| xubuntu33w | I am having trouble installing Xubuntu 16.04 from a USB on my Dell Inspiron 1501. I first wiped the entire drive with DBAN. I than downloaded the Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit torrent from the Xubuntu.org website. Thereafter, IO used BitTorrent to create my torrent, which I than installed on my USB drive using RUFUS. For some reason the Dell does not want to boot from the USB. Gives me some errors re: APCI, etc. than screen essentially go | 02:15 |
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| ball | xubuntu33w: Do you have access to another Linux PC? | 02:24 |
| xubuntu33w | I do not. Why do you ask? | 02:47 |
| ball | xubuntu33w: It might have been a cleaner way to prepare the USB flash drive | 02:48 |
| ball | I don't know what options Rufus provides. | 02:48 |
| ball | ...I'm guessing you want something equivalent to "dd", where it just dumps the image block-for-block onto the USB flash drive. | 02:49 |
| xubuntu33w | Not sure what I'm looking for:-). Somewhat of a newby. I had this old Dell around that was not running well and thought I would rehab it for my kids. Did some reading and came across Linux/Xubuntu, so here I am. I have never installed/used a Linux system previously. | 02:52 |
| xubuntu33w | I basically wanted to install Xubuntu onto the Dell, and thought the procedure I noted in my original post was the way to go, but am hitting a wall. I even tried a different USB stick, as I had read that some people have had success swapping one for another. | 02:53 |
| ball | Xubuntu is a great choice for young PC users in my experience. | 02:56 |
| ball | I've just put it on my daughter's PC again. | 02:56 |
| xubuntu33w | I know. That is what I have read. Which is why I am all the more frustrated:-). I'm no techie . . . but not an idiot either! Maybe Rufus is not the way to go . . . or maybe not BitTorrent?? If you are aware of another procedure/protocol for installing Xubuntu I am more than willing to try. ? Link | 02:58 |
| ball | It sounds as though you did this on Windows and I don't have any Windows PCs around to try things on. Let me see whether I can get a checksum for the .iso image, at least. | 03:00 |
| xubuntu33w | Yes . . . I did this on a Windows 10 machine. Not sure what a ' | 03:03 |
| xubuntu33w | "checksum" is . . . | 03:03 |
| ball | It's a way to tell whether a file reached you intact. | 03:03 |
| xubuntu33w | or how it would help me, that is | 03:04 |
| ball | The larger the file, the more chance there is for something to go wrong during the download (though if you used bittorrent, that may be less of an issue) | 03:04 |
| xubuntu33w | Oh . . . ok. | 03:04 |
| ball | ...but then you're on Windows and I have no idea what, if any, checksumming tools that ships with. | 03:05 |
| ball | When you launch Rufus, what does it ask you? | 03:06 |
| ball | Oh! On the Dell, did you press F12 when you saw the Dell splash screen? | 03:06 |
| xubuntu33w | As you know . . . I wiped the hard drive completely clean with DBAN, soooo . . . When I power it on, I get some DOS text telling me "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable. PXE-MOF: Exiting Broadcom PXE Rom. Operating sytem not found." Than seems to get hung up a bit | 03:11 |
| ball | That's just the Dell trying to boot from the network. | 03:12 |
| ball | F12 should give you the option of a boot menu. | 03:12 |
| xubuntu33w | Yes it does. And when I choose USB drive, it looks like it is about to do something (little image of a USB stick and man at the bottom) but than displays some DOS text re: ACPI parse method error . . . or something like that - before screen transitions to black with vertical multicolor lines | 03:15 |
| * ball nods | 03:29 | |
| ball | You may need to change an option in the CMOS setup program but without that in front of me, it's not easy to guess where you'd have to look | 03:30 |
| ball | What processor's in the laptop? | 03:31 |
| xubuntu33w | AMD Turion 64 x2. This link seems to describe my problem exactly: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2283568. Only problem is I do not understand how to implement to proposed solution. | 03:35 |
| ball | If Xubuntu has an "alternate" (non-graphical installation) image, you could try that. | 03:39 |
| ball | ...otherwise there seem to be incantations you can type at boot: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535 | 03:39 |
| ball | Have you considered a newer version? | 03:40 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu no longer carries the alt ISOs, best bet for that route is mini. | 03:42 |
| xubuntu33w | What do you mean a newer version? A newer version of Xubuntu? And what is 'mini'? | 03:44 |
| ball | Thanks Unit193 | 03:46 |
| xubuntu33w | Unforunately have to go. Thank you for your help, ball. | 03:52 |
| ball | xubuntu33w: You're welcome. Check back here because you're bound to find someone who has more answers. | 03:55 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu33w: Ah sorry, that's the minimal installation disk, it downloads everything off the net during install rather than unsquashing a squashfs (compressed filesystem) | 04:01 |
| sm0rux | Hi! After upgrading to LibreOffice 6.0.3.2 the LibreOffice Start Center disappeared. Using Xubuntu 16.04. Any solution to get it back? | 17:07 |
| sovtware | tu można po polsku ? :) | 17:43 |
| brian_wilson | is there anybody that can give me a little hand? | 19:13 |
| knome | brian_wilson, try asking the real question and find out? | 19:28 |
| brian_wilson | that could work, let's see: | 19:29 |
| brian_wilson | since I've installed xubuntu, I have noticed strange transparent borders on a couple of windows (not all of them), and it's really bugging me, I wish I could understand why it is happening, and maybe fix it... can I send a print that I've posted on imgur here? | 19:29 |
| knome | absolutely | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | https://imgur.com/a/yo384 | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | the calculator is one of the few that has this problem | 19:30 |
| knome | which gtk theme are you using? | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | this is numix | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | nono | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | sorry | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | just a sec | 19:30 |
| brian_wilson | Adwaita | 19:31 |
| knome | and your xubuntu version is what? | 19:31 |
| brian_wilson | just realized it disappears if I change it to Raleigh | 19:32 |
| brian_wilson | 17.10 | 19:32 |
| brian_wilson | no, I'm sorry, it doesn't actually | 19:32 |
| brian_wilson | it just gets really small | 19:32 |
| knome | i'm pretty sure this happens with gtk3 apps | 19:32 |
| brian_wilson | I see | 19:32 |
| knome | do you have something in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css? | 19:33 |
| brian_wilson | nothing | 19:33 |
| brian_wilson | I mean, there isn't a gtk.css file | 19:34 |
| knome | i'm pretty sure this is essentially the same issue as https://github.com/numixproject/numix-gtk-theme/issues/206 (link has ideas for fixes) | 19:35 |
| knome | though it's *really* weird that it happens with adwaita since it's the default gtk3 theme | 19:35 |
| knome | do you have some PPAs or have you done any modifications to your system that might be related in any way to this appearance issue? | 19:36 |
| brian_wilson | no, I really haven't, I installed the system it's been a month or so | 19:36 |
| brian_wilson | perhaps the file I need to change is the one in /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-3.0/? | 19:37 |
| knome | no | 19:37 |
| knome | the one i referred to is a user-specific override file | 19:37 |
| knome | the one you are mentioning is the one provided by the theme | 19:37 |
| knome | in case there is ever an update for the theme, then you would lose your changes | 19:38 |
| knome | besides, doing the change in ~ is better when you want to try if any of the proposed workarounds even work :) | 19:39 |
| brian_wilson | alright, makes sense ahahahah | 19:40 |
| brian_wilson | ok, the change didn't immediately fix it, I'm gonna try rebooting | 19:44 |
| brian_wilson | knome, just to let you know, after rebooting, the problem persists | 19:48 |
| brian_wilson | it just changed the window borders a bit | 19:48 |
| brian_wilson | but that transparent border's still there | 19:49 |
| brian_wilson | but I won't bother about that anymore hahah | 19:49 |
| knome | brian_wilson, you could also see if it happens with greybird, the default theme | 19:53 |
| brian_wilson | same thing | 19:55 |
| brian_wilson | sorry, I always forget to answer mentioning your username, knome | 19:55 |
| knome | no problem | 19:56 |
| knome | brian_wilson, what is your window manager theme? | 19:56 |
| brian_wilson | greybird | 19:57 |
| knome | ochosi, ping | 19:57 |
| brian_wilson | knome, I tried changing it to whatever other theme I had and made no difference | 19:58 |
| brian_wilson | as well | 19:58 |
| brian_wilson | I thought this could be something really simple, but I think I'm ready now to live with it, it's not that much of a deal | 19:59 |
| knome | it'd be nice to know what is causing that so we do not have it appear again | 20:00 |
| knome | maybe if i was able to summon ochosi it could be a quick fix.. | 20:00 |
| brian_wilson | I'll show up some other time to talk to him, then. I'll have to leave now, gotta go to college | 20:03 |
| brian_wilson | thanks for the help | 20:03 |
| brian_wilson | and the attention | 20:04 |
| knome | no problem and have a nice day | 20:04 |
| brian_wilson | thanks, you too | 20:04 |
| ochosi | knome: pong | 20:24 |
| ochosi | ah right, the screenshot | 20:26 |
| ochosi | not a theming issue for sure | 20:26 |
| ochosi | i dunno what version of xubuntu that should have been, but it looks like xfwm4 before it got support for client side decorations | 20:27 |
| albinard | dipping in a toe for the first time | 20:38 |
| noob | I have a question iso is the same as iso archive correct ? | 23:26 |
| Kumool | what's an iso archive? | 23:27 |
| Kumool | noob, you can open it as an archive yes | 23:28 |
| noob | it is empty lookin into it after extracting it | 23:28 |
| Kumool | noob, are you in ubuntu? | 23:29 |
| Kumool | noob, you can mount it | 23:29 |
| Kumool | in thunar | 23:29 |
| Kumool | right click and select mount | 23:29 |
| noob | no windows try to set it up on a pendrive using rufus | 23:29 |
| Kumool | oh dear | 23:29 |
| Kumool | i just did that in xubuntu, it was a PITA | 23:30 |
| Kumool | 7-zip will let you see it inside, mounting it in windows i think you need daemontools | 23:31 |
| noob | so if create a bootable drive using rufus that will work ? | 23:31 |
| noob | The iso archive | 23:32 |
| Kumool | if you opened it using 7-zip and it was empty, then the file is probably empty | 23:33 |
| noob | looked insideht boot file there is "efi.img" | 23:34 |
| Kumool | try a hash check first | 23:34 |
| noob | i downloaded it from a mirror | 23:37 |
| Kumool | its bootable | 23:39 |
| Kumool | https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0 | 23:40 |
| noob | ahhh looked it up archive is the same a iso image | 23:42 |
| noob | thank you for the link | 23:43 |
| Kumool | you're welcome, i had to since i cant help | 23:43 |
| noob | yeah I am learning too | 23:43 |
| Kumool | i'm learning from another way XD | 23:44 |
| noob | I am trying to install linux on a labtop i5 i think 3000 somthing I forgot the specs | 23:44 |
| Kumool | as in, trying to install windows from ubuntu using a pendrive | 23:44 |
| noob | how are you doing it going to the windows creation tool ? | 23:45 |
| Kumool | the specs are the most important part noob | 23:45 |
| noob | it has 4 gbs of ram so I was looking it up amd64 iso was the recommanded one | 23:46 |
| noob | it is taking so long to make teh pen drive | 23:46 |
| noob | i decied to let it check for bac sectors | 23:46 |
| Kumool | i had to install ms-sys, format it as ntfs, set it as bootable, use ms-sys to create the boot manager or... w\e its called and select the correct OS, then i had to install VMBOX because i got tired of rebooting the device to see if it worked, which was another headache its hard for vmbox to mount a physical pendrive on a virtual machine | 23:47 |
| Kumool | well, it could have 4gb of ram installed, the question is if it runs with em | 23:48 |
| noob | vm wouldnt that use quite a bit of resource ? | 23:48 |
| noob | how will I know if it does is their a terminal command or will it tell me once it starts up from the pen drive ? | 23:48 |
| Kumool | it does, but if you want to see if the pendrive actually worked (quickly), you gotta use it | 23:49 |
| Kumool | but that's if rufus doesnt work, which i doubt will fail | 23:49 |
| noob | xubuntu has less bloatware on it compared to ubuntu right ? | 23:50 |
| Kumool | are you wiping the PC you're using now? | 23:50 |
| Kumool | it is leaner yes | 23:50 |
| noob | nope trying a labtop | 23:51 |
| noob | I saved the windows key jsut in case | 23:51 |
| Kumool | mm | 23:51 |
| Kumool | if the key is the preinstalled one, its not going to work | 23:51 |
| noob | my old techy friend ripped me off with labtop but it is good to learn with | 23:51 |
| noob | what do you mean ? | 23:52 |
| Kumool | i do hope someone corrects me on this, but preinstalled windows keys only work on that preinstalled windows | 23:52 |
| noob | i used a program called keyfinder | 23:52 |
| noob | it is different from the actualy one on the labtop which is weird | 23:53 |
| Kumool | well, hopefully it works | 23:53 |
| noob | now got ot figure out how to launch from usb haha | 23:54 |
| Kumool | just put it on, reboot, press f12 and select boot from usb | 23:54 |
| Kumool | if it boots you're good if not then something got messed up | 23:55 |
| noob | it worked but an error showed up first | 23:56 |
| Kumool | what was it? | 23:56 |
| noob | disappeared | 23:57 |
| Kumool | oh well, unimportant then | 23:57 |
| noob | 3would you recommand lvm for install ? | 23:58 |
| Kumool | mm | 23:59 |
| Kumool | dont know what that is | 23:59 |
| Kumool | ask in #ubuntu | 23:59 |
| noob | it is all good I do not need anything from the labtop anyways | 23:59 |
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