[07:44] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:22] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[08:22] <diplo> Morning all
[08:29] <brobostigon> o/
[08:55] <daftykins> \o
[10:16] <SuperMatt> what's new y'all?
[10:17] <brobostigon> new or not so new, more paperwork.
[10:59] <zmoylan-pi> so much for edisons dream of a paperless office... :-)
[11:52] <diddledan> ello ello
[11:52] <diddledan> https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/10/17218512/youtube-hack-despacito-vevo-music-videos
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> hacking the videos is just wrong... how will the trolls dispense their usual hate and bile when the video changes?
[13:38] <czajkowski> anyone seeing FF become very slow recently on Ubuntu ?
[13:38] <SuperMatt> nope
[13:38] <czajkowski> doingf the same search on FF and chromeim and pages timing out on FF
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> i have seen firefox showing this page is slow messages more as of late...
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> but then i run the most ancient of hardware :-)
[13:39] <daftykins> if you've been through a number of upgrades, it never hurts to have a good profile clear-out
[13:40] <zmoylan-pi> i usually wipe laptops from scratch to avoid cruft
[13:40] <czajkowski> true true
[13:40] <czajkowski> it's becoming painful and unuseable this week
[13:42] <czajkowski> Version 59.0.2 (64-bit)
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> 59.0.2 (32 bit) told ya :-)
[13:48] <daftykins> czajkowski: mmm move your ~/.mozilla i think it is and try afresh, see if it miraculously behaves
[13:49]  * zmoylan-pi currently downloads 64bit xubuntu for a new computer...
[13:53] <daftykins> what's 'new' to zmoylan-pi? ;)
[13:55] <zmoylan-pi> €209 when i got it... http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/6734514/Trail/searchtext%3EHP+WINDOWS.htm
[13:55] <daftykins> ah yes... those
[13:56] <zmoylan-pi> if i can get it running linux it'll be good enough for me... :-)
[13:57] <daftykins> i wonder if it'll be one of those hellish 32-bit EFI implementations
[13:57] <zmoylan-pi> has resisted booting of my trusty 32bit xubuntu so far... so grabbing a 64bit iso atm
[13:58] <zmoylan-pi> lot of gobbledegook in bios relating to tpm i've never seen before...
[13:59] <daftykins> mm TPMs are pretty moot for most use-cases
[14:00] <zmoylan-pi> my gut instinct when i see something i've never seen before is to blame it... :-)
[14:01] <zmoylan-pi> upto now, to install linux, enter bios, disable uefi, disable secure boot. instert usb key, turn on...
[14:02] <daftykins> there's absolutely zero reason to avoid EFI
[14:03] <zmoylan-pi> i like a good old fashioned bios... :-)
[14:03] <daftykins> it's typically emulated now so often buggy, it's actually less likely to work
[14:03] <zmoylan-pi> good enough when they came along a few years after i started using pcs... :-)
[14:09] <daftykins> often fighting new standards gets you burnt in one way or another though
[14:10] <zmoylan-pi> if it doesn't just work then the new standard is crap... :-)
[14:13] <czajkowski> daftykins: ho would I do that?
[14:13] <czajkowski> daftykins: ie move ot to there?
[14:13] <czajkowski> where
[14:13] <daftykins> czajkowski: in a terminal, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[14:13] <zmoylan-pi> just rename it i suppose?
[14:13] <daftykins> then reverse them to revert back
[14:14] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: on those cheap machines they tried to screw over anyone dumping Windows by doing this whole 32-bit EFI thing a lot of the time, not sure if it *is* the case with that model - but we saw it a lot
[14:14] <daftykins> standard 64-bit EFIs didn't give as much grief, though some were still hardcoded to look for the windows boot image etc of course
[14:14] <daftykins> not had any trouble with kit i've used though, oddly
[14:14] <zmoylan-pi> thanks for the heads up daftykins, i like a challenge... and a reason to hold a new grudge against ms... >:-)
[14:15] <daftykins> if you buy cheap, you kinda deserve the hassle :D
[14:16] <zmoylan-pi> it's kinda why i went with hp.  as often as they've annoyed me they're generic enough to work the way i want
[14:17] <czajkowski> daftykins: ahhhh
[14:18] <zmoylan-pi> speed difference?
[14:20] <daftykins> i think that was just the initial eureka :)
[14:20] <czajkowski> zmoylan-pi: nope diddly squat
[14:20] <czajkowski> baffling
[14:20] <czajkowski> and annoying as all my work stuff is done on FF
[14:20] <zmoylan-pi> or now buried in adverts and popups... :-)
[14:21] <daftykins> could still be a DNS element to it
[14:21] <daftykins> are you at home on a domestic broadband service, or?
[14:21] <zmoylan-pi> is system faster in chromium?
[14:28] <zmoylan-pi> 64bit xubuntu boots live in a few seconds... \o/
[14:28] <daftykins> but will it boot once installed to eMMC :D
[14:29] <zmoylan-pi> that's to discover later... have to pop to shops for a wifi usb drive i have a coupon... :-)
[14:30] <daftykins> wifi... wat
[14:31] <zmoylan-pi> it's a sandisk usb drive with a batter and wifi. you can run an app on android and ios and copy/write/stream data to them. handy for when you want to send a few files to/from a mate with ios and can't otg them
[14:32] <zmoylan-pi> because a usb drive with a lightning connector is more expensive
[14:32] <daftykins> ah i saw lightning connector + USB A SanDisk flash drives in the airport
[14:32] <daftykins> *nod*
[14:32] <zmoylan-pi> so wifi it is :-)
[14:44] <czajkowski> daftykins: at home on A&A but works fine on all other browsers
[14:44] <czajkowski> jst odd it's behaving so badly on FF
[14:46] <daftykins> oh right
[14:47] <daftykins> czajkowski: might not hurt to try changing the proxy setting, in Firefox settings, from auto -> to no, although i don't see that having any bearing
[14:47] <czajkowski> daftykins: ah may try that
[14:47] <czajkowski> thanks
[14:47] <daftykins> np :)