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LoRiderTried the 18.04 beta a few days ago but had a problem with the nouveau driver crashing the system. Tried finding additional video drivers but none were showing up so I downgraded to 17.10 and searched for drivers for my Nvidea 6159 SE card and found what I was looking for.  Q: Will Nvidea Legacy drivers  be available in the final 18.04 release like04:40
LoRider they are in the 16.04 and 17.10? Any insight greatly appreciated...04:40
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alkisgalikhanzoorrr: this IRC channel is for ubuntu-mate users that need support06:40
alkisgIf you want generic chat, search for other channels06:40
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chrstphrchvzWhere should I be reporting issues for specific software boutique listings? I had posted an issue at https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/software-boutique/issues/7 but I'm not sure it's in the right place.10:50
vkarehchrstphrchvz: that seems like the right place10:51
chrstphrchvzI know that a few months ago things were split into different repos for welcome center, software boutique, etc.10:52
vkarehchrstphrchvz: ah, you might be right. There's also https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate.software which has the actual app listing. But checking on github, @Wimpress is subscribed to both - so he'll get notifications regardless :)10:55
lapagaspeaking of software boutique...so many things I try to install via that come up not found. Something simple like htop.  I can install everything via apt or synaptic so am wondering if I do not have it set up correctly11:01
alkisgchrstphrchvz: it sounds strange though, that a package manager would be the one that removes dependencies. Those are usually managed by apt.11:17
alkisgIs shotwell-common marked as automatically or as manually installed in your setup?11:18
alkisgHere I have boutique uninstalled. And  apt show shotwell-common says: APT-Manual-Installed: yes11:19
alkisgThat tells me that it's probably the live cd creation process, the "seeds", that mark it as manually installed, so it doesn't get removed if shotwell gets removed11:19
alkisgIn other words, if I run `apt purge --auto-remove shotwell`, it WON'T remove shotwell-common. And this is completely unrelated to the boutique.11:20
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alkisgalikhanzoor: this channel is for ubuntu-mate support only11:29
alkisgFor general chat, search for other channels11:30
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chrstphrchvzalkisg: I've since manually removed shotwell and shotwell-common, so I'm not sure if shotwell-common was set to manually installed in the first place.12:17
chrstphrchvzBut even if shotwell-common were set to automatically installed, I think it would be ideal if shotwell-common (if present) would still be removed by software boutique, rather than relying on apt autoremove happening at some later time.12:17
chrstphrchvzI haven't found which repo hosts the listing for shotwell, it seems to have disappeared after things were split up…12:18
alkisgchrstphrchvz: if shotwell-common is set to MANUALLY installed in all ubuntu-mate installations, of course there's no reason for any package manager to remove it12:21
alkisgPackage managers of course won't keep their own list of which packages to remove when other packages are removed; they'll rely on apt to do that housekeeping12:21
alkisgI.e. you filed your bug report in the wrong place, it should be filed against ubuntu seeds and not a boutique or any other software center12:22
alkisg*in12:22
alkisgIn other words. Install shotwell now from boutique. It will automatically install showwell-common as well. Then remove it again. IF shotwell-common now is not removed, THEN it's a boutique bug; ELSE it was an ubuntu seeds bug.12:24
chrstphrchvzalkisg, I haven't checked in 18.04, but in 17.10 (or at least when I wrote the issue a few months ago) boutique used a PPA for shotwell which builds it as a single package (i.e. without a shotwell-common package; its .deb actually specifies that it "replaces" shotwell-common).12:28
alkisgMeh, using PPAs is against Ubuntu policy12:29
alkisg(for flavors, not for users)12:29
alkisgYou can file a bug report against that12:29
koaHey everyone, how is your day going? :p13:10
koaGood to know that this chat is very active lmao.13:13
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