[07:52] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:56] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[07:56] <brobostigon> o/
[08:03] <SuperMatt> morning
[08:03] <SuperMatt> only a couple more weeks until 18.04 is released :)
[08:05] <brobostigon> morning
[08:57] <Nafallo> o/
[08:59] <brobostigon> o/
[10:54] <SuperMatt> Communitheme is now available as a snap and all my christmases have come together
[10:54] <SuperMatt> ditch that old and ugly ambiance theme and join the rest of the in the future!
[10:54] <SuperMatt> snap install communitheme #that's all it takes
[11:00]  * daftykins thinks snaps are a mistake
[11:01] <SuperMatt> For what reason?
[11:02] <daftykins> dependance on the dev to update components within
[11:03] <SuperMatt> That's true, but it provides an easier path for upgrade for the devs too
[11:05] <daftykins> if they're not working on it natively they're probably not serious enough about the platform in a way
[11:10] <SuperMatt> tbh, I'm not going to use a snap unless it's for something I know the devs are serious about
[11:11] <SuperMatt> and of course, using snaps can have the opposite effect. You can have a more up to date version of the libraries
[11:12] <SuperMatt> I can now keep a base on 18.04, but install an application with tls1.3 support
[11:12] <daftykins> 18.04 won't have that on release?
[11:13] <SuperMatt> not as far as I can tell. it's in freeze now, and I've just checked openssl s_client and it doesn't have 1.3
[11:15] <SuperMatt> lemme doublecheck though, it may work
[11:18] <SuperMatt> I cannot make a 1.3 connection from openssl
[11:32] <SuperMatt> Hmmm... I think I get better battery life under X instead of wayland. This upsets my sensibilities
[11:48] <daftykins> wayland still has a long way to go from what i've heard
[11:48] <daftykins> running new and shiny sometimes just isn't worth it
[11:48] <SuperMatt> Yeah, it can't do simply things like dragging a file out of fileroller into nautilus in order to extract
[11:49] <daftykins> wow
[11:49] <daftykins> can it screenshot yet? i heard that was lacking
[11:49] <SuperMatt> I believe so
[11:50] <daftykins> aaah finally the day has come for my flight back to Guernsey, at 6pm tonight :D
[11:50] <daftykins> done all i can here in the London pad
[11:52] <SuperMatt> did you get drunk in the London pad?
[11:53] <daftykins> my client took me out for a Thai curry with a few beers last night :D
[11:53] <SuperMatt> That'll do
[11:53] <daftykins> i'm told Thai Square is a UK chain?
[11:54] <SuperMatt> lemme look it up. I don't know the name, but I may recognise the logo
[11:55] <SuperMatt> nope, don't recognise it at all
[11:59] <daftykins> hmm if i have a train ticket already that's for Victoria to Gatwick, can i go to Clapham Junction and head there instead... or do i need to stick to going to Victoria?
[11:59] <daftykins> it's got the 'any routes permitted' on it
[12:00] <daftykins> 'there' being Gatwick
[12:00] <SuperMatt> yes
[12:00] <SuperMatt> you're allowed to split journey
[12:01] <daftykins> neat :D thanks