[00:06] <Hanumaan> how to install dd_rescue in ubuntu 16.04?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: https://askubuntu.com/questions/991982/need-help-installing-ddrescue-on-ubuntu-16-04-thumb-drive (gddrescue is the name of the package, which contains the program ddrescue).
[00:10] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: is ddrescue is same as dd_rescue?
[00:11] <ramrebol> Hi. I want to sleep my laptop (hybernate) and I want to wake up for it self after, for example, 8 hours. Is there a way to do this?
[00:13] <guiverc> ddrescue is a GNU tool, dd_rescue is a tool by Kurt Garloff - https://askubuntu.com/questions/211578/whats-the-difference-between-ddrescue-gddrescue-and-dd-rescue
[00:15] <kostkon> ramrebol, rtcwake
[00:15] <ramrebol> I can use "sleep" command, but I want to hipernate my pc for some hours
[00:15] <ramrebol> thaks kostkon , I will test it
[00:15] <kostkon> ramrebol, man rtcwake  first
[00:15] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: so far as I know there is no package dd_resxue .
[00:16] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: About this I'm looking for: http://www.kalysto.org/utilities/dd_rhelp/index.en.html
[00:17] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: there is a specification about dd_rescue in that tool
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: reading .
[00:18] <ramrebol> kostkon: I'm reading the man now, of course. Thanks for the advice
[00:19] <kostkon> ramrebol, np
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: Nope, not the same .
[00:27] <Bashing-om> !recovery | Hanumaan
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: bawww ^^ .
[00:28] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: as of I have a failing HDD and trying to repair
[00:28] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: So as a process want to backup existing failing HDD
[00:29] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[00:30] <Hanumaan> Bashing-om: thanks good link can those tools also repair btrfs?
[00:38] <nubcake> hi, is there a way to restore a clonezilla image from a source hdd (was 1.5tb but only 400gb used) to a smaller target hdd (1tb) ? i tried with the beginner mode, didn't work.
[00:40] <Bashing-om> Hanumaan: Ouch ! I have never used btrfs. No knowledge here in that respect.
[00:40] <leftyfb> nubcake: https://github.com/aoakley/cotswoldjam/tree/master/raspbian-shrink
[00:44] <ramrebol> kostkon: rtcwake works perfect!   Thanks !
[00:48] <nubcake> leftyfb: thanks, will try
[01:04] <Budgii> does anyone know how to use xrdp?
[01:14] <reev> alo
[01:16] <Budgii> alo reev
[01:16] <reev> WHats crackin
[01:16] <Budgii> Trying to get remote connection to my RPi
[01:17] <backnforth> Hi
[01:17] <Budgii> Hi backnforth
[01:17] <backnforth> I'm trying to change the stream output on my computer but it won't let me change it to hdmi
[01:17] <backnforth> Budgii, how goes?
[01:18] <reev> Tough luck mate, n, I have less clues than you
[01:20] <Budgii> backnforth, great and you?
[01:21] <backnforth> Budgii, Oh pretty good
[01:23] <grigoriLegend> Hi guys, what would be a better way to create a string generator? I need the following format: 35VPK16491768. I currently generate the values separately and concatenate them into one string. I am sure there is a better way to do this. Any suggestions ?
[01:23] <grigoriLegend>         int n1 = rand() % 99 + 1;
[01:23] <grigoriLegend>         int n2 = rand() % 100000000 + 1;
[01:23] <grigoriLegend>         int n = rand() % ('Z' - 'A' + 1);
[01:23] <grigoriLegend>         int m = rand() % ('Z' - 'A' + 1);
[01:23] <grigoriLegend>         int k = rand() % ('Z' - 'A' + 1);
[01:30] <k12buntu> anyone on?
[01:31] <leftyfb> !ask | k12buntu
[01:31] <k12buntu> nope, ok
[01:32] <leftyfb> :/
[01:33] <buyaka> hey all. has anyone here succesfully setup multi-monitor display across two gpus - one amd and one nvidia?
[01:33] <buyaka> so one monitor per gpu
[01:34] <leftyfb> buyaka: Are you taking a survey?
[01:34] <buyaka>  just wanted to pick their brain
[01:35] <buyaka> not having tremendous success googling. Some advice says I need to edit xorg.conf and others say I shouldnt have to
[01:50] <m0rd3cai> hey does anyone know where Libreoffice is installed to? I cant find the directory and I need it for my nextcloud server.
[01:50] <Checkmate> can i change my files system /dev/root path to /home
[01:55] <Bashing-om> m0rd3cai: Terminal command ' which libreoffice ' should tell you .
[02:01] <reev> xma?
[02:04] <reev> xma?
[02:04] <chris000> yes
[02:05] <chris000> did you make this channel?
[02:06] <leftyfb> chris000: can we help you with something?
[02:07] <chris000> no I'm good thank you
[02:08] <OverDose> net.org
[02:14] <Thete> Is there a trick to get ubuntu to see sata devices in a threadripper machine with nvme raid?
[02:16] <Thete> sees them fine in AHCI mode
[02:16] <Thete> but I really don't wanna have to flip modes every time I want to boot buntu
[02:20] <m0rd3cai> Bashing-om: that returned nothing. I installed through apt. checked apt-cache and just shows package for download. not install directory. not in /var/lib/ not in /bin/libreoffice/ i cant find it
[02:26] <user__> i'm having some problem booting up my full-disk-encrypted ubuntu box. it keeps saying my passcode is wrong. is there a way to boot intoa minimal system and manually mount the encrypted part?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> m0rd3cai: Maybe then it is not installed ?? What shows ' dpkg -l libreoffice ' ?
[02:37] <user__> nvm, fixed it
[02:41] <michael2> hi all, does anyone know why `modprobe -l' keeps throwing "error: -l invalid option" ?
[02:41] <michael2> or any other way to list loaded modules?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> michael2: ' lsmod ' to list loaded modules .
[02:46] <michael2> Bashing-om: that works thanks. I think I found a way to browse available modules too. any idea how to see which module (driver)  was loaded for the wifi chipset?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> michael2: ' sudo lshw -C Network ' look in the config line for the driver .
[02:50] <MegaManSec> for some reason my full-disk-encrypted ubuntu box won't decrypt unless i boot into recovery mode, enter the password, then just press 'continue' to pass the recovery part
[02:50] <MegaManSec> any ideas why this could be?
[02:51] <michael2> Bashing-om: ah, thanks!
[02:51] <Bashing-om> michael2: :)
[03:43] <s10gopal> !ping
[04:05] <Kart> Help
[04:05] <Kart> How can I get some help?
[04:06] <Bashing-om> !ask | Kart
[04:09] <Kumool> is it possible to install something using wine into the shared windows partition?
[04:29] <guiverc_d> Kumool, possibly (depending on install), but would greatly depend on what & where files are installed.  if it uses libs (dlls etc) they don't generally store this in same location...   (note: i'm no expert - some files I know worked)
[04:44] <Kumool> huh... alright, thanks guiverc
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:19] <vlt> MegaManSec: The cryptsetup binary might be missing from the initramfs image.
[05:21] <vlt> MegaManSec: No, you wrote "unless" :D  Then check /proc/cmdline if the correct device is listed there.
[05:23] <shevchuk> Guys, what would be IPv6 equivalent to 127.0.3.1, ::3:1?
[05:29] <shevchuk> Ah, I see: "The IPv6 standard assigns only a single address for loopback: ::1"  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Localhost
[05:42] <Draconiator> ...I MAY be a Grade A dork....setting up Xubunto for my netbook via VirtualBox, installing an older os in another VirtualBox....
[06:17] <fly> hi. my machine fails to boot, but there is a splash screen so I don't know what is going on. what to do to make it show the terminal?
[06:20] <Bashing-om> fly: Grub menu -> e key -> boot parameter screen -> remove quiet splash in the linux line .
[06:26] <fly> thanks.
[06:27] <Bashing-om> fly: We await what you come up with :)
[06:40] <Sircle> Hi, I got message from my vps provider that ssh attempts, to some other host, are being made from my vps. How can I check if anyone tempered with my vps? Any logs?
[06:44] <ducasse> Sircle: check all the logs, but if it is compromised they might have taken steps to hide the activity
[06:46] <Sircle> ducasse,  hm. where I can start from
[06:47] <ducasse> auth.log, maybe?
[06:50] <Sircle> 258
[06:52] <OhPie> I'd like to use unbuntu to access tor networks, am I safe?
[06:54] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[06:54] <raddy> I have just configured a live usb version of ubuntu 18.01
[06:55] <guiverc> OhPie, safe in what way?
[06:55] <raddy> It didn't show any Windows partitions after bootup
[06:55] <EriC^^> raddy: try in a terminal "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdX"
[06:55] <raddy> Ohh okk
[06:56] <OhPie> I want to download dark shit on from the darkweb onto my ubuntu instance and I dont' want to be traced.  I'm behind a VPN.  Can I use ubuntu to ensure all my use of Unbuntu isn't seen?
[06:56] <EriC^^> raddy: replace sdX with your disk
[06:56] <OhPie> I want to do things the police don't want me to do.
[06:57] <ducasse> raddy: 18.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:57] <OhPie> I won't describe those things.
[06:57] <guiverc> OhPie, it'll be as safe as using Tor can be...   (if you don't understand how tor works; it's off-topic here as not Ubuntu related)
[06:57] <raddy> Ohhhh
[06:58] <raddy> fdisk -l itself not listing the ntfs ssd volumes
[06:58] <OhPie> k.  thank you.  Could you recommend the most current and available safest tor client for ubuntu?
[06:58] <raddy> Is that because the ntfs drive is broken ?
[06:58] <guiverc> OhPie, i use Tor happily from by Ubuntu here, but I realize the flaws in it and they are no concern for what I do
[06:58] <guiverc> (flaws in Tor - not Ubuntu)
[06:58] <raddy> I have configureded ubuntu in pen drive cause i could not boot windows 7
[06:59] <guiverc> (weaknesses would be a better word than flaws too)
[06:59] <OhPie> guiverc <<| that's informative, thank you sir.
[07:00] <OhPie> What are the most common security issues with Ubuntu in 2018.. Considering it's 2018? Outside of Sectre and so on?
[07:00] <guiverc> OhPie, sorry I can't offer the best advice on tor - I use the default packages only
[07:01] <raddy> Please reply
[07:01] <OhPie> My approach is this.  i want to spread tor use.  For typicall use.  Not for bad reasons.
[07:01] <OhPie> I want tor to be standard data sharing...
[07:01] <OhPie> more than it is
[07:01] <OhPie> and I want to use ubuntu to do it
[07:01] <Boyette> god morgon Ohpie
[07:02] <OhPie> before I can do that I need to know it's security limits.
[07:02] <Boyette> Hur mår du Ohpie?
[07:02] <OhPie> thought I'd hit this channel first, being a newb
[07:02] <Boyette> du är svensk?
[07:03] <OhPie> Boyette <<| don't try to locate me by non english data please, not kind.
[07:03] <Boyette> lol
[07:03] <Boyette> it was funny though
[07:03] <OhPie> ⓛⓞⓥⓔ
[07:03] <OhPie> it was funny
[07:04] <OhPie> If you can locate me it'd be nice.  Then I would know if there's a hole in my purchased product.
[07:04] <OhPie> Then I could take action to change it.
[07:04] <OhPie> and improve it.
[07:05] <OhPie> Tor is amazing for being private.
[07:05] <OhPie> We need 10 more ideas.
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[07:05] <OhPie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_i_8OfQIeE
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> OhPie: only ubuntu support here please
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> !ot | OhPie
[07:05] <OhPie> I thought this was about ubuntu, and not support.
[07:06] <Boyette> i would start using ubuntu 18,04 the newer the better.. track and trace is focussing mostly on major operating systems.. not when they are not released yet
[07:06] <guiverc> It is Ubuntu (Support)
[07:06] <Boyette> I actually have a problem related to ubuntu.. will you guys be able to help me?
[07:06] <OhPie> oh, oops.  I apologize everyone.
[07:06]  * OhPie slurks aways
[07:07] <ducasse> Boyette: please just ask, we'll try
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: only if you ask a question
[07:07] <Boyette> i have a problem.. my thunderbird give: failed to connect to server
[07:07] <Boyette> but my thunderbird didnt change.. so i think its related to something which is broken in ubuntu
[07:08] <Boyette> or misconfiguration
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: did you enter your isp l:p correctly?
[07:08] <Boyette> the configuration of my email accounts did not change
[07:08] <Boyette> i have multiple accounts configured there
[07:08] <Boyette> all do not connect suddenly
[07:08] <Boyette> before this happend i was deleting qemu
[07:08] <chan201> How did you do that?
[07:09] <Boyette> i think something went wrong related to that
[07:09] <chan201> OhPie
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: are you connected to the internet? using router/firewall?
[07:09] <Boyette> my internetconnection is fine
[07:09] <Boyette> im using the same box right now
[07:09] <Boyette> browser doesnt have problems
[07:09] <OhPie> ??? - <chan201> OhPie ???
[07:09] <Boyette> and as far as I know other applications also dont have problems
[07:10] <OhPie> Regarding Ubuntu in general. Would you agree this is a good security ressource? - https://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[07:11] <ducasse> Boyette: try closing thunderbird, run 'sudo apt install --reinstall thunderbird', then open it again to see if it works now
[07:11] <Boyette> ok doing it now
[07:11] <Boyette> downloading
[07:11] <Boyette> unpacking
[07:11] <Boyette> done
[07:11] <cfhowlett> OhPie, you did notice the date of that page, did you not?
[07:12] <ducasse> OhPie: if you want security advice, i'd try ##security
[07:12] <Boyette> hmm now it crashes
[07:12] <OhPie> ducasse; yes.  So I asked.  Why because I'm what you call a leetch.
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: wich ubuntu version and thunderbird version are we talking about?
[07:13] <OhPie> I was +b from security on freenode for asking stupid questions.
[07:14] <Boyette> https://pastebin.com/er199jXv
[07:14] <OhPie> how are new users expected to migration from windows to linux systems with pretentious linux community fucktards?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> OhPie: stop the offtopic please
[07:14] <cfhowlett> enough of that
[07:14] <Boyette> TV 52.6.0 x64
[07:14] <Boyette> TB 52.6.0 x64
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !info thunderbird
[07:15] <Hanumaan> I got this text https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/87Tb4KD7r8/ from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery want to know all three commands have to be executed consecutively on the same imagefile?
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: ubuntu version?
[07:15] <Boyette> 18.04
[07:16] <OhPie> https://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us/form
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: #ubuntu+1 for 18.04 support
[07:16] <OhPie> ok off topic.
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !info thunderbird bionic
[07:16] <Boyette> i know
[07:17] <Boyette> but they are slow :P
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: why do you ask here then?
[07:17] <Boyette> because you guys are good :P
[07:17] <cfhowlett> Boyette, it's not released yet.  it's not supported here.  not complicated.
[07:17] <Boyette> well
[07:17] <Boyette> release date is less then 2 weeks
[07:17] <Boyette> maybe we can practice already
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Boyette: just join the other channel please
[07:17] <Boyette> ok
[07:23] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[07:24] <raddy> Is user data be retained in ubuntu live USB?
[07:24] <raddy> Like apps installs and profile data ?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !persistence | raddy normally no.  with persistence, yes.
[07:26] <raddy> cfhowlett: so, i can do that only via LiveCD and Live USB, or LiveCD not required ?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> raddy, rather difficult to save anything to a CD yes?  But you can do persistence on a USB
[07:28] <raddy> cfhowlett: my question is, i don't have cd rom drive. so, i can enable perisistance on one connected usb pen drive which is also acting as liveusb
[07:29] <cfhowlett> if you follow the instructions you can convert your ubuntu live USB to a live USB with persistence
[07:48] <Sircle> putting port 22 and port 2828  (multiple ports to connect with) is fine in etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[07:49] <ducasse> you can only use one, i think
[07:52] <Sircle> Will this block all outgoing ssh iptables -I OUTPUT -d 0.0.0.0/24  -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT
[07:54] <Sircle> ducasse, https://serverfault.com/a/284574
[07:58] <ducasse> Sircle: interesting, haven't seen that before
[08:21] <spajderix> My ubuntu 17.10 won't boot from default option in grub. When I go to advanced and select the latest kernel it will boot without issues. I've checked /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the default entry points to the latest kernel. Is there anything else I can check to see what's going on?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> spajderix: is your system up to date to latest?
[08:23] <spajderix> yup
[08:23] <spajderix> checked that 15 minutes ago
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> spajderix: wich kernel version doesnt boot?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[08:25] <spajderix> lotuspsychje: 4.13.0-38-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 14 15:20:44 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:25] <spajderix> It boots from advanced menu, but does not boot from default option
[08:26] <EriC^^> spajderix: what happens when it doesn't boot?
[08:26] <EriC^^> usually the default one is the latest kernel.. so that's odd
[08:27] <spajderix> EriC^^: just blank screen, pressing ctrl-alt-del reboots the machine and it goes all over again, until i select advanced and pick any one of the available kernels
[08:28] <rory> What's a better way to do something like this, without chaning grep commands?
[08:28] <rory> grep -v \.css | grep -v \.js | grep -v \.jpg | grep -v \.gif | grep -v \.woff | grep -v \.png
[08:31] <spajderix> rory: grep -vE '(\.css|\.js|\.jpg|\.gif|\.woff|\.png)'
[08:31] <osse> grep -vE '\.(css|js|jpg|gif|woff|png)'   \o/
[08:35] <rory> neat
[08:35] <rory> thanks
[08:35] <guiverc> spajderix, i'm not as expert as others, but I can't think of any reason for your issue unless some character/bit is stuffed in grub.cfg; so I'd do a `diff` of the what works & what doesn't looking for a bit/char error -- sun spot during write maybe :)
[08:35] <Guest48380> hello guys. i installed ubuntu 17.10 , i want to install lamp.. which is the best tutorial to follow for desktop
[08:35] <nareshkk>  hello guys. i installed ubuntu 17.10 , i want to install lamp.. which is the best tutorial to follow for desktop
[08:36] <rory> nareshkk: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[08:36] <rory> nareshkk: it says for 16.04 but it will also work for 17.10
[08:36] <nareshkk> ok thanks
[08:37] <raddy> Can i convert a liveusb session to persistant without the help of another usb pen drive ?
[08:38] <skaface82> i guess youd just do an install and then copy the files across from your usb drive?
[08:41] <spajderix> guiverc: did a diff, found nothing
[08:43] <Hanumaan> I got this text https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/87Tb4KD7r8/ from this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery want to know all three commands have to be executed consecutively on the same imagefile?
[08:43] <guiverc> spajderix, suspected as such  (it was a hail mary..)  - my only other thought was if you always try default first, advanced second - two default boots may work (equally hail-mary, but would maybe point to hardware failing????)
[08:44] <EriC^^> spajderix: did you try booting without quiet splash in the kernel line?
[08:45] <spajderix> EriC^^: not yet, let me try that
[08:49] <nareshkk> rory, thanks i am done..but after this its not allowing to create any folder in www directory
[08:50] <spajderix> EriC^^: Ha! That worked! I wonder why, though. Anyway thank you for your suggestion
[08:52] <rory> nareshkk: That is probably permissions. Apache runs as a dedicated user called www-data who owns that directory, so www-data is the only user who can write there
[08:53] <rory> sudo usermod -a -G www-data $USER
[08:53] <rory> that command will add your current user to the www-data group
[08:53] <rory> check also this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/proper-permissions-for-web-server-s-directory
[08:57] <spajderix> It seems I've been to quick to be happy. I did 3 test reboots and on the third one I get: Mounting root filesystem ... Failed t oconnect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning. Any ideas on that?
[08:59] <spajderix> Even better now: "systemd-udevd:240" blocked for more than 120 seconds" followed by some call trace messages
[09:03] <s10gopal> TJ-, 4.13.0-38-generic #43~lp1745646ThreeReverts solved my problem , so it will be fixed in 16.04lts too ?
[09:06] <generalfluffles> any games in linux that are not dumb?
[09:06] <s10gopal> generalfluffles, try steam games
[09:07] <Skaface82> tux racer :-)
[09:07] <generalfluffles> okay
[09:07] <generalfluffles> tux racer
[09:07] <generalfluffles> ha
[09:07] <generalfluffles> i played that when i was 12
[09:07] <Skaface82> i like to play runescape sometimes
[09:08] <Skaface82> thats pretty good
[09:08] <generalfluffles> meh
[09:08] <generalfluffles> windows has more access in gaming unlike linux
[09:08] <hateball> generalfluffles: if you want to discuss games there are other channels for that on freenode, like #gamingonlinux or #steamlug
[09:08] <hateball> generalfluffles: as this channel is for Ubuntu support
[09:09] <generalfluffles> fine then
[09:33] <Sircle> finally I find NO way to know who /which process is initiating outbound ssh connections. Is it so hard?
[09:35] <guiverc> qd
[09:35] <Sircle> what?
[09:35] <guiverc> (I dropped phone on keyboard in error)
[09:38] <akik> Sircle: you can view the connections with "sudo lsof -i"
[09:40] <akik> Sircle: you can view the connections with "sudo lsof -i:22"
[09:41] <Sircle> it just displays and exits. does not keeps on listening
[09:42] <akik> Sircle: it'll output the connections. use it from the terminal
[09:42] <Sircle> I need all connections
[09:43] <akik> Sircle: yes that'll give you the list
[09:43] <Sircle> it just displays and exits. does not keeps on listening
[09:44] <akik> Sircle: yes that's what it does. you can build a loop around it
[09:45] <akik> Sircle: i'm looking for an option in lsof that would loop it
[09:45] <Sircle> what is meant by this? Apr 11 00:51:38 u kernel: [ 5131.935862] ssh connectionIN= OUT=ens3 SRC=---some ip here --- DST=168.235.95.234 LEN=52 TOS=0x08 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=58395 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=52992 DPT=22 WINDOW=321 RES=0x00 ACK URGP=0
[09:47] <akik> Sircle: there's option -r for repeat mode
[09:47] <akik> Sircle: that is iptables output for a ssh connection to 168.235.95.234
[09:49] <Sircle> what connection made to 168.. to a request was made from it?
[09:50] <akik> Sircle: DPT=22 <- destination port ssh
[09:50] <Sircle> so -- some ip-- tried to ssh to 168...? akik
[09:50] <akik> Sircle: yes
[09:51] <Sircle> akik,  can I trace who/which user made this ssh connection?
[09:52] <akik> Sircle: it's in lsof output
[09:52] <akik> Sircle: if the connection is no more, no
[09:52] <Sircle> akik,  lsof shows current. The line I pasted is past
[09:52] <akik> Sircle: you could find it from user's logs
[09:53] <akik> .bash_history keeps the shell history, but it's not 100% certain that the commands are there
[09:54] <Sircle> akik,  someone did this command without shell
[09:55] <Sircle> or a user who didnt even had a shel. leg. apache
[10:00] <snufft> Hi everyone! I'm trying to resurrect a ubuntu 16.04 install and am having a little trouble. When I run sudo apt-get update, it tells me that a key is invalid, but i can't find it in apt-key list and don't really know how ot get rid of it
[10:00] <snufft> also, when i run sudo spkg --configure -a it tells me that it's configuring mariadb and just sits on that line. i can control + x to stop it, but that's it
[10:01] <snufft> does anyone have a solution for eihter of those?
[10:04] <Guest88030> snufft: maybe you can check keyserver.ubuntu.com for the right key?
[10:05] <JimBuntu> snufft, we would probably need to see the output from running the commands... but overall... find the key and remove it... apt-get purge mariadb
[10:07] <cariveri> hi.
[10:07] <cariveri> Whats the best way to mirror the package installation on a second ubuntu ?
[10:08] <JimBuntu> You should be able to get a list of installed packages from your package manager(s). Then you can apt-get download from the primary, scp to the secondary and install... if that's what you meant.
[10:09] <cariveri> JimBuntu: can I get just a list that can be piped into apt-get install on the secondary machine?
[10:10] <JimBuntu> cariveri, should be able to. Are you using apt?
[10:10] <cariveri> yes
[10:10] <JimBuntu> I think the biggest hassle would be if you have additional PPAs.
[10:10] <cariveri> I avoid using PPAs , so should not be a lot.
[10:13] <JimBuntu> cariveri, `apt list --installed` to get your list... probably want to `cut` that list at the "/" and pipe into `apt-get install -y`
[10:14] <cariveri> JimBuntu: hm. yea. apt doesnt get me a list of package names right away :(
[10:15] <JimBuntu> cariveri, alternatively, you should be able to use `dpkg -l` as well.
[10:20] <osse> I am trying to unmount a directory but I get "target is busy". How can I find out what is keeping it occupied?
[10:22] <TJ-> cariveri: best way is to use "debfoster --show-keepers" (after doing "sudo debfoster --quiet" )
[10:22] <brainwash> osse: lsof /path/to/directory
[10:22] <JimBuntu> TJ-, are you actually simply the best bot ever written?
[10:23] <TJ-> JimBuntu: error; does not compute
[10:23] <osse> brainwash: no output
[10:23] <JimBuntu> TJ-, props to your ma and pa, they had mad neural networking skills.
[10:24] <TJ-> JimBuntu: All it takes is read man-pages :)
[10:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:26] <Sircle> How to allow ssh traffic(regardless of port number )  (inbound or outbound in ANY and all cases) for specific users only?
[10:29] <osse> brainwash: it helps to stp the NFS server ... :p
[10:56] <Siamaster> Hi, I have a 3 hard drives, where I have Ubuntu on one, Win 10 on another and the third is just my personal files
[10:56] <Siamaster> this is the 3rd time this happens to me on Ubuntu that suddenly, I can not read anything from that hard drive with my personal files
[10:57] <Siamaster> It can work some minutes after I've started then suddenly it stops working, I can navigate and see some files, but can't open any of them
[10:57] <Siamaster> it happened twice some days ago and now it happened today again
[10:58] <Siamaster> it has not happened on Win10 yet but I have not been using Win10 alot
[10:58] <Siamaster> is my harddrive dying?
[10:58] <Siamaster> should I try to remount that drive?
[10:58] <Siamaster> do you have any ideas?
[10:59] <Siamaster> if I restart, it will probably work again
[11:01] <guiverc> Siamaster, to look at HDD health, use `smartctl` (found in smartmontools) or if using gui, `gnome-disks`
[11:01] <EriC^^> Siamaster: install smartmontools and run sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX on the disk
[11:02] <EriC^^> upload the results somewhere, also when it happens if you type "dmesg" does it say anything about the disk?
[11:02] <Siamaster> ok, I'll do that now ty
[11:03] <snufft> Guest88030: ended up deleting the key, thanks for the suggestion though :)
[11:04] <Siamaster> The terminal entered a "semi-gui" mode for postfix confiugration
[11:04] <snufft> JimBuntu:  i understand. I think i've found a way around those particular problems though, thanks anyway :)
[11:04] <Siamaster> how do I exit that window?
[11:04] <snufft> and I dind't have to purge mariadb, thank god, haha
[11:04] <guiverc> Siamaster, i'd suggest just picking 'no config'
[11:04] <Siamaster> there is a <Ok> button (?)
[11:04] <Siamaster> ok, should I just close the terminal?
[11:05] <Siamaster> I can't get by that window, and when clicking the close button, it warns me about ongoing process
[11:05] <guiverc> Siamaster, I installed smartmontools before to check 'smartmontools' - I got the message you got & just hit no config (or something like that), but i loaded from conig - I'd not close, but no-config & enter
[11:06] <Siamaster> There is no no-config alternative
[11:06] <Siamaster> I'll just close it and try again
[11:06] <Siamaster> I came to the same window
[11:07] <Siamaster> it's not reacting to any keyboard input
[11:08] <guiverc> Siamaster, how did you load smartmon* - from term command (sudo apt..) or how?
[11:08] <Siamaster> yes
[11:08] <Siamaster> sudo apt
[11:09] <guiverc> i used arrow keys to tell it postfix no config & hit enter... it then continued install...
[11:11] <Siamaster> Hmm, I can't do that, the arrow keys just scrolls
[11:11] <codebot_> I'm trying to send an email using terminal. i did this ->
[11:11] <codebot_> sendmail aasifk106@gmail.com < /home/aasif/Desktop/Software/email/email.txt
[11:11] <hateball> Siamaster: laptop? fn-lock causing arrows to be pgup/pgdn ?
[11:12] <codebot_> but it's showing an error: sendmail: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587
[11:12] <geirha> hit TAB to change focus in a whiptail tui
[11:12] <Siamaster> ah
[11:12] <Siamaster> need to press tab
[11:12] <Siamaster> https://askubuntu.com/questions/87872/how-do-i-accept-the-configuration-screen-that-pops-up-when-installing-postfix?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[11:12] <guiverc> Siamaster, the [curses] postfix config screen is where i used arrow keys to select 'no config' (at top of list from memory) and just pressed enter
[11:13] <codebot_> I'm trying to send an email using terminal. I did this -> sendmail <myemailid> < /path/to/file/that/will/act/as/email/content
[11:13] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:13] <codebot_> but it's showing an error
[11:13] <OhPie> hi
[11:13] <codebot_> sendmail: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587
[11:14] <raddy> I have enabled persistent boot option in Ubuntu 17.04 after setting the partition in my pen drive
[11:14] <codebot_> I'm trying to send an email using terminal. I did this -> sendmail <myemailid> < /path/to/file/that/will/act/as/email/content
[11:14] <codebot_> does someone know a way around the error that i'm getting
[11:14] <codebot_> sendmail: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587
[11:14] <raddy> Is persistent feature reduces performance and wear out the pen drive more quickly ?
[11:16] <scootergrisen> How can i know where a package (steam) stores the translation files?
[11:16] <geirha> dpkg -L packagename   lists all the files it installed
[11:17] <codebot_> does someone know a way to send email through terminal?
[11:18] <Siamaster> I get "A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options."
[11:18] <leftyfb> codebot_: what have you found so far?
[11:18] <scootergrisen> But they are now included in the package. They are downloaded when steam is run i think
[11:18] <codebot_> leftyfb,  I'm trying to send an email using terminal. I did this -> sendmail <myemailid> < /path/to/file/that/will/act/as/email/content
[11:18] <Siamaster> and when I do  sudo fdisk -l. sdc is not even mentioned.
[11:18] <scootergrisen> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/i386/steam/filelist
[11:18] <Siamaster> that's the name (or path?) of my drive
[11:19] <codebot_> leftyfb, but its showing an error: sendmail: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587
[11:19] <leftyfb> codebot_: try "mail"
[11:19] <Siamaster> perhaps I should restart and run that command while the disk is still working
[11:19] <Siamaster> I'll come back
[11:19] <codebot_> leftyfb, just for curiosity what does this mean? sendmail: Cannot open smtp.gmail.com:587
[11:19] <leftyfb> codebot_: ok, so that's an issue talking with gmail
[11:19] <hateball> Siamaster: do you have any errors in dmesg ?
[11:19] <hateball> ..
[11:20] <leftyfb> codebot_: the first result on google for that error message tells you exactly how to fix it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35130119/linux-configuration-ssmtp-cannot-open-smtp-gmail-com587
[11:22] <Siamaster> wow, this time it didn't even work from the beginning
[11:22] <Siamaster> I'll try windows
[11:23] <OhPie> can I play battlefront 2 on untuntu in my windows virtual box? << I have all the hardware required.
[11:24] <hateball> Siamaster: do you have any errors in dmesg ?
[11:25] <hateball> Siamaster: like ATA timeout etc
[11:26] <Siamaster_> Everything worked as normal on Win10
[11:27] <Siamaster_> but in Ubuntu, it failed to mount again when I restarted just now
[11:27] <Siamaster_> and I got a screenshot of, I'll upload it
[11:28] <scootergrisen> Where does Ubuntu store the translation used in steam?
[11:28] <Siamaster_> https://prnt.sc/j3rkht
[11:28] <Siamaster_> It mounts my Windows drive fine, but not F
[11:29] <leftyfb> Siamaster_: did you do what the error message says?
[11:29] <Siamaster_> I was just thinking to do that
[11:29] <Siamaster_> it should be the first one, it sounds reasonable
[11:30] <Siamaster_> but I have to login to Windows?
[11:30] <leftyfb> I would do exactly as it says in the message
[11:30] <Siamaster_> ok, but just to be sure. It wants me to log in to Windows and run that command right?
[11:31] <Siamaster_> yes, it can't be anything else :P
[11:31] <Siamaster_> I'll be back
[11:31] <leftyfb> chkdsk is a Windows command and it literally says "reboot into Windows twice". I'm not sure how that can be interpreted to mean anything from linux
[11:32] <OhPie> https://twitter.com/profile_delete << will improve the future.
[11:32] <leftyfb> !op | OhPie
[11:32] <OhPie> Off topic.  Thanks for the grace.
[11:33] <OhPie> https://www.wikihow.com/Delete-a-Twitter-Account
[11:33] <leftyfb> OhPie: please stop
[11:33] <OhPie> Just sharing.  I use this OS and if it will not support the removal of poisen then I won't use it. - https://www.wikihow.com/Delete-a-Twitter-Account
[11:33] <leftyfb> OhPie: please stop
[11:33] <OhPie> leftyfb <<| Do not stop me from promoting Ubuntu.
[11:34] <OhPie> I will.
[11:34] <guiverc> OhPie, this is a Ubuntu Support room; not for idle chat - that should go in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[11:34] <leftyfb> it's a troll
[11:34] <OhPie> it's 2018, I'm not a troll.
[11:34] <OhPie> Relax your issues.
[11:36] <OhPie> leftyfb <<| why do you care so much: So what. A random person comes in and uses Ubuntu to an Operating system that's designed for open communication to talk about ideas.. and your'e going to shut it down?
[11:37] <leftyfb> OhPie: This is a support channel. Not discussion. Nobody cares about your opinion on twitter
[11:37] <OhPie> why?
[11:37] <guiverc> OhPie, if you're not a troll, please stop acting like one - support chat only in this room.  anything else should go in other rooms
[11:37] <OhPie> It's an open source OS.
[11:37] <JimBuntu> From the channel topic "This channel supports Ubuntu and its official flavors; versions 14.04, 16.04, and 17.10 | bionic/18.04: /join #ubuntu+1 | Unofficial derivatives: use your distro's support channel, not here. "
[11:37] <OhPie> Open INFORMATION man?
[11:38] <Flannel> OhPie: Because it's a busy channel.  Please take non-technical support to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:38] <OhPie> the spirit of Linux is open
[11:38] <OhPie> it's a dead channel
[11:39] <btp> "<OhPie> Relax your issues."
[11:39] <OhPie> ok.  Let's find out about Ubuntu Support.  Are there drivers available for Battlefront 2?
[11:39] <OhPie> Where do I download those drivers sir?
[11:39] <JimBuntu> Drivers... for a game? Drivers... for software?
[11:39] <guiverc> kernel modules (or drivers) are for hardware, and not software
[11:40] <Flannel> OhPie: Battlefront 2 from steam apparently works with Wine
[11:42] <OhPie>  <Flannel> OhPie: Because it's a busy channel.  Please take non-technical support to #ubuntu-offtopic << Busy channel my ass.
[11:43] <OhPie> thank you Flannel
[11:43] <Flannel> OhPie: Regardless, this is for technical support only.  Offtopic stuff belongs elsewhere.  And watch your language.
[11:43] <OhPie> Flannel <<| you watch your user use.
[11:45] <OhPie> Don't .
[11:45] <OhPie> Flannel <<| Did you just kick me for providing input?
[11:46] <carbor02> hey brooo
[11:46] <OhPie> Ubuntu - --on the score.  Unintall in 2018.
[11:47] <carbor02> petit
[11:47] <leftyfb> carbor02: What can we help you with?
[11:48] <snufft> When running sudo update-initramfs -u i get "Warning: /sbin/fsck.etx4 doesn't exist, can't install to initramfs, ignoring" would anyone know how to fix that?
[11:48] <leftyfb> carbor02: carrom: you only need to be in here once
[11:49] <akik> snufft: try installing e2fsprogs
[11:51] <Siamaster> I did exactly that, the command also outputed that it had made some corrections
[11:51] <Siamaster> I restarted twice to windows after that
[11:51] <Siamaster> but now I cant find the drive in Ubuntu
[11:51] <Siamaster> it was the in the beginning and then it disappeared
[11:52] <Siamaster> but this time, no error msg
[11:52] <leftyfb> Siamaster: I would run diagnostics on the drive
[11:52] <leftyfb> sounds like a bad drive .. or at the very least, filesystem
[11:52] <Siamaster> what diagnostics?
[11:53] <Siamaster> It has been working nice for a month in Ubuntu
[11:53] <leftyfb> SMART tests to start with ... you can find it in the "disks" util in linux
[11:53] <leftyfb> Siamaster: just because it was working, doesn't mean it didn't develop a problem
[11:53] <Siamaster> I see
[11:53] <Siamaster> but do you think that the actual hardware is going bad?
[11:53] <Siamaster> or it should be just the filesystem
[11:54] <Siamaster> because it works nice on Windows
[11:54] <leftyfb> Siamaster: won't know until you run diagnostics
[11:54] <Siamaster> ok
[11:54] <leftyfb> Siamaster: Windows tends to be ignorant about such things until it's too late
[11:54] <Siamaster> I'll figure out how to do that
[11:54] <Siamaster> ok
[11:54] <Siamaster> good thing I installed Ubuntu then
[11:54] <leftyfb> Siamaster: also, you can take a look at the Windows Event manager logs and see if there's errors in there about the drive
[11:55] <leftyfb> Siamaster: regardless, step #1 should be to make sure you have a backup
[11:55] <Siamaster> I have to buy another drive..
[11:56] <dfch> you can upload essential stuff in the cloud (i.e. google drive or something like that) Siamaster
[11:56] <Siamaster> but how can I even run diagnostics when the drive disappears
[11:56] <Siamaster> ?
[11:57] <dfch> Siamaster: do you see it in 'fdisk -l'?
[11:57] <dfch> (ideally run as root: 'sudo fdisk -l')
[11:57] <Siamaster> no
[11:58] <Siamaster> I'll restart and see
[12:02] <snufft> akik: apparently it's already installed :(
[12:09] <snufft> akik: i've noticed in /sbin i have a link called fsck.ext4 which points to e2fsck. Shouldn't initramfs be looking at that instead of fsck.etx4 ?
[12:12] <lavendthomas> Hello, I have a laptop (EFI) with an Intel CPu and a nvidia graphics card. I installed Ubuntu 17.10 and am currently using the integreted graphics. I want to use the nvidia card (ideally with prime), but when I use the graphical tool I get a black screen on reboot/relog, until I apt purge nvidia-* in terminal. Does anyone know how to do it ? I already have disabled wayland in GDM and /etc/gdm3/custom.conf, and secure boot is disabled. Thanks.
[12:15] <hateball> lavendthomas: did you install the driver using the driver utility?
[12:15] <lavendthomas> Yes
[12:15] <hateball> lavendthomas: do you have secure boot enabled in BIOS?
[12:15] <lavendthomas> no
[12:16] <lavendthomas> mokutil --sb-state returns SecureBoot disabled
[12:16] <hateball> oh I cant read
[12:16] <hateball> hmmm
[12:16] <hateball> lavendthomas: did you try forcing nvidia using prime-select on a tty?
[12:17] <lavendthomas> no
[12:17] <Siamaster> Okay, for some time. Windows stopped noticing the drive. Even the bios didn't have all the information about it that it used to have.
[12:17] <lavendthomas> but does the graphical utility install prime ?
[12:17] <Siamaster> And since I've had sata-problems before I decided to change the Sata number of the drive
[12:18] <Siamaster> now everything is back to normal
[12:18] <akik> snufft: "ls -al /sbin/fsck.ext4" it's linked to e2fsck, "dpkg -S /sbin/e2fsck" gives e2fsprogs
[12:18] <Siamaster> But I'm going to backup that drive, the money isn't worth feeling the way I did some minutes ago
[12:19] <Siamaster> Thanks for the help
[12:22] <lavendthomas> hateball: I read a lot online about setting nomodeset as a kernel parametter in grub. I don't understant what it is and if if helps
[12:23] <dfch> Siamaster: it is probably nothing, but it is always good to have a backup! glad it all worked out well in the end
[12:26] <hateball> lavendthomas: I am not sure if the gui util installs prime, but you can install nvidia-prime manually
[12:27] <lavendthomas> ok i'll try
[12:27] <hateball> lavendthomas: also I have avoided hybrid gpus for many years, so my knowledge is limited
[12:33] <lavendthomas> hateball: prime-select did the job ! Tanks !
[12:35] <hateball> lavendthomas: cool :)
[12:53] <terminalator> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found
[12:53] <terminalator> How does one fix this issue?
[12:55] <cariveri> thx
[12:57] <slidinghorn> terminalator: what are you doing when you receive this error?
[12:57] <TJ-> terminalator: did you install a custom version of openssl?
[12:59] <confluency> terminalator: what are you trying to run?
[12:59] <terminalator> Well, I just upgraded from 17.10 to 18.04 beta. I get this error wile trying to run several packages for example newsboat.
[12:59] <terminalator> And jrnl a command line journal package
[12:59] <geirha> !18.04 | terminalator
[13:00] <confluency> This seems to be related to libcurl being compiled with gnutls rather than openssl.
[13:00] <terminalator> confluency: Ah, I see. That would make sense.
[13:00] <confluency> terminalator: what curl-related packages do you have installed? dpkg -l | grep curl
[13:01] <terminalator> i  curl                                                             7.58.0-2ubuntu3                       amd64        command line tool for transferring data with URL syntax
[13:01] <terminalator> ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64                                            7.58.0-2ubuntu3                       amd64        easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (GnuTLS flavour)
[13:01] <terminalator> ii  libcurl4:amd64                                                   7.58.0-2ubuntu3                       amd64        easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (OpenSSL flavour)
[13:01] <terminalator> ii  python-pycurl                                                    7.43.0.1-0.2                          amd64        Python bindings to libcurl
[13:01] <terminalator> ii  python3-pycurl                                                   7.43.0.1-0.2                          amd64        Python bindings to libcurl (Python 3)
[13:01] <terminalator> y
[13:01] <confluency> Argh
[13:02] <confluency> terminalator: please paste long things in a pastebin, not in the channel.
[13:03] <terminalator> https://pastebin.com/hYTQGjR2
[13:03] <confluency> terminalator: try to install libcurl3. If the issue persists, you may need to use a workaround to select the right curl version with an environment variable. See e.g. https://github.com/citra-emu/citra/issues/2976
[13:03] <terminalator> confluency: Alright, let me give that a try
[13:03] <confluency> terminalator: I believe that the libcurl3 package is the one compiled with openssl.
[13:04] <Zajt> Best way to setup VM on Ubuntu 16.04 is to install like VMware fusion right?
[13:04] <confluency> If you search for that error you'll get a lot of Arch threads -- the package names will be wrong, but the environment variable workaround should be applicable.
[13:04] <terminalator> confluency: I'll keep that in mind
[13:05] <terminalator> It's working Sir ;) Thank you so much confluency
[13:05] <confluency> terminalator: I'm not a sir, but you're welcome.
[13:06] <terminalator> confluency: Oh, my bad. Well, at least a learned someting new didn't expect it to be that simple.
[13:09] <alwyn> Hi, an installation got stuck for minutes on end, so I cancelled it. Now dpkg tells me I must manually run dpkg --configure -a, which is fine, but it just gets stuck again
[13:10] <confluency> What's "stuck"? Stuck at what point?
[13:11] <alwyn> "Setting up <package>"
[13:11] <confluency> Well, what is <package>?
[13:12] <confluency> And what distro version is this?
[13:13] <alwyn> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, package docker-ce from their repos
[13:14] <alwyn> https://docs.docker.com/install/linux/docker-ce/ubuntu/#install-using-the-repository
[13:16] <confluency> Could you please post the actual exact terminal output (in a pastebin) instead of describing it?
[13:17] <slidinghorn> alwyn: why not use the version available in the Ubuntu repository?  Using the 3rd party/developer repository has more of a chance of breaking things
[13:18] <TJ-> Anyone know how/why console-setup-linux ignores /etc/default/console-setup in 17.10+ ?
[13:19] <alwyn> confluency: https://bpaste.net/show/37f3633916b4
[13:20] <confluency> alwyn: in the short term, you can fix this by uninstalling docker-ce (or purging).
[13:21] <confluency> alwyn: have you seen this? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/293675/installing-docker-hangs-at-setting-up-docker-engine-on-ubuntu-xenial
[13:22] <confluency> alwyn: it's for a different docker package, but it may have the same underlying cause.
[13:24] <ivanperez> Hello! I'm trying to add a location to the clock in 17.10, and the option locations seems to have done away. I searched online, and everyone suggests installing some weird extra tool that presents a clock and locations.
[13:24] <ivanperez> Does anyone know why the feature was removed?
[13:24] <ivanperez> Or where it went?
[13:25] <ivanperez> *done -> gone
[13:41] <guest-oldozx> hi
[13:45] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[13:46] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: hello. What can we help you with?
[13:46] <OnkelTem> ufw question. Where does it stores rules? I can't find them in /etc/ufw
[13:46] <OnkelTem> store*
[13:46] <OnkelTem> And how to remove a rule? For example, if I add it with: ufw allow 123/tcp, how to remove it then?
[13:46] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: the first result on google for "where does ufw store rules" points to https://serverfault.com/questions/475468/where-does-ufw-uncomplicated-firewall-save-command-line-rules-to which gives the answer
[13:47] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW should help with how to use ufw
[13:48] <OnkelTem> Yeah, but it's still unclear how to delete rule? There is a command for that by it takes number
[13:48] <OnkelTem> while ufw status doesn't show any numbers
[13:49] <OnkelTem> oh, ok
[13:49] <OnkelTem> I found it
[13:50] <OnkelTem> leftyfb: thanks. Your google king-fu is better than my, I admit it sir
[13:50] <OnkelTem> kung*
[13:50] <leftyfb> OnkelTem: I only typed your exact question into google
[13:50] <dar123> i have got a linux machine behind nat, i want to be able to ssh it (without configuring static nat)  from a cloud server
[13:51] <leftyfb> dar123: you'll need to poke a hole in your firewall/router
[13:51] <OnkelTem> leftyfb: don't underestimate yourself sir
[13:51] <leftyfb> dar123: or, create an autossh config for your linux machine to ssh to the cloud server and create a reverse tunnel
[13:52] <leftyfb> dar123: https://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling
[13:52] <dar123> thanks
[13:53] <Zajt> Best way to setup VM on Ubuntu 16.04 is to install like VMware fusion right?
[13:54] <leftyfb> Zajt: if you're only going to use a linux server in the VM, maybe look into lxd containers. It's way easier and simpler to use
[13:54] <leftyfb> Zajt: other than that, maybe Virtualbox
[13:55] <Zajt> leftyfb: I will put a linux distro on the VM(I want to create like 10 users so 10 people can ssh into it)
[13:55] <leftyfb> Zajt: I would do lxd then
[13:56] <leftyfb> Zajt: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxd.html
[13:57] <Zajt> okay that will work for what I want? Because I want to fix so each user have access to the same files in the home folder, but then they should not see other files or write stuff in other than those folders
[13:58] <dar123> another thing i want to monitor the host behind NAT as well, whenever it goes offline i will send a notification to myself. What should i run on the host to keep sending keep alives to my cloud server
[13:58] <dar123> i can run a cron job, but what is the recommended/best practice
[13:59] <leftyfb> Zajt: that is not a function of the VM but instead how you give access to each account.
[13:59] <Zajt> alright yeah leftyfb why is lxd better here? So I know the benefits
[13:59] <Zajt> I have used VMware fusion on my computer and it worked perfectly with VM's
[13:59] <leftyfb> dar123: have the cloud host check for the reverse tunnel. If it goes down, have the cloud host notify you. Won't do you any good for the host behind nat to try to notify you if it's offline
[14:00] <leftyfb> Zajt: it's a lot simpler and quicker to get setup. Try it out
[14:00] <dar123> let me try that out, thanks again
[14:09] <cap> Hey guys. I want to design an application launcher, could you me point to that direction.
[14:10] <Zajt> leftyfb: after I have followed the instructions on that page, is it easy to setup 10 users so that they can ssh into it?
[14:10] <cap> could you point me*
[14:11] <leftyfb> Zajt: again, that has nothing to do with VM's. You setup those users the same way you would on any linux environment
[14:12] <Zajt> alright
[14:17] <adrian_1908> "LXD (pronounced lex-dee) ..." Really? more like "el-ex-dee", no?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:21] <srgjames> I have a webserver and wanting to back it up I have command line access but do not have physical access. What is the best way to back it up ?
[14:23] <EriC^^> srgjames: might be useful https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/backup-website-ssh-command-line/
[14:24] <slidinghorn> srgjames: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR could be helpful
[14:26] <german_> hi guys i need some help...newbie on linux and using Zorin OS. i cant make my blutetooth work...ive a MEDIATEK mt7630e. any advice would be very appreciated
[14:27] <srgjames> german_ find a Zorin OS irc
[14:27] <srgjames> as this is ubuntu
[14:27] <EriC^^> !zorin | german_
[14:27] <EriC^^> !zorinos | german_
[14:27] <slidinghorn> german_: unfortunately, ZorinOS isn't supported here.  Try their channel #ZorinOS
[14:28] <german_> oh ok cheers
[14:31] <foo> Closing last few lines on apt-get autoremove - https://paste.ofcode.org/N8Nd3bBYYZq6PyAVUa22Ej - does that look ok? Or do I need to do something?
[14:31] <foo> Removing symbolic link initrd.img.old
[14:31] <foo>  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[14:31] <foo> ubuntu 14.04
[14:33] <atlas1> have anyone used freedombox on ubuntu servers here?
[14:34] <slidinghorn> atlas1: what's your *actual* question?  You might get better reponses if you detail what you're trying to do/what you need :)
[14:36] <atlas1> I Installed Freedombox-setup using sudo apt install freedombox-setup. The project seemed really cool to run a private server with preconfigured packages to run at home. But the documentation when I followed it didnt have a qhole lot of clear details on how to start and the man option didnt help either
[14:36] <atlas1> so wondering if anyone here have tried it yet
[14:36] <foo> Ubuntu 14.04 - uname -a shows this kernel:  3.13.0-24-generic - digital ocean says I want to be on Ubuntu 14.04: kernel 3.13.0-139-generic to be relatively secure - am I?
[14:36] <atlas1> slidinghorn: should have mentioned you specifically lol sorry
[14:37] <foo> I'm not sure looking at the numbers if I'm on 3.13 or 3.13.0-24 which I assume is greater than 3.13.0-139
[14:39] <mingdao> How do I turn on the teamviewer daemon on?
[14:40] <mingdao> When I start the client it loads the license screen for a minute, then closes. I think the daemon needs to be started.
[14:40] <atlas1> mingdao: teamviewer --daemon start start TeamViewer daemon
[14:40] <mingdao> thanks
[14:42] <wiq> Hi. I am running kubuntu and on HP Pavilion G6 1004tx laptop which have AMD Radeon HD 6470M. I wanted to switch to AMD graphic card permanently. So, I added DRI_PRIME=1 to /etc/environment but after restarting I saw a error "kwin crashed" I switched use XRender backend instead. And restarted again. Everything is working fine BUT when I am scrolling webpages the text is flickering. [I know I can make any specific app to use AMD but by using AMD as default for
[14:42] <wiq> all system is giving a performance boost]
[14:42] <mingdao> atlas1: it still didn't start, i'll check otherwise
[14:43] <atlas1> mingdao:  teamviewer --daemon stop stop TeamViewer daemon
[14:43] <atlas1> mingdao: stop the daemon and than try
[14:43] <atlas1> if still giving you trouble try uninstalling and rebooting and reinstall and start the daemon
[14:47] <worker009> HI
[14:47] <ads20000> foo: The latest Linux 3.13 kernel on 14.04 is 3.13.0-144. The later (Debian) patches for 3.13 will have security fixes so that means you're not up-to-date. Have you updated recently?
[14:47] <atlas1> worker009: hi
[14:48] <ads20000> Though I don't know all the ins and outs of how Digital Ocean works and how you'd go about updating a Linux kernel on that...perhaps you'd want to contact DO about it...
[14:48] <Checkmate> how to change apt-get in other path
[14:48] <foo> ads20000: thank you. I thought I did. I have these installed: https://paste.ofcode.org/7uur9nFLMSFaxkyVanUjNd uname -a shows: Linux bre 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:48] <leftyfb> Checkmate: huh?
[14:48] <foo> ads20000: do I have to enable it or something, I wonder? I thought it automatically used the latest
[14:49] <TJ-> foo: please see the responses in #ubuntu-server to your questions
[14:49] <luna_> got my PC back in working order :)
[14:49] <atlas1> Quick question for you guys. How do you call a program from within a program? Like for example I'm using weechat on terminal to chat here. Now if I want to use say grep. How would i do that?
[14:49] <atlas1> luna_: awesome
[14:50] <foo> TJ-: thank you!
[14:50] <neildugan> Hi I have just installed a new artful server setup.. but the wired interface is not comming up automatically ... a "dhclient enp2s0" works I have the "auto enp2s0" etc in /etc/network/interfaces file ... what could be wrong?
[14:50] <leftyfb> atlas1: that would have to be a feature of weechat. Read it's documentation
[14:52] <atlas1> neildugan: so just so we are clear you changed the /etc/network/interface and changed the interface settings to auto INTERFACE and iface INTERFACE inet DHCP
[14:52] <atlas1> neildugan: right?
[14:53] <neildugan> atlas1, yes
[14:53] <jlevon> anybody any clues on how to get the file list out of steadyflow by any chance?
[14:53] <neildugan> atlas1, "auto enp2s0" .. "iface enp2s0 inet dhcp"
[14:53] <atlas1> neildugan: are you using ubuntu 17+?
[14:54] <neildugan> atlas1, yes 17.10
[14:54] <atlas1> neildugan: aaah for that you have to use netplan
[14:54] <atlas1> neildugan: go to /etc/netplan/
[14:54] <atlas1> and there is a yuml file you need to edit
[14:55] <neildugan> atlas1, nothing there at all
[14:55] <atlas1> neildugan: hang on let me find an article that explains much better
[14:55] <atlas1> neildugan: https://websiteforstudents.com/configuring-static-ips-ubuntu-17-10-servers/
[14:56] <atlas1> neildugan: they changed the network configuration stuff all together in 17.10 . i dont like it so i went back to 16.04 lol
[14:56] <nacc> neildugan: you don't *have* to
[14:56] <nacc> atlas1: --^
[14:56] <atlas1> nacc: no?
[14:56] <nacc> it's just the default, you can still install ifupdown
[14:57] <atlas1> nacc: may be i dont know this... can u explain more ?
[14:57] <nacc> atlas1: https://netplan.io/examples
[14:57] <nacc> the last faq
[14:57] <nacc> there are good reasons to use netplan, so it's worth learning about it, but it's not a strict requirement (yet)
[14:58] <atlas1> nacc: one problem i ran into was i couldnt find a whole lot online talking about it and some of the forms helped initially but not detailed enough
[14:58] <atlas1> nacc: let me read the one u sent.. i would love to learn more about this
[14:58] <atlas1> nacc: thanks a bunch :)
[14:58] <nacc> atlas1: yes, that's supposed to be rectified by the above website
[14:59] <nacc> atlas1: and there is supposedly a page that will exist or does exist to help people give an /etc/network/interfaces and generate the equivalent yaml
[14:59] <nacc> atlas1: there is also a netplan channel and #ubuntu-server for questions
[14:59] <BionicMac> atlas1: Hello. Speaking of the networking changes... are these changes documented?
[14:59] <cart_man> Hey what can I do to fix the " xenial Release " does not have a Release file ?
[15:00] <atlas1> nacc: hey that would be awesome... also another thing sometimes would drive me nuts is syntex error good thing when i debugged it it gave me the line where it errored out but i found out space is a factor
[15:00] <nacc> atlas1: yes, that's YAML
[15:00] <nacc> BionicMac: in the release notes, as usual
[15:00] <BionicMac> atlas1: thank you.
[15:01] <atlas1> nacc: BionicMac thank nacc lol
[15:01] <atlas1> BionicMac: thank nacc i mean lol
[15:01] <atlas1> nacc: can you tell me the best way to edit yaml files? or where this generate file is at?
[15:02] <atlas1> nacc: of course if its easy for u to find if not i ll look around in the page
[15:03] <neildugan> nacc, atlas1 , that worked fine thanks, do you know why the change?
[15:05] <nacc> neildugan: because /e/n/i doesn't work well / simply for complicated networking
[15:05] <nacc> atlas1: a text editor (vi, emacs, etc.)
[15:05] <nacc> atlas1: i believe /etc/netplan/
[15:06] <atlas1> nacc: i mean auto generate it into a meaningful or correct formate cos i found the ymal file and edited it to work but it was a pain
[15:06] <nacc> atlas1: oh no, i don't think there is
[15:07] <atlas1> nacc: aah ok.. worth a shot i guess lol
[15:07] <atlas1> nacc: now im sorry for asking again but what do you mean by /e/n.i doesnt work well
[15:07] <nacc> atlas1: /etc/network/interfaces -- very complicated configs lead to very complicated files
[15:07] <atlas1> nacc: aah gotcha
[15:07] <nacc> atlas1: cf. cloud hosts, cloud networking, etc.
[15:08] <atlas1> nacc: that makes sense
[15:09] <atlas1> nacc: you may be able to answer this.. another user answered my previous question about calling a program from inside a program has to be a feature offered by that current program. Now is that so or can i call a script from inside weechat
[15:10] <nacc> atlas1: i have no idea, you'd need to ask weechat/read their docs
[15:10] <nacc> atlas1: it is specific to the app what an app allows you to do, of course
[15:10] <atlas1> ok
[15:12] <TJ-> atlas1: do you mean a script that adds functionality to weechat, or that does something entirely different, like in an external shell?
[15:13] <wiq> Hi. I am running kubuntu and on HP Pavilion G6 1004tx laptop which have AMD Radeon HD 6470M. I wanted to switch to AMD graphic card permanently. So, I added DRI_PRIME=1 to /etc/environment but after restarting I saw a error "kwin crashed" I switched use XRender backend instead. And restarted again. Everything is working fine BUT when I am scrolling webpages the text is flickering. [I know I can make any specific app to use AMD but by using AMD as default for
[15:13] <wiq> all system is giving a performance boost]
[15:27] <DevilTiger> a tutorial i'm following says to run `sudo chkconfig opendkim on` but chkconfig isn't used anymore. everyone says to use sysv-rc-conf but give no indication of the syntax
[15:27] <DevilTiger> sysv-rc-conf on opendkim
[15:27] <DevilTiger>  does not work
[15:27] <nacc> DevilTiger: well, sysv is not used on ubuntu anymore
[15:27] <nacc> DevilTiger: what tutorial are you following??
[15:27] <DevilTiger> ok. i have no idea what chkconfig does or what i'm trying to accomplish by running it
[15:27] <DevilTiger> http://forums.sentora.org/showthread.php?tid=108
[15:28] <nacc> DevilTiger: it's trying to enable a service to start too boot time
[15:28] <DevilTiger> last step where you restart services and run that chkconfig command.
[15:28] <nacc> *start at*
[15:28] <nacc> DevilTiger: this is for a opendkim built from source?
[15:28] <DevilTiger> opendkim install with apt-get
[15:29] <DevilTiger> i've followed everything in that first post
[15:29] <nacc> DevilTiger: sudo systemctl enable opendkim
[15:29] <DevilTiger> right now it seems like opendkim is listening on the wrong socket
[15:29] <nacc> DevilTiger: then fix the config :)
[15:29] <DevilTiger> systemctl: command not found
[15:29] <DevilTiger> the config is correct
[15:29] <whiplash> hmmm
[15:29] <DevilTiger> ubuntu 14.04 x64
[15:29] <whiplash> kali???
[15:30] <DevilTiger> ubuntu 14.04 x64
[15:30] <nacc> DevilTiger: oh sorry, 14.40 is differnt
[15:30] <DevilTiger> should i be using systemd
[15:31] <nacc> DevilTiger: no, not on 14.04
[15:31] <nacc> DevilTiger: so `status opendkim` should indicate it's being controlled by upstart
[15:31] <DevilTiger> ok i'm confused. not systemd not systemctl not chkconfig
[15:32] <nacc> DevilTiger: 14.04 is upstart
[15:32] <DevilTiger> status: Unknown job: opendkim
[15:35] <DevilTiger> service opendkim status says its running
[15:36] <nacc> DevilTiger: ok, then it's using a rc script manually
[15:36] <nacc> DevilTiger: update-rc.d opendkim enable
[15:36] <nacc> (sudo)
[15:36] <DevilTiger> what does that mean and how does it affect me
[15:36] <nacc> DevilTiger: https://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[15:36] <nacc> DevilTiger: if you don't know this stuff already, perhaps you don't want to be running opendkim (imo)
[15:36] <DevilTiger> why wouldn't you want your mail signed?
[15:37] <DevilTiger> i don't follow that logic; once its setup its setup
[15:37] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: just FYI, systemctl is to manage systemd services. This is the new way but isn't available in Ubuntu 14.04. chkconfig is a redhat thing and won't help you on Ubuntu at all. You're still running upstart in 14.04 and need to use either "service" to start/stop/status or update-rc.d to set run modes (enable) services.
[15:37] <nacc> DevilTiger: because running a service means maintaining a service means knowing how to do these basic tasks already
[15:38] <nacc> DevilTiger: and there are ways to sign emails without opendkim, of course
[15:38] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: can we ask why you're running 14.04 still?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> DevilTiger  wgat's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:39] <DevilTiger> ok sentora doesn't run on 16
[15:39] <nacc> DevilTiger: right, that's something entirely else
[15:39] <nacc> DevilTiger: your underlying point was "i want to run sentora"
[15:39] <DevilTiger> vesta is a piece of garbage
[15:39] <nacc> DevilTiger: i don't know what sentora is, but that's where you should start :)
[15:40] <DevilTiger> what do you mean where i should start?
[15:40] <leftyfb> gross
[15:40] <leftyfb> webmin stuff
[15:40] <DevilTiger> yeah unfortunately people need to run webservers...
[15:40] <DevilTiger> how dare they
[15:40] <nacc> DevilTiger: you should have said "I'm trying to get sentora to work"
[15:40] <DevilTiger> its working ifne
[15:40] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: If you're going to be managing websites and email get rid of that web admin stuff and learn how to manage things properly
[15:40] <DevilTiger> fine*
[15:40] <nacc> DevilTiger: uh, running a webserver != webmin
[15:40] <DevilTiger> "properly" editing configs all day and banging head on desk?
[15:41] <nacc> lol
[15:41] <DevilTiger> i'm good
[15:41] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: the banging stops once you learn what you're doing
[15:41] <nacc> DevilTiger: ok, sounds like you're done with ubuntu support topics
[15:41] <DevilTiger> yes ty for the help. you guys were asking me questions and i'm responding to them
[15:41] <DevilTiger> sorry?
[15:41] <albttx> I need to install `growfs` on xenial, but it's not find with apt-get ? sources needed ? deprecated ? it's in `ufsutils`
[15:41] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: I used to run webmin  ... then I learn the headaches it caused and learned how much easier life was after understanding how things actually worked and how much easier it was to just edit a txt file
[15:42] <DevilTiger> sounds like a great story
[15:42] <rypervenche> DevilTiger: You're going to get a similar response everywhere when talking about a web panel like that. Learn to do things the "right" way and you'll have support forever. And you won't get stuck on old OSes either.
[15:42] <nacc> albttx: no such binary or package in ubuntu (afaict)
[15:42] <leftyfb> albttx: are you lookin for xfs_growfs from the xfsprogs package?
[15:43] <albttx> nop, i need `growfs` for ufs filesystem
[15:43] <slidinghorn> wiq: is this limited to your web browser?  Which browser are you using?
[15:43] <DevilTiger> i don't understand what my choice of OS version and administration software has to do with any of this
[15:43] <nacc> albttx: 'ufs' ?
[15:43] <leftyfb> DevilTiger: trust us, we've been where you are and it's just not worth the aggravation you're going through and will continue to go through trying to shoe-horn "easier" web management solutions into your workflow
[15:43] <wiq> slidinghorn, no, not limited to browser (firefox) also happening with slack app
[15:43] <DevilTiger> you have opinions. we all have those
[15:43] <nacc> DevilTiger: leftyfb: take it to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic, sorry we veered there
[15:43] <leftyfb> nacc: sorry, i'm done
[15:44] <slidinghorn> wiq: Try disabling hardware acceleration in both (you'll have to restart the applications)
[15:44] <DevilTiger> not sure why every linux channel has to turn into: YOU'RE SUCH AN IDIOT FOR USING ______ every time
[15:44] <wiq> slidinghorn, already tried disabling it in firefox but no good. don't know how to do it in slack app
[15:48] <tgm4883> DevilTiger: Just read the backlog and I don't think that is what this turned into. It was explained that webmin mangles conf files
[15:48] <albttx> @nacc yes, it's the FS used by BSD
[15:48] <DevilTiger> we'll agree to disagree then
[15:48] <wiq> slidinghorn, ?
[15:49] <nacc> albttx: ok, and where do you see any ubuntu documentation of 'growfs'?
[15:49] <nacc> albttx: i believe linux can only read ufs, it can't write it
[15:49] <slidinghorn> wiq: still StartPaging
[15:50] <wiq> slidinghorn, sorry, what do you mean by that?
[15:50] <JimBuntu> wiq, have you tried setting it in /etc/default/locale ?
[15:50] <JimBuntu> wiq, from terminal, is it currently showing up as an env variable?
[15:50] <tgm4883> DevilTiger: one of the reasons things like that aren't supported is it takes quite a bit of effort to support that consider we don't know what it did to said config files, and the number of people that use said software for configuration is low
[15:50] <albttx> @nacc exept if you recompile the kernel module ufs with write allowed
[15:50] <nacc> albttx: which would not be an ubuntu kernel.
[15:50] <albttx> i did with a ubuntu kernel
[15:50] <nacc> albttx: which would not be supported here
[15:51] <wiq> JimBuntu, setting DRI_PRIME=1 in /etc/default/locale ?
[15:51] <DevilTiger> @tgm4883 but i don't need support for my webmin. i'm not sure where you guys are getting that
[15:51] <nacc> albttx: the ubuntu kernel has ufs write enabled?
[15:51] <albttx> not by default,
[15:51] <DevilTiger> i came here for support for starting a service on boot and asking quests about chkconfig.
[15:51] <nacc> albttx: right, so then you did a manual modification
[15:51] <albttx> by i recompile it
[15:51] <nacc> albttx: good luck with that
[15:51] <nacc> albttx: not supported here
[15:51] <albttx> i already did
[15:51] <tgm4883> DevilTiger: ah, maybe I didn't read back far enough then
[15:51] <JimBuntu> wiq, yes
[15:51] <nacc> albttx: there is no tooling to support it, in ubuntu, anyways
[15:51] <wiq> JimBuntu, no
[15:52] <JimBuntu> wiq, and currently in console, do you see that the DRI_PRIME value is set to "1" ?
[15:52] <wiq> JimBuntu, how can I check that in console?
[15:53] <JimBuntu> wiq, `env | grep -i dri_prime`
[15:54] <wiq> JimBuntu, yeah, it gives `DRI_PRIME=1`
[15:54] <wiq> JimBuntu, do i need to set it in /etc/default/locale too?
[15:55] <wiq> JimBuntu, rn, `glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"` shows that I am using AMD gpu
[15:55] <JimBuntu> wiq, Did you open a new terminal when you checked via env? I want to make sure it's being set at boot and recognized across the system. It wouldn't hurt to put it in both places, but shouldn't be needed.
[15:56] <wiq> JimBuntu, yeah, I opened a new terminal windows and checked. it is DRI_PRIME=1
[15:57] <JimBuntu> Ok. So then it seems like the AMD is set as primary now. Are you still experiencing other issues?
[15:57] <wiq> yes
[16:00] <wiq> JimBuntu, any other way to fix this?
[16:02] <JimBuntu> wiq, did you already do `xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink 1 0`?
[16:02] <wiq> no
[16:03] <wiq> JimBuntu, did that rn
[16:04] <wiq> JimBuntu, still no good. tried restarting firefox too
[16:09] <wiq> JimBuntu, any thing else?
[16:09] <sruli> i am struggling to move my installation to a new smaller hdd, i am using lvm, clonezilla doesn’t see lvm partition, i tried to mirror and then split but couldnt boot, after reinstalling grub i need to manually do a fsck on each boot else it boots emergency mode, what is the best way to achieve this?
[16:10] <JimBuntu> wiq, not that I am aware of. I would expect under normal conditions that by default the better/discrete GPU would have been selected as the primary
[16:10] <sruli> ^ mirror lv partition to new pv
[16:10] <wiq> JimBuntu, normally it selects intel integrated gpu
[16:11] <wiq> JimBuntu, okay, is there a way to start the desktop environment automatically with env DRI_PRIME=1?
[16:12] <JimBuntu> wiq, put a script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ ?
[16:13] <wiq> JimBuntu, I don't know! I am new to linux and kubuntu
[16:14] <wiq> JimBuntu, isn't there a file which contains all the commands that run to start system apps on startup...so i can edit it
[16:14] <JimBuntu> wiq, well, that could be one way, here is some info from ARCH, you should be able to find additional info for Ubuntu specifically - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
[16:15] <JimBuntu> wiq, there are various. The directory I suggested above is ran each time X starts... which is better than only each time the system as a whole starts
[16:15] <wiq> JimBuntu, will take a look at it. thanks
[16:16] <wiq> JimBuntu, any steps to do that? ;)
[16:17] <JimBuntu> I would say that you want to put your xrandr command within a script at that dir I mentioned... or add it to an existing one.
[16:18] <wiq> JimBuntu, sorry. but i didn't get it
[16:20] <JimBuntu> place the xrandr command within /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, above the `. /etc/X11/Xsession` line, reboot, retest
[16:20] <wiq> okay. but which xrandr command are you talking about:?
[16:20] <JimBuntu> xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink 1 0
[16:21] <wiq> what would that do?
[16:21] <wiq> i was thinking of removing DRI_PRIME=1 from /etc/environment and then starting desktop environment and all the apps i use with env DRI_PRIME=1
[16:22] <wiq> because previously i have tested that firefox and other apps works fine withh env DRI_PRIME=1 when amd is not default
[16:22] <wiq> when i use amd as default, kwin crashes
[16:23] <wiq> so, this time i am thinking of starting everything(most of the things) with env DRI_PRIME=1 except kwin
[16:24] <JimBuntu> wiq, Ok. Give that a go then, sounds valid and sane.
[16:25] <wiq> JimBuntu, just to confirm I can add `env DRI_PRIME=1 plasmashell` in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc same as xrandr command
[16:25] <wiq> ?
[16:25] <albttx> nacc https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/ufsutils i'm with trusty and package not found too ...
[16:26] <JimBuntu> wiq, no, you would replace your current DRI_PRIME env variable with the updated one. I think you said you put that in /etc/environment
[16:27] <wiq> JimBuntu, ahh, ok
[16:28] <atlas1> TJ-: Yeah something that adds more features to weechat
[16:29] <nacc> albttx: as i said, there is no such support in ubuntu
[16:29] <nacc> albttx: it was there in 12.04, apparently, but no more
[16:43] <albttx> but if i install a 12.04, i should be able to download it right ?
[16:44] <nacc> albttx: 12.04 is eol
[16:44] <TJ-> atlas1: weeckat can support a lot of plugins and scripts for several languages with packages weechat-plugins and weechat-scripts
[16:46] <albttx> ok, anyway i have to go.. i'll take a look tomorrow :)
[16:57] <wiq> JimBuntu, I did that. Is there a way to check that which gpu a app is using?
[16:57] <JimBuntu> wiq, a specific app? I'm not aware of how to do that other than some setting/view in the app.
[16:58] <JimBuntu> wiq, Did you mentino that you were using Slack?
[16:58] <wiq> JimBuntu, because I want to check that if my desktop environment (plasma) is using amd gpu or not
[16:59] <wiq> JimBuntu, yeah, I am already running firefox and slack with env DRI_PRIME=1
[17:00] <JimBuntu> Firefox should surely have info available. I think you can find out in slack by changing advanced settings and enabling more of the logs.
[17:01] <wiq> Yeah, I have check that. They are using amd. But I want to be sure about plasma
[17:02] <allNamesAreU5ed> how do i find a channel with a specific topic ?
[17:02] <peperica> hello :)
[17:02] <wiq> allNamesAreU5ed, /list
[17:03] <peperica> is anyone here ...
[17:03] <wiq> Anyone else? Is there a way to check that which gpu a app/process is using?
[17:03] <allNamesAreU5ed> Thanks
[17:03] <atlas1> TJ-: Thanks will check it out now that i know there are more options i have lol thanks :)
[17:04] <peperica> is anyone here ... connected to softlayers vpn using array networks dialer while on wifi?
[17:04] <noraatepernos> I recently updated to osx high sierra and suddenly my ssh keys are being denied and I can’t figure out why nor where to turn.  I’m here because all my servers are ubuntu.
[17:04] <noraatepernos> I know this is not ubuntu’s fault.
[17:04] <JimBuntu> allNamesAreU5ed, you may also want to try /msg alis LIST <searchterm>
[17:05] <rypervenche> noraatepernos: That's more of a Mac issue, but the permissions on your keys may be off if the server requires strict permissions settings. Also use a few verbose flags for more information when you try to SSH in.
[17:06] <TJ-> atlas1: inside weechat do "/help script" or "/help plugin" and to list each "/script list" or "/plugin list"
[17:06] <noraatepernos> rypervenche: I know.  I’m wondering if I should change ssh clients.  Permissions and verbose output were checked two hours ago when I started this. Is there a good ssh client that isn’t my mac’s ssh client?
[17:06] <peperica> Has anyone here ... connected to softlayers vpn using array networks dialer while on wifi? on ubuntu?
[17:07] <noraatepernos> The verbose output very abruptly terminates in permission denied (public key)
[17:07] <rypervenche> noraatepernos: The Mac SSH client is fine to use. You shouldn't have any problems with it.
[17:08] <Maakay> hi
[17:08] <rypervenche> noraatepernos: Sounds like either the key isn't getting used or the permissions are stopping it from being used. Or the public key doesn't exist on your servers. You'll need to check all three. I wasn't here 2 hours ago, so I don't have the output for that.
[17:09] <noraatepernos> rypervenche: Sorry I didn’t post it here I just meant when I started trying to figure it out myself (before I started bothering anyone else)
[17:10] <noraatepernos> rypervenche: Same exact key works on my mac running an older os.  So weird.
[17:11] <noraatepernos> mac’s ssh won’t let me output any version number that I can see.  Some sort of security measure is being forced but I didn’t get the notice.  It’s like Google hardcoding hsts entries in Chrome.  So tired of insane companies.
[17:13] <Checkmate> I have /dev/root with 100% full what to do
[17:14] <Checkmate> can i mount filesystem /dev/root to /home ??
[17:15] <Checkmate> I have more size on /home
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> Checkmate, that doesn't make sense... /dev folder are typically pointers to devices not filesystems
[17:17] <wiq> JimBuntu, found a way to check that which process is using which gpu. and found that my desktop environment (plasma) is still using intel even after adding `DRI_PRIME=1 plasmashell &` to /etc/environment as told by you
[17:18] <wiq> JimBuntu, i don't think adding that to /etc/environment will start plasma with that command
[17:18] <rypervenche> Checkmate: Sounds like your root device is filled up an you want to fix that. There are several ways to fix this. Can you show us the output of "df -hT" please?
[17:18] <JimBuntu> I think PRIME allows for resources not needing much in the way of graphics/gpu to still use the in-cpu graphics.
[17:19] <wiq> No. plasma starts using amd after i manually execute the same command by first stopping plasma
[17:21] <Checkmate> rypervenche https://pastebin.com/raw/mE7dx4qe
[17:23] <rypervenche> Checkmate: It is possible to completely stop using /dev/root and only use /dev/sda4 if you like. Do you still want to use the 20G drive? I'm guessing it's an SSD?
[17:23] <JimBuntu> wiq, have you asked in #plasma ?
[17:23] <wiq> no. JimBuntu
[17:23] <JimBuntu> wiq, not as many people in there, but might be the *right* people
[17:23] <wiq> JimBuntu, thanks, going to try
[17:24] <wiq> JimBuntu, thanks for helping me so much :)
[17:25] <Checkmate> Rypervenche its hard disk
[17:25] <JimBuntu> wiq, you are welcome.
[17:25] <Checkmate> i cannot resize with Gparted
[17:25] <Maakay> only resize if partion is extended not primary
[17:26] <Checkmate> if i umount /dev/root i cannot see any disk
[17:27] <rypervenche> Checkmate: You would need to move your data onto your /home and then mount it as /. The process is rather difficult to explain and there are a lot of steps involved.
[17:28] <rypervenche> Checkmate: And if one step is done wrong, then you'll be left with a machine that doesn't boot. And depending on your level of knowledge, no way to get help to fix it.
[17:29] <Checkmate> can you provide me with the command to mount
[17:29] <Checkmate> mount /dev/root /home ?
[17:29] <Checkmate> or with option bind
[17:30] <TJ-> Checkmate: you should do it the other way around, bind-mount sub-dorectories of the /home/ file-system into growing directories of /  ... e.g. /var/cache/ and /var/lib so those use not space in the root file-system
[17:35] <rypervenche> Checkmate: That is not what you want to do. It will not work that way.
[17:39] <Checkmate> I dont know
[17:43] <pragmaticenigma> Checkmate, before you change anything... have you even backed up your machine? changing partitions and such is not a good idea if you don't have a back up of your system
[17:44] <Checkmate> I dont have anything to backup :) still new
[17:44] <rypervenche> Checkmate: Oh! Then in that case, it would be much easier to reinstall.
[17:45] <rypervenche> And you'll get some disk space back that way too.
[17:45] <bhanz> i'm facing an intermittent issue with telnet connect, sometime it works and next moment it says connection refused
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> Checkmate, I concur with rypervenche ... with a brand new setup, it would be a lot easier to just start over, and you'll be happier with the end result
[17:46] <rypervenche> bhanz: That sounds more like a networking issue.
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> bhanz, /join #networking may have better support for you
[17:47] <bhanz> rypervenche: you mean from OS networking or from network side ?
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> bhanz, we're trying to tell you that there is a better room for that topic and question
[17:57] <lapaga> is it better to install a snap of something or install it via synaptic?
[17:58] <nacc> lapaga: depends on many things, 1) your view of snaps, 2) whether there is an option for both, 3) how much you trust the snap packager, etc.
[18:00] <wiq> JimBuntu, Hey, able to run plasma with DRI_PRIME=1! People in #plasma helped me doing that. Thanks
[18:00] <lapaga> nacc, just something like htop went to install it with apt and said it was in a snap...checked synaptic and it was there too...I know nothing about snaps so was curios
[18:01] <nacc> lapaga: ok
[18:02] <JimBuntu> great to hear it wiq !
[18:07] <billsuite> hi'
[18:15] <Sven_vB> so I have this script which starts itself in sudo, then invokes aptitude multiple times. if I run the initial invocation in "nice" to reduce priority, will that restriction propagate though the sudo and to all of aptitude's children?
[18:16] <Sven_vB> *through
[18:17] <Sven_vB> bhanz, I'd try telneting another server where you're sure it doesn't restrict the amount of connections in any way.
[18:17] <Sven_vB> bhanz, if that one works better, you've got your first suspicion
[18:18] <rypervenche> bhanz: Perhaps a firewall issue or some network connectivity issue.
[18:19] <pqangel> Hi :)
[18:19] <zeno-chan> yo
[18:20] <pqangel> not sure if this is the place to ask
[18:20] <pqangel> I have a question about traps and process states. Can a process in user mode provoke a change in the state of a process directly? such as going from ready -> run or ready -> end
[18:20] <pqangel> According to what I've read the OS handles everything, but a trap is a direct call to the system
[18:21] <pqangel> So in theory if I make a program that needs to wait for user input I would be putting the process in a "bloqued" state, right?
[18:23] <Guest65738> film
[18:23] <nacc> pqangel: you might want ##linux
[18:25] <pqangel> @nacc I asked but no one has answered yet :p  I'll try again though. Thanks
[18:26] <nacc> pqangel: ok, it's better to wait and be patient, rather than crosspost
[18:26] <nacc> pqangel: your query is not an ubuntu support topic, imo
[18:27] <pqangel> no it's not, is a more generic OS question.
[18:30] <debron> Hello
[18:31] <re101-serval-169> hi
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> debron, Hello, do you have a support question about Ubuntu?
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> re101-serval-169, Hello, do you have a support question about Ubuntu?
[18:51] <debron> yeah, soon
[18:55] <debron> This is software related, and since ubuntu is my OS, (16.04) , I will need to make this question here
[18:55] <debron> is it there a way of force a resolution, to a screen that doesnt want it?
[18:56] <debron> i am almost sure that it could handle the resolution, because the TV accept it for video formats
[18:56] <debron> but not for computers...
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> debron, it depends if that screen can support that resolution. What is the current resolution versus the desired resolution?
[18:56] <debron> current 1024x768
[18:56] <Irritiable|LT> Old.
[18:56] <debron> in an hd ready screen
[18:57] <debron> ...
[18:57] <debron> yeah, i will give the model
[18:57] <Irritiable|LT> 1024 is like 1990s tech.
[18:57] <debron> 19PFL5522D/12
[18:57] <debron> but the TV is hd ready
[18:57] <debron> and im connected to it through HDMI
[18:57] <genii> debron: Ideally, try to use a connector which can be used to read the EDID capability of the screen
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> Irritiable|LT, 1024x768 is a default resolution used when the actual resolution cannot be successfully identified. Preventing the screen from being ruined by an incompatible resolution.
[18:58] <genii> debron: Is the HDMI connector using some other adapter in between?
[18:58] <debron> no
[18:58] <slidinghorn> debron: check out this wiki entry.  it should help : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[18:59] <Irritiable|LT> pragmaticenigma: "Monitor damage" is about as out-dated as the usage of 'screen savers.' Just sayin'.
[19:00] <Irritiable|LT> Unless your monitor is from 1995 (LOL): I wouldn't sweat it.
[19:00] <debron> genii: is directly connected from the mobo to the TV
[19:00] <debron> with an only HDMI wire, nothing else
[19:00] <debron> slidinghorn: thanks
[19:01] <debron> but is there a possibility to screw the whole thing? if so, how could i restore default configuration without a spare screen? xd
[19:03] <debron> Irritiable|LT: you laugh, but its totally possible, I just bought today a i3 8100 processor. Do you know what i was using yesterday? Pentium 3000 mhz, from an dell optiplex gx620 xD 1995 computer
[19:03] <debron> with debian :P
[19:04] <genii> debron: I would attempt the method described in the first answere here. https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution  ... if it unable, you can ctrl-alt-F1 to a text console and undo changes to ~/.xprofile
[19:04] <debron> thanks very much genii
[19:04] <genii> debron: The VGA-0 in the link will need to be replaced by whatever the result of xrandr shows for your actual monitor
[19:05] <debron> oki
[19:05] <Irritiable|LT> debron: Pentium 4, you mean? https://ark.intel.com/products/27497/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-supporting-HT-Technology-3_00-GHz-1M-Cache-800-MHz-FSB
[19:06] <debron> yeah that one Irritiable|LT , P4 3000 mhz
[19:06] <debron> big jump, from there, to i3 8100 im enjoying now, the only problem is this old TV xDD
[19:06] <debron> step by step ... xD
[19:06] <debron> i hate being poor
[19:07] <Irritiable|LT> debron: 2018 - 2003 = ~15yrs old. Not that bad, given that it's not a bad piece of hardware.
[19:07] <debron> well... at least i could afford a 8th gen intel now.. changed from debian - lxde , to ubuntu
[19:07] <debron> Irritiable|LT: you mean the DELL?
[19:07] <Irritiable|LT> I prefer Lubuntu over Ubuntu :)
[19:07] <debron> actually it was really good computer
[19:07] <Irritiable|LT> debron: The CPU you listed. The Pentium .
[19:08] <debron> for its time
[19:08] <Irritiable|LT> Pentium 4. *
[19:08] <debron> yeah, part of this dell optiplex
[19:08] <Irritiable|LT> A 3GHz 32-bit CPU is perfect and more preferred for compiling programs to something like the Intel I3 CPU.
[19:08] <Irritiable|LT> It'll far out perform it.
[19:09] <debron> ? you mean this old p4 would beat the new i3 compiling?
[19:09] <debron> sorry my english is not very good
[19:09] <pragmaticenigma> Irritiable|LT, debron your conversation should move to /join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[19:09] <debron> ok sorry, please Irritiable|LT if you dont mind to go there
[19:09] <Irritiable|LT> debron: Si.
[19:10] <genii> debron: ..also, if it works to set your individual resolution, you can use the .xprofile xrandr commands to set the same resolution for your dm in /etc ( what file depends on your login/window manager, but usually lightdm)
[19:11] <buggedvnc> hi, i recently installed vnc in my kubuntu, seems like kde has crashed at home, and when i connect to vnc i get a gray desktop with nothing in or on it, can i remotely reboot the computer thru vnc? I thought i had ssh installed, but port scan doesnt show any open ports for ssh or anything familiar
[19:12] <genii> buggedvnc: Unfortunately not, without some kind of command-line access to the system from afar
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, for starters, you shouldn't be running VNC exposed to the open internet. It's not secure and sends your password in the clear
[19:13] <buggedvnc> pragmaticenigma: i connect to vpn server in my router, so not open internet
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, okay
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, can you send the command Alt + F2 ?
[19:13] <linuxmint> q
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, or are you able to use the shortcut Ctrl + Alt + T
[19:14] <buggedvnc> alt+f2 does not seem to have anything happen
[19:14] <genii> buggedvnc: If you have ssh daemon actually on the box but not exposed to the internet, you might be able to leapfrog in through some other LAN machine
[19:15] <genii> ..but otherwise, you're going to need actual physical access to it
[19:15] <buggedvnc> genii: i remember changing ssh server port back to 22, and restarted it this weekend that was, according to port scan i have port 1716, something to do with kde open
[19:16] <buggedvnc> port 6001-6003 open, lists like something x11
[19:16] <genii> buggedvnc: Is there another box on it's LAN you can get into?
[19:16] <buggedvnc> genii: another server, but it probably will access lan, lemme try
[19:17] <genii> buggedvnc: If so, you can try port 22 on the Kubuntu box from that one
[19:18] <genii> work, afk a while
[19:20] <buggedvnc> nah, ssh doesnt respond on ports 22, 11222, 11122 that i tend to use :/
[19:21] <gogeta> buggedvnc, umm set a diffrent port
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, Did you purposefully disable VNC?
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, Did you purposefully disable SSH? (sorry, brain glitched)
[19:22] <buggedvnc> pragmaticenigma:  no only installed it and set a password
[19:22] <buggedvnc> and no ssh should be on in my mind
[19:23] <gogeta> buggedvnc, is ufw blocking the port
[19:23] <buggedvnc> no
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta, please read up to get caught up on the topic
[19:24] <buggedvnc> nomachine runs on the computer, but it also only presents the gray desktop with nothingness on, but no options to reboot from nomachine :/
[19:24] <gogeta> buggedvnc, ohhhh that
[19:25] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, I think you're at a point where you will have to find someone to reboot the machine for you or wait till you get home
[19:25] <buggedvnc> so i have to wait whole 24 hours? :( :D
[19:25] <gogeta> buggedvnc, thats becouce your vnc is a sepret instance and it does not know what ui to load so you get a grey screen
[19:25] <buggedvnc> meh, i first thought the ups has gone bonkers like last week, but i sat here in the hotell "just checking" so i logged on vpn and pinged and it was live
[19:26] <buggedvnc> i guess the vnc doesnt know how to get a command to reboot computer?
[19:26] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, VNC is not a system tool. It is a program that hooks into the display driver to repeat the information being sent to the screen
[19:27] <buggedvnc> i wish my computer at home had an ilo interface, could have opened a software like i was sitting there (like kvm over ip)
[19:27] <Sven_vB> what do I need to bind-mount into my chroot to hear audio from inside?
[19:27] <gogeta> buggedvnc, buggedvnc you should use x11vnc as it uses the same instance as your main desktop
[19:27] <gogeta> buggedvnc, no grey screen
[19:27] <Dovid> hi. is it possible to have an interface set up as static and then have a sub interface setup with dhcp?
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, what would be better is if your machine at home had SSH running. My recommendation for the future is to leave SSH on port 22 and configure it to also run on another port that you forward through your router (i.e. 10222)
[19:28] <buggedvnc> gogeta: wish i knew that last weekend, i only followed a guide to install i think its tight vnc server
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> You can then forward the non-standard port through your router
[19:28] <gogeta> buggedvnc, tight will work but you need to configure a desktop for it to load
[19:28] <buggedvnc> pragmaticenigma: i had ssh running, but maybe kde crashed and took the ssh server with it but shouldnt
[19:29] <gogeta> buggedvnc, tights is a diffrent instance
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, unlikely  if that were the case the computer wouldn't be responding at al
[19:29] <buggedvnc> ye, the guide didnt tell that :D
[19:29] <pragmaticenigma> buggedvnc, look into x11vnc which is launched within the desktop session
[19:29] <buggedvnc> i usually access the computer via teamviewer, havent found a better software that works as good as it does.
[19:29] <gogeta> buggedvnc, run this x0vncserver -display :0
[19:30] <buggedvnc> gogeta: wish i could run any commands from the hotell at this stage :D
[19:30] <gogeta> buggedvnc, that should attack tight to your main vnc
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> gogeta, again, read the whole thread... they don't have SSH capability to send those commands
[19:30] <gogeta> attach
[19:30] <debron> genii: Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[19:31] <debron> should I desist? or do i try anyway?
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> debron, genii had to step away from their computer
[19:31] <buggedvnc> does any port present me with any entrance port to the computer? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XwMX4DHDFD/
[19:34] <Sven_vB> oh I know, I'll try a pair of sox over a named pipe
[19:36] <debron> aah ty pragmaticenigma didnt noticed
[19:36] <debron> I am trying to force a resolution, first added the mode in xrandr
[19:36] <debron> xrandr --newmode "1280x720_60.00"   74.50  1280 1344 1472 1664  720 723 728 748 -hsync +vsync
[19:36] <debron> but i get an error message:
[19:36] <debron> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[19:38] <gogeta> debron, pretty shure you juse needed the rez and refrsh
[19:38] <gogeta> just
[19:38] <gogeta>  xrandr --newmode "1280x720_60.00"
[19:42] <debron> if I change my mode dinamically with xrandr, how do it restore?
[19:43] <debron> CTRL + ALT + F2 and do it by commandline , its okay?
[19:43] <debron> just changing the mode again?
[19:43] <debron> i mean, if it goes wrong xd
[19:51] <TJ-> debron: you'd have to do 'xrandr -d :0 ...' if running it from a TTY so it knows which display to work with
[20:00] <vbo10> hi
[20:00] <debron> 3 Fh ? what is that if we try to translate to HZ? on a TV?
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> vbo10, Hello, do you have a support question about Ubuntu?
[20:01] <boblamont> I have a program I need to start on boot. Specifically, it has 3 instances each using a different config file. It seems to work best to start it using a shell script for each instance (combining them in a single shell script launches it sequentially, so only one instance runs at a time).  I need all 3 instances running from boot. I've seen crontab @reboot, initd, systemd and more as possible options. Running Lubuntu 17.10.
[20:02] <vbo10> the xcfe or xubuntu installed, but the the screen resolution is not right
[20:02] <TJ-> boblamont: sounds like it needs a systemd template service
[20:02] <vbo10> how to fix it
[20:04] <TJ-> boblamont: that's a service-name@.service file, see "man 5 systemd.unit"
[20:04] <slidinghorn> vbo10: what is the current resolution, and what resolution do you want? Also, this should be a good resource to help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:04] <vbo10> 1024 , my desktop can support 1920
[20:04] <boblamont> Thanks TJ-.
[20:04] <vbo10> when i run the display app , it crash
[20:04] <Irritiable|LT> How well does Ubuntu play with SLI/Cross-Fire GPUs natively?
[20:05] <vbo10> in xubuntu
[20:05] <TJ-> boblamont: look at some examples of ...@.service files in /lib/systems/system/
[20:07] <slidinghorn> vbo10: please provide the link from the following:    xrandr | pastebinit
[20:07] <ozberk> hi guys this is a test anyone hear me? Please confirm
[20:08] <slidinghorn> ozberk: nope.
[20:08] <ozberk> slidinghorn: you funny guy :=)
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> ozberk, This is a support channel for ubuntu. please take your chat inquiery to /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:09] <ozberk> pragmaticenigma: I know this was a small test for irssi. Since you all can read this  irc client is work so...
[20:15] <vbo10> ok. i will try to upload
[20:15] <vbo10> in a bit. Thanks for the help so far
[20:16] <slidinghorn> vbo10: the command I gave you will already post the output to a pastebin.  You'll just have to give us the link it gives you
[20:18] <quasisanevl> if you want to run more than one command at the same time you the terminal you can do command & command & command & wait right?
[20:19] <EriC^^> quasisanevl: yeah
[20:19] <quasisanevl> thanks
[20:19] <EriC^^> no problem
[20:21] <ibttis> hello any suggestions on packages for ubuntu to harden it?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> ibttis: security isn't really a matter of installing packages (actually, more packages = more possible points of attack).  This page gives a pretty good primer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity   Also, check out the webinar here: https://www.ubuntu.com/security
[20:27] <Skaface82> i like to use geoip on iptables to only allow connections from my country
[20:27] <Skaface82> i think thats a pretty neat thing
[20:29] <Draconiator> So it turns out 8GB of space is PERFECT for a netbook running Xubuntu. I have 2.5GB left over, so glad I tested it out with a VM before ordering that SSD.
[20:31] <pragmaticenigma> ibttis, a question like that is very subjective and is one that really only you can answer. What you consider to be secure, may not be the same as another persons. Only you can really decide what is adequate for your needs. For a starting point, this article does give 5 ideas to consider. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-harden-ubuntu-server-16-04-security-in-five-steps/
[20:31] <ibttis> ty
[20:32] <ibttis> Draconiator: why do people install distros on vms?
[20:33] <Draconiator> well for me it was because I wanted to see if what I had in mind actually worked for the netbook.  didn't want to buy an 8GB SSD for nothing.
[20:33] <pragmaticenigma> ibttis, It's an excelent way to test out ideas before commiting to the changes on their regular machine. Also, it's a great way to prevent some programs from making changes to your computer that you do not want.
[20:35] <Draconiator> and plus, I can learn about Linux this way.
[20:49] <zhodge> I set up an Ubuntu Server (16.04) and am having some issues connecting to it over ssh on a local network
[20:50] <zhodge> the server is behind a firewall but isn't configured to block any internal connections from what I've been told
[20:50] <zhodge> I've confirmed the openssh server is running with 'service ssh status'
[20:50] <zhodge> but from another machine I'm returned port 22: Connection refused
[20:51] <leftyfb> zhodge: what does the auth.log say on the server while you're trying to connect?
[20:52] <zhodge> aside from the loopback /etc/network/interfaces has an auto line with the network device name plus and iface configuring dhcp
[20:52] <zhodge> leftyfb: ah yes the weird thing is that this ssh refusal seems to be 'intermittent'
[20:53] <zhodge> in that ocassionally I'm able to connect but the connection will drop after not too long
[20:53] <Pinkamena_D> I am using ubuntu unity - I can not seem to use settings in compiz anymore, I check enable a plugin or disable and it just reverts. I can run it as sudo and then they do not revert, but none of the settings are applied. No errors appear in the standard output
[20:53] <zhodge> and in auth.log I get the success messages but nothing for when I get a refusal
[20:53] <TJ-> zhodge: that looks like the firewall is blocking. on the server itself check what it is listening to with "sudo ss -tnlp sport = 22"
[20:53] <Xristos43> ?
[20:53] <Xristos43> ?
[20:54] <Xristos43> poios exei prostyxo gynaikaki?
[20:54] <leftyfb> zhodge: then you're probably connecting to the wrong host/ip
[20:54] <TJ-> zhodge: if it is listening on all interfaces 0.0.0.0:22  an [:;]:22 then it'll be firewall
[20:55] <zhodge> leftyfb: hm let me double check on that
[20:55] <leftyfb> zhodge: Next time you get a refused, quickly ping the host and see if it returns the right ip. If you're ssh'ing to an ip, shut the remote machine down and see if you can ping it still
[20:56] <zhodge> TJ-: I was returned 2 LISTEN records one with *:22, *:* and another with :::22, :::* [Local Address:Port,Peer Address:Port]
[20:56] <TJ-> zhodge: you say sometimes it'll connect but drop? that is VERY suggestive of having 2 PCs with the same IP address on the network
[20:56] <leftyfb> ^
[20:57] <zhodge> TJ-: yeah that's the behavior I've been able to observe
[20:57] <zhodge> leftyfb: I'm going to try your ping suggestion!
[20:58] <TJ-> zhodge: you can check the MAC addresses. On the target PC do "ip link show" and ID the MAC address of the LAN side interface. On the remote PC that is trying to ssh do "ip neigh show" and see if the IP address matches the MAC address. Also try "sudo ip neigh flush" before a connection
[20:58] <tomreyn> "ip neigh" may show multiple systems with the ip address but different MACs
[20:59] <tomreyn> maybe you cloned this VM and forgot to replace / reinitialize its virtual interface?
[21:01] <zhodge> TJ-: I'm in the process of trying to match the MAC addresses. my remote machine is a mac so hopefully the 'iproute2mac' substitute package will work in place of 'ip'
[21:02] <zhodge> tomreyn: the Ubuntu server was previously a Windows server
[21:02] <leftyfb> it's easier to just yank the ethernet cable while pinging :)
[21:03] <zhodge> leftyfb: haha it's nice to learn some new commands though!
[21:04] <g4rrett> please help, trying to get my Ubuntu VM to work, had it working before, on new wifi spot, having trouble.  current config: https://dpaste.de/W7zj
[21:04] <zhodge> results are in: MAC addresses don't match
[21:04] <g4rrett> what am i missing... according to previous config this should work
[21:05] <leftyfb> g4rrett: did you set the VM's host interface to be bridged so it would be on the same network as the host? Otherwise, I don't know of any VM's that don't default to NAT
[21:06] <g4rrett> yes its default bridged
[21:08] <g4rrett> i just pinged my guest ubuntu OS, it sent and received fine...hmm
[21:08] <zhodge> also confirmed that I receive a response from pinging the IP even while the server is shutdown
[21:08] <g4rrett> wow got it working.  didnt work for 10 mins, now it does.  SWEET
[21:09] <leftyfb> zhodge: find the DUPE
[21:15] <TJ-> yay, a game of network whack-a-mole :)
[21:18] <mattfly> is anyone able to hibernate ubuntu 18.04 beta final ?
[21:18] <leftyfb> !bionic | mattfly
[21:18] <netochka> I want to customize the keyboard light on laptop using Terminal.
[21:20] <netochka> when is this 18.04 going to be released. or is it already?
[21:21] <jluc> there once were acrobat runing on linyx
[21:21] <jluc> u
[21:22] <evulish> bionic beaver. lol.
[21:22] <jluc> would run old acrobat on old distrib be enough ?
[21:22] <evulish> i'm never upgrading from that.
[21:22] <nacc> jluc: why do you want acrobat?
[21:23] <jluc> ooops this was intended for #scribus channel
[21:24] <jluc> needed to convert PDF to "PDF A-1b"
[21:25] <zhodge> I really appreciate the help leftyfb, TJ- :)
[21:26] <zhodge> definitely would not have been able to diagnose that alone
[21:26] <zhodge> (oh and tomreyn)
[21:27] <zhodge> extra punchline is that the dupe is a printer haha
[21:29] <TJ-> zhodge: no wonder it didn't want to talk to you :)
[21:30] <zhodge> but I never attacked it with a bat or stomped on it or anything...
[21:46] <debron> should I ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/973212/the-screen-rendering-of-17-10-with-intel-i5-8400-is-really-slow
[21:46] <octopus258> Hi
[21:47] <debron> Hello, i think i got disconnected and message wasnt sended, ill resend
[21:47] <debron> Hello, I have a fresh ubuntu installation on a new PC. I have been reading around, and seems that my integrated graphics card its not going well on this ubuntu kernel, and there suggest me to upgrade the kernel to 4.15
[21:47] <debron> should I ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/973212/the-screen-rendering-of-17-10-with-intel-i5-8400-is-really-slow
[21:47] <debron> my actual kernel is 4.13.0-38-generic on a fresh installation
[21:48] <oerheks> Intel UHD Graphics 630 "Coffee Lake" ...
[21:48] <debron> yeah exactly the same
[21:48] <debron> why oerheks ?
[21:49] <oerheks> debron, i remember this fix, "quiet splash i915.alpha_support=1"  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2377324&p=13739391#post13739391
[21:50] <oerheks> not sure the support appears in 4.15 or 4.16 ..
[21:53] <tomreyn> .15 IIRC, phoronix had an article on it
[21:54] <tomreyn> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-4.15-CFL-No-Alpha
[21:54] <oerheks> ah oke, so it will be fixed in 18.04
[21:54] <debron> oerheks: im reading about it, thanks for the fix
[21:54] <debron> ill decide if upgrade kernel or use that fix
[21:55] <debron> maybe my hw works better on that kernel
[21:56] <tomreyn> i'd just add i915.alpha_support=1 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and sudo update-grub
[21:57] <debron> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DDvTWNtJc2/
[21:59] <oerheks> debron, are you in xorg or wayland session?
[21:59] <tomreyn> did you expect hdmi audio to work?
[22:00] <debron> x11
[22:00] <debron> tomreyn: why not?
[22:00] <laptop> hi is it worth downloading beta or wait for waiting
[22:01] <laptop> for ubuntu 18
[22:01] <jluc> i'm glad HDMI audio works here because 2.5mm jacks  are a danger for the computer case
[22:01] <tomreyn> debron: i dont know any mesa based drivers which have it working, but maybe i don't know a lot.
[22:02] <debron> I see
[22:02] <debron> more than me for sure
[22:02] <tomreyn> laptop: "wait for waiting"?
[22:03] <tomreyn> laptop: 18.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[22:03] <laptop> beta vs officail release
[22:06] <oerheks> downloading is harmless.
[22:06] <debron> oki, decided to try adding i915.alpha_support=1 in the grub
[22:06] <debron> thanks you guys
[22:07] <Bashing-om> debron: Also: oibaf is working on the CoffeeLake interface : ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers .
[22:08] <debron> Bashing-om: Is it a good controller?
[22:10] <Bashing-om> debron: No idea as I run nvidia graphics .
[22:11] <Bashing-om> debron: On the other hand .. my experience dies say if there were no merit .. it would not be there .
[22:11] <Bashing-om> does*
[22:15] <debron> Bashing-om: right
[22:18] <Bashing-om> debron: As CoffeeLake GPUs are comming on strong .. let us know how goes .
[22:26] <debron> Ok all done, changed the grub string, installed the oibad ppa drivers...
[22:26] <debron> gona reboot
[22:26] <debron> Thanks again, Ill tell you how it goes
[22:27] <Bashing-om> debron: Could be with the PPA driver the boot parameter will not be needed ?
[22:27] <debron> Bashing-om: it was really cheap the CPU... i dont know what to think, lets see
[22:27] <debron> Uhm not sure..
[22:27] <debron> i did all at once xD
[22:27] <debron> should I remove the string?
[22:28] <debron> in the grub file?
[22:28] <debron> the alpha thing..
[22:28] <Bashing-om> debron: Well,. will not hurt to try and see what we can make work out .. either way .
[22:28] <hays> are there any guides to updating between major version releases of ubuntu that include the packages one might want to migrate when defaults shift or new options become available?
[22:29] <debron> ok be right back.. reboot
[22:29] <debron> exit
[22:29] <hays> example  might be the shift to chrony in 18.. im guessing a do-release-update will keep ntpd, but it might be interesting to read what other things differ from this approach and a fresh install
[22:29] <aphirst> Hi there! Quick question - I'm testing out lubuntu 17.10 on a spare computer and am surprised that, despite installing gvfs-common and nfs-common (i think those wre the names), I'm unable to access NFS mounts from my LAN via pcmanfm.
[22:29] <aphirst> I am however able to view those same mounts with `showmount`, and mount via fstab; AND pcmanfm on my other Arch machine can access nfs:// locations directly just fine
[22:29] <aphirst> pcmanfm claims to be 1.2.5 in both cases. I've searched all the keywords i can think of, and the error message pcmanfm gives, but can't find any threads actually relevant.
[22:30] <aphirst> (I initially asked in #lubuntu but was recommended to ask here instead)
[22:32] <Jordan_U> aphirst: What error message does pcmanfm give?
[22:32] <aphirst> "the specified location is not supported"
[22:32] <debron> this worked way better than what I though
[22:33] <debron> actually, I though this was impossible
[22:33] <Bashing-om> debron: \o/
[22:34] <debron> look Bashing-om , im connected to a TV HD ready trough HDMI, and in the TV specifications clearly says: MAX RESOLUTION SUPPORTED FOR PC IS 1024X768. I tried cheat the TV somehow with xrandr command, but no results... it didnt accept any other resolution
[22:34] <debron> and now it accepts even full hd
[22:34] <debron> xD
[22:34] <Jordan_U> aphirst: Do you have gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse installed?
[22:34] <debron> https://www.philips.es/c-p/19PFL5522D_12/lcd-digital-integrada-de-48-cm-19-pulgada/caracteristicastecnicas
[22:35] <aphirst> Jordan_U, yes, both
[22:35] <debron> look, it sais: resolution for computers maximun 1024x768 :P
[22:35] <Bashing-om> debron: He done good job on the driver .. huh ?
[22:35] <debron> I have only one problem. On FullHD resolution, i cant see top and side bars
[22:35] <debron> yeah very good..
[22:35] <jvwjgames> Hello
[22:35] <jvwjgames> i am done with some people
[22:36] <debron> i think this resolution problem i have now in full hd its because the TV
[22:36] <debron> its an old one
[22:36] <debron> 1368x768 works very good
[22:37] <Bashing-om> debron: Only a thought, but might see what results if ya change the DPI .
[22:37] <jvwjgames> i have a customer that i am helping a vm with and he said that he needs to add #steam dependancies at the end of the apt-get install command
[22:37] <tgm4883> debron: HDMI?
[22:37] <jvwjgames> and you don't
[22:37] <debron> tgm4883: yeah
[22:38] <debron> Bashing-om: ?
[22:38] <debron> changing the DPI you think I would be able to set full hd?
[22:38] <tgm4883> debron: I'd check the TV settings. There usually is a setting to fix HDMI overscan. I've seen it called overscan and sometimes HDMI mode
[22:38] <Jordan_U> aphirst: Please try starting pcmanfm via the terminal and see if it makes any useful output to stdout when you try to open an nfs link.
[22:38] <debron> tgm4883: I will try
[22:39] <tgm4883> debron: that said, you're TV is probably just downscaling the image to 1024x768 if that is what it says the max res is
[22:39] <Bashing-om> debron: No, will only effect what you display.
[22:39] <Jordan_U> debron: Also sometimes "game mode" really means "Don't try to do a bunch of fancy things to the input, just display exactly what's given", which is generally what I want a TV to do anyway :)
[22:40] <debron> :P
[22:40] <aphirst> Jordan_U, no output whatsoever, tried also after "killall"ing pcmanfm since it runs as a daemon for the desktop
[22:40] <debron> Bashing-om: I will look into it
[22:40] <aphirst> no verbose option either as far as I can see
[22:41] <Bashing-om> debron: In your GUI for the display is a setting to vary the DPI - some where .
[22:42] <debron> Scale menu and title bar?
[22:42] <debron> named like that?
[22:43] <debron> xrdb says 96 dpi
[22:43] <debron> right now on 1360x768
[22:44] <Bashing-om> debron: can "shrink" the display with a larger DPI selection .
[22:44] <debron> do you know what would be a good ammount?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> debron: A little goes a lomg way .. Just try say 100 and see what the effect is .. then adjust again ?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> long*
[22:45] <tsuzuku> Hello, apologies if this is not the right channel to ask this. I honestly have no idea where to ask this. I am using the latest Ubuntu, and I noticed something strange when I tried to use hexdump. When I type in hexdump <filename> it gives me the bytes in a different endian order than if i were to do hd <filename> even though they are the same exact program. And I'm not sure why. And also it seems to print out what i assume is a visual
[22:45] <tsuzuku> representation of memory? But im not sure. Any ideas on how i can just make it print out the numbers. Here is what gets printed out at the moment. https://hastebin.com/kugunutepu.rb
[22:46] <debron> oki gonna try
[22:48] <debron> Bashing-om: i think this will not work as i need
[22:49] <Bashing-om> debron: As said, only a thought .
[22:49] <debron> in the resolution i am now its fine 1360x768 , but when i set 1920x1080, The top bar and left bar disapear on screen limit
[22:49] <debron> i tried setting this by the TV menu, to 16:9 signal
[22:49] <debron> and all possible modes, but none adjust how it should
[22:49] <boblamont> I'm trying to set up a .services file. When I try to use systemctl enable, I get a "Failed to enable unit"/"Invalid Argument" error. The content of the .services is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DBM5m2CW8G/
[22:50] <debron> actually, there was a gui way to set the DPI (AKA scalling text and icons i guess)
[22:50] <debron> but it didnt work
[22:50] <aphirst> So yeah, I'm completely at a loss regarding this NFS access in pcmanfm
[22:50] <aphirst> what's different here in ubuntu compared to over on arch that the same package can't access NFS shares, when showmount displays them all the same
[22:50] <debron> I would like to add the mode 1440x900 , as is the native TV resolution
[22:50] <debron> would be nice to achieve that
[22:51] <debron> Ill try with xrandr command
[22:51] <aphirst> I'll be AFK for 15 minutes.
[22:51] <Thedarkb-X40> My laptop is reluctant to sleep after one of the last few updates.
[22:53] <Thedarkb-X40> It takes a few tries..
[23:01] <debron> by the way, HDMI sound works now with this drivers tgm4883
[23:03] <Bashing-om> debron: Pull the boot paramater and see what results ?
[23:03] <quasisanevl> whats the syntax for running more than one command in the background at the same time and then have it wait for those background processes to finish before continuing in linux terminal
[23:19] <aphirst> is that not just a string of & followed by &&
[23:19] <aphirst> maybe i'm misunderstanding what you want
[23:19] <aphirst> @ quasisanevl
[23:20] <quasisanevl> i was having some trouble with a command..is it command & command & command & wait ? for waiting until all 3 finish before moving on?
[23:23] <yeats> quasisanevl: command && command && command probably
[23:24] <quasisanevl> that is sequestional not at same time is what i wanted but i may try ;
[23:24] <yeats> ycarene: & = run in background, && means "if left command succeeds, run right command"
[23:24] <quasisanevl> i was wanting to run all at same time and then wait for all to complete
[23:25] <yeats> quasisanevl: your question isn't making a lot of sense in the abstract - what are you actually trying to do?
[23:26] <quasisanevl> run 3 commands @ same time and then wait for all 3 to finish before continuing
[23:27] <oerheks> i think you can do that with a script and 'wait'
[23:27] <ketzal> buenas noches. por  favor  quiero  instalar  ubuntu   16.04  en  limpio  y  no  me  leen  el  cd.  antes  me  leia  cualquiera   disco  para  hacer  instaacion.  linux  mint  rosa por  ejemplo
[23:27] <quasisanevl> wait is not a terminal command too?
[23:27] <quasisanevl> i was trying in the terminal
[23:28] <quasisanevl> command & command2 & wait ; next command
[23:28] <yeats> !es | ketzal
[23:28] <turbo64> in gnome is there a way to make it so pressing the escape key will close the application menu instead of going back to the overview
[23:46] <k12buntu> hi
[23:47] <k12buntu> what time is it, I broke X and haven't gotten around to fixing it
[23:48] <k12buntu> found out nvm