 @wayneoutthere, Sure :D post it on the news channel. i didnt think about that :)
 @wayneoutthere, Jep! I thats why i did a call out for dev help :)
 For this one "We also want to make a architecture overview of Ubuntu touch including sources and build instructions for the different parts that powers Ubuntu touch. This will both be nice for Developer and Users alike" This might be a nice thing for developers to get started with development, since right now there is no real info
[00:30] <ubptgbot>  on that is under the hood of ubuntu touch, this makes it really hard to know where to start, what part does what and where is the source
 @mariogrip, with an architecture overview I mean like, what does what. example how gps works "GPS uses ubuntu-location (src) service to get both geoclue and real gps data from the android hal using platform api and libhybris"
 maybe a fancy css js animations webpage showing the things under the hood, but now im just dreaming :P
 I wanted to give people here an update on my MMS issues if others have had the same problems. Recently I was having issues just getting cellular data to work when I inserted my GSM SIM card into my Nexus 5 running 15.03 (r3). What I did was change the Channel to "release candidate" then back to "stable" which allowed me to do
[02:09] <ubptgbot> wnload the stable version 'r3' again. I applied this update again (even though I was already on 'r3'). this quasi update fixed my cellular data issue AND fixed my MMS issues from before. With these facts I have concluded that there is some bug in the 'r3' update that caused my MMS issues and possible other issues related to SIM cards.
 and by Channel I am refering to the 'update channel' found in the update settings
 @UniversalSuperBox, Not really but I take a look. For some reason it does not understand that you merged the PR and again wants to merge 8 changes ;)
 @SaltyCybernaut, Yes, that's the workaround proposed in https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/376 Can you check out if that bug report or this https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/405 is relevant to your issue and add there your experience? Thank you
 Hi all, I'm contacting you to ask your help in installing Ubuntu Touch on OnePlus One. I using the UBports for installation, when I'm rebooting, I select the power + volume up button, I select reboot to bootloader but I get the screen on OnePlus "fastboot mode" with the Cyanogen icons but UBports does not allow me to go ahead with
[08:12] <ubptgbot> the installation. Any suggestions?
 @Giovanni, Helpful if you make a username in Telegram. We can then ping you and invite to the install room
 Ok
 Is there any place to easily read changelogs for 16.04 devel releases?
 @advocatux, No - I don't think so … You can read GitHub commits but this might not help 😜
 @unknown, lol that's why I said "easily" 😆
 @TronFortyTwo, ⬆️
 @unknown, Ah, Thank you!
 @advocatux, There was a discussion about automatic changelogs some weeks ago in this group - but it led to nothing
 👍
[09:53] <ubptgbot> Sam Eeer was added by: Sam Eeer
[09:53] <ubptgbot> <Sam Eeer> https://youtu.be/3kxlwXT6pmo
 Spam?
 GET HIM UBFR! @advocatux @Stereofont @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere
 Please, no more spam Sam, or face bam
 😂
 A reminder why you all should use 2FA at least. It's easy with @dohbee new app Authenticator … https://twitter.com/gvarisco/status/983628167872000001
 (A lot of VEVO accounts has been compromised)
 [Edit] A reminder. Why you all should use 2FA at least. It's easy with @dohbee new app Authenticator … https://twitter.com/gvarisco/status/983628167872000001
 (Even if the hack was done by other means, you still should use Authenticator 😉)
 Any news about the Ubuntu touch for nexus 5x?
[10:46] <ubptgbot> Markus was added by: Markus
 Welcome Markus !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 How is the development of 16.04 proceeding? It seems to be stopped a few days from the site...
 any minute now! stay on the edge of your seat
 @mariogrip, @GiovanniStaiano ⬆️
 @CapraNorvegese, Nope, it's a really problematic device
 @advocatux, Yea, also because of the 808
 @unknown, Thanks!
 It's a fucking furnace
 @CapraNorvegese, https://ubports.com/web/image/3413?access_token=28766e29-b11a-4d0e-941f-ed4f0016cb20
 it's a feature
 @YougoChats, But now it isn't winter
 you need a solution like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m30CmDpbN8g
 you can make toast any time of the year
 @YougoChats, You had my interest, now you have my attention
[11:57] <ubptgbot> woozy_wolf was added by: woozy_wolf
 @CapraNorvegese, Did someone say.... Toast?
 @YougoChats, Rolling on the floor yawning
 @wayneoutthere, pay attention, you might miss it
 Achoo! What was that? 16.04!
 @advocatux, I fully support this!
 So @Flohack, I just updated the porting section and updated translations... it changed literally every po-file.
 I don't know what to do about this. I don't think this is sustainable.
 @UniversalSuperBox, This will get interesting yes
 [Edit] I don't know what to do about this. I don't think it's sustainable.
 Welcome @woozy_wolf !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 @Bolly, Thank you very much. 😃
 Awrooooo!
[13:37] <ubptgbot> Evgeny_Safonshik was added by: Evgeny_Safonshik
 Welcome @Evgeny_Safonshik !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/T4gVXD8K.webp
 Does the bot have any function in this room?
 it's the irc bridge, no?
 the ping@ubports_bot command has no function though
 @CapraNorvegese, Friend even i m waiting eagerly for ubuntu touch for my 5x.
 @CapraNorvegese, LG shall be punished for putting paper instead of thermopads in those phones
 Is there any possibility/app/whatever to manage addressbooks in UT? For example, if I have 2 or 3 addressbooks on my phone and want to edit/remove them etc ?
 there's only the local addressbook, unless you add accounts like google in online accounts. you can toggle access to the contacts for those accounts in online accounts by tapping on each account, which gives you a list of apps that have access to the account
[16:00] <ubptgbot> ignorare was added by: ignorare
 Guys, how much time does the UBports-Installer usually need?
 several minutes, depending on network speed
 Since 10 minutes "Pushing file 1 from 13", that can't be normal?
 @dohbee, Download was finished and ran into error.
 The program requestes: Try again or report bug. I tried again...
 Now it seems to stuck.
 what OS?
 @dohbee, [Edit] Download of all 13 files was finished and ran into error.
 @dohbee, Debian
 quit the installer and try running it with sudo
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/DON3NC3p.png
 @dohbee, I run it as root already...
 oh ok
 not sure then
 Shit...
 Cancelling is not a good option I guess?
 i'd say join @WelcomePlus as that's where install help is usually given
 Okay, thanks!
 I will cancel the installer now...
 Waiting too long already, no?
 yes, if it's stuck no point keeping it stuck
 @ignorare do you have fastboot installed? I got stuck on "pushing file 1 ..." a while back and is was due to not having fastboot
 @DanChapman, I did not install adb, maybe because of that?
 I only installed android-tools-fastboot...
 yeah you will need adb.
 Whats the name of the other one? Android-tools-adb, right?
 yep
 Oh, both already installed I saw right now...
 android-tools-fastboot and android-tools-adb in newest version...
 Started the installer again, now it works!
 😊
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/qA0p6FLj.png
 What should I do on the phone?
 Nothing and waiting until its finished?
 yep just let it run it's course. It should reboot on it's ownb and eventually you will see the setup wizard on the phone
 Works!
 Setup-wizard is there!
 Okay great!
 @DanChapman, [Edit] Maybe I did not install adb, maybe because of that?
 [Edit] I thought I only installed android-tools-fastboot...
 Thank you Dan!
 @ignorare, WOOT! WOOT!!
 😉
 [Edit] Oh, both were already installed I saw right now...
 Thank you very much guys!! 👍
 @ignorare, Is that a port or a known device?
 @ignorare, [Edit] Is that a port or a supported device?
 @gsilvapt, yes. the installer dosen't work with unsupported devices
 Hum, not even when porting is successful?
 not until it becomes a supported device with image builds hosted on system-image.ubports.com
 And that usually is a long process or not quite?
 i don't think it's a particularly refined process yet
 ie, it's not something core devs have been concentrating on making smooth yet, afaik
 Yes, I see.
 i think it's more important to get 16.04 stable first
 now you can see how much the welcome room filters from the supergroup.  Don't forget to hug your UBFR Team today ;)
 @wayneoutthere, 😘👍
 I rank UBFR guys at the very top of importance...
 entry point into UT
 You are brilliant 🤩👍 … /hug_UBFR_Team
[19:00] <akk> Hi, all! Someone is trying to talk me into trying ubuntu touch/ubuports, and I'm shopping nexus 5
[19:01] <akk> but I can't tell from the ubuports device list: is a nexus 5x different from a 5? Will a 5x work as well as a 5?
 @akk, Nexus 5 is a supported device but 5x it isn't. The latter is under development but is facing more problems than normal
[19:04] <akk> Glad I asked!
 LG d820 or d821 nexus 5 16 or 32 GB
 anything else is not a nexus 5
[19:05] <akk> Okay, I'll try looking for d820 (I'm in the US so I think that's the right one).
 yes, d820 is what i have sitting on my desk
[19:07] <akk> Does a d820 work okay with verizon frequencies? I seem to get mixed answers when I search.
 Can someone connect me with the person who made the UBPorts website?
 @akk, I have no idea about Verizon
[19:11] <akk> Most ebay listings for d820 say GSM only. Looks like I'm out of luck.
[19:11] <akk> Are there any tablets (wifi only) that work well, if I just want to experiment with ubu touch and write apps?
[19:12] <akk> I see a 10" listed on the website, hoping for something smaller.
 BQ m10 and m10 FHD http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 [Edit] BQ m10 HD and m10 FHD http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 and Nexus 7 (2013) I think
 [Edit] and Nexus 7 (2013) I believe
[19:15] <akk> I noticed nexus 7 was on the device list at the old ubuntu site, but it doesn't seem to be mentioned at all at http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices#/
 @akk, i think @UniversalSuperBox is using a nexus 5 on vzn. not sure what the speifics are of that, though
 @akk, to just experiment and write apps, you might be able to install the x86 unity8 builds on 16.04 in a qemu/kvm, for testing.
[19:18] <akk> True, but one of the apps I have is a mapping app, and GPS usually doesn't work well in emulators.
 assuming your PC hardware has virtualization support (and you're running linux). i'm not sure how well it works under other VMs on other OSes
[19:18] <akk> (my mapping app doesn't currently support GPS, but if I could get a linux phone or tablet, I'd want that)
[19:19] <akk> And actually, none of my current computers has hardware virtualization anyway. :( I can do virtualbox but probably not the in-kernel ones (I am running linux).
 you might want to take a look at uNav then
 https://open-store.io/app/navigator.costales
[19:20] <akk> I'll look at that, thanks. Didn't know there was anything for that on linux.
 what mapping app are you referring to that doesn't have gps support?
 afaik, the gnome maps app does have gps
[19:21] <akk> (have to go afk for a bit, BIAB)
 @Zack, sure. PM me and I can help you. :)
 @dohbee, Nope. Verizon blacklisted it.
 oh
 blacklisted Nexus 5 or Ubuntu Touch?
 blacklisted his IMEI i guess
 The Nexus 5
 USA is crazy, I could use device even with zeros IMEI here
 It should work, it just doesn't.
 All 5's are like that.
 oh
 does hardware allow you to set whatever IMEI you like?
 but your 5x works on vzn?
 Yep
 @NotKit, Maybe, but I'm not too interested in doing that
 with most MediaTek's it's done by simple AT command
 i don't think it's blacklisted then
 [Edit] with most MediaTeks it's done by simple AT command
 5X =/= 5
 Everyone lists the Nexus 5 as "not working" on Verizon. Tons of forum threads asking "Why does my Nexus 5 not work on Verizon?"
 right
 which 5x model do you have? 790 or 791?
 Bah, "About" only says it's a Nexus 5X
 The one for the US.
[20:04] <ubptgbot> yomuz was added by: yomuz
[20:07] <akk> That's useful to know, thanks, @UniSuperBox. Sounds like I should wait for the 5x if I need verizon.
 haha https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/3jihcj/why_am_i_able_to_connect_my_nexus_5_to_verizon_lte/
 someone asking why it works, rather than why it doesn't
 oh well :-/
[20:33] <ubptgbot> torfix was added by: torfix
 Welcome @yomuz and @torfix !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 @Bolly, ty :)
 Is the desktop Unity 8 usable as a daily driver? It's so goddamn sexy
 as long as you don't drive too much i guess
 but generally speaking, not really :-/
 Meh, and I wanted to do an Ubuntu custom install with EFISTUB >~>
 And I don't like gnome in general
 use unity 7 then?
 Is it on the newest releases? Or just the LTS?
[20:53] <ubptgbot> juakote was added by: juakote
 it's in universe repo in 18.04
 oh
 good
 I liked unity
 i upgraded straight from 16.04 already, and still using it
 but in the past always had too weak hardware to support my workloads and unity at once xD
 Welcome @juakote !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 sorry playing with telegram
 what is UBFR_Team ?
 UBports First Responder Team
 👍
 More info here https://ubports.com/community/get-involved/community-sc
 @K31j0, Its not easy, it doesnt work on bionic yet, I beleive it only works on 16.04, when it does it doesnt display your usual apps, so if you installed Firefox via apt, it wouldnt show up in your launcher. … I dont remember the other problems or nicetys that are lossed, but its missing features.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Regular apps should show up in app drawer
 It seems youre correct, my mistake.