[07:44] morning boys and girls. [08:22] o/ [08:22] Morning all [08:29] o/ [08:55] \o === huw is now known as Guest98710 [10:16] what's new y'all? [10:17] new or not so new, more paperwork. [10:59] so much for edisons dream of a paperless office... :-) [11:52] ello ello [11:52] https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/10/17218512/youtube-hack-despacito-vevo-music-videos [11:59] hacking the videos is just wrong... how will the trolls dispense their usual hate and bile when the video changes? [13:38] anyone seeing FF become very slow recently on Ubuntu ? [13:38] nope [13:38] doingf the same search on FF and chromeim and pages timing out on FF [13:39] i have seen firefox showing this page is slow messages more as of late... [13:39] but then i run the most ancient of hardware :-) [13:39] if you've been through a number of upgrades, it never hurts to have a good profile clear-out [13:40] i usually wipe laptops from scratch to avoid cruft [13:40] true true [13:40] it's becoming painful and unuseable this week [13:42] Version 59.0.2 (64-bit) [13:43] 59.0.2 (32 bit) told ya :-) [13:48] czajkowski: mmm move your ~/.mozilla i think it is and try afresh, see if it miraculously behaves [13:49] * zmoylan-pi currently downloads 64bit xubuntu for a new computer... [13:53] what's 'new' to zmoylan-pi? ;) [13:55] €209 when i got it... http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/6734514/Trail/searchtext%3EHP+WINDOWS.htm [13:55] ah yes... those [13:56] if i can get it running linux it'll be good enough for me... :-) [13:57] i wonder if it'll be one of those hellish 32-bit EFI implementations [13:57] has resisted booting of my trusty 32bit xubuntu so far... so grabbing a 64bit iso atm [13:58] lot of gobbledegook in bios relating to tpm i've never seen before... [13:59] mm TPMs are pretty moot for most use-cases [14:00] my gut instinct when i see something i've never seen before is to blame it... :-) [14:01] upto now, to install linux, enter bios, disable uefi, disable secure boot. instert usb key, turn on... [14:02] there's absolutely zero reason to avoid EFI [14:03] i like a good old fashioned bios... :-) [14:03] it's typically emulated now so often buggy, it's actually less likely to work [14:03] good enough when they came along a few years after i started using pcs... :-) [14:09] often fighting new standards gets you burnt in one way or another though [14:10] if it doesn't just work then the new standard is crap... :-) [14:13] daftykins: ho would I do that? [14:13] daftykins: ie move ot to there? [14:13] where [14:13] czajkowski: in a terminal, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old [14:13] just rename it i suppose? [14:13] then reverse them to revert back [14:14] zmoylan-pi: on those cheap machines they tried to screw over anyone dumping Windows by doing this whole 32-bit EFI thing a lot of the time, not sure if it *is* the case with that model - but we saw it a lot [14:14] standard 64-bit EFIs didn't give as much grief, though some were still hardcoded to look for the windows boot image etc of course [14:14] not had any trouble with kit i've used though, oddly [14:14] thanks for the heads up daftykins, i like a challenge... and a reason to hold a new grudge against ms... >:-) [14:15] if you buy cheap, you kinda deserve the hassle :D [14:16] it's kinda why i went with hp. as often as they've annoyed me they're generic enough to work the way i want [14:17] daftykins: ahhhh [14:18] speed difference? [14:20] i think that was just the initial eureka :) [14:20] zmoylan-pi: nope diddly squat [14:20] baffling [14:20] and annoying as all my work stuff is done on FF [14:20] or now buried in adverts and popups... :-) [14:21] could still be a DNS element to it [14:21] are you at home on a domestic broadband service, or? [14:21] is system faster in chromium? [14:28] 64bit xubuntu boots live in a few seconds... \o/ [14:28] but will it boot once installed to eMMC :D [14:29] that's to discover later... have to pop to shops for a wifi usb drive i have a coupon... :-) [14:30] wifi... wat [14:31] it's a sandisk usb drive with a batter and wifi. you can run an app on android and ios and copy/write/stream data to them. handy for when you want to send a few files to/from a mate with ios and can't otg them [14:32] because a usb drive with a lightning connector is more expensive [14:32] ah i saw lightning connector + USB A SanDisk flash drives in the airport [14:32] *nod* [14:32] so wifi it is :-) [14:44] daftykins: at home on A&A but works fine on all other browsers [14:44] jst odd it's behaving so badly on FF [14:46] oh right [14:47] czajkowski: might not hurt to try changing the proxy setting, in Firefox settings, from auto -> to no, although i don't see that having any bearing [14:47] daftykins: ah may try that [14:47] thanks [14:47] np :) === triple-clones is now known as tripleclones