[04:10] <CharlotteHu> Howdy do!  I’m a Linux user with mediocre skills.  Please tell me, can Ubuntu Touch be put on any phone or just the ones listed on the site?  Is there a chance of dual booting with android?  Thanks.
 Just the ones on the site
 In the future anbox will work which will allow you to run android apps safely on your Ubuntu phone in a container.
[04:18] <CharlotteHu> Oh, well.  Ok, I’m happy to hear that about anbox.  Like Wine for Android!  Is there any way to keep abreast of which devices get added to support?
[04:24] <CharlotteHu> Ok, thanks kids.  I’ll keep looking into lovely UT.
[06:07] <ubptgbot> JasonMD was added by: JasonMD
 Hi peeps, how well is 16.04/unstable running on Nexus 4? thx
 Like the new ubports installer btw
 @JasonMD, If you want to use your phone as a daily driver, go with 15.04, if you want to test and report bugs, go with 16.04.
 Cant speak for nexus 4 but on the fairphone 2 16.04 runs, but slower than 15.04. Also by far most apps need recompiling to work properly or at all.
 16.04 works a bit faster than 15.04 in Nexus 4. Calls, gsm, data, wifi, browser works. Gps and a lot of other apps doesn't.
 Oops nexus 5x is not supported ☹, is Xperia x supported coz I bought nexus 5x just to enjoy Ubuntu touch
 Just the devices listed on the website
 @samitormanen, Thx for the response, 16.04 will improve obviously, any idea how long before it would be updated to stable?
 it's the highest priority, but ETA's are always very hard to provide
 Obviously
 Does convergence work atm?
 on nexus 5 it's apparantly usable (i don't have one)
 ok thx, might update my N4 later
 N4 has MHL so i guess it's possible there too
 but again, i don't have one :)
[07:22] <ubptgbot> m3tr0g33k was added by: m3tr0g33k
 Welcome Mat H, check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @rogieroudshoorn, Yeah it works on the N4 but it's pretty slow so not a great experiance
 @rogieroudshoorn, [Edit] Yeah it works on the N4 but it's pretty slow so not a great experience
 Developer's please make it happen on nexus 5x also
 @JasonMD, You can keep an eye on this https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones
 also read this https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1107/fallen-tree-in-the-development-road-development-update-09-april-2018
 to get a general idea of what's going on
 @leoaslan, 5X is receiving attention but it is proving very difficult. It might be quite a long wait
 Thx
 @leoaslan, Developers are trying but they are facing a lot of unexpected problems with that device
 Is there a recommended device to use?
 http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 Obviously my N4 is pretty old now (although I bought it especially for Ubuntu Touch..)
 @JasonMD, Typically, Nexus 5 or OnePlusOne
 In fact I bought the first Nexus also for this purpose then it got dropped 😢
 M10 FHD is great if you want a large tablet to develop on
 Not sure where to find the Nexus 5 these days
 ebay?
 Although being in Hong Kong there must be some somewhere..
 Alot of ppl won't send to HK on eBay
 Right. I wrote that before you say HK 😅
 Ha ha
 Meizu Pro 5 but make sure it is the international version not Chinese
 Ok
 Why not the Chinese version? Locked?
 I will be very cautious of eBay and second hand electronics. Difficult to find older models in good condition. Usually some non standard repair on the product. If you find a reputable seller you may be ok.
 @JasonMD, I think can be modified but very troublesome. Yes locked down
 Yep, you can unlocked the Chinese version. See https://forums.ubports.com/topic/708/meizu-pro5-fastboot-mode-locked/6
 Could someone describe the adb process that pushes the system image on to a device? I want to try it CLI to troubleshoot the process.
 I have reviewed the code...
 (of the installer)
 @Stereofont, It's illegal to sell locked phones here in HK so I would have to go some to manage to buy one but thx for the warning
 oh actually I'm thinking carrier locked
 so still relevant
 @JasonMD, Have you tried n4? Until recently I had daily driver n4 and it was pretty great all things considered
 Yes it has stable on it atm 😊, but I appreciate newer phones have much better CPU etc and can give a smoother experience
 https://devblog.ubports.com/2017/04/15/community-qa.html   on this q&a post it says that anbox is working for one plus one...but docs say no....what is meant by the q&a post?
 Is there any VNC-like client I can use with UT?
[12:03] <ubptgbot> Joe L was added by: Joe L
[12:07] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> New here..  gotta ask. Can UT be flashed to a Nexus 5x? I see it has the Nexus 5 as one of it's listed compatible devices but not the 5x. Has anyone had an success with the 5x?
 @Joe L, The 5x is in the works. I think we used to have two people working on porting to it but one gave up lol. Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! 🙂
[12:15] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Used to have? I sure hope someone picks it back up. I have been looking forward to trying this os out since back when it was a new idea with Ubuntu.
 @Joe L, 👍  It's very nice! You'll love it!
[12:20] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I used to check back weekly and was more then sad when the original project was cancelled. Once I found out it was picked back up via UB ports, I was extremely happy. Now I just wait to see if it ever comes to a device I have.
 there is the way for install google play in anbox?
 @Joe L, Some of the devices it works on are readily available to buy second hand, and they're not that expensive...
 Hi! I'm wayneoutthere, the UBports living bot!  I see someone asked about the N5x!  The answer is 'we don't do that yet".  Thank you!
 by the way... you have the same name as Joe In Here... that's... weird for me.
[12:28] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I saw the device list. The Nexus 5 was one I was looking at but they still want an average of $100 for it on eBay. :( Not that I have a problem with $100, but I just bought a Huawei Mate 10 Pro .. trying to o justify purchasing another phone after that major purchase to my other half may not sit too well. She is a cheap ass. lol
 @exar_kun check it out.  "Joe L" is here
[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> lol had no other choice..  it's the name my mother gave me.
[12:30] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I don't think the other name she used to call me would be appropriate
[12:31] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> My mother cussed like a sailor..
 HA!
 who are you Joe?  Your style amuses me
[12:33] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> @wayneoutthere, Well..  I'm Joe.. I think..  with small traces of my very amusing and verbally distraught mother.. (lol)
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/pNBwEHSU.webp
 @Joe L, :) Hehe! Well you could always put your Huawei Mate 10 Pro on eBay to fund your UT addiction! Seriously though, my N5 is my only phone, and it's fine. The only issue would be if you needed a specific app for something, and it isn't available in the OpenStore yet.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Yd4s0XZI.webp
[12:35] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> My lady is already pissed I spent over $700 on a phone to begin with. The only thing that shit her up about that was that I gave her my Honor 8 I had before that.
 Oops!
[12:37] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Yeah.   Was supposed to say "shut", but Android hates me so..
 (I guessed! No - I was sympathizing with the problems you're having with your lady!)
[12:39] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> And if I sold my mate 10 Pro, it would probably be to buy the P20 Pro.. lol.  And I figured.. I just always have to make things dramatically humorous or I'm not Joe L
 Have you tried UT? It really is something.
[12:43] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> No.. that's why I'm here.. :) I was a big fan long before it was dropped and restarted. I'm pretty excited to see it's been picked back up though. It has made my year so far.
 👍
[12:44] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I just hope support comes for the 5x since I already have that.. lol.  My phone budget is kinda slim with the gf keeping a close eye on my wallet.
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> If my wallet wasn't always in my back pocket, she would probably elect to have her eye implanted in there. That's just too close to my ass for her though..
[12:46] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> She was pretty pissed I bought the Nexus 5x when it first came out. Especially since like 2 weeks later it was down by like $150.
 seperate accounts are awesome
 i don't care if she buys shoes, she doesn't care if i buy phones
 👍
[12:49] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> That would definitely be ideal.
 Joe I don't suppose any of your mates have an old N5 they'd donate to the cause...?
 @PhoenixLandPirate, What's Bionic? I only remember that Android's C implementation is called that
 @K31j0, That's the name of 18.04LTS
 @Pete, Sorry to bother you guys, especially as a noob...but anyone with thoughts on this?
 @Pete, This is very old news. Its from 2017, and probably was not very accurate at this time.
 So our docs are more recent, and sorry, currently Anbox does not work on OPO
 @alan_griffiths, Ah, sorry :P
[13:07] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> @Mark, I don't know anyone that that isn't stingy with their phones, current or old. I used to hold on to a bunch of phones as I moved up to newer ones but I found it to be a waste.
[13:07] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Honestly I have never even used an N5
 @Flohack, Got it!  Figured id ask before I decided to jump off Android into the ubports world entirely.
 Thanks
[13:18] <ubptgbot> Viktor was added by: Viktor
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/wRZGOqV5.webp
 Hello
[13:32] <ubptgbot> Xaxoo was added by: Xaxoo
 Welcome Viktor and @Xaxoo !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 @Viktor, You're my new favourite new person
 Why
 Gollum is one of my favourite LoTR characters 😉
 hier ist heute was los...
 ups wrong chat 😃
 Hey, you! The only true pickle here is pickle-sorin @popescu_sorin 🤘
 @Joe L, excellent. It's actually year 2.... :)
 @Mark, Hey Mark!  where's your TG username? Get on that! ;)
 @advocatux, maybe he's from the Citadel
 http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/Citadel_of_Ricks
 😂
 o a second pickle 😃
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/t7e5xiYG.webp
 (Sticker, 238x512) https://irc.ubports.com/uzp0L6M9.webp
 (Sticker, 437x512) https://irc.ubports.com/nnEvVlZO.webp
 I hate you both.
 I want to see a season 4 of that though
 but I don't know if it'll ever come into existence
 (Sticker, 512x280) https://irc.ubports.com/u0S0FzSe.webp
 Ups, soz.
 getting pretty far off topic in here
 Just a little
 https://t.me/ubports_ot
 If I ever want to help with anything, is it fine if I ask here for some assignment?
 Sure whats your skills
 @K31j0, Should be. You might want to talk to @wayneoutthere
 I want to bring up Moto G3, Moto X Play and Xperia Z2
 couold also help with testing and eventually maintaining Polish translation
 @peternerlich I just noticed that Polish is not on our welcome page... that might have been my fail but I recall there is a group, right?  I will post this message then search again
 @wayneoutthere I have seen no Polish support gruop on the page and I don't know if any exists
 heck using keyboard in that weird position again and hitting wrong keys
 @K31j0, there's @ubports_pl
 nice find.
 i just found
 i'll put on news channel sometime soon ;)
 surprisingly, search actually works sometimes :)
 Well if something is publicly accessible it works
 unless you hit some random arab group/channel
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/DvXkFp0d.mp4
 one good thing about ut telegram-app is that gifs don't work
 Dunno
 gifs crash my browser on Sailfish xD Didn't try porting UT yet unfortunatelly
 It's an acknowledged bug with droidmedia that they don't seem to fix
 @Pete, Still a no. Trial version only works on Mediatek devices
 @TmTravolta, how should a ubports webapp request local files?
 how should a ubports webapp request local files
 it seems my app has stopped working because xhr request returns '0'
 meaning the html file the app is constructed around is loaded from the file:// protocol
 and requests for files at paths like these aren't working './my/file.json'
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/l3d56aWH.mp4
 iirc file:/// requires full paths, which you can't rely on. https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN would be a better group to discuss app dev in
 Yep, file:/// requires an absolute path
 No thanks @Oooy3ah
 Is there a way to recover a log from a failed installation?
 It's a Windows machine
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/779195/how-to-view-locally-stored-html-files-on-ubuntu-touch/779949#779949
 @Cesar_Herrera what has that to do with logs from the installer_
 [Edit] @Cesar_Herrera what has that to do with logs from the installer?
[21:37] <ubptgbot> mathewSeven was added by: mathewSeven
 Sorry. I can delete it.
 Welcome @mathewSeven  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 Yeah! Welcome !  Enjoy the community
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/It03Srn5.mp4
 ubuntu touch exists for huawei p8
 @eandres97, https://devices.ubports.com/#/
 Hey UBports community. We are in need of some simple help. As we are putting together press releases in the future, we are hoping to gather the contact information (e-mail addresses) of relavent news sources so that we can send out the amazing work of the community and let the world know. … BUT, we need your help to gather this inf
[22:27] <ubptgbot> ormationl, especially with the non-English sites. The instructions and content are here: … https://papad.org/p/presscontacts … EVERY little bit helps and counts, and is a chance to contribute :) Thanks
 thanks Joe. I'll scan this and see if I can help.  thanks for using a pad, this is quite easy
 thanks, it's super easy. Probably could have found a better way, but the contributors will let me know i'm sure :P
[23:08] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Rejoice everyone..  The new Joe L is back..  (lol)
[23:09] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Hello, Mr Wayne...
[23:10] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> *crickets chirping* Um..  hello people..  again.. ?
 hi
 wait since when did telegram support 'group stickers'
 looks at watch … Many months
 literally the first time I've seen that, neat.
 sorry for OT.
[23:16] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> :) good to be here..  again. . For the second time today.. lol
[23:16] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I use "lol" a lot.. so..  um..
[23:20] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> So who would be able to tell me if there is planned support for the Nexus 5x? I know Ami asked about that stuff before, but I'm hard headed.. and I have the short term memory of a goldfish. :D
[23:20] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> BTW, that was supposed to say "I know I asked" but Android hates me.. so..
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/404#comment-369993632
[23:23] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Hmm..  that's a crafty way of saying no..
 You can tell that the Nexus 5X has reached the end of its useful life for many people with how many questions we're getting lately for sure. :P
[23:24] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> The 5 is on the list.. but the 5x is a pain.. damn lg and their crazy phones..
 The SD808 was interesting. As was kernel 3.10
 It was a huge transition in the Linux kernel and Android forked at entirely the wrong time
 Well halium plus hacks in Ubuntu to work on top of Android, are a pain
[23:25] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Sadness
 Mhmm. Not worth losing sleep on it when the pool of devices is both very large and includes things which are not the 5X
[23:26] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I'm gonna have to take a look at the list and pick up a phone that's already on the list.
 Does not explain why it seems to work for Plasma Mobile, but really I have no idea at this point
 @Joe L, that's a good idea
 Well, the hacks need removing anyway
 Hmm?
 But more generally so
 If you mean "The entirety of libhybris" I don't know what to tell you
[23:28] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Just sucks. I have spent insane amounts of money on phones over the last two years so my gf isn't too thrilled with the idea that I might buy yet another one for side fun.
 Eh, the Nexus 5 can be had for well under $100. :P
 libhybris itself is the problem on 5x?
 @dohbee, I don't know.
 Among the list of problems is, "If rsyslogd starts, all processes quickly halt"
 It's not a panic, things just... stop.
 I mean the stuff that's requiring changes in hybris, specifically for Ubuntu, primarily though
 Huh
[23:30] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> So is this OS possibly going to be progressed enough to eventually be usable on newer phones? I would love to see this on my old Honor 8
 The OS isn't really the problem in most cases
 There's work on ports for several newer phones, too
 Is that Huawei?
[23:34] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I just want to see this go on to be something other then just a thing to toy with. I would love to be able to show off a phone running it to my friends. I had been every interested in the progress of the os originally before it was dropped by Ubuntu and was sad when I found out it was cancelled.
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> And yeah. . Honor is a Huawei sister brand.
[23:35] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> My main driver is a Huawei Mate 10 Pro
 https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ doesn't look great for Huawei
[23:36] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> That blows.. but wait..  I see an honor 5x on the list..
 That doesn't mean that it will instantly work
 It means that it's easier to port to
[23:38] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I would sooner buy an honor 5x for play then any lg phone after my problems with the nexus 5x. Unless there so something inherently better about the 5 as opposed to the 5x.
 The 5 was the pinnacle of Nexus phones. Except for the crappy power/volume buttons
[23:41] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> So out of curiosity. What would be the best phone to buy that is on that list, spec wise? I mean, if it's the 5 and I can get it for less then $100, I can probably do it once.
 Meizu Pro 5 is highest end supported phone
 But more costly than a Nexus 5
[23:43] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Ooh..  but does it work on US networks? I wouldn't mind spending more on a decent phone. I'm serious when I say I had a very bad experience with LG and their 5x.
 Nexus 5 is probably best per dollar device
 I don't know if turbo does support us bands
[23:44] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Hmm.
[23:44] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> Well my dreams are quickly being shot down. lol
 Never had a 5x. My 5 was great, until power button broke
 I carry a 5X with me every day. s'alright. My phone needs aren't very American though.
 Or hell, just install 16.04 in a VM, and unity8 from ubports, and play a bit with it
 @UniversalSuperBox, Well, you're practically Canadian, eh.
[23:50] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> I couldn't ask for a better phone then the mate ..  it's freaking awesome.
[23:50] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> If I get another phone as a daily driver, it'll likely be the P20.
[23:51] <ubptgbot> <Joe L> So anyway.  I'm gonna go check prices on the (gag) Nexus 5 on eBay.