[05:48] <ricotz> mamarley, hi, did you drop the 4.16 patch on purpose?
[10:13] <ricotz> soee, are you running 396.18 already?
[10:13] <mamarley> ricotz: I did; it no longer seems necessary.
[10:15] <ricotz> mamarley, I see, I didn't test without it yet
[10:17] <soee> ricotz: 390.48
[10:18] <soee> I'm waitig for them to land in ppa
[10:18] <soee> *the new one
[10:19] <soee> mamarley: the one in your staging ppa are ready?
[10:19] <ricotz> soee, ok, I am not comfortable to upload it there, since it breaks vulkan
[10:20] <ricotz> mamarley, ^
[10:40] <mamarley> soee: I am running the package from my staging PPA and besides the vulkan-breaking thing, it works fine if you want to try it out.  Keep in mind that this does drop GeForce 400/500 support, so if you have one of those cards, you will need to stay on the 390 driver.
[10:41] <mamarley> (This is contrary to the information posted on the download page, but I tried it on such a card to find out for sure and it didn't work.)
[10:42] <ricotz> mamarley, the release notes state it still is Fermi support
[10:42] <ricotz> aahh
[11:02] <soee> mamarley: i'm on 1060
[11:03] <soee> the vulkan problem is from Nvidia devs side ?
[11:30] <mamarley> soee: I'm pretty sure that is the case.
[13:42] <soee> on the devtalk @ nvidia.com user posted this: libnvidia-glvkspirv.so has to be added to NV_GLX_LIBRARIES in ebuild and then it runs fine again. 
[13:42] <soee> this can be done by packagers?
[13:42] <soee> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1032079/dota2-seems-to-be-broken-with-396-18-and-vulkan/?offset=1
[13:48] <mamarley> soee: That file does indeed seem to not be installed by the current packaging.  Let me have a look…
[13:50] <mamarley> That does seem to fix it.
[13:58] <mamarley> soee: But that only seems to apply to Bionic, and I didn't think you were running Bionic?
[13:59] <mamarley> (The file is installed correctly in the old packaging which is used on everything but Bionic.)
[13:59] <ricotz> oh noes
[14:02] <ricotz> yeah for dlopen'ed libraries :(
[14:03] <mamarley> Ah, it makes sense that it is dlopened because if it was linked normally, it would just fail to start instead of crashing.  I should have thought of that.
[14:04] <ricotz> the package build would fail in the first place
[14:05] <mamarley> Yeah, that too.
[14:05] <ricotz> soee, thanks! :)
[14:06] <mamarley> I just uploaded a fixed package for Bionic.
[14:07] <ricotz> mamarley, oh, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/red/+sourcepub/8980247/+listing-archive-extra
[14:08] <mamarley> ricotz: Is the missing library added to that build?
[14:09] <ricotz> yes
[14:13] <soee> mamarley: yes, im on Xenial till Neon jumps to Bionic
[14:30] <soee> And it can't be fixed in Xenial ?
[14:31] <mamarley> soee: I think ricotz is looking at that.
[15:48] <ricotz> mamarley, with the fermi support dropped, I can't test on xenial easily
[16:06] <soee> i can :D
[16:09] <ricotz> soee, so simply calling vulkaninfo segfaults even with libnvidia-glvkspirv.so.396.18 installed?
[16:10] <ricotz> does "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/nvidia-396 vulkaninfo" work?
[16:14] <ricotz> does "__GL_NextGenCompiler=0 vulkaninfo" work?
[16:19] <soee> ricotz: i need some ppa with xenial driver to install and i can test
[16:19] <soee> i check if mamarley has anything in hes
[16:20] <ricotz> soee, yes, use his staging ppa
[16:24] <soee> brb
[16:27] <soee_> ricotz: i have 396 for mamarley ppa installed
[16:27] <soee_> __GL_NextGenCompiler=0 vulkaninfo | pastebinit
[16:27] <soee_> https://pastebin.com/ijcA0bKS
[16:28] <soee_> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/nvidia-396 vulkaninfo | pastebinit
[16:28] <soee_> https://pastebin.com/QwN3wfjC
[16:29] <ricotz> soee_, ok, and vulkaninfo alone fails?
[16:29] <soee_> vulkaninfo | pastebinit
[16:29] <soee_> https://pastebin.com/DA70Gkje
[16:30] <ricotz> soee_, did you say vulkan isn't working for you?
[16:30] <ricotz> didn't ...
[16:30] <soee_> no, that is what you both say i think :)
[16:30] <soee_> taht vulkan is broken with this driver version
[16:30] <ricotz> ok, the bionic package was missing this library and failed there
[16:31] <soee> so xenial is not affected?
[16:32] <ricotz> obviously not, since the packaging is different and this library was never missing
[16:33] <soee> so to sum it up, now it shoudl run on all versions fine after you fixed bionic build ?
[16:33] <ricotz> yes
[16:33] <soee> great! thank you very much :)
[16:34] <soee> i should be able to try playing Tomb Raider with vulcan when Feral releases it later this month