[05:07] <HoloIRCUser1> Hey
[05:08] <HoloIRCUser1> Helli
[05:09] <ChernovStas> Hi guys
[05:14] <ChernovStas> Hi
[05:14] <Bashing-om> G nite - have fun without me \o
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: taxi s*cked badly lol
[05:59] <EriC^^> lol
[05:59] <EriC^^> happens sometimes
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> it was americanized, over the top, and bad actors
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> thats what happens when you takeover from luc besson
[06:00] <JanC> there is a US remake of Taxi?
[06:00] <JanC> or what do you mean?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> JanC: yes, they asked luc besson if they could make  taxi 5
[06:02] <JanC> I'm not sure I want to watch Taxi 3-4, let alone a Hollywood made Taxi 5
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> and they totaly messed it up
[06:02] <tsimonq2> .ir
[06:02] <tsimonq2> whoops
[06:02] <JanC> even Taxi 2 wasn't at the same level as Taxi
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> i liked the 4 other ones
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> JanC: but yes, its true, best one was 1
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> morning tsimonq2
[06:03] <tsimonq2> o/
[06:03] <tsimonq2> Well, bedtime. :P
[06:03] <tsimonq2> Just up late working on patches.
[06:05] <JanC> you know, the US remake of Loft wasn't all that bad (but then again, it was made by the same director & co-produced by the same production company, and even shared an actor)
[06:05] <JanC> certainly a lot better than the Dutch remake of Loft  :)
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[06:07] <JanC> but based on what I've heard from the Belgian directors of "Black", being a director in the Hollywood is totally different from being a director in Europe
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> black was nice
[06:08] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:08] <EriC^^> morning lordievader
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> morning lordievader
[06:08] <JanC> (they should be working on Beverly Hills Cop IV right now)
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:09] <JanC> that's no joke
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> JanC: your wish, or real?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> with eddy?
[06:09] <lordievader> Hey EriC^^ , lotuspsychje
[06:09] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:09] <JanC>  Eddie Murphy wanted them
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> very good lordievader
[06:09] <EriC^^> doing good you lordievader ?
[06:10] <JanC> earlier this year the producers told them they had to choose between Beverly Hills Cop IV and their own Belgian movie project
[06:10] <JanC> or last year
[06:10] <JanC> so they chose the Belgian project, as they already booked all their friends to play in ti
[06:11] <JanC> apparently Eddie Murphy convinced the producers to wait  :P
[06:11] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[06:12] <JanC> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6438030/ is the Belgian movie they made first
[06:13] <JanC> lotuspsychje: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3083016/ → Beverly Hills Cop IV project
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> cool
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> JanC: its from the same guys from patser
[06:16] <JanC> that's what I said
[06:16] <JanC> Patser, Black, etc.
[06:17] <ducasse> good morning, guys
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> full house today :p
[06:19] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje - are you well today?
[06:19] <JanC> "Patser" is distributed as "Gangsta" outside Belgium & the Netherlands, I guess
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> yeah im great here ducasse how is your day starting?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> JanC: didnt know black was from same directors too
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> JanC: so did you see patser yet?
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> i wanted to go, but i chosen taxi 5 lol
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> big mistake..
[06:23] <JanC> I didn't see Patser yet
[06:23] <ducasse> all good here, thanks, lotuspsychje
[06:23] <JanC> probably will see it outside cinema
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:54] <JanC> cinema tends to be super expensive nowadays
[06:54] <JanC> unfortunately
[06:57] <ducasse> when i went to cinema here about a month ago, they wanted about £8-9 for a large popcorn
[06:58] <JanC> ad up cinema ticket & something to drink...
[06:58] <JanC> add up*
[06:59] <ducasse> yep, gets costly really fast
[06:59] <JanC> if you are with a couple people, you could as well wait and buy a Bluray
[06:59] <JanC> and watch it at home
[06:59] <JanC> several times
[07:00] <JanC> or sell it again  :)
[07:00] <JanC> or watch it on some streaming service
[07:01] <JanC> (and I used to work as a volunteer for a film festival, so it's not like I don't like watching films in a cinema)
[07:08] <ducasse> they used to show some smaller niche movies in the past, but no longer. only blockbusters, mostly american, all in the name of profit.
[07:10] <JanC> oh, there is a somewhat decent cinema still operating here
[07:10] <JanC> although not really niche either
[07:12] <JanC> I assume it's easier to run really niche movies in larger cities...
[07:15] <ducasse> of course, but this is in a big enough city that it should attract at least some people
[07:16] <JanC> in my case that would be http://lumierecinema.be/ (and Bruges isn't all that big)
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> https://www.deviantart.com/art/Telinkrin-2-739671394
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> neat stuff
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:10] <JimBuntu> Great morning BluesKaj
[12:10] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu
[12:12] <ducasse> \o BluesKaj, JimBuntu
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hey ducasse
[12:12] <ducasse> are you both well?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> I'm doing ok ducasse, how about you?
[12:14] <ducasse> ok here as well
[12:15] <JimBuntu> I would prefer if it were about 32 hours from now, but now will do.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> I thought you worked from Hon=me, JimBuntu
[12:17] <BluesKaj> err home :-)
[12:18] <BluesKaj> these phat phingers have difficulty negotiating this KB, sometimes
[12:18] <JimBuntu> I do, and in a little over 32 hours I get to walk out of the home office and not step foot back in here for a couple days :-)
[12:19] <BluesKaj> ahhh, gotcha
[12:24] <daftykins> JimBuntu: hmm travels coming?
[12:31] <JimBuntu> daftykins, soon, but never soon enough. I think I am "in one of those moods".
[12:33] <daftykins> the time before can be quite agonising, especially if it's a working trip :)
[12:34] <daftykins> just come back from mine, at last feeling relaxed and recovered
[12:37] <JimBuntu> I generally dislike traveling for work... I mean, I don't even go in to work each day, lol. I have literally traveled for work, simply to work remotely from the hotel room before... I was like "Why did I have to fly out here to work out of a smaller office with bad WiFi?"
[12:39] <TJ-> JimBuntu: next week I plan on doing the same, from the banks of the river when the predicted heatwave arrives :)
[12:45] <BluesKaj> heh, i wouldn't mind a heatwave right now ...this wintry weather just hangs on like an unwelcome guest
[12:46] <JimBuntu> TJ-, I live off a river, so I'm kinda doing that right now :-D   Are you going to be enjoying some down-time by the river too?
[12:51] <TJ-> JimBuntu: that's the general idea. Do some maintainance work and get a tan, and let the eyes rest
[12:59] <daftykins> :D
[13:20] <Ian_Corne> !bionic
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[13:43] <JimBuntu> !party
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[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> that was the shortest stay by generalfluffles
[13:50] <JimBuntu> hilarious. I am all for learning new things, but am still puzzled by some peoples questions. How to play a .RAR game? Hmmm...  maybe start by recognizing the extension.
[13:51] <TJ-> scary that people still blindly download/run these kind of files where seemingly there is no detailed instructions on how to use them.
[13:51] <TJ-> often when it doesn't work first time they immediately try 'sudo' ... game over, RAR or not!
[13:52] <leftyfb> "oh look, nothing happened. Must be broken. Oh well...."
[13:53] <JimBuntu> I know the research has been done for the likelihood of people checking out "found" flash drives and media... Someone must have performed research on the ability/likelihood of bad "help" commands on IRC... I want to find their results.
[13:57] <ducasse> that "if i can't get it to work, try again as root" mindset is pretty dangerous :)
[14:07] <TJ-> I guess at least Wayland will stop that :)
[14:07] <TJ-> stop everything else mind!
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> JimBuntu, I tend to associate the fact they're asking about a .rar file for a game as being pirated... which is why I took my sweet time formulating an answer
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> ducasse, the mind set of root is because so much of the old tech articles still out there aren't actively updated to the latest... so everything thinks it's common practice
[15:25] <leftyfb> <~~~ dumbass
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> whats going on leftyfb ?
[15:26] <leftyfb> just got done setting up the Unifi USG (router) last night to go along with the Unifi AP's I have around the house. Everything was working pretty good. It's really slick and gives me the control I had when I used to run my own gateway/dns/dhcp vi a linux box.
[15:27] <leftyfb> Worked fine overnight. So before I left the house, I added the port forward I needed to get back in from the outside and changed the public ip to the one I normally used on the Linksys router I had
[15:28] <leftyfb> got to work, still working ... logged into the nice "cloud" UI for managing everything ... started poking around stats and stuff and then BAM ... offline
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[15:28] <leftyfb> was yelling at support for about an hour ... most of it was justified because we hadn't even got to doing any real troubleshooting
[15:28] <leftyfb> then it hit me
[15:28] <leftyfb> I left the linksys plugged into the WAN VLAN with the same old public ip
[15:29] <TJ-> :D
[15:29] <TJ-> ouch
[15:29] <leftyfb> <~~~ dumbass
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> yeah glad my linksys issue is solved too :p
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> sometimes we overlook things so easy
[15:29] <leftyfb> I'll never buy another Linksys/Netgear again
[15:29] <leftyfb> complete garbage, all of it
[15:30] <leftyfb> network gear should not have a shelf life for it's core functionality
[15:30] <leftyfb> tired of buying a more expensive consumer router every few years hoping at this level I won't have to rig something up to powercycle when the internet drops out for no reason
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> i hear you
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> but what to buy..
[15:31] <leftyfb> well, I'm trying Ubiquiti at the moment
[15:32] <leftyfb> this stuff is meant for office environments
[15:32] <leftyfb> you need controller software just to run the AP's and gateway
[15:32] <leftyfb> I have that running one of the pi's in my rack :)
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:33] <BluesKaj> I've had an inexpensive but effective in linux router and modem from TP-Link for 3 yrs ...they run fine
[15:33] <leftyfb> all the Canonical offices and conferences use this stuff ... so I have some confidence in it
[15:35] <BluesKaj> I juat hope the new arris DG3260 from my new ISP is as linux friendly
[15:35] <BluesKaj> just
[15:36] <leftyfb> I had to sell my modem :(
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> all top10 routers on google show netgear and linksys oO
[15:36] <leftyfb> well, MIGHT not have needed to, but didn't feel like dealing with it
[15:36] <leftyfb> Comcast insisted that they don't allow your own modem if you have multiple static ip's
[15:36] <leftyfb> at the time I just needed to be back online so I didn't have the time to fight with them
[15:37] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yeah , but those listings are probly paid by the makers
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:37] <leftyfb> also people don't usually rate something several years after use
[15:37] <leftyfb> which is the issue with those consumer routers
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> all these returning problems on ubuntu i dont get that
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> hibernate broken, bluetooth+audio devices,..
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> after thousands of bugs on it, one should suspect its getting better
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> !16.04.2
[15:51] <ubot5`> 16.04.2 is rescheduled to February 16th due to several last minute issues with building and testing the ISOs. You can install the 16.04(.1) ISOs and run the updates if you are in a hurry.
[15:51] <TJ-> I've never had much problem with Bluetooth
[15:51] <TJ-> been using it since the mid 2000s constantly
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes
[15:57] <JimBuntu> I wrote a simple python app a while back that would detect BT devices nearby,.. it would either play a custom intro song if it knew the person or play a default if unknown devices entered it's range. I should update it to use the John Cena meme song
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> interesting that 2 finger click is explained there
[15:57] <nacc> JimBuntu: do you watch Silicon Valley by any chance? what you said reminded me of the most recent episode
[15:59] <JimBuntu> nacc, I do not watch that. I'm not really up on any shows, closest would be The Walking Dead where I am only like 2.5 years behind, lol. No TV service either.
[15:59] <TJ-> I used to use a pam_bluetooth module to only allow log-in of a particular device was proximate
[16:00] <nacc> JimBuntu: :) me too re: TWD
[16:00] <nacc> JimBuntu: and only broadcast TV here (otherwise internet services)
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> netplan also nicely described in releasenotes
[16:06] <nacc> yeah we're starting to work on them a bit more
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> cool
[16:07] <leftyfb> nacc: please make sure netplan is feature complete before neutering ifupdown :)
[16:08] <leftyfb> last I checked, I think netplan for wireless doesn't support some enterprise features
[16:08] <nacc> leftyfb: lol, not my job? :)
[16:08] <nacc> leftyfb: ifupdown is still available, just not the default
[16:08] <leftyfb> well, you did say "we're" :)
[16:08] <nacc> leftyfb: wrt. release notes
[16:08] <leftyfb> ah
[16:08] <nacc> also i'm leaving canonical just before the release :)
[16:09] <leftyfb> they've lost an awful lot of good people in the past few years
[16:10] <nacc> yeah
[16:12] <pragmaticenigma> quick though on consumer routers... shelf life isn't bad if they didn't cost a premium. paying $200 for a router that gets one firmware update and on the next big vulnerability, oh, it's too hard to fix on that unit, go buy our new $200 router... planned obsolesence is no bueno
[16:18] <daftykins> makes much more sense to avoid them entirely
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> so true!
[16:20] <pragmaticenigma> I went synology with my latest router purchase. Everything I needed, only one tiny issue that I can live with.
[16:23] <daftykins> i was surprised to see they'd branched out from NASs
[16:30] <BluesKaj> guess shutleworth's attempts to monetize have created a more presuurized work environment for many
[16:31] <BluesKaj> shuttleworth/pressurized even
[16:42] <ducasse> leftyfb: pragmaticenigma: for routers, i have a mikrotik router and an ap. you get firmware updates for the lifetime of the device, which is nice. in my experience they also perform well, and don't cost too much.
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om ducasse
[17:29] <ducasse> \o lotuspsychje
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> !factoids | anyone if you guys have ideas for better service
[17:32] <ubot5`> anyone if you guys have ideas for better service: Hi! I'm #ubuntu-discuss's favorite infobot. You can search my brain at https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | General info and channels at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me, see !botclone
[17:32] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) .. Did not notice you were still present !
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> ./query ubottu !yourfactoid is yourdescription idea here
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: its 19h32 here, home alone, irc,coffee..what does a volunteer need more?
[17:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Only lack here is motivation :)
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:35] <ducasse> same here, Bashing-om - not in the mood to do much
[17:36] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Several of us are involved in getting the Ubuntu Weekly Neswletter going again . Going to be an interesting project :D
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:38] <Bashing-om> ducasse: lotuspsychje :: Stand by as there may be a lot of brain picking going on !
[18:05] <TJ-> Bashing-om: what kind of brain picking?
[18:07] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Just getting involved in the effort .. and right now I do not know the help I will require :)
[18:12] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: I might be interested in helping where I can
[18:15] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Great ! Believe me we can use all the help we can get !! wildman and tsimonq2 are presenly seeing what is to be done . We meet in #ubuntu-news .
[18:15] <leftyfb> were you all the original people who used to do it?
[18:16] <leftyfb> I'm always curious as to where people get their news for articles
[18:16] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: No .. none are .. tsimonq2 was the last leader and has offerd to help get us off the ground .
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> !newsteam
[18:17] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Yeah .. seems the most oft used source :D
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> cool project
[18:18] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I have missed it publication .. and jumped at the offer to get it started again . I do think it still can have a place .
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> check also
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !insights
[18:19] <ubot5`> Canonical and its employees have written a number of articles on various Ubuntu-related topics, these can be found here: http://insights.ubuntu.com/  For blogs from the Ubuntu Community, see !planet
[18:21] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Marked ... I think that insights is in the rss script .
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> it is :p
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> !planet
[18:21] <ubot5`> Planet Ubuntu (blogs of Ubuntu developers and members) can be found at http://planet.ubuntu.com
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl ninja movie :p
[18:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Laters .. take care .
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[20:04] <kostkon> ninja movie? hmm