info contains the Debian 'control' content for every package plus it's status (installed, etc.), and there you can manually edit the "Depends:" of a package to remove packages that would otherwise break. E.g. remove "apturl" from the Depends: for Package: alsa-utils  :D
[11:57] <TJ-> MJCD: installer will still be defaulting to --install-recommends :)
[11:57] <MJCD> TJ-, that sounds like way too much work
[11:57] <Baapu> @TitaniumCoder477
[11:57] <TJ-> MJCD: sometimes the machine has to learn who's really the master!
[11:57] <MJCD> I guess I dont strictly need apturl
[11:57] <MJCD> lol
[11:59] <JimBuntu> In mother Russia, machine masters YOU
[12:00] <hpardis> How can I tell what version of libsdl2 I have installed? I'm using 17.10
[12:00] <TJ-> MJCD: I don't see apturl as a dependency of alsa-utils
[12:00] <TitaniumCoder477> @Baapu My understanding of the use case is that you want to access/explorer another disk. So either you have to mount it under your live OS, or you have to boot into a live OS (such as UBCD) and access it from there. What is your desired objective? I.e. are you trying to copy recover/copy the data or just permanently mount the drive or what?
[12:00] <MJCD> TJ-, no idea I marked it anyway it might be because im doing complete removal
[12:00] <shree> @brainwash it has journalctl --vaccum==> Vacuuming done, freed 0B of archived journals from /var/log/journal/5bfb80b39f9048ec876
[12:00] <MJCD> hasn't caused any other issues
[12:00] <MJCD> down to the b's now in synaptic
[12:01] <MJCD> oh that reminds me
[12:01] <MJCD> my mouses scroll wheel is all messed up in ubuntu mate
[12:01] <MJCD> but cant find a setting for how it should behave
[12:02] <MJCD> its currently unworkably unresponsive lol
[12:02] <TJ-> !info libsdl2 artful | hpardis you can use "apt-cache policy <package>" or "apt list <package>"
[12:02] <brainwash> shree: doesn't look like there was anything to clean up (probably due to no persistent log file being present)
[12:03] <TJ-> !info libsdl2-2.0-0 artful | hpardis
[12:03] <shree> how do i clean up that..?
[12:03] <ioria> shree, how big is it ?   du -sh /var/log/journal/
[12:03] <brainwash> shree: is the issue reproducible? I mean does this particular service slow down every boot?
[12:04] <hpardis> thanks everyone
[12:04] <hpardis> er TJ- rather
[12:05] <shree> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qjqr9ymS9W/
[12:06] <s10gopal> how to update bios , hp only provide exe file , i have created a hp bios repair usb but it dont boot
[12:07] <shree> system-analyze ==> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D6qtYnFdD6/
[12:07] <MJCD> wowzer removing cups-filters breaks a lot of stuff apparently loool
[12:09] <jeffrey> hi
[12:12] <R13ose> Hi jeffrey
[12:13] <jeffrey> hi r13ose
[12:13] <R13ose> Jeffrey: what's up?
[12:14] <jeffrey> not much
[12:14] <jeffrey> do use ubuntu
[12:15] <jeffrey> ydo you use ubuntu
[12:16] <dfch> thats a good question in #ubuntu channel ;)
[12:16] <dfch> i liked 20:14 < jeffrey> do use ubuntu
[12:16] <jeffrey> yes
[12:16] <jeffrey> i do
[12:23] <mooncakehexchat> hi guys was wondering is it possible to surf the internet from terminal Ubuntu | no gui-if so can i have a great link to teach me what i need to learn
[12:24] <lapaga> lynx
[12:24] <dfch> mooncakehexchat: links or lynx
[12:24] <dfch> mooncakehexchat: irssi for irc
[12:24] <mooncakehexchat> link
[12:24] <TJ-> mooncakehexchat: 'w3m' is often installed by default too
[12:25] <TJ-> !info w3m | mooncakehexchat
[12:25] <mooncakehexchat> not sure what to google
[12:25] <dfch> mooncakehexchat: sudo apt install links
[12:25] <TJ-> !info links | mooncakehexchat
[12:25] <confluency> mooncakehexchat: have you tried googling terminal web browser lynx?
[12:25] <confluency> mooncakehexchat: (or one of the other names.)
[12:25] <Soul_Sample> there is also elinks
 no why not filter out irrelivent results from the answers thats why i asked here
[12:27] <mooncakehexchat> thanks all
[12:27] <confluency> mooncakehexchat: if you search for terminal web browsers, every result on the first page is relevant.
[12:27] <mooncakehexchat> thanks
[12:28] <dfch> mooncakehexchat: just install couple of those and compare them by yourself
[12:28] <confluency> We can't tell you which one you will like the most.
[12:28] <dfch> it's like someone would recommend chrome, some firefox, when other go crazy about opera
[12:28] <mooncakehexchat> just wanted some suggestions and i have that now
[12:29] <mooncakehexchat> time to have a play
[12:29] <MJCD> lool wtf why does ubuntu mate come with freaking ipod drivers
[12:29] <mooncakehexchat> for your android
[12:30] <confluency> Ubuntu comes with lots of drivers.
[12:30] <MJCD> who's out there still using ipods
[12:31] <MJCD> that also use extremely light versions of linux
[12:31] <confluency> How are these two things related?
[12:31] <MJCD> because if they use an ipod they likely have a mac
[12:31] <Soul_Sample> they're not
[12:31] <confluency> That's your assumption, which may well be incorrect.
[12:32] <confluency> I mean, in that case, why put iPod drivers in Linux at all?
[12:32] <MJCD> right, thats the entire point
[12:32] <confluency> They're there so that there's a good chance various devices will work out of the box.
[12:32] <Guest43181> why my ubuntu restart when i shut it down and usb is connected
[12:32] <MJCD> for 0.0043% market share
[12:32] <MJCD> who MUST sync an ipod on a low end pc
[12:32] <confluency> I'm not sure why you're arguing that Linux should support *less* hardware.
[12:32] <TJ-> MJCD: 0.0043% market share is what Linux desktop is about!
[12:32] <Soul_Sample> yes, let's argue market share importance in a linux chat room
[12:33] <confluency> We'd better all stop using Linux on the desktop immediately.
[12:33] <MJCD> lol
[12:33] <MJCD> ubuntu mate is meant for low end machines
[12:33] <MJCD> as is xubuntu
[12:33] <TJ-> personally I use it in the greenhouse, the shed, and the tractor :p
[12:33] <confluency> So?
[12:34] <Soul_Sample> ipod drivers don't slow down your machine
[12:34] <confluency> I don't understand why you assume that choice of desktop environment is in any way correlated with choice of phone / music player device.
[12:34] <MJCD> ofcourse it is... for apple users
[12:34] <hggdh> folks, let's get back on-topic, please
[12:35] <Soul_Sample> and desktop environment also has nothing to do with driver seelction
[12:35] <MJCD> Soul_Sample, if 98% of all people dont need it
[12:35] <MJCD> then they dont need it
[12:36] <hggdh> MJCD: enough. Please go to -offtopic or -discuss to keep on this
[12:36] <MJCD> if someone uses linux - especially a low end distro
[12:36] <MJCD> then they can install a driver for their ipod before using it
[12:36] <MJCD> no big deal
[12:36] <hggdh> ...
[12:36] <Soul_Sample> you are free to recompile your kernel without drivers you don't need. ubuntu and its derivatives have always been about accessibility and working out of the box for most people. that includes ipods and iphones. no reason to argue it, especially here.
[12:37] <MJCD> these drivers arent in the kernel
[12:38] <MJCD> im just working down the list of installed packages is all haha
[12:38] <MJCD> to make this a lean mean fighting machine
[12:39] <hggdh> MJCD: please stop now
[12:39] <MJCD> lol sure, until the next weird inclusion I find
[12:39] <MJCD> ^_^
[12:40] <hggdh> MJCD: not here. This is a support channel, not a a free discussion one
[12:40] <Soul_Sample> there are rooms for it, this is support
[12:40] <MJCD> not free discussion?
[12:40] <MJCD> like as in I have to pay for it?
[12:40] <MJCD> Ok
[12:40] <MJCD> here's my credit card info
[13:00] <dragosp> Hi, I am trying to run conjure-up and at step 2 I cannot select anything. Any idea why ?
[13:15]  * JimBuntu wishes ##linux had the bot from here, or one like it.
[13:18] <wangjb> any body there?
[13:18] <leftyfb> wangjb: only 1613 people
[13:18] <leftyfb> !ask | wangjb
[13:18] <JimBuntu> I am not here
[13:19] <wangjb> I can
[13:19] <wangjb> I can't open FireFox after upgrade Ubuntu mate
[13:19] <wangjb> apt-get update
[13:19] <wangjb> then i typed upgrade
[13:21] <wangjb> |ubottu |leftyfb,sorry I'm fresh
[13:21] <JimBuntu> wangjb, FWIW, ubottu is a bot
[13:21] <wangjb> 3Q ,|JimBuntu.
[13:23] <wangjb> when I upgrade My Raspberry Pi 3B Whith Ubuntu Mate I can't Open FireFox.Displaid be Crashed.
[13:24] <JimBuntu> wangjb, You may do slightly better in the #raspberrypi channel.
[13:24] <wangjb> Ok.
[13:25] <adrian_1908> wangjb: one first approach is to try starting firefox with a fresh/new profile (don't recall how to do that, do a websearch)
[13:26] <adrian_1908> you can keep the old profile, you'd just create a (temporary) new one.
[13:27] <crimson_king> about:profiles
[13:28] <adrian_1908> crimson_king: but that's if you get into firefox, his is crasing on startup, so I presume starting from the cli with some flag is in order.
[13:28] <adrian_1908> *crashing
[13:33] <crimson_king> oh, right. maybe they could move the profile folder to other location and run firefox, which creates a new profile.
[13:35] <adrian_1908> yup, that's another possibility.
[13:44] <yh> hi
[13:44] <yh> \exit
[13:48] <mattfly> Hi!
[13:48] <mattfly> why are all the ubuntu servers down
[13:48] <mattfly> can someone give me any valid magnetic link to any ubuntu lightweigh distro or anything
[13:49] <mattfly> i needed to recover my ubuntu grub and I dont have a working iso
[13:49] <akem> mattfly, torrents.
[13:49] <mattfly> yes
[13:49] <mattfly> give me a magnetic link any
[13:49] <crimson_king> mattfly, magnet:?xt=urn:btih:90468ce462d7f5a63323fc1a4c67310203bff671&dn=lubuntu-17.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:49] <mattfly> not kubuntu 17.04 or newer because i cant use try mode with it
[13:50] <crimson_king> oop
[13:50] <mattfly> this torrent seek for peers forever i was trying it
[13:50] <crimson_king> mattfly, magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c1aa77dea674d71fbd85559034b6082b8434d36e&dn=lubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:51] <mattfly> well  let me try
[13:51] <mattfly> also connecting to peers and never loads
[13:51] <mattfly> do you have xubuntu or anything else?
[13:52] <crimson_king> can't you get it from http?
[13:52] <mattfly> no
[13:53] <mattfly> all ubuntu related serevrs seems to be down
[13:53] <crimson_king> well, they work for me, so it seems you got a problem there
[13:53] <crimson_king> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/xenial/release/desktop/xubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[13:54] <mattfly> it tells me its taking too long to load
[13:55] <mattfly> can u give me the magnetic link for that xubuntu?
[13:55] <crimson_king> i can't find a magnet, just torrent
[13:55] <mattfly> I have a weird connection problem
[13:56] <mattfly> is that servers ip 91.189.95.21 ?
[13:56] <mattfly> torrent.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <mattfly> i think im having some dns problem
[13:57] <crimson_king> then try changing to a different dns server if you can
[13:57] <crimson_king> try the new 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1
[13:58] <crimson_king> Cloudflare DNS
[13:59] <crimson_king> the IP you sent takes me to the Apache Test page
[13:59] <mattfly> yeah i think my dns is ok
[13:59] <crimson_king> And ipinfo.io tells me this server is Canonical's
[13:59] <mattfly> but some ip's are unreacheble
[13:59] <mattfly> Why is that happening?
[14:00] <mattfly> not even using my mobile 3G i can reach them
[14:01] <mattfly> yeah i can see things using tor
[14:01] <mattfly> so my ISP is blocking those things... jesus
[14:02] <crimson_king> i'm not the most knowledgeable person on network issues, but my last advice is to see if your country might be blocking them.
[14:04] <TJ-> mattfly: it could be a routing issue. 'tracepath' and 'ping' could help determine the problem
[14:05] <MacroMan> I'm can't get a samba share running. Here is my config: http://termbin.com/yjgj
[14:05] <MacroMan> I can't connect from either Ubuntu or Window$
[14:06] <R13ose> I am unable to stop the + button from typing in fields where I can write.  Any ideas on how to fix?
[14:08] <leftyfb> R13ose: do you mean if you type + on the keyboard, it keeps repeating?
[14:08] <JimBuntu> R13ose, Still having this issue? Did you disconnect the keyboard yet?
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !samba | MacroMan
[14:08] <leftyfb> R13ose: sounds like a hardware/keyboard problem to me
[14:08] <MacroMan> lotuspsychje: I've read both those guides already
[14:09] <MacroMan> I can't even browse the IP address of the server from windows
[14:09] <leftyfb> MacroMan: firewall?
[14:09] <MacroMan> Ah. Forgot about firewall
[14:09] <MacroMan> Hang on
[14:10] <MacroMan> leftyfb: That was it. Thank you
[14:10] <TJ-> JimBuntu: that's a good suggestion :)
[14:11] <JimBuntu> TJ-, I am pretty sure I suggested that back on day #1. I don't remember if it was tried. I am also someone who has had a laptop KB go bad on them in a similar fashion though
[14:11] <TJ-> JimBuntu: but it seems it's a controller issue with phantom interrupts so it probably won't help
[14:11] <JimBuntu> TJ-, Oh wow, that's way worse.
[14:11] <TJ-> JimBuntu: the issue doesnt affect BIOS or GRUB, it only starts once Linux initialises the i8042
[14:12] <R13ose> leftyfb: nope.  The + does this on its own
[14:12] <leftyfb> R13ose: try as JimBuntu suggested. Disconnect the keyboard
[14:12] <R13ose> JimBuntu: this is a laptop, I can't disconnect the keyboard in an easy way
[14:12] <leftyfb> R13ose: it shouldn't be too hard
[14:12] <TJ-> leftyfb: it isn't the keyboard!
[14:12] <leftyfb> TJ-: oh?
[14:13] <TJ-> read what I just told JimBuntu  ^^^
[14:13] <leftyfb> Have we confirmed this with a live cd/usb?
[14:13] <TJ-> leftyfb: We've spent several days exhaustively debugging it!
[14:13] <leftyfb> And so after all that, we have this person coming in here and asking for help from the beginning? That's productive
[14:14] <R13ose> leftyfb: I don't have a larger usb or CDROM drive. If there is a small one I can try, I will do that.
[14:14] <MacroMan> I've got my Samba share working, but it's read only. Can anyone help me see why?: http://termbin.com/yjgj
[14:14] <TJ-> leftyfb: if it means anything.. it's got me beat and flumoxed, OK?
[14:14] <TJ-> BIOS: OK  GRUB: OK  Linux: spurious interrupts with 0x4e several times per second from the i8042.
[14:14] <R13ose> leftyfb: there is a bug report that I forgot to link.
[14:14] <leftyfb> MacroMan: check permissions on the directory itself
[14:15] <MacroMan> They are my own user. What user does samba run under?
[14:15] <R13ose> Here is the bug report so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1761502
[14:16] <TJ-> R13ose: there's one thing we haven' tried, manually disabling the i802 keyboard input just to see if that does stop it. At the GRUB menu edit the menu entry's "linux ..." line and add "i8042.nokbd"
[14:16] <leftyfb> R13ose: If TJ- doesn't know, and you've got a bug report, you're probably not going to get much further help in here with it. It's also not productive to ask in here days later if someone can help you, ignoring the fact that one of our best has spent days on it and there's a bug report. You'll waste someone elses time troubleshooting from scratch.
[14:16] <TJ-> R13ose: you won't have keyboard but you should have the mouse so can trigger a reboot from the greeter screen
[14:16] <R13ose> leftyfb: okay I will stop now and only ask TJ
[14:17] <TJ-> leftyfb: someone else might have inspiration though :D
[14:17] <R13ose> TJ-: I will do that now
[14:18] <TJ-> R13ose: don't put it in /etc/default/grub because you'd never be able to edit it out!
[14:18] <sanroot> adb via USB not working in mint
[14:18] <leftyfb> sanroot: mint isn't supported here
[14:18] <sanroot> ok
[14:18] <TJ-> !mint | sanroot
[14:24] <R13ose> TJ-: after edit, I press F10, right?
[14:25] <TJ-> R13ose: yes, or Ctrl+X
[14:25] <R13ose> TJ-: the + happened during my edits of that file at grub menu.
[14:25] <TJ-> R13ose: Really? So it /does/ affect GRUB too.
[14:26] <R13ose> TJ-: yes but that is weird because our other test didn't do that
[14:26] <TJ-> R13ose: that changes a lot; that really does point to the hardware. If it were mine I'd remove and strip the keyboard. The most obvious cause is the silicon dimple  for the "+" key is stuck down inside the key body
[14:27] <R13ose> TJ-: I am at login screen
[14:27] <TJ-> R13ose: you might be able to examine that just by popping the key-cap again. Use a magnifier and lots of light, or video camera with some decent zoom
[14:27] <TJ-> R13ose: is the keyboard working or disabled?
[14:28] <R13ose> TJ-: disabled
[14:28] <TJ-> R13ose: OK, if you use the mouse to select one of the input text boxes does anything get added?
[14:28] <R13ose> TJ-: nothing gets added
[14:29] <TJ-> R13ose: OK, so that at least seems to tell us it's not an issue with the APIC (advanced programmable interrrupt controller) that the i8042 is connected to
[14:29] <TJ-> R13ose: Do a reboot so you have keyboard again
[14:30] <TJ-> R13ose: one more thing, this boot edit the GRUB menu entry and try "i8042.reset=1"
[14:33] <R13ose> TJ-: booting now after editing.
[14:35] <texla> When looking at gparted how do I determine which partitions are primary and is 4 the amount of primary all I can use
[14:35] <R13ose> TJ-: the +'s are back
[14:37] <Lope> I found this cool song about open source/linux that I'm inspired to share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UsKYsLSGpU&t=3m51s
[14:39] <TJ-> R13ose: I'm wondering if we can switch the i8042 from interrupt to polling mode
[14:41] <TJ-> R13ose: nope, no longer possible. There's one last boot-time option you can try "i8042.kbdreset=1"
[14:42] <R13ose> TJ-: going to try
[14:42] <CarlFK> what is the kernel module I need to load on a nat gateway that is forwarding ftp traffic to an inside box?
[14:44] <R13ose> TJ-: booting
[14:45] <TJ-> CarlFK: you mean nf_conntrack_ftp  ?
[14:46] <R13ose> TJ-: still happening
[14:46] <CarlFK> TJ-: sounds like it.  thanks
[14:46] <TJ-> CarlFK: or nf_nat_ftp ?
[14:47] <CarlFK> TJ-: duh, just searched history, found that one.
[14:47] <TJ-> R13ose: it points to the hardware then, and the most obvious is the silicon dimple in the key itself, or the tracks/pads below it, being shorted
[14:49] <CarlFK> woot.  226 Transfer complete;
[14:52] <osse> how can I find the time of the last (current) boot?
[14:53] <R13ose> TJ-: I feel my computer is smashed up enough that I need another computer right?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> osse: systemd-analyze
[14:53] <leftyfb> osse: type: last
[14:54] <leftyfb> R13ose: did you try just unplugging the keyboard and seeing if the problem goes away?
[14:54] <osse> lotuspsychje: ah, I meant when I booted, not how long it took. But thanks anyway, that's pretty cool
[14:54] <osse> leftyfb: thank you
[14:55] <R13ose> leftyfb: how?
[14:55] <leftyfb> R13ose: what is the model of your laptop?
[14:55] <leftyfb> R13ose: I'll google it for you
[14:56] <Fleetwood>  R13ose: a new keyboard for a laptop is only around 14 dollars on ebay, and youtube videos show you how to change it
[14:57] <leftyfb> it's usually 2 screws on the bottom and a couple tabs up top
[14:59] <R13ose> leftyfb: Acer Aspire V5-572
[15:00] <R13ose> I feel my laptop is too smashed.  I need to replace this as I dropped this too much.
[15:03] <leftyfb> R13ose: you probably should have mentioned that before
[15:03] <TJ-> osse: from the kernel uptime too: gawk '{print strftime("%x %X", systime() - $2)}' /proc/uptime
[15:03] <R13ose> leftyfb: I should have but I thought that problem and this one are different.
[15:03] <leftyfb> R13ose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h55RqJTVGDY
[15:04] <leftyfb> R13ose: I typed "Acer Aspire V5-572 keyboard" into youtube
[15:05] <osse> TJ-: TIL awk isn't gnu awk on Ubuntu... :P But this prints a time stamp that doesn't make sense. I wasn't home then :O
[15:06] <osse> TJ-: ah, maybe you meant $1 ? then I get the same time as by the other methods
[15:06] <TJ-> osse: right; hence gawk not awk.
[15:06] <TJ-> osse: oh, typo!
[15:06] <osse> Thanks
[15:07] <R13ose> leftyfb: thanks.  I feel I need a new computer.
[15:08] <n00n3r> you guys ever seen openvpn disable vino when it connects and if show, know how to stop that?
[15:08] <R13ose> leftyfb: any suggestions on what I should buy?
[15:09] <leftyfb> R13ose: a computer
[15:09] <leftyfb> R13ose: that's beyond the scope of this channel
[15:09] <JimBuntu> n00n3r, I have not seen openvpn disable any other software/etc.
[15:10] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, yea, i've tested it a few times. it may not be openvpn itself doing it, possibly something with vino, i dont know yet. googled a bit for a solution but nothing so far
[15:10] <R13ose> leftyfb: thanks
[15:10] <R13ose> jtfidje: thanks for your help
[15:11] <leftyfb> R13ose: thank TJ-, he put in all this time
[15:11] <JimBuntu> n00n3r, is vino being stopped/killed or is it simply an issue with you not being able to connect to it any more? The connectivity issue may make sense since your OpenVPN setup could be changing your routing (should be)
[15:11] <R13ose> Thanks TJ-
[15:11] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, stopping/killed
[15:11] <leftyfb> R13ose: what you really should do is take that keyboard out, plug in a usb keyboard, confirm it's hardware 100% and close out that bug
[15:12] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, can no longer see the vino pid's after openvpn connects
[15:12] <JimBuntu> wow n00n3r, there may be clues in dmesg/syslog/etc
[15:12] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, nothing so far i can find
[15:12] <R13ose> leftyfb: I don't have any of that to test.  Can I close the bug?
[15:12] <JimBuntu> n00n3r, without any other info, I'm thinking vino is crashing upon the network change.
[15:13] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, there's some configuration items for vino in dconf-editor, but thing relative
[15:13] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, yea. if i stop openvpn, the pids are back. so odd
[15:13] <TJ-> osse: I think there's a simpler way: "stat /proc"
[15:13] <leftyfb> R13ose: personally, I wouldn't until I knew 100% this is a hardware issue
[15:13] <leftyfb> which you don't
[15:14] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, this is ubuntu ver 17.10. openvpn v2.4.3-4
[15:14] <R13ose> leftyfb: the only way is to turn off the laptop keyboard and plug in a usb keyboard?
[15:14] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, sshd works just fine when i connect the vpn. its just vino
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, have you tried any other VNC service provider, such as x11vnc?
[15:15] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, yes, and it seems there are some issues with x11vnc, tigervnc and tightvncserver with u 17.10. i gave up on getting those working. vino seem to work best but then this vpn issue lol
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, Do you have custom ports defined for Vino or OpenVPN?
[15:16] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, no
[15:16] <hango> hey all having issues with jack and alsa
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !sound | hango
[15:16] <ozberk> hi guys I got a dump question. Firefox scroll speed is too slow
[15:16] <hango> cant seem to get jack server to start using alsa drivers
[15:16] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, iptables is disabled too
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: your graphics drivers installed correctly?
[15:16] <ozberk> lotuspsychje, yes
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: wich ubuntu version?
[15:17] <ozberk> previous lts 16.04
[15:17] <n00n3r> only thing ive not done at this point is turn on debuging on openvpn, not 100% sure that will even show anything but, i'll likely try it next just to say i have
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, strange that both iptables and vino aren't playing nice with OpenVPN... Are you trying to fowrad your local network through your OpenVPN server?
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: firefox version and graphics driver module?
[15:18] <n00n3r> not sure if there's some logging i could enable for vino, its tightly integrated in gnome right?
[15:18] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, no, iptables is basically disabled. its not a factor
[15:19] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, no, i'm just using openvpn to connect to my purevpn account
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, not very familiar with Vino... it was too laggy for my needs and corrupted displays were too annoying. I've been using x11vnc for many years without issue, though I have a customized configuration for some other issues
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, So this is an outgoing OpenVPN connection (client)
[15:20] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, i'd entertain the idea if giving x11vnc another go to get around this
[15:20] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, yes
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> Are you using OpenVPN community provided client, or a client provided by your VPN service provider?
[15:20] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, community
[15:21] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, all is working perfectly except Vino
[15:21] <JimBuntu> n00n3r, not to ignore the original issue, but may I suggest xrdp ?
[15:21] <n00n3r> gnmome, vino or openvpn or something disables/shuts down vino when the vpn connection is made
[15:22] <GuerreiroBR> ola
[15:22] <GuerreiroBR>  Hello
[15:22] <n00n3r> JimBuntu, i need to be able to share the local console. xrdp gives me my own session
[15:22] <n00n3r> this is for a PVR/DVR setup etc...
[15:22] <JimBuntu> ah, ok.
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> I'm stumpped n00n3r ... Is openVPN connection being managed through Network Manager?
[15:24] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, no, using a .conf file and systemd to start the service
[15:24] <n00n3r> i've used openvpn for years, but never had a need to connect local lan to a vnc service so this is new to me
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, what do you mean by local lan to a vnc service?
[15:28] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, the need to connect to the local console desktop, while a vpn is connected, such as in this situation etc...
[15:28] <n00n3r> using VNC
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, it is possible the VPN server is configured to send commands to tunnel all traffic over the VPN... which would lock out local network activity. This can be pushed from the service provider, or setup in the local .conf file
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, it wouldn't explain why Vino is being killed as a process
[15:31] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, not in this case, the actual vino PID get killed when vpn starts
[15:31] <n00n3r> yea thats the part thats odd about this
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, the only thing I could think of is the disruption to the network connections when openVPN updates routing tables
[15:32] <pragmaticenigma> causes vino to crash
[15:32] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, right that does make since
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, is the VPN intended to be run full time?
[15:34] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, yes
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, if you setup vino to run on demand, can you disable it... connect to the VPN, then enable Vino and see it working?
[15:36] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, not tried that. i'll give that a go and see. if it fails, maybe i can see why that way too.
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, if nothing gets logged, sometimes manually starting the process in the command line is the way to go
[15:37] <n00n3r> pragmaticenigma, right. thanks for that suggestion. its a good one
[15:43] <yellowflash> hello
[15:45] <Orbitor> hi
[15:45] <cariveri> hi.
[15:46] <TJ-> n00n3r: if the VINO PID disappears that suggests it's binding to some interface has gone. I'd suggest checking before the VPN comes up what socket address vino is bound to with "sudo ss -tnlp" - check again after the VPN starts to see if the IP address has gone away (also use "ip addr show")
[15:47] <cariveri> Does anyone know an easy way to have two internet connected PCs on the same VPN ?
[15:47] <n00n3r_> pragmaticenigma, interesting thing, works perfectly via command line. stop start vpn all good too. i can work with that
[15:53] <Napster> Hi
[15:53] <Napster> Hi
[15:54] <gp5st> My dad has an NTFS-formatted external USB 3 disk. I have an Thankpad x260 with USB 3. Is there anyway to speed up the NTFS access, a better method than FUSE? I'd like to copy just under a TB of video and it was copying at maybe double-digit kbps.
[15:55] <TJ-> gp5st: is it connected at USB3 speeds? check the kernel log ('dmsg')
[15:55] <gp5st> TJ-, yes, it is
[15:56] <TJ-> gp5st: are you doing the copy via GUI, or command line?
[15:57] <TJ-> gp5st: also, are you copying from USB  device to SATA device? or USB to USB  ?
[15:58] <gp5st> TJ-, command line, `rsync -avr --size-only` USB to internal SSD (SATA)
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, sweet... strange that vino being started within gnome has issues... but it's not entirely surprising... vino has always been fickle for me
[15:59] <TJ-> gp5st: is the speed you are seeing when it actually starts copying files, or whilst it is building the index?
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> n00n3r, you could probably script out launching OpenVPN and starting Vino
[15:59] <gp5st> fwiw, I do this with my ext3 usb 3 disks and it's pretty snappy (so the machine is capable of usb 3 speeds)
[15:59] <gp5st> TJ-, while copying (there aren't that many files. old video tapes he's record, so the index is small and size-only, no hashing)
[16:00] <TJ-> gp5st: but is the link actually up at superspeed rates? that's why I suggested checking in dmesg when the USB device was connected
[16:01] <gp5st> TJ-, yeah, dmesg and `lsubs -D` both seemed to say it's connected via usb 3
[16:01] <TJ-> gp5st: not sure then, presumably a hardware issue if it's not pushing the data through
[16:02] <gp5st> TJ-, since it's NTFS I was thinking going through FUSE was causing the issue
[16:02] <gp5st> not "issue", "unexpected performance"
[16:03] <gp5st> tbh, not even unexpected, it's not normally an issue, it's just that it's so much data this time
[16:03] <TJ-> gp5st: it's possible but I wouldn't have thought it'd be that dramatic
[16:04] <TJ-> gp5st: have you checked there are no I/O errors being reported?
[16:04] <gp5st> I didn't see anything in /var/log/syslog
[16:04] <TJ-> gp5st: 'dmesg -w' is the best tool for ongoing operations
[16:05] <gp5st> thanks! I'll do that next time I'm over there
[16:06] <TJ-> gp5st: I'd expect if fuse were the issue for the CPU usage to be quite high, since that'd be the bottleneck as userspace moved data from and to the kernel
[16:07] <gp5st> I should have `top`ed it, but I also wasn't doing anything else, so I didn't notice anything
[16:09] <TJ-> might be worth installing iotop in preparation for your next session, too
[16:10] <TJ-> gp5st: also, is it possible the driver/enclosure has a power-saving mode that is triggered when laptop is operating on battery?
[16:10] <gp5st> possible, but I had it plugged it
[16:10] <gp5st> I'll have to grab iotop and check it
[16:11] <gp5st> I was also thinking of doing `dd` to see what kind of raw performance i can get
[16:13] <gp5st> thanks for the sanity checks, TJ- :)
[16:14] <TJ-> gp5st: yes, dd is a good test of raw speed
[16:14] <TJ-> gp5st: my gut feel is the link is coming up at SuperSpeed rates
[16:15] <gp5st> I'll have to save the output next time.
[16:16] <TJ-> grrrr, vital typo... s/link is/ link is NOT/
[16:20] <Hey_> MAAS channel is so dead.
[16:20] <nacc> Hey_: there is also #ubuntu-server
[16:21] <Hey_> nacc: I'll check them out.
[16:35] <bodie__> hey.  looking for a workaround for this since it impacts prezto theme prompt correctness.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsh/+bug/1734223
[16:35] <bodie__> I tried installing it by hand but there are issues.
[16:35] <bodie__> has anyone tried making a patched version?
[16:36] <nacc> bodie__: it's fixed in bionic already
[16:37] <nacc> bodie__: and honestly, not going to be fixed in 17.10
[16:37] <thurin> connect oftc
[16:40] <bodie__> nacc, good news by me :) is it possible to dist-upgrade to bionic?
[16:41] <nacc> bodie__: yes, if you are on 17.10, you can use `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`
[16:41] <nacc> bodie__: note that support for bionic is in #ubuntu+1 until it releases
[16:41] <tester> how can i have some service run on start
[16:41] <tester> as in automatically
[16:42] <nacc> tester: is it a systemd unit?
[16:42] <Maakay> hi :) how to install last version of lxqt on xfce pls ?  (lxqt 0.12) not available in synaptics
[16:42] <tester> nacc idk. i run it with service name start
[16:42] <nacc> tester: what version of ubuntu?
[16:42] <tester> latest
[16:42] <nacc> Maakay: are you on 16.04?
[16:43] <nacc> tester: that's not a sufficiently descriptive answer, `lsb_release -sd` please
[16:43] <tester> im not in front of it, but i want to take care of this as soon as im there again
[16:43] <tester> let me try ssh there
[16:43] <nacc> tester: hard to help otherwise
[16:43] <Maakay> yep nacc on 16.04 on XFCE
[16:44] <nacc> Maakay: it's not available ... you would need to upgrade to get a newer version
[16:44] <Maakay> shit :(
[16:44] <leftyfb> Maakay: why do you need that version?
[16:44] <Maakay> i've seen that 0.11 is available but 0.12 not available in synaptics
[16:45] <nacc> Maakay: are you sure you are talking about the right package? on 16.04, lxqt is at '4'
[16:45] <Maakay> leftyfb, LXQT seems to be more silly than XFCE
[16:45] <OerHeks> 0.12 is in testing, https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/lubuntu-daily
[16:45] <tester> nacc 17.10
[16:45] <Maakay> but available on https://lxqt.org/
[16:45] <nacc> tester: ok, run `systemctl status <name>` instead of service and pastebin the output
[16:46] <nacc> Maakay: that's upstream,  you are running a distribution.
[16:46] <nacc> Maakay: liblxqt 0.12.0-5 is in 18.04 (currently in development)
[16:46] <Maakay> oki i will wait :)
[16:47] <tester> nacc what specifically? i cant start copypasting now
[16:47] <tester> it loaded from /etc/systemd/system/..
[16:47] <tester> if that's what you're getting at
[16:48] <AGXE> hello
[16:48] <nacc> tester: you can use pastebinit
[16:48] <nacc> tester: if systemctl status works, you can use `sudo systemctl enable <name>` and it should start at aboot
[16:49] <tester> thanks.
[16:51] <mattfly> hello
[16:52] <mattfly> im now trying to recover ubuntu 17.10 from a chroot live usb
[16:52] <mattfly> when i run update-grup ubuntu grup dont add ubuntu to the grub list just windows
[16:52] <mattfly> so grub is not detecting my own linux system where its installed
[16:52] <mattfly> and it is a UEFI
[16:53] <mattfly> what can i try
[16:53] <mattfly> ?
[16:56] <OnkelTem> Does anybody know how to get all characters map for layout English (US) variabt English (international AltGr dead keys) in Ubuntu?
[16:57] <leftyfb> open the "character map" utility?
[16:57] <OnkelTem> leftyfb: I don't have it I think
[16:58] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: if you're running a release of ubuntu made in the last 5 years you do
[16:58] <jbarcelo>  /server alpha.elitebnc.org 1337 jbarcelo:e8-Dlitebnc
[16:59] <OnkelTem> leftyfb: probably on Kubuntu it's different then, cuz I'm running it
[16:59] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: yup, you're right. It's a gnome utility
[17:01] <OnkelTem> Ok folks, can any of you enter character: ɛ ?
[17:02] <fishbone_> hello all, not sure if I am in the right place; I am having issues registering with ubuntu one
[17:02] <lotuspsychje_> !one
[17:02] <fishbone_> I created an account and I am not receiving the confirmation email to my aol account
[17:02] <lotuspsychje_> hmm
[17:03] <lotuspsychje_> !ubuntuone | fishbone_
[17:03] <fishbone_> ubottu: I see, thanks for the response. That being the case, is there another way for me to create an account for launchpad?
[17:04] <ioria> OnkelTem, in unicode is U+03b5
[17:04] <OnkelTem> ioria: yep, probably. It's a symbol from IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet). I would like to enter characters from it using kbd
[17:05] <ioria> OnkelTem, i guess there is no /usr/bin/charmap on your system ?
[17:06] <OnkelTem> ioria: nope :(
[17:06] <OnkelTem> ioria: would you please check out the package name?
[17:07] <ioria> OnkelTem, gucharmap
[17:09] <ioria> OnkelTem, needless  to say that you can install the Greek keyboard and press 'e' :þ
[17:10] <OerHeks> !info KCharSelect
[17:10] <OerHeks> for Kubuntu, that is
[17:10] <ioria> OnkelTem, i think it's the same, yes
[17:15] <ioria> OnkelTem, found it ? should be in Symbola -> Greek
[17:19] <OnkelTem> ioria: installed kcharselect (thanks OerHeks
[17:20] <OnkelTem> Eh... with kcharmap I see symbols, that's great. But it doesn't tell how can I enter them
[17:21] <OnkelTem> There is a separate category in KCharSelect - phonetic symbols
[17:22] <OnkelTem> ioria: btw, grek ε has different code then phonetic ɛ
[17:22] <OnkelTem> than*
[17:23] <OnkelTem> Dunno why, this doesn't seem optimal :)
[17:23] <ioria> OnkelTem, what you need  'exactly' ?
[17:24] <OnkelTem> I don't get why there is no Layout visualisation in KDE? This is just stupid
[17:25] <gogeta> OnkelTem, what now
[17:25] <OnkelTem> gogeta: no visualization of Layout.
[17:25] <gogeta> OnkelTem, i think that above my paygrade
[17:25] <gogeta> paygrade
[17:26] <gogeta> lol
[17:31] <Kule> APT or YUM flash for Kubuntu?
[17:31] <nacc> Kule: YUM? that's a redhat thing
[17:31] <Kule> ty
[17:34] <leftyfb> :/
[17:37] <pvl1> oh now i remember why im here.why is /etc/krb5.conf linked to  /usr/local/samba/private/krb5.conf
[17:37] <pvl1> /usr/local/samba doesnt even exist
[17:37] <pvl1> is that implying that there are missing components of samba/kerberos?
[17:39] <nacc> pvl1: you built samba from source?
[17:39] <pvl1> i hope not
[17:39] <pvl1> but i dont thinki did nacc
[17:39] <pvl1> i didnt see the mit support
[17:39] <nacc> pvl1: /usr/local/samba isn't used by samba, afaict
[17:39] <nacc> pvl1: definitely not by the ubuntu pacakges
[17:39] <pvl1> aah
[17:40] <pvl1> well, samba is installed... im guessing thats the version im using. dont tihnk i compiled
[17:40] <Jordan_U> pvl1: How did you install samba?
[17:40] <pvl1> im guessing repos...
[17:40] <Alekisx2> hello
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> Alekisx2: welcome, how can we help you?
[17:40] <pvl1> Jordan_U: yeah looking at dpkg, they're all ubuntu named versions
[17:40] <Alekisx2> I have a newbie theory question if anyone can help me understand it
[17:41] <nacc> pvl1: well, /etc/krb5.conf being a symlink int /usr/local implies some weird local config
[17:41] <Alekisx2> I tried googling it but I can't wrap my head around the concept
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> Alekisx2: if its about ubuntu, shoot
[17:41] <Alekisx2> Why is it bad to have "." your current directory in $PATH
[17:42] <Alekisx2> I understand it's because of possibility of malicious programs running
[17:42] <Alekisx2> It's my last question on my assignment
[17:42] <nacc> Alekisx2: why would you ever need your current path to be in PATH normally?
[17:42] <nacc> Alekisx2: also, we don't do your homework for you
[17:42] <Alekisx2> it's a theory question
[17:42] <Alekisx2> so far I understand that it's because you can a malicious program can run in it
[17:42] <nacc> Alekisx2: you said 'assignment'?
[17:42] <nacc> Alekisx2: which sounds like homework you can do
[17:43] <Alekisx2> and if you needed to run a certain command you could specify it by using ./
[17:43] <Alekisx2> if you wanted to run it in current directory
[17:43] <Alekisx2> but I don't understand more than that
[17:43] <Alekisx2> I guess
[17:44] <Alekisx2> well I tried googling and reading the security concerns for having your current directory in PATH
[17:44] <Alekisx2> but I'm not getting it
[17:44] <pvl1> nacc: im wondering if i should uninstall and retry
[17:45] <pvl1> or just remove the smlink and hack away ike normal people
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> Alekisx2: sounds like something more for ##linux channel then ubuntu
[17:45] <nacc> pvl1: is /usr/local/samba owned by any packages?
[17:45] <Alekisx2> hmm gotcha
[17:45] <pvl1> nacc: ive been trying to remember how to do that. been working backwards wtih dpkg -L
[17:46] <nacc> pvl1: `dpkg -S`
[17:47] <pvl1>  who needs man when u have irc
[17:48] <pvl1> yeah nothing matches it. i had to have copied and pasted some code. thats the only thing i can think off
[17:48] <pvl1> nothing owns /etc/krb5.conf either tho
[17:49] <pvl1> ooh found something
[17:49] <pvl1> well, samba does preinstall a krb5.conf but in a totes diff directory
[17:49] <Jordan_U> lankanmon: pvl1
[17:50] <Jordan_U> pvl1: Sorry about that. What is the output of "dpkg -S /etc/krb5.conf" ?
[17:50] <pvl1> nothing
[17:51] <nacc> pvl1: i woudl have expected it to be /etc/samba/krb5.conf
[17:51] <pvl1> theres files in that dir
[17:52] <pvl1> but files arent owned by anything
[17:52] <pvl1> krb5-kdc owns dir
[17:52] <pvl1> theres a package something like krb5-config that has some templates but i think they're in /usr/share area
[17:54] <pvl1> whatever. ima rm -rf ./* on that file and just make new. i dont think its doing anything anyway. im willing to bet i messed something up a while ago. file's dated form jan 2017
[17:56] <ioria> OnkelTem, yes, the code for the phonetic symbol (not epsilon, as i thought ) is 025B
[17:59] <s10gopal> i have selected do nothing when lid is closed , but when i connect monitor and close lid , monitor's screen also gets off
[18:18] <brainwash> s10gopal: because the system suspends?
[18:19] <s10gopal> brainwash, no
[18:19] <s10gopal> brainwash, just display gets off , i have also selected do not suspent
[18:19] <s10gopal> suspend
[18:22] <brainwash> maybe this https://askubuntu.com/questions/827139/closing-lid-turns-off-external-monitor-on-16-04
[18:23] <brainwash> the first answer has a link to another askubuntu page also
[18:23] <brainwash> I suggest reading through all these suggestions
[18:24] <mattfly> im trying to recover my ubuntu from a live usb but i cant get networking working
[18:24] <mattfly> ping 8.8.8.8  works but not ping google.com
[18:24] <apb1963> Is there a reason why /bin/false is not in /etc/shells?
[18:24] <mattfly> i have added nameservers to my /etc/resolv.conf
[18:25] <mattfly> still doesnt work
[18:25] <mattfly> and im using chroot
[18:25] <s10gopal> brainwash, thx , i am using ubuntu 14.04 , they will work ?
[18:27] <brainwash> 14.04 mmh
[18:27] <apb1963> mattfly, edit /etc/network/interfaces file
[18:27] <brainwash> no plans to upgrade to 16.04?
[18:28] <mattfly> what do I do there apb1963
[18:29] <Dbugger> Hi everyone
[18:29] <apb1963> mattfly, that's where your name servers go.
[18:29] <apb1963> mattfly, dns-nameservers 10.1.1.1 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 50.23.197.95
[18:29] <apb1963>     dns-search yourDomain.com
[18:29] <Dbugger> I have a problem. everytime I log into ubuntu, apparently the "update-notifier" gives me a "System program problem detected"
[18:29] <Dbugger> why could it be?
[18:29] <mattfly> i just append that to its end
[18:30] <mattfly> i only have one interface and its lo
[18:30] <apb1963> mattfly, It needs to be within the appropriate iface stanza.
[18:30] <mattfly> its a chroot system
[18:30] <mattfly> yes bu there isnt its a chroot
[18:30] <s10gopal> brainwash, i want to but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[18:31] <s10gopal> Dbugger, same is happening with me , just ignore it , it is not causing any problem
[18:31] <apb1963> mattfly, do you control the machine?  Or do you have chrooted account you're working from?
[18:31] <Dbugger> s10gopal, so it is a bug?`
[18:31] <mattfly> im trying to recover a ubuntu grub and i need apt
[18:31] <s10gopal> Dbugger, report it and you will get info too , s package is causing problem , but i dont know about it
[18:31] <mattfly> i went with a live usb and chrooted to it
[18:32] <apb1963> so you're running from a chrooted account.
[18:32] <mattfly> yeah but dns works on my host
[18:33] <mattfly> i just need apt working on the chrooted mahcine
[18:34] <apb1963> mattfly, you'll need to research that.. even if I remembered how I did it, it wasn't on ubuntu so it would likely be different.
[18:34] <EriC^^> mattfly: mount bind /run
[18:34] <akik> mattfly: you can edit /etc/resolv.conf directly and add the nameserver lines there
[19:09] <OerHeks> yes
[19:10] <Sterist> hellos, I'm trying to host a single html file locally, and as such apache2 is the go-to. I have set it up already. now, I've run into two little bumps... #1 can I just swap out the default index file with the one I want (renamed to match the default), and if not, if I just place it in the same directory is any further configuration needed for it to become live?
[19:11] <Sterist> or should I be asking in a different room entirely? lol
[19:12] <JimBuntu> Sterist, yes, you can replace or simply go to the file by name. If Apache is up and running, you shouldn't need to do anything else for the file to be live
[19:12] <Younder> Sterist, yes just swap out index. If all you are doing is serving HTML no further config is needed.
[19:12] <Slart> Sterist: afaik you don't need to rename it..
[19:12] <Sterist> not all at once :D
[19:12] <JimBuntu> Sterist, technically, these questions aren't really for Ubuntu support, but it's quiet
[19:12] <Slart> Sterist: index.html just happens to be the default file it loads when you don't specify which file you want
[19:15] <Sterist> okay and it's been over a year since I've used... what's the GUI root file manager again? sorry I like to stay away from CLI as much as possible
[19:15] <ioria> Sterist, to be honest, there is no GUI root file manager
[19:16] <OerHeks> time to read some manual: sudo nano /var/www/html/index.html
[19:16] <Sterist> whatever works best, I know I've used a couple before
[19:16] <JimBuntu> ioria, well... you can always kill nautilus and start it with sudo from the command line ;-)
[19:16] <ioria> Sterist, you can use gksu with nautilus, if you want
[19:16] <Sterist> that might have been what I did before. I think I've also used something like "gedit"
[19:16] <ioria> JimBuntu, i would not kill nautilus, thanks :þ
[19:18] <Younder> Personally I think much of the interesting stuff happens on the command line. I don't recommend rejecting it unless you are just a casual user. Things linke vagrant and docker and aws tools are better managed from the command line.
[19:21] <Maakay> vagrant is still working ?
[19:22] <Younder> yes
[19:23] <electromagnetism> well peanut butter tastes like french fries mix skittles with it ...
[19:25] <howudodat> need some hep with power settings and my dell laptop running 16.04.4.  it used to suspend when I closed the lid or after idle when on battery, now it powers down, I have checked the power settings in gnome settings, in dconf and in logind.conf, I cant seem to get it to work
[19:27] <leftyfb> electromagnetism: can we help you with something?
[19:27] <electromagnetism> howudodat:  it's in  Tweak Tool
[19:27] <swein> Should I add pbutter or jelly to my skittles?
[19:27] <leftyfb> swein: / electromagnetism: please stay on topic
[19:28] <Sterist> depending on the needs of the hour I may phase between casual and involved, so I know a lot about a little and a little about a lot. GUI's are meant for humans though! (o_<)
[19:28] <howudodat> tweak tool->power all show suspend
[19:28] <swein> leftyfb: on april 6th the last 18.04 beta was announced, ar eyou excited for release?
[19:28] <leftyfb> !bionic | swein
[19:28] <nacc> swein: #ubuntu+1 for bionic, but not discussion, support
[19:29] <electromagnetism> leftyfb: sry wrong room post earlier D
[19:30] <electromagnetism> howudodat:  maybe systemctl unmask sleep.target suspend.target
[19:30] <ioria> Sterist, usually you run apache on a server ; servers ship usually without a gui for a reason (resources/security) ... so be familiar with text editors would be good  (wit)
[19:32] <Sterist> this is for a very personal use, but not in the "personal info" way, just, not needed for anything or anyone else and puts nothing at risk of accessed in any other way
[19:32] <Sterist> if accessed**
[19:32] <Sterist> I will definitely keep that in mind for the future though!
[19:32] <generalfluffles> hi everyone
[19:32] <ioria> Sterist, we're put then
[19:32] <TJ-> howudodat: check /var/log/syslog and also 'journalctl -u upower.service"
[19:32] <generalfluffles> i am facing an error with wine
[19:33] <leftyfb> Sterist: as has been mentioned, you will get WAY better with linux and administering servers if you do without a GUI. The GUI's do nothing to help manage a server anyway and in fact, do slow the process down and get in the way
[19:33] <generalfluffles> ./leave
[19:33] <generalfluffles> oops
[19:34] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: please detail your issue
[19:34] <howudodat> systemctl status sleep/hibernate/suspend/hybrid.target show all 4 are enabled and loaded
[19:34] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: along with the version of ubuntu you're running
[19:34] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, i am using ubuntu 16.04 lts
[19:34] <howudodat> journalctl shows upower is started
[19:35] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, ive just updated from ubuntu 14.04 lts emptying my drive
[19:35] <Sterist> I am not in the IT industry and do not anticipate being, this is just to make a single file accessible through my laptop over LAN from another problematic device. petty :)
[19:35] <generalfluffles> to get rid of the errors
[19:35] <generalfluffles> that i got in the older versions
[19:36] <generalfluffles> anyway i tried using winecfg and it reports this:
[19:36] <generalfluffles> fixme:ole:RemUnknown_QueryInterface No interface for iid {00000019-0000-0000-c000-000000000046}
[19:38] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: do you need to keep anything that was already installed in wine?
[19:38] <generalfluffles> nope
[19:38] <generalfluffles> i did not use wine due to its complexity
[19:39] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: rm -rf ~/.wine
[19:39] <leftyfb> that will wipe anything you've installed in wine and any configs
[19:39] <howudodat> electromagnetism, TJ- results of the commands: https://pastebin.com/y9uK26s1
[19:39] <generalfluffles> leftyfb,  wont that remove it?
[19:39] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: then try installing your windows app
[19:39] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: it won't remove wine, only what you've done with it
[19:39] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: what are you trying to run in wine?
[19:40] <generalfluffles> a silver type game
[19:40] <generalfluffles> that has the same bugs/glitches as windows
[19:40] <generalfluffles> according to wineHQ's database
[19:43] <TJ-> howudodat: it's no good grep-ing syslog; you need to read it in-detail around the time of the power event to determine what was going on
[19:43] <howudodat> TJ- ok
[19:43] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, it didn't do anything at all
[19:44] <leftyfb> generalfluffles: what is the issue? (use pastebin)
[19:44] <howudodat> closing the lid be back in a few minutes
[19:44] <PsychoBoB> hey
[19:44] <PsychoBoB> what the diff between ubuntu and manjaro
[19:45] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, it loaded for half a minute and suddenly stopped loading
[19:45] <PsychoBoB> what the best?
[19:45] <generalfluffles> ehh
[19:45] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: manjaro is not ubuntu. Ubuntu is the only distro supported here.
[19:45] <PsychoBoB> ubuntu is the better?
[19:45] <generalfluffles> if manjaro is a linux OS then there should be a channel about it
[19:46] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: that is an inappropriate question to be asking here
[19:46] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: try them both out and decide for yourself
[19:46] <s10gopal> TJ-, please give me 2 minutes , i need to install both of the files ? [jsalisbury is not online and i am going to sleep. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jsalisbury/lp1745646/
[19:46] <PsychoBoB> why?
[19:46] <PsychoBoB> I don't know
[19:46] <JimBuntu> generalfluffles, There is #manjaro
[19:46] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: try them both out and decide for yourself
[19:47] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: go to #manjaro for help with manjaro
[19:47] <PsychoBoB> good, i try it
[19:47] <generalfluffles> PsychoBoB, its like asking: whats better ice cream or frozen yogurt
[19:48] <leftyfb> it's like going to #blue and asking "which is better, red or blue?"
[19:48] <PsychoBoB> i like two
[19:48] <PsychoBoB> both
[19:48] <s10gopal> leftyfb, can you please tell ?
[19:48] <generalfluffles> wow
[19:48] <generalfluffles> okay
[19:48] <leftyfb> s10gopal: tell what?
[19:49] <generalfluffles> tell that at a channel with tons of users
[19:49] <generalfluffles> ill go to the united states and ask whats better New York or Los Angeles
[19:49] <s10gopal> leftyfb, i need to install both of the files or test one kernel at a time ? file : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jsalisbury/lp1745646/          https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646 #71
[19:50] <leftyfb> s10gopal: why?
[19:50] <leftyfb> s10gopal: you've provided zero context
[19:50] <generalfluffles> leftyfb, thanks for your time ill try going to #wineHQ channel for further help
[19:50] <electromagnetism> yeah some file directories and stuff are different on Majuro vs Ubuntu to name something , using Ubuntu's channel will cause unneeded confusion
[19:50] <generalfluffles> have a nice day
[19:50] <OerHeks> s10gopal, see the mainline factoid how and in which order
[19:50] <OerHeks> !mainline
[19:51] <s10gopal> OerHeks, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646 #71 and the link too
[19:51] <electromagnetism> geezzz chat lag lol
[19:52] <s10gopal> OerHeks, he always provide songle image or image + header , this time i have image and image extra
[19:52] <leftyfb> s10gopal: install both. One is the kernel, the other is the "extras" package for that kernel
[19:52] <OerHeks> s10gopal, no need to read that url, i answered how to install those 2 debs
[19:52] <ioria> s10gopal, in this case you don't need headers
[19:53] <TJ-> s10gopal: install both -extra contains modules
[19:53] <ioria> s10gopal, it's just a test
[19:53] <s10gopal> thx , i am going to install both of the files
[19:53] <leftyfb> then why ask?
[19:54] <s10gopal> i dont know what to do
[19:54] <OerHeks> and upgrade gru, logibcally
[19:54] <OerHeks> c/grub
[19:55] <s10gopal> before i dont have any idea what to do , thats why i asked it
[19:56] <Sterist> another question regarding localhost, sorry ;) should a connected device need to have network settings manually configured to allow proper communication?
[19:57] <JimBuntu> Sterist, most let DHCP handle that, if I understand your question. DHCP is rather common now.
[19:58] <Sterist> I don't know how relevant this is but if it helps clear the air, this "network" in is 2 devices that need to talk to each, and no internet (better if no internet!)
[19:59] <Sterist> talk to each other**
[19:59] <JimBuntu> Sterist, and no appliance/device that they both connect to? as in, do you want to use one cable and connect the 2 devices together with it?
[19:59] <Sterist> direct. no router
[19:59] <JimBuntu> Sterist, in this case they either have to be manually configured... or what I would do, is let one of them be the DHCP server
[20:00] <JimBuntu> Sterist, I have used isc-dhcp-server for this
[20:00] <Sterist> the laptop is the server.
[20:01] <JimBuntu> If the laptop is acting as the DHCP server (properly) then the client device should get configured automatically (if it has DHCP enabled).... the only other thing I can think of that might give you trouble is that is the network cards don't auto-configure the pins for direct-connect, then you may need a cross-over patch cable.
[20:01] <Sterist> when I've concluded my need for this localhost network, will I need to revert anything the restore conventional networking?
[20:02] <Sterist> or would it have no effect?
[20:02] <JimBuntu> Sterist, once you no longer need it, then you can disable isc-dhcp-server (or your DHCP server daemon of choice)
[20:02] <Sterist> I've learned to troubleshoot before trouble shoots ;)
[20:03] <howudodat> ok, a bit more details and the results of my syslog.  On power, the system suspends and fires up with a lid close.  Only on battery lid closes causes a full power off.  here is my syslog: https://pastebin.com/DVq4ah7r
[20:03] <JimBuntu> Agreed, asking questions early leads to less trouble later, especially less urgent trouble
[20:03] <Sterist> isc-dhcp-server: command not found
[20:04] <Sterist> would it be less hassle to just manually configure the connecting device?
[20:04] <JimBuntu> Sterist, you probably need to install it. sudo apt-get install isc-dhcp-server
[20:04] <JimBuntu> Sterist, probably less.
[20:06] <leftyfb> Sterist: you really should be reading and learning about these things
[20:06] <leftyfb> not just assuming and typing things in
[20:06] <leftyfb> !ics | Sterist
[20:06] <TJ-> howudodat: does the GUI power management dialog  have different settings for 'on battery' and 'on AC' ?
[20:07] <Sterist> I have no problem sharing an internet connecting, I actually have that set up already. in the particular case I do NOT want the connected device to have any access to the internet until I've completed this work.
[20:07] <leftyfb> Sterist: what is this other device for?
[20:07] <Sterist> thank you though :)
[20:08] <Sterist> it's a PlayStation 3, trying to host the jailbreak webpage because the website  crashes for days at a time
[20:09] <howudodat> TJ- if I am blind maybe :)  they all look ok to me, https://pasteboard.co/HfRvtGT.png
[20:09] <Sterist> ps3's have metadata reporting, so pre-jailbreak internet connection / during the process = likely banned or soon to be
[20:10] <leftyfb> :/
[20:11] <leftyfb> Sterist: you should just enable ICS but then unplug your PC from the internet while you're doing bad things to your PS3
[20:12] <Sterist> that's what I'm attempting to do. the hurdle of the moment is the ps3 isn't pulling up anything from localhost
[20:12] <leftyfb> localhost points to the machine you're running it from
[20:12] <Sterist> which as jimbuntu suggested, may be the lack of dhcp
[20:12] <JimBuntu> localhost is relative... you can't visit localhost/index.html from the PS3... as it will be looking at the PS3
[20:12] <TJ-> howudodat: There could be some problem with what the GUI shows compared to the stored internal settings so I'd suggest 2 tests: 1) create a new user, configure it the same way via GUI, and test.  2) switch to a text console and test
[20:12] <Sterist> I'm working on that now
[20:12] <leftyfb> Sterist: you need to type in the ip of the machine running the web server
[20:13] <leftyfb> Sterist: point your PS3 at the ip address of the pc hosting the website
[20:13] <Sterist> okay, netstat?
[20:13] <leftyfb> for what?
[20:13] <leftyfb> to get the ip, type ifconfig
[20:13] <Sterist> oh right
[20:13] <leftyfb> on the pc you're hosting the website on
[20:15] <Sterist> yeah looks like 127.0.0.1 I've tried typing that in the ps3's browser, and 127.0.0.1:80 and 127.0.0.1/index.html and 127.0.0.1:80/index.html
[20:15] <Sterist> all give blank pages
[20:15]  * leftyfb sigh
[20:15]  * JimBuntu passes leftyfb a fresh mug od calming tea.
[20:15] <leftyfb> I feel like I'm wasting my time here ..... since this is all just to get a PS3 jailbroken and no further interest in learning what's going on or linux at all
[20:16] <JimBuntu> Sterist, 127.0.0.1 is a loopback.
[20:17] <JimBuntu> Sterist, did you configure the network card on the laptop to use a 'private IP'? Such as something starting with 10. or 172.16 or 192.168 ?
[20:18] <Sterist> I have not manually configured anything on that end of things, my ps3 does acquire an address though, beginning with 10.
[20:18] <howudodat> TJ- aren't the stored setings at /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/lid-close-battery-action?
[20:20] <Sterist> 10.42.0.184 IP,  default router and dns 10.42.0.1
[20:20] <TJ-> howudodat: possibly; it doesn't mean they're being passed correctly to upower, the system power daemon
[20:21] <bodie__> I think this issue is going to impact others: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1753796
[20:21] <JimBuntu> Sterist, is 10.42.0.1 actually your router? If so, sounds like you need to disable wireless
[20:21] <leftyfb> JimBuntu: that's the internet sharing ip
[20:22] <leftyfb> that'll be the ip of the pc, not the PS3
[20:22] <Sterist> wireless is disabled on both devices, the only networking enabled is LAN and they are directly connected
[20:23] <leftyfb> Sterist: on your PS3, go to http://10.42.0.1
[20:23] <leftyfb> if that doesn't work, try 184, but that doesn't sound right
[20:24] <Sterist> I love you.
[20:24] <Sterist> probably the last thing you wanted to hear, I bet lol
[20:24] <JimBuntu> That escalated quickly.
[20:25] <akem> On Ubuntu 17 i was able to change the CPU mode to "performance" with "sudo cpufreq-set -r -g performance" but i can't change it back to "ondemand", any idea?
[20:26] <leftyfb> Sterist: if you loved me, you'd take an interest in learning linux :)
[20:27] <Sterist> if it helps alleviate any induced stress, this is something that will be getting used many many times, likely 30+ per year for 2 years or so. not a one and done
[20:27] <leftyfb> nope, that makes it worse actually
[20:28] <Sterist> actually I have been around Linux some 12 years. in fact, I sued Sony in Small Claims in 2010 when they revoked Linux capabilities on ps3.
[20:29] <akem> Nm, find out it's "powersave" mode.
[20:29] <leftyfb> you'd be better off putting linux on a raspberry pi than a PS3 .... you'd more than likely get more use out of it
[20:30] <leftyfb> but I digress, off topic
[20:31] <Sterist> versus the original implementation, yes because the GPU was blocked off. under the new implementation, with GPU enabled (through jailbreak) no.
[20:31] <leftyfb> what's the use case?
[20:31] <JimBuntu> mining?
[20:31] <leftyfb> emulators which don't fully utilize the GPU?
[20:31] <leftyfb> JimBuntu: not worth it
[20:31] <bodie__> other issue that I'm sure will impact others is that the HD Audio front panel for ALC1220 doesn't get routed properly (? terminology) due to the dual-codec thing.
[20:32] <bodie__> gonna dig up a quick source
[20:34] <Hey_> I have two network cards connnected to two different networks
[20:34] <Hey_> do I set a default gw for both interfaces?
[20:34] <Skaface82> theres only 1 default
[20:34] <Hey_> of course
[20:34] <Hey_> and the other interface?
[20:35] <Skaface82> you need to set up static routes
[20:35] <Skaface82> so the packets go somewhere other than the default route
[20:35] <Hey_> understood
[20:35] <leftyfb> Hey_: you want a default gateway and a route. You can't have 2 defaults .... kinda goes against the definition of "default"
[20:35] <Hey_> understood.
[20:35] <Hey_> ok
[20:35] <Hey_> static route
[20:36] <leftyfb> Hey_: man route
[20:36] <bodie__> This explains the issue and resolution which impacts my HD Audio config, and I was able to make sound come out:
[20:36] <bodie__> https://frdmtoplay.com/gigabyte-front-panel-audio-with-linux/
[20:36] <leftyfb> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-add-static-routing/
[20:36] <bodie__> it's the built-in HD Audio for the Gigabyte AX370 motherboard
[20:36] <bodie__> I think other mobos with the same chipset have a similar issue
[20:37] <leftyfb> Hey_: or find that link from googling for "ubuntu static route" ^
[20:37] <TJ-> There can be multiple default routes; usually when using policy based routing (multiple routing tables)
[20:38] <Skaface82> oh thats true
[20:39] <bodie__> However, I'm not really sure how to preserve this info after boot....
[20:39] <howudodat> I need to run off to a dr appt.  I did a bunch of testing with tweak tool.  if I set laptop lid closed/on battery power in tweak tool to "nothing" it does nothing.  any other setting and it does a complete power off
[20:39] <bodie__> s/boot/reboot/
[20:39] <Skaface82> thats how i set up my android phone, told it to route to the LTE network be default any packets coming from my WIFI, so I can use it as a gateway without having to teather the phone
[20:39] <howudodat> I'll be back on in a few hours to troubleshoot some more (TJ- )
[20:40] <TJ-> howudodat: sounds like you might need to focus on verbose upower logging to find out what the GUI tells it to do
[20:41] <spion> This keeps happening on my thinkpad :| I activate the lockscreen to clean my keyboard, and my touchpad stops working. `xinput list` says that "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" is enabled, and the "off" mode is 2 (so cursor movement should work). gnome-control-center says its enabled. but it doesn't work - neither in i3wm, nor at the login screen...
[20:41] <spion> oh and `sudo cat /dev/input/event6` generates stuff when i move the touchpad.
[20:42] <slidinghorn> I have a stupid question.  I've gotten very used to whatever version of vim comes up when I use "vi" in Debian, and it's *very* different in ubuntu.  Is there a way to get the setup that's in Debian instead?
[20:43] <leftyfb> slidinghorn: try installing vim
[20:44] <slidinghorn> leftyfb: do I have to set an alias turning "vi" into "vim"?
[20:44] <leftyfb> no
[20:44] <Absolute0> My cron job doesn't seem to run. How do I debug the issue?
[20:44] <howudodat> TJ- how can I enable verbose logging for upower I dont see anything obvious for that :(
[20:45] <leftyfb> Absolute0: look in /var/log/syslog
[20:46] <Absolute0> leftyfb: what am I looking for? I looked there
[20:46] <OerHeks> sudo grep -i cron /var/log/syslog
[20:46] <leftyfb> Absolute0: look for CRON
[20:46] <Absolute0> don't see any issues
[20:46] <pcazman> my sound (alsa) mostly comes up as thinking I have the headset plugged in. The speaker is muted. when I unmute it, my sound does not work. any sugestions?
[20:46] <bodie__> does anyone know how to configure pacmd to load a particular module for a particular device on startup?
[20:46] <Absolute0> how do I ensure that crontab -e for a regular user is run?
[20:46] <leftyfb> Absolute0: what is the link in your crontab?
[20:47] <Absolute0> 0 */6 * * * /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/ENV/bin/python /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/manage.py export_items
[20:47] <Absolute0> do cronjobs timeout?
[20:48] <leftyfb> gross, why are you running your own python?
[20:48] <TJ-> howudodat: in a terminal before starting the lid-close event, you could try "upower --monitor-detail"
[20:48] <Absolute0> leftyfb: I need python3
[20:48] <leftyfb> so install python3
[20:49] <Absolute0> I doubt that's the problem
[20:49] <Absolute0> I also need the virtualenv
[20:49] <Absolute0> Apr  9 12:00:01 ubuntu CRON[2855]: (ramin) CMD (/home/ramin/buybulkamerica/ENV/bin/python /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/manage.py export_items)
[20:49] <Absolute0> How do I know if the command succeeded?
[20:50] <Absolute0> There are no errors in syslog
[20:50] <leftyfb> Absolute0: you write debug code in your script
[20:50] <Absolute0> It works when I run it manually
[20:50] <Absolute0> Does cron kill the script if it takes too long?
[20:50] <Absolute0> I think this script takes 30 min to run
[20:51] <Absolute0> also which user runs cron jobs?
[20:51] <leftyfb> and you have it running every 10 minutes?
[20:52] <leftyfb> Absolute0: whichever user you ran crontab -e as
[20:52] <Absolute0> leftyfb: every 6 hours
[20:52] <Absolute0>  0 */6 * * *
[20:52] <leftyfb> oh right
[20:52] <leftyfb> so wait a half hour?
[20:52] <leftyfb> or put in debug code
[20:53] <leftyfb> the debug code will certainly be the better choice
[20:53] <Absolute0> what should I be debugging?
[20:54] <Absolute0> Apr  9 12:00:01 ubuntu CRON[2855]: (ramin) CMD (/home/ramin/buybulkamerica/ENV/bin/python /home/ramin/buybulkamerica/manage.py export_items)
[20:54] <Absolute0> It ran today
[20:54] <Absolute0> but it didn't do anything
[20:54] <leftyfb> Absolute0: add print statements and/or write out to a log at each section of your code
[20:54] <Absolute0> where will the print appear?
[20:58] <confluency> Redirect the output to a file?
[21:11] <Me233> `åÁÐWiÓÂODÂKYïK6B¨ÄÀÛt×pßy¸lÏTW
[21:12] <leftyfb> this again
[21:12] <Marquezini> Me233, fumo maconha desgraça
[21:12] <leftyfb> Marquezini: what language are they trying to speak?
[21:12] <leftyfb> their ip says Russia
[21:12] <tonyt> "english mother fucker, do you speak it?"
[21:12] <tonyt> lol
[21:12] <Marquezini> are a motherfucker
[21:13] <Bashing-om> !language
[21:13] <Marquezini> Me233, da onde você é filho de uma puta!!!
[21:13] <leftyfb> !op | Me233
[21:13] <leftyfb> Marquezini: please don't add to the garbage
[21:14] <Marquezini> !op teste
[21:14] <leftyfb> please don't
[21:14] <Marquezini> !op | leftyfb
[21:14] <Marquezini> lol
[21:14] <tonyt> good way to get yourselfs banned
[21:15] <Marquezini> lol
[21:15] <Marquezini> good good goodbye
[21:15] <leftyfb> tonyt: I used it legitimately
[21:15] <leftyfb> as I usually do
[21:15] <tonyt> ya talken about the dude who left :)
[21:20] <Draconiator> Is it possible to clone a virtual hard disk to a real hard disk?  Using Xubuntu now via virtual machine and I'm setting it up for my netbook.
[21:20] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[21:21] <dury> got this motherboard https://www.asus.com/es/Motherboards/P5BVM_DO/specifications/ 3GB RAM, 500GB HD, audacity installed running ubuntu 16.04.3, connected to this mixer https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/UB1622FXPRO--behringer-eurorack-ub1622fx-pro, and I'm not available record channels simultaneously. Do I need an extra device like "Audio interface"?
[21:29] <vlt> Draconiator: Yes, it’s possible. Mind that in the virtual machine you might have a different boot mechanism or a minimal kernel installed only.
[21:38] <gogeta> the world is ending
[21:38] <gogeta> lol
[21:40] <leftyfb> gogeta: can we help you with something ubuntu related?
[21:47] <Me233> `¸ÿÐWlchóÍYÂ
[21:47] <Flannel> !ru | Me233
[21:51] <leftyfb> can we make that perm?
[21:51] <slidinghorn> do I even want to know what they said?  Assuming it was pretty bad for an instaban
[21:55] <confluency> It's a bot; it's been spamming the channel.
[21:56] <gogeta> confluence_, i call hacks
[21:58] <electromagnetism> Wish Id get banned sometime no OP on this channel I guess
[22:01] <gogeta> electromagnetism, some ops are more tolrent
[22:06] <electromagnetism> gogeta: That's good nothing worse than a hypersensitive op when your in the middle of actually trying to help someone out or something humm, ok me be quiet now... tc
[22:06] <mices> can i install 18.04 on an android tablet
[22:11] <Jordan_U> mices: I expect that depends on the specific tablet, and likely will be at least somewhat of a pain on almost any tablet (unless you just want terminal based tools through termux).
[22:27] <slidinghorn> mices: there's also #ubports, which may be able to help you better than we can here
[22:34] <Marquezini> HI!
[22:34] <Joel> is anyone aware of a launcher for unity that will let you remove the trash bar, and pin icons to the right? and/or expand programs, so it shows all running windows?
[23:16] <seth> I am having trouble configuring my Qemu VM to have good  DPC latency. If I use 2 CPUs, it works perfectly since Windows can only interrupt with 2 CPUs. I have them off the Linux kernel as well. Any suggestions to improve it?
[23:41] <luxio> how come I was able to SFTP using FileZilla and it didn't ask for an SSH key or the password for it?
[23:42] <luxio> is it because I recently SSHd on the command line so it's cached?
[23:43] <akik> luxio: your key probably doesn't have a passphrase(?)
[23:43] <luxio> it does
[23:44] <akik> luxio: does it always ask it normally?
[23:44] <luxio> this is the first time i've opened filezilla
[23:44] <luxio> i typed in the server address and "root"
[23:44] <luxio> pressed connect and it let me in
[23:45] <akik> luxio: when using the key with ssh, does it ask for the passphrase?
[23:45] <luxio> on the command line yea
[23:46] <akik> luxio: and you use the exact same key with filezilla?
[23:46] <luxio> i didnt give it a key
[23:46] <luxio> it just let me in
[23:46] <akik> luxio: ok you have other problems then :)
[23:46] <luxio> didnt type a password or anything lol
[23:46] <akik> luxio: please disable remote root access
[23:47] <Budgii> Is there an application like remote desktop on linux?
[23:47] <akik> Budgii: vnc, xrdp, x2go
[23:47] <Budgii> perrrfect thanks
[23:48] <akik> Budgii: ubuntu has something built-in
[23:48] <luxio> Budgii: first results when you google 'linux remote desktop'
[23:48] <black_13> how do I mount a windows share but not as root using cifs
[23:48] <leftyfb> black_13: why not as root using cifs?
[23:49] <black_13> the mount is a git remote
[23:49] <black_13> when i try to push to it things go awry
[23:51] <akik> black_13: have you read you could use a cifs server with git? do you mount the share first or how?
[23:53] <Budgii> akik, do I need PuTTY to use xrdp?
[23:54] <akik> Budgii: you'll use mstsc as your client
[23:54] <akik> mstsc.exe
[23:54] <Budgii> Im on RPi right now. I download it here?
[23:54] <akik> Budgii: ah ok. rdesktop then
[23:54] <leftyfb> Budgii: you're using Raspbian correct?
[23:55] <Budgii> yes leftyfb
[23:55] <leftyfb> Budgii: are you running ubuntu on your computer?
[23:55] <Budgii> Yeah
[23:55] <leftyfb> then you don't need putty
[23:55] <Budgii> cool
[23:55] <leftyfb> Budgii: just open a terminal and use ssh
[23:55] <leftyfb> for ssh
[23:55] <akik> leftyfb: he wants a gui access
[23:55] <leftyfb> for remote desktop, use something like remmina for your client
[23:56] <Budgii> yes would like GUI access