| jbicha | GunnarHj: howdy, I opened LP: #1762889 | 01:51 |
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| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1762889 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "dh_translations doesn't strip .desktop files when more than 1 pot target with meson" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762889 | 01:51 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: As I wrote in a comment on that libgweather commit, it's worse than that. dh_translations does not do anything, so AFAICT we need to keep all those debian/rules entries for now for all packages with > 1 domain. | 01:55 |
| jbicha | just a moment… | 01:55 |
| jbicha | ok, I see. I'm reverting the libgweather commit | 01:58 |
| GunnarHj | jbicha: Good. But your idea in that bug looks interesting. | 01:58 |
| jbicha | I um never noticed the _translations.tar.gz before and I didn't realize there is supposed to be a .pot inside it | 01:58 |
| GunnarHj | The setup is pretty complex... I think I have learned a lot of it the past few months. | 01:59 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 06:39 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks | 06:57 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:12 |
| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| duflu | G'day oSoMoN | 07:13 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:13 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, oSoMoN | 07:17 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:17 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:39 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks oSoMoN duflu | 07:39 |
| duflu | Hi seb128 | 07:39 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:43 |
| seb128 | how is everyone today? | 07:44 |
| didrocks | rather good, but tiring night with little one coughing | 07:46 |
| didrocks | you? | 07:46 |
| seb128 | oh :( | 07:46 |
| seb128 | the kids being sick is never ending :/ | 07:46 |
| didrocks | never *ever* | 07:47 |
| seb128 | I'm fine but that cold is rather annoying, nose is really blocked and I don't sleep well and need to use tissues every few minutes | 07:48 |
| seb128 | it's a bit better today so hopefully I get over it before the w.e | 07:48 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: crossing fingers! | 07:52 |
| duflu | seb128, life was good until I started trying to debug Totem again. Then not so good | 07:57 |
| seb128 | :/ | 07:58 |
| duflu | koza, seb128, jibel, the meeting time is wrong again. Should be 1 hour from now but Google thinks it is now. Anything to discuss? | 07:59 |
| seb128 | duflu, calendar says jibel is off today | 07:59 |
| seb128 | willcooke is in London | 07:59 |
| seb128 | I don't have anything to discuss | 07:59 |
| seb128 | should we skip? | 08:00 |
| duflu | seb128, koza, yes skipping. I'm off outside for a couple of minutes in that case | 08:00 |
| duflu | And then there was willcooke. Good morning | 08:01 |
| seb128 | duflu, ttyl! | 08:01 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:01 |
| willcooke | moin | 08:01 |
| seb128 | duflu, we probably want to discuss 5.49 (or 50) for SRU/.1 but that be after 18.04 is out | 08:01 |
| willcooke | seb128, did you already ask duflu about that bug we talked about in the meeting? | 08:01 |
| Laney | yo | 08:01 |
| seb128 | willcooke, not yet, we were talking bluetooth | 08:02 |
| willcooke | ack | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, what's up? | 08:02 |
| willcooke | what ho Laney | 08:02 |
| Laney | hey seb128 willcooke | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hey hey willcooke, Laney | 08:02 |
| willcooke | hi didrocks | 08:02 |
| Laney | hey didrocks! | 08:02 |
| Laney | did my first ever "jog" yesterday evening | 08:02 |
| Laney | now my legs hurt | 08:02 |
| didrocks | did you stretch afterward? | 08:03 |
| Laney | a bit | 08:03 |
| Laney | it ended at the pub so I stretched my arm at least ;-) | 08:03 |
| didrocks | ahah, and mouth as well I guess :) | 08:03 |
| Laney | could do more I guess | 08:03 |
| didrocks | especially after jogging :p | 08:04 |
| Laney | going to do the park run on saturday, wanted to check if I was going to die ... | 08:04 |
| willcooke | duflu, seb128 do you guys want to join the HO or nothing to talk about? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | Laney: how long will it be? | 08:05 |
| seb128 | beer is good for re-hydrating | 08:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, oh, we just agreed to skip before you joined, we though you were on your way to London and we didn't have anything to discuss | 08:05 |
| seb128 | willcooke, also <seb128> duflu, we probably want to discuss 5.49 (or 50) for SRU/.1 but that be after 18.04 is out | 08:06 |
| Laney | didrocks: it's 5k | 08:06 |
| didrocks | is there an equivalent in gtk2 of gtk3-demo-application? I thought there was, can't find the name back (I know there is gtk-demo, but the example is better to check busy cursor and such) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | willcooke, also dufl_u pointed out that the meeting should be an hour later but the calendar shows it for now, DST still not fully sorted out :/ | 08:06 |
| seb128 | (I don't know if that's right and both slots wfm) | 08:06 |
| didrocks | Laney: I would say you will suffer for the last 1.5-2km ;) but it's still doable for a noob :p | 08:07 |
| Laney | heheh | 08:07 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: hi, are you going to fix pstotext for that bug? | 08:08 |
| duflu | And morning Laney | 08:08 |
| duflu | seb128, I think maybe you missed the last BT meeting. We decided there to look at 5.49+ after 18.04. And I mentioned it in a bug or two too | 08:10 |
| willcooke | just had a quick chat with koza | 08:10 |
| willcooke | and will be heading to London in a mo | 08:10 |
| duflu | koza, are you really online? | 08:11 |
| dupondje | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/81 seems we have working patches :D | 08:14 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug 81 in mutter "hybrid GPU: one screen stays black in mutter 3.28" (comments: 19) [Opened] | 08:14 |
| ubot5` | Error: Gnome bug 81 could not be found | 08:14 |
| seb128 | willcooke, ok oh, koza didn't reply on the channel so we though he was not around ... next time | 08:17 |
| seb128 | dupondje, did they made it to .1? | 08:17 |
| willcooke | nw, we just had a chat about life, the universe and everything | 08:17 |
| seb128 | :) | 08:17 |
| willcooke | running the skype snap on 18.04 segfaults mutter | 08:18 |
| seb128 | that's nice | 08:18 |
| seb128 | willcooke, did you apport/whoopsie report it? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | there is not anymore gtk2 widget factory app, correct? | 08:22 |
| duflu | Problems with Skype sound familiar | 08:22 |
| willcooke | seb128, https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762954 | 08:23 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1762954 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Running the skype snap under the Wayland session crashes the whole session" [Undecided,New] | 08:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, not that I know | 08:23 |
| seb128 | willcooke, you don't get a report in /var/crash? | 08:23 |
| didrocks | damn, I will need to create a simple app with busy cursor it seems… thanks seb128 | 08:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, :/ | 08:23 |
| dupondje | seb128: will see :) Dunno when they will tag .1? | 08:24 |
| duflu | seb128, no news is good news. There's still time: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/blob/master/NEWS | 08:24 |
| seb128 | dupondje, they were supposed to do that on monday but some components are late | 08:24 |
| duflu | Also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/blob/gnome-3-28/NEWS | 08:24 |
| willcooke | seb128, hm, I think I do, but it didnt upload it. Should I just attach it to the bug? | 08:24 |
| dupondje | I just confirmed the patch works, so lets hope :) | 08:24 |
| seb128 | willcooke, please don't, just use ubuntu-bug on it | 08:24 |
| seb128 | ubuntu-bug .crash | 08:25 |
| seb128 | dupondje, great | 08:25 |
| willcooke | seb128, done that as a new bug, LP: #1762960 | 08:42 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1762960 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Running classic snaps crashes wayland session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762960 | 08:42 |
| willcooke | I'll tidy up the old one, and sort out the dupes later, need to get on the train now | 08:42 |
| seb128 | willcooke, thanks | 08:43 |
| willcooke | will try and get a table on the train | 08:43 |
| willcooke | see you in a bit | 08:43 |
| seb128 | duflu, good to have a reliable way to trigger one of those xwayland segfaults! ^ | 08:45 |
| duflu | seb128, I checked yesterday and there are relatively few Xwayland crashes compared to gnome-shell crashes. The numbers don't align | 08:47 |
| duflu | I updated the main bug about it | 08:47 |
| seb128 | k | 08:48 |
| duflu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1505409 | 08:48 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1505409 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in x_io_error() from _XIOError() from _XEventsQueued() from XPending() from gdk_check_xpending() ["Connection to xwayland lost"]" [Critical,Confirmed] | 08:48 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: do you mind testing out https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/pull/3? It should fix GTK2 support. You have instructions to test the snap directly (you need to restart your session though to have the change taking into effect) | 09:02 |
| ubot5-ng | ubuntu bug (Pull request) 3 in communitheme-snap-helpers "Ensure GTK2 application are themed" (comments: 1) [Open] | 09:02 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, sure, testing now | 09:08 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, that fixes the theming of gtk2 apps, very nice! | 09:10 |
| oSoMoN | I'll comment on the PR | 09:11 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 09:12 |
| didrocks | so, only 2 issues remain :) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | for those interested: https://github.com/ubuntu/gtk-communitheme/issues/325#issuecomment-380383969 | 09:13 |
| ubot5-ng | ubuntu bug 325 in gtk-communitheme "Evince has a totally invisible gui with the snap theme" (comments: 7) [Bug, Confirmed, Open] - Assigned to didrocks (Didier Roche) | 09:13 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 325 in seahorse (Ubuntu) "no icon" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325 | 09:13 |
| didrocks | I'll fix evince directly (opening a bug, and such), for the snaps, I'll need to talk to jdstrand | 09:13 |
| didrocks | well, it's going to be in abstractions/gnome for the proper fix, so, I'll need to talk there to jdstrand as well for evince :) | 09:16 |
| willcooke | Weee. I'm on the new train direct to Blackfrirars! | 09:20 |
| willcooke | duflu, I have an xwayland crash file, do I just attach it? | 09:21 |
| duflu | willcooke, no, please run ubuntu-bug | 09:21 |
| willcooke | (on mobile data, might lag/drop out) | 09:21 |
| willcooke | kk | 09:21 |
| duflu | We can't retrace them by hand | 09:21 |
| duflu | What's new about the new train? | 09:23 |
| willcooke | LP:#1754693 looks like the same bug but I'll log this one anyway, just in case | 09:24 |
| willcooke | It's a brand new route which goes pretty much door-to-door for me. They reused some old tunnels under kings cross to link two lines and the new service started last week. Brand new trains too | 09:25 |
| willcooke | duflu, lp: #1762971 | 09:27 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1762971 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Running classic snaps crashes wayland session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762971 | 09:27 |
| duflu | willcooke, That's interesting. It's crashed in swrast. Did you notice slow rendering or high CPU? | 09:28 |
| duflu | Or is it a VM? | 09:28 |
| willcooke | It's a real machine | 09:28 |
| willcooke | I'll crash it again and see if I hear fans spin up | 09:28 |
| duflu | I've been ignoring all xorg* crashes because my inbox and mornings are overloaded already. I wonder if this is a common one | 09:29 |
| willcooke | Nothing too unusual. skype used some cpu, then it froze, then apport used some cpu and then it locked up | 09:31 |
| willcooke | then it restarted | 09:31 |
| duflu | willcooke, it's the Xwayland process supposedly using software rendering | 09:31 |
| willcooke | now I cant get to my ttys | 09:32 |
| duflu | willcooke, need to wait for the retrace | 09:35 |
| duflu | willcooke, yeah I think bug 1754693 is indeed the same. So good news: It's not using swrast -- that's just wrong when you're lacking debug symbols | 09:38 |
| ubot5` | Error: Launchpad bug 1754693 could not be found | 09:38 |
| duflu | Maybe https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/01a80d2110a46f6b6d857ce814079646e695f4ca | 09:40 |
| seb128 | duflu, it's easy to retrace locally or to download the coredump and use gdb on it on another bionic/amd64 system | 09:41 |
| duflu | Yeah, if the symbols match | 09:41 |
| seb128 | if the machines are bionic update they use the same binaries, it usually works | 09:41 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ is that bug known by you? | 09:42 |
| duflu | I can't find any other instances other than those mentioned above | 09:47 |
| seb128 | well it's bionic, not our default session, and some specific snaps | 09:48 |
| seb128 | so not a surprised not that of a common combo | 09:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I guess you know that tb is older in bionic that in other pockets? | 09:52 |
| LocutusOfBorg | hurray for glib2! | 09:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but... + cherry-pick per-desktop overrides from GNOME #786496 | 09:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Allison confirmed the patches will be committed to glib soon | 09:53 |
| ubot5` | Gnome bug 786496 in general "Replace custom override schema with per-desktop override" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=786496 | 09:53 |
| ubot5-ng | bugzilla.gnome.org bug 786496 in general "Replace custom override schema with per-desktop override" [Normal, New] - Assigned to gnome-shell-maint | 09:53 |
| ubot5` | bug 786496 in Redshift "Redshift don't work with Dual Screen on Linux" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/786496 | 09:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | are we sure this is still the case? | 09:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I don't see much activity on upstream tracker | 09:53 |
| seb128 | I doubt it's still the case, he just copied the old changelog entry | 09:53 |
| LocutusOfBorg | what about a prod in upstream tracker? | 09:54 |
| LocutusOfBorg | or merging in Debian the patch, so we go back in sync... | 09:54 |
| * willcooke prepares to enter the new tunnels. They're probably haunted. | 09:56 | |
| Laney | LocutusOfBorg: There is no way those patches are going into Debian, they need to come via upstream | 10:01 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, the bug tracker is open, you can try nagging | 10:02 |
| seb128 | Allison is not likely going to land those, she stopped working on glib afaik | 10:02 |
| Mirv | jbicha: yes to shotwell 0.28.2, landing via a ticket | 10:02 |
| seb128 | but other maintainers might be wanting to review/land it | 10:02 |
| Laney | our team should still have an interest in seeing those patches merged imo | 10:04 |
| seb128 | I think it does have one | 10:05 |
| seb128 | but we have little leverage over upstream there | 10:05 |
| seb128 | you are probably the person in the team who did the most glib upstream contributions, I don't think we have annoying on the path to be comaintainer | 10:05 |
| seb128 | annoying->anyone | 10:06 |
| Laney | it was my impression that di_drocks was in charge of making sure they went upstream in the end | 10:10 |
| seb128 | well, there is only so much he/we can do :/ j_bicha tried to nag earlier in the cycle and got ignored | 10:10 |
| seb128 | if you have idea/suggestions on what else we can try I'm happy to get some | 10:11 |
| Laney | ask Phillip | 10:11 |
| seb128 | I guess we can try pinging again, doesn't hurt (unless people get annoyed to be nagged too much) | 10:11 |
| Laney | I'll have a word with him | 10:16 |
| seb128 | thx! | 10:17 |
| duflu | Heh. Now I'm bisecting software and hardware to find a bug | 10:23 |
| duflu | that's new | 10:23 |
| seb128 | how does that work? | 10:25 |
| mgedmin | first you draw a line in chalk around the middle of your laptop, then you get a big axe ... | 10:26 |
| duflu | seb128, I think it will involve moving my HDD from the new desktop back into the old one | 10:27 |
| seb128 | ah | 10:27 |
| seb128 | mgedmin, :) | 10:27 |
| duflu | To dinner and beyond | 10:31 |
| seb128 | willcooke, retraced confirmed your xwayland issue is bug #1754693 | 10:36 |
| ubot5` | bug 1754693 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xwayland crashed with SIGABRT in st_renderbuffer_delete()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754693 | 10:36 |
| jbicha | I think one problem was that I asked about the glib patches too late in the GNOME release cycle. Since their cycle just started now, it's a better time | 10:47 |
| jbicha | good morning | 10:47 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha | 10:47 |
| seb128 | well they could have reviewed or replied "looks good but better for next cycle" | 10:48 |
| seb128 | rather than just ignoring it | 10:48 |
| Mirv | jbicha: shotwell 0.28.2 in unapproved queue now | 10:51 |
| jbicha | thanks :) | 10:51 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128 | 10:55 |
| GunnarHj | Hi Laney, aren't those options in e.g. dh_strip predefined somehow in the Debian packaging system? We'd need a custom option. (Struggled with it the other day without success.) | 11:34 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: If you know what it would look like in init(), I'd need some handholding for that part. | 11:36 |
| Laney | GunnarHj: laney@nightingale> ~/temp/pkgbinarymangler-136/dh_translations --domain=foo | 11:39 |
| Laney | domain is foo | 11:39 |
| Laney | https://paste.debian.net/1019708/ | 11:39 |
| GunnarHj | Laney: Thanks! I'll give that a try. (Tonight or tomorrow.) | 11:41 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, hey, can you retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:6.0.3-0ubuntu1/+build/14746085 ? that looks like a flaky test (it failed once in my PPA build, too) | 12:23 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, is that ok if somebody else retry? :) | 12:27 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I assumed it was and did click the button | 12:30 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, thanks :) | 12:31 |
| seb128 | yw! | 12:31 |
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| jdstrand | didrocks: hey, can you create a forum topic for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1762993. the requested change is simple but it goes against the snapd design. I think it is going to need some justification and discussion (with a possibly different outcome) with the snapd team | 12:59 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1762993 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snaps can't load communitheme theme" [Undecided,New] | 12:59 |
| willcooke | seb128, do you know if I have to have fingerprint hardware to get some UI to appear in settings for configuring fingerprints? | 13:13 |
| willcooke | or Trevinho if you're around ^ | 13:13 |
| tjaalton | seb128: oops, missed your ping.. no, it's not | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128, did you get a chance to test that gedit snap i sent? | 13:31 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: I'll open one, have you looked at the apparmor one for evince by any chance? | 13:40 |
| andyrock | seb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1761841/comments/3 | 13:41 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 1761841 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Notification for livepatch are not shown." [Medium,In progress] | 13:41 |
| andyrock | I was thinking about the same | 13:41 |
| youpi | hello, on launchpad I have pushed a branch containing a commit that --fixes lp:1234 , is that enough or should I also click "Propose for merging" explicitly? | 13:43 |
| jdstrand | didrocks: I saw it. I don't have any objections. going to swing back around to it later | 13:50 |
| didrocks | jdstrand: thanks! FYI, I just had a testrun installing the package in a VM and everything works as expected | 13:51 |
| jdstrand | cool | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, can you respond to https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/issues/107 | 13:53 |
| ubot5-ng | ubuntu bug 107 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "GDM screen did not change" (comments: 0) [Open] | 13:53 |
| ubot5` | Ubuntu bug 107 in Baz (deprecated) "Please enhance baz changelog to support additive changelogs" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107 | 13:53 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i'm assuming that's because he's not on 18.04 | 13:54 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: no, it's expected. It's not because one user is changing his theme that it will change gdm one | 13:54 |
| didrocks | so, basically, the instructions is the same than going to vanilla one | 13:55 |
| didrocks | I'll answer there and ask for some help updating the general instructions :) | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:55 |
| didrocks | mvo: jdstrand: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-using-themes-in-other-snaps/4946 FYI, tell me what you think | 13:58 |
| seb128 | youpi, you need to propose for merging, referencing to a bug is only going to make the bug mention the branch but not list it as proposed for merging/needing a review | 14:08 |
| seb128 | andyrock, good point but some UIs display need to display the NoDisplay item, e.g the gnome-control-center notifications panel to let you turn off the livepatch notifications if you want | 14:10 |
| seb128 | andyrock, unsure we did the required work for livepatch to be listed there yet, but if we didn't we should (I think it's a key to add to the .desktop) | 14:10 |
| youpi | seb128: ok, thanks | 14:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I though it was not needed since when I said I didn't manage to test yet you said you did it and it was translated fine, which I though validated the testing | 14:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I would expect you do need to hwd yes | 14:13 |
| willcooke | thx seb128 | 14:14 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yw! | 14:16 |
| didrocks | doko: I think we only need a finale ack on bug #1759540 | 14:16 |
| ubot5` | bug 1759540 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ubuntu-report: send telemetry data to ubuntu server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759540 | 14:16 |
| didrocks | g-i-s is acked on my side (and this is the dep) | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, that's ok, i was hoping for a review to go with it :) | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/106 | 14:18 |
| ubot5-ng | ubuntu bug (Pull request) 106 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain to load translations from multiple paths" (comments: 0) [Open] | 14:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I had it to my list, probably for tomorrow at this point though | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | cool, thx! | 14:18 |
| seb128 | yw! | 14:18 |
| Trevinho | morning | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | hey Trevinho! | 14:23 |
| seb128 | willcooke, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/blob/master/panels/user-accounts/um-user-panel.c#L858 | 14:23 |
| Trevinho | hey kenvandine | 14:24 |
| seb128 | good morning Trevinho | 14:24 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: you need to have hardware, but... you can fake it | 14:24 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: however I think you do have hardware | 14:24 |
| Trevinho | don't you have a *60 gen thinkpad? | 14:24 |
| Trevinho | hi seb128 | 14:24 |
| Trevinho | how are you? | 14:24 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, having a rather annoying cold, I keep using tissues and my nose is blocked :/ but ok otherwise | 14:25 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, you? | 14:25 |
| Trevinho | seb128: oh, so bad.... you should go a bit more in tropical countries :-D | 14:25 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, using a new machine I borrowed from OEM | 14:25 |
| Trevinho | seb128: allright | 14:25 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: ah, as I think in your x260 (isn't that yours?) you could use the driver I did | 14:26 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, yeah OEM have asked me to show them what the UI looks like, on this $OEM laptop without a fingerprint reader | 14:26 |
| willcooke | :) | 14:26 |
| willcooke | no biggy | 14:26 |
| willcooke | it can wait | 14:26 |
| willcooke | I'm sat with the guys here, so thought I would show them | 14:27 |
| willcooke | andyrock, https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NvbrIW3B/image.png | 14:27 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: mh, I can create a fake driver for fprintd that work by, for example, using a combination | 14:27 |
| Trevinho | I did like that but it was hacky and I've trashed it | 14:27 |
| willcooke | andyrock, via jamiebennett. Seems to have translated itself in to German?! | 14:27 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, meh, dont worry about it | 14:28 |
| andyrock | willcooke: I guess it's a problem in translations | 14:54 |
| andyrock | mmm | 14:54 |
| andyrock | not sure what's happening tbh | 14:54 |
| willcooke | it's german on my machine as well :) | 14:59 |
| Laney | the en_GB translations have german in them | 15:00 |
| Laney | msgunfmt /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/software-properties.mo | 15:00 |
| dupondje | FYI: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/75 this fixes black screens/wayland crashes with dual screen setups :) So it will be in 3.28.1 :) | 15:02 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 75 in mutter "native: Disable the use of KMS modifiers by default" (comments: 0) [Merged] | 15:02 |
| Laney | they look fixed though https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/software-properties/+pots/software-properties/en_GB/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Sign+In so probably the next langpack update will sort it out | 15:05 |
| andyrock | Laney: thx! | 15:31 |
| willcooke | didrocks, I've installed tweak tool for reasons, and I notice that the ubuntu-dock and ubuntu-indicators extensions are marked as off. Is that known/a real problem? | 15:49 |
| didrocks | willcooke: it's known (and it's the case since the beginning) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | basically every extension that is part of a mode is off | 15:50 |
| didrocks | my long long proposal and patches for GNOME Shell fixes it | 15:50 |
| didrocks | but no review since october and weekly pings… | 15:50 |
| didrocks | (and multiple resubmit on gitlab and such) | 15:50 |
| didrocks | willcooke: that's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/1 | 15:51 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 1 in gnome-shell "Better mode extension support: status sync and disabling." (comments: 0) [Opened] | 15:51 |
| didrocks | and I had patches for Tweaks, chrome shell to use the new API | 15:51 |
| didrocks | (the chrome extension) | 15:51 |
| didrocks | they are all waiting on G-S though ^ | 15:51 |
| willcooke | thanks didrocks | 15:52 |
| didrocks | yw, sad this isn't properly reviewed :( | 15:53 |
| willcooke | if you've got join messages on, that guys gonna have a fun time in this channel :) ^ | 15:53 |
| willcooke | looks like they saw wisdom | 15:53 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, hi | 16:41 |
| Laney | hi tkamppeter | 16:42 |
| tkamppeter | It seems that Poppler hangs on a test chain which ends up in old and unmmaintained pstotext which is needed by dhelp to display the RFCs. | 16:42 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, I have tried to follow the hint of the Ghostscript warning, patching pstotext to use "-dREALLYDELAYBIND", but Ghostscript fails with it. | 16:44 |
| tkamppeter | Seems that the Ghostscript guys have already pulled out this feature and forgot to remove this workaround. | 16:45 |
| Laney | I guess that it doesn't require much maintenance since it worked up until recently | 16:45 |
| Laney | Proabably pstotext needs fixing to not use this removed feature | 16:45 |
| tkamppeter | The removal looks complicated as there are PostScript files which contain DELAYBIND. | 16:46 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, OCR written in PostScript and this uses DELAYBIND. | 16:48 |
| Laney | I mean if it's needed then this is a ghostscript bug after all isn't it | 16:49 |
| Laney | Back in a bit | 16:49 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, probably then I better look into patching DELAYBIND support back into Ghostscript and reporting a bug on dhelp upstream to prepare for removal of DELAYBIND. | 16:50 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:52 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: I was a little bit confused since just echo | pstotext fails | 18:50 |
| Laney | that's a blank ps file which probably doesn't have this DELAYBIND thing in it | 18:51 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, pstotext is partially written in PostScript, it runs ghostscript with PS files which come with pstotext, these contain DELAYBIND. | 19:00 |
| tkamppeter | I already contacted Ghostscript upstream on that. the DELAYBIND deprecation was actually taken back in 9.23 and the gs guy told me with which patch it was done. | 19:01 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, I backported that patch and as the return of DELAYBIND is incompatible with -dSAFER I patched the -dSAFER out of pstotext. | 19:02 |
| tkamppeter | But now I get another error (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j7TMTfM7wd/), showed it to the gs guy and he said: | 19:02 |
| tkamppeter | I really feel that holding onto backwards compatibiility with a utility last updated 14 years ago isn't always going to be in our best interests...... | 19:03 |
| tkamppeter | As I do not know programming in PostScript I do not know how to fix pstotext. | 19:04 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, I wonder why the upload of Poppler triggers the test of a documentation-only package. Does Poppler depend on this package which provides all RFCs? Does Poppler need this? | 19:05 |
| tkamppeter | Laney I also wonder why the failure only occurs now, I have updated gs to 9.22 two months ago. | 19:06 |
| Laney | tkamppeter: doc-rfc depends on poppler, thus triggers its tests which use pstotext | 19:09 |
| Laney | apparently it doesn't depend on ghostscript directly otherwise it would have been triggered then | 19:09 |
| Laney | and sorry that we have to maintain ancient stuff; that's the way of distros sometimes | 19:10 |
| Laney | There is a proper way to get it removed - analyse everything that uses it and make it stop doing that one way or another | 19:10 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, pstotext is probably missing an autopkgtest, otherwise Ghostscript had triggered it in the first place. | 19:17 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, I have no real idea how to fix that without causing a big impact on the LTS. | 19:18 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, stepping back to gs 9.21, reintroducing its bugs and removing 9.22s new features is bad in that stage of an LTS, also creates an ugly epoch. | 19:19 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, Writing a wrapper script named pstotext around (well-maintained) filters of the cups-filters package resembling the command line of the original pstotext could cause problems as the output will for sure not be the same. | 19:21 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, pstotext is only used by dhelp, by nothing else. | 19:44 |
| ximion | jbicha: since I can't upload to Ubuntu, would you upload the appstream package, now that the FFE is approved? | 20:05 |
| jbicha | ximion: could you go to https://launchpad.net/~ximion/+archive/ubuntu/appstream/+edit enable all architectures and then do a test rebuild as requested? | 20:07 |
| ximion | I did, but it doesn't automatically rebuild stuff in the PPA | 20:07 |
| jbicha | right, you need to do a new upload | 20:07 |
| ximion | I'll do a no-change upload later to trigger new builds | 20:07 |
| jbicha | thanks | 20:07 |
| jbicha | I'm just trying to keep the Release Team happy :) | 20:07 |
| jbicha | does asgen need to be the same version? | 20:09 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, my suggestion is to patch dhelp to use Ghostscript's ps2txt and to modify the autopkgtest of doc-rfc to use ps2txt instead of pstotext then, too. The the need of pstotext in the whole distro is eliminated and pstotext can get removed. | 20:10 |
| tkamppeter | Laney, doc-rfc and dhelp need to depend on Ghostscript and not on pstotext any more. | 20:13 |
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