[02:15] <xubuntu33w> I am having trouble installing Xubuntu 16.04 from a USB on my Dell Inspiron 1501. I first wiped the entire drive with DBAN. I than downloaded the Xubuntu 16.04 64-bit torrent from the Xubuntu.org website. Thereafter, IO used BitTorrent to create my torrent, which I than installed on my USB drive using RUFUS. For some reason the Dell does not want to boot from the USB. Gives me some errors re: APCI, etc. than screen essentially go
[02:24] <ball> xubuntu33w: Do you have access to another Linux PC?
[02:47] <xubuntu33w> I do not. Why do you ask?
[02:48] <ball> xubuntu33w: It might have been a cleaner way to prepare the USB flash drive
[02:48] <ball> I don't know what options Rufus provides.
[02:49] <ball> ...I'm guessing you want something equivalent to "dd", where it just dumps the image block-for-block onto the USB flash drive.
[02:52] <xubuntu33w> Not sure what I'm looking for:-). Somewhat of a newby. I had this old Dell around that was not running well and thought I would rehab it for my kids. Did some reading and came across Linux/Xubuntu, so here I am. I have never installed/used a Linux system previously.
[02:53] <xubuntu33w> I basically wanted to install Xubuntu onto the Dell, and thought the procedure I noted in my original post was the way to go, but am hitting a wall. I even tried a different USB stick, as I had read that some people have had success swapping one for another.
[02:56] <ball> Xubuntu is a great choice for young PC users in my experience.
[02:56] <ball> I've just put it on my daughter's PC again.
[02:58] <xubuntu33w> I know. That is what I have read. Which is why I am all the more frustrated:-). I'm no techie . . . but not an idiot either! Maybe Rufus is not the way to go . . . or maybe not BitTorrent?? If you are aware of another procedure/protocol for installing Xubuntu I am more than willing to try. ? Link
[03:00] <ball> It sounds as though you did this on Windows and I don't have any Windows PCs around to try things on.  Let me see whether I can get a checksum for the .iso image, at least.
[03:03] <xubuntu33w> Yes . . . I did this on a Windows 10 machine. Not sure what a '
[03:03] <xubuntu33w> "checksum" is . . .
[03:03] <ball> It's a way to tell whether a file reached you intact.
[03:04] <xubuntu33w> or how it would help me, that is
[03:04] <ball> The larger the file, the more chance there is for something to go wrong during the download (though if you used bittorrent, that may be less of an issue)
[03:04] <xubuntu33w> Oh . . . ok.
[03:05] <ball> ...but then you're on Windows and I have no idea what, if any, checksumming tools that ships with.
[03:06] <ball> When you launch Rufus, what does it ask you?
[03:06] <ball> Oh!  On the Dell, did you press F12 when you saw the Dell splash screen?
[03:11] <xubuntu33w> As you know . . . I wiped the hard drive completely clean with DBAN, soooo . . . When I power it on, I get some DOS text telling me "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable. PXE-MOF: Exiting Broadcom PXE Rom. Operating sytem not found." Than seems to get hung up a bit
[03:12] <ball> That's just the Dell trying to boot from the network.
[03:12] <ball> F12 should give you the option of a boot menu.
[03:15] <xubuntu33w> Yes it does. And when I choose USB drive, it looks like it is about to do something (little image of a USB stick and man at the bottom) but than displays some DOS text re: ACPI parse method error . . . or something like that - before screen transitions to black with vertical multicolor lines
[03:29]  * ball nods
[03:30] <ball> You may need to change an option in the CMOS setup program but without that in front of me, it's not easy to guess where you'd have to look
[03:31] <ball> What processor's in the laptop?
[03:35] <xubuntu33w> AMD Turion 64 x2. This link seems to describe my problem exactly: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2283568. Only problem is I do not understand how to implement to proposed solution.
[03:39] <ball> If Xubuntu has an "alternate" (non-graphical installation) image, you could try that.
[03:39] <ball> ...otherwise there seem to be incantations you can type at boot: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535
[03:40] <ball> Have you considered a newer version?
[03:42] <Unit193> Xubuntu no longer carries the alt ISOs, best bet for that route is mini.
[03:44] <xubuntu33w> What do you mean a newer version? A newer version of Xubuntu? And what is 'mini'?
[03:46] <ball> Thanks Unit193
[03:52] <xubuntu33w> Unforunately have to go. Thank you for your help, ball.
[03:55] <ball> xubuntu33w: You're welcome.  Check back here because you're bound to find someone who has more answers.
[04:01] <Unit193> xubuntu33w: Ah sorry, that's the minimal installation disk, it downloads everything off the net during install rather than unsquashing a squashfs (compressed filesystem)
[17:07] <sm0rux> Hi! After upgrading to LibreOffice 6.0.3.2 the LibreOffice Start Center disappeared. Using Xubuntu 16.04. Any solution to get it back?
[17:43] <sovtware> tu można po polsku ? :)
[19:13] <brian_wilson> is there anybody that can give me a little hand?
[19:28] <knome> brian_wilson, try asking the real question and find out?
[19:29] <brian_wilson> that could work, let's see:
[19:29] <brian_wilson> since I've installed xubuntu, I have noticed strange transparent borders on a couple of windows (not all of them), and it's really bugging me, I wish I could understand why it is happening, and maybe fix it... can I send a print that I've posted on imgur here?
[19:30] <knome> absolutely
[19:30] <brian_wilson> https://imgur.com/a/yo384
[19:30] <brian_wilson> the calculator is one of the few that has this problem
[19:30] <knome> which gtk theme are you using?
[19:30] <brian_wilson> this is numix
[19:30] <brian_wilson> nono
[19:30] <brian_wilson> sorry
[19:30] <brian_wilson> just a sec
[19:31] <brian_wilson> Adwaita
[19:31] <knome> and your xubuntu version is what?
[19:32] <brian_wilson> just realized it disappears if I change it to Raleigh
[19:32] <brian_wilson> 17.10
[19:32] <brian_wilson> no, I'm sorry, it doesn't actually
[19:32] <brian_wilson> it just gets really small
[19:32] <knome> i'm pretty sure this happens with gtk3 apps
[19:32] <brian_wilson> I see
[19:33] <knome> do you have something in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css?
[19:33] <brian_wilson> nothing
[19:34] <brian_wilson> I mean, there isn't a gtk.css file
[19:35] <knome> i'm pretty sure this is essentially the same issue as https://github.com/numixproject/numix-gtk-theme/issues/206 (link has ideas for fixes)
[19:35] <knome> though it's *really* weird that it happens with adwaita since it's the default gtk3 theme
[19:36] <knome> do you have some PPAs or have you done any modifications to your system that might be related in any way to this appearance issue?
[19:36] <brian_wilson> no, I really haven't, I installed the system it's been a month or so
[19:37] <brian_wilson> perhaps the file I need to change is the one in /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-3.0/?
[19:37] <knome> no
[19:37] <knome> the one i referred to is a user-specific override file
[19:37] <knome> the one you are mentioning is the one provided by the theme
[19:38] <knome> in case there is ever an update for the theme, then you would lose your changes
[19:39] <knome> besides, doing the change in ~ is better when you want to try if any of the proposed workarounds even work :)
[19:40] <brian_wilson> alright, makes sense ahahahah
[19:44] <brian_wilson> ok, the change didn't immediately fix it, I'm gonna try rebooting
[19:48] <brian_wilson> knome, just to let you know, after rebooting, the problem persists
[19:48] <brian_wilson> it just changed the window borders a bit
[19:49] <brian_wilson> but that transparent border's still there
[19:49] <brian_wilson> but I won't bother about that anymore hahah
[19:53] <knome> brian_wilson, you could also see if it happens with greybird, the default theme
[19:55] <brian_wilson> same thing
[19:55] <brian_wilson> sorry, I always forget to answer mentioning your username, knome
[19:56] <knome> no problem
[19:56] <knome> brian_wilson, what is your window manager theme?
[19:57] <brian_wilson> greybird
[19:57] <knome> ochosi, ping
[19:58] <brian_wilson> knome, I tried changing it to whatever other theme I had and made no difference
[19:58] <brian_wilson> as well
[19:59] <brian_wilson> I thought this could be something really simple, but I think I'm ready now to live with it, it's not that much of a deal
[20:00] <knome> it'd be nice to know what is causing that so we do not have it appear again
[20:00] <knome> maybe if i was able to summon ochosi it could be a quick fix..
[20:03] <brian_wilson> I'll show up some other time to talk to him, then. I'll have to leave now, gotta go to college
[20:03] <brian_wilson> thanks for the help
[20:04] <brian_wilson> and the attention
[20:04] <knome> no problem and have a nice day
[20:04] <brian_wilson> thanks, you too
[20:24] <ochosi> knome: pong
[20:26] <ochosi> ah right, the screenshot
[20:26] <ochosi> not a theming issue for sure
[20:27] <ochosi> i dunno what version of xubuntu that should have been, but it looks like xfwm4 before it got support for client side decorations
[20:38] <albinard> dipping in a toe for the first time
[23:26] <noob> I have a question iso is the same as iso archive correct ?
[23:27] <Kumool> what's an iso archive?
[23:28] <Kumool> noob, you can open it as an archive yes
[23:28] <noob> it is empty lookin into it after extracting it
[23:29] <Kumool> noob, are you in ubuntu?
[23:29] <Kumool> noob, you can mount it
[23:29] <Kumool> in thunar
[23:29] <Kumool> right click and select mount
[23:29] <noob> no windows try to set it up on a pendrive using rufus
[23:29] <Kumool> oh dear
[23:30] <Kumool> i just did that in xubuntu, it was a PITA
[23:31] <Kumool> 7-zip will let you see it inside, mounting it in windows i think you need daemontools
[23:31] <noob> so if create a bootable drive using rufus that will work ?
[23:32] <noob> The iso archive
[23:33] <Kumool> if you opened it using 7-zip and it was empty, then the file is probably empty
[23:34] <noob> looked insideht boot file there is "efi.img"
[23:34] <Kumool> try a hash check first
[23:37] <noob> i downloaded it from a mirror
[23:39] <Kumool> its bootable
[23:40] <Kumool> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[23:42] <noob> ahhh looked it up archive is the same a iso image
[23:43] <noob> thank you for the link
[23:43] <Kumool> you're welcome, i had to since i cant help
[23:43] <noob> yeah I am learning too
[23:44] <Kumool> i'm learning from another way XD
[23:44] <noob> I am trying to install linux on a labtop i5 i think 3000 somthing I forgot the specs
[23:44] <Kumool> as in, trying to install windows from ubuntu using a pendrive
[23:45] <noob> how are you doing it going to the windows creation tool ?
[23:45] <Kumool> the specs are the most important part noob
[23:46] <noob> it has 4 gbs of ram so I was looking it up amd64 iso was the recommanded one
[23:46] <noob> it is taking so long to make teh pen drive
[23:46] <noob> i decied to let it check for bac sectors
[23:47] <Kumool> i had to install ms-sys, format it as ntfs, set it as bootable, use ms-sys to create the boot manager or... w\e its called and select the correct OS, then i had to install VMBOX because i got tired of rebooting the device to see if it worked, which was another headache its hard for vmbox to mount a physical pendrive on a virtual machine
[23:48] <Kumool> well, it could have 4gb of ram installed, the question is if it runs with em
[23:48] <noob> vm wouldnt that use quite a bit of resource ?
[23:48] <noob> how will I know if it does is their a terminal command or will it tell me once it starts up from the pen drive ?
[23:49] <Kumool> it does, but if you want to see if the pendrive actually worked (quickly), you gotta use it
[23:49] <Kumool> but that's if rufus doesnt work, which i doubt will fail
[23:50] <noob> xubuntu has less bloatware on it compared to ubuntu right ?
[23:50] <Kumool> are you wiping the PC you're using now?
[23:50] <Kumool> it is leaner yes
[23:51] <noob> nope trying a labtop
[23:51] <noob> I saved the windows key jsut in case
[23:51] <Kumool> mm
[23:51] <Kumool> if the key is the preinstalled one, its not going to work
[23:51] <noob> my old techy friend ripped me off with labtop but it is good to learn with
[23:52] <noob> what do you mean ?
[23:52] <Kumool> i do hope someone corrects me on this, but preinstalled windows keys only work on that preinstalled windows
[23:52] <noob> i used a program called keyfinder
[23:53] <noob> it is different from the actualy one on the labtop which is weird
[23:53] <Kumool> well, hopefully it works
[23:54] <noob> now got ot figure out how to launch from usb haha
[23:54] <Kumool> just put it on, reboot, press f12 and select boot from usb
[23:55] <Kumool> if it boots you're good if not then something got messed up
[23:56] <noob> it worked but an error showed up first
[23:56] <Kumool> what was it?
[23:57] <noob> disappeared
[23:57] <Kumool> oh well, unimportant then
[23:58] <noob> 3would you recommand lvm for install ?
[23:59] <Kumool> mm
[23:59] <Kumool> dont know what that is
[23:59] <Kumool> ask in #ubuntu
[23:59] <noob> it is all good I do not need anything from the labtop anyways