[00:34] <tsimonq2> guiverc: I suspect we have some people wanting to continue UWN. :)
[00:34] <tsimonq2> I've asked them to show up here.
[00:34] <guiverc> i haven't seen anything - hub?
[00:35] <tsimonq2> Nah, just informal chat in #ubuntuforums. :)
[00:35] <Wild_Man> ok
[00:35] <guiverc> okay - i don't frequent that so wouldn't have noticed..
[00:36] <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Just missing Bashing-om?
[00:36] <Wild_Man> yes
[00:40] <tsimonq2> Bashing-om: hi
[00:40] <Bashing-om> tsimonq2: :) . Let's see what it takes to make this happen .
[00:40] <Wild_Man> indeed
[00:41] <Bashing-om> so, who's on first ?
[00:41] <tsimonq2> krytarik, Bashing-om, Wild_Man: The tl;dr of it all is that your (lowercase c) canonical resource is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[00:42] <tsimonq2> The first thing that needs to be decided is this: which issue number are you going to go with?
[00:42] <tsimonq2> (Seems like bikeshedding, but all future steps depend on it.)
[00:43] <wildmanne39> I do not see a reason to skip any unless it will cause issues
[00:43] <Bashing-om> Alpha-1 ?
[00:43] <tsimonq2> Oh yeah. The stuff here is ooooooooooold.
[00:43] <wildmanne39> the next issues is 521?
[00:44] <wildmanne39> I know we need to change the content but I figured we would keep the number is that a problem?
[00:44] <tsimonq2> I don't think so.
[00:44] <oerheks> :-)
[00:45] <wildmanne39> where do you get most of your information from? is it all submissions?
[00:45] <guiverc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue522
[00:45] <tsimonq2> oerheks: :)
[00:45] <guiverc> i mostly got info from liferea feeds
[00:45] <tsimonq2> Same here, I think Paul gave us a feed we can use.
[00:45] <tsimonq2> sec
[00:45] <guiverc> i also scanned g+, and sites from the list found in the wiki..
[00:46] <tsimonq2> http://people.ubuntu.com/~tsimonq2/paulw2u_feedlist.opml
[00:47] <tsimonq2> Grab that.
[00:47] <guiverc> i didn't get Paul's feed.list, but i made my own anyway...
[00:47] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: As noted . unless we can come up with a new format .. all we are doing is summerizing what is on the newsfeeds . Now that said, what can we do to insure the letter is appealing to a wide audience ?
[00:47] <tsimonq2> guiverc: That is the one Paul sent me. :)
[00:48] <guiverc> thanks tsimonq2 - always wanted it... mine was made from stuff I had, plus those found on the wiki anyway so likely similar
[00:48] <wildmanne39> I do not know how large if most people read the feeds are not Bashing-om I know I do not regularly
[00:49] <wildmanne39> I keep having some kind of internet issue
[00:49] <wildmanne39> just briefly
[00:50] <wildmanne39> tsimonq2, was there any decision made on changing the format before we begin?
[00:52] <pleia2> welcome wildmanne39, Bashing-om, and krytarik :)
[00:52] <wildmanne39> thanks pleia2
[00:52] <wildmanne39> trying to eat chicken and type
[00:55] <oerheks> ouch .. i have doubt posting this .. https://blog.launchpad.net/general/launchpad-security-advisory-cross-site-scripting-in-site-search
[00:55] <oerheks> bing
[00:55] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: Great minds *ARE* similar .. I too am doing chicken ( over the keyboard - yuk )
[00:57] <tsimonq2> oerheks: I would.
[00:57] <tsimonq2> Even security vulnerabilties should have focus.
[00:58] <wildmanne39> Security is an important topic
[00:58] <wildmanne39> how many places does the letter have to be posted too? the wiki, forum and where else?
[00:58] <oerheks> to the google-docs
[00:59] <tsimonq2> Well, the end newsletter gets posted to Google+, Twitter, Facebook, the Ubuntu Fridge, Ubuntu Forums, and to the Mailing List.
[00:59] <tsimonq2> Oh, and a wiki update needs to be done.
[00:59] <wildmanne39> wow
[01:00] <tsimonq2> I have access to all of this and would be willing to take care of it for the first few issues until things get going.
[01:00] <tsimonq2> Well, social media.
[01:00] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies has the full list, steps 16-19
[01:00] <wildmanne39> UWN has a twitter account to keep up with as well correct?
[01:00] <tsimonq2> Right.
[01:00] <tsimonq2> (to both Lyz and wildmanne39)
[01:00] <pleia2> I think it was posted to discourse for a time too?
[01:01] <wildmanne39> thanks pleia2
[01:01] <tsimonq2> Was it? Hm.
[01:01] <pleia2> I know we had a lot of issues with that due to the number of links, so I don't know if that was continued
[01:01] <tsimonq2> I don't think links was as much of an issue as the amount of characters in the post.
[01:01] <wildmanne39> on twitter and face book you just post a link to the UWN wiki correct?
[01:01] <tsimonq2> wildmanne39: Correct.
[01:02] <pleia2> the scripts for uwn give you a line to paste into fb/twitter/g+
[01:02] <tsimonq2> https://twitter.com/ubuntu_news
[01:02] <pleia2> no thinking required ;)
[01:02] <tsimonq2> Right. Although, polish as necessary. :)
[01:02] <guiverc> 521 & 522 only got to wiki as I didn't have rights past there...
[01:03] <tsimonq2> https://www.facebook.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[01:03] <pleia2> guiverc: for future reference, I am still alive :) you can always ask me if you need access to something or help
[01:04] <pleia2> the google doc was a bit of a mess, cleaned up, but haven't cleared out old articles or anything
[01:04] <wildmanne39> can we post to the fridge ourselves?
[01:04] <pleia2> you'll have to be added as an editor
[01:04] <wildmanne39> ok
[01:04] <guiverc> fridge editors can post to fridge  (a few of us can)
[01:05] <wildmanne39> I handle the FB and twitter accounts for the forum so that is not a big deal
[01:06] <wildmanne39> Bashing-om, do you have some questions?
[01:15] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: I am just awating direction . It is my place presently to serve .
[01:16] <wildmanne39> Bashing-om, okay
[01:16] <wildmanne39> the links provided gives  lot of information to review, I think that will get us started
[01:17] <pleia2> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit?usp=sharing is the shared document we've used to put links into
[01:18] <pleia2> if you're wondering which category an article goes in, I suggest looking at past UWN issues to see where they have tended to go, or just ask here for the opinion of other people :)
[01:18] <guiverc> wildmanne39, i just read your forum post re: rss feed - i love this idea...
[01:19] <wildmanne39> guiverc, we have been discussing it a little
[01:19] <guiverc> it'd save on the publishing/summary work (summary writers were always hard to find)
[01:20] <wildmanne39> I do not know much about rss feeds, I would have to learn. Not sure it is something that can be done in this case
[01:21] <wildmanne39> I know discussion of doing something along that lines as be mentioned before
[01:21] <wildmanne39> I was hoping to find out if we were going to try to change the format or platform before we begin
[01:24] <wildmanne39> looks like some work is being done setting up the google doc right now
[01:24] <tsimonq2> Chesterman's Fence. ;)
[01:24] <tsimonq2> *Chesterton's
[01:25] <pleia2> that would be me doing some typing to get you started ;)
[01:25] <wildmanne39> thanks pleia2
[01:25] <wildmanne39> I can handle putting it on the forum since I am all ready a moderator there
[01:27] <wildmanne39> do I need to install a rss reader app to use the script by pail?
[01:28] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[01:30] <wildmanne39> which one do you recommend?
[01:31] <guiverc> paulw2u used liferea (from memory), which is what i use too  (it may not be the best; gnome2 default)
[01:31] <tsimonq2> Akregator, personally. Liferea works too.
[01:31] <wildmanne39> thanks
[01:32] <wildmanne39> I booted windows which I almost never do so I am using Ubuntu Mate in vb and at the moment is having issues I need to restart it soon
[01:33] <wildmanne39> is there much more we need to discuss tonight or can we pick this up tomorrow? I have a couple of pressing matters to attend too
[01:34] <tsimonq2> I don't think there's much left.
[01:36] <wildmanne39> okay I will leave this channel logged in while I get busy so if I miss anything I can read about it. Thanks everyone.
[01:37] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[01:46] <Bashing-om> All noted, back to support. Will pick UWN back up later . We can do this :)
[02:34] <wildmanne39> Bashing-om, and krytarik you may want to join the ubuntu-wiki-editors team so you can edit wili pages if you are not both already members link is here  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors
[02:40] <krytarik> As I'm just going through the publishing scripts, I suggest to change "The issue of The Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is brought to you by:" to "This issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is brought to you by:"
[02:41] <oerheks> "You are the issue, here is the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter."
[02:42] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: I think I already have the ability to edit . lemme see what the link has to relate .
[02:42] <pleia2> krytarik: are you familiar with launchpad and bzr? You can submit a merge proposal to fix it
[02:42] <guiverc> krytarik, sounds good :)
[02:43] <krytarik> pleia2: Yeah, I am, and I could.
[02:43] <wildmanne39> if you have not done it in a while you may have been removed because the wiki's had a spam issue and they removed everyone
[02:43] <pleia2> ok cool, I should get an email when you submit the MP, but if not just give me a nudge and I'll review it
[02:44] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: In my stidy here for USN we may have to comply with "  subscribe to ubuntu-news-team mailing list " .
[02:44] <Bashing-om> study*
[02:44] <wildmanne39> I am booting back into 18.04 brb
[02:49] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Can we pleeeeaaasssseeee convert to Git already? ;)
[02:50] <krytarik> pleia2, guiverc: Or we could just follow the pattern of the original and just make it bold.
[02:50] <pleia2> tsimonq2: I don't care, but I am not super eager to do the conversion, or update all our docs
[02:51] <pleia2> if you want to :P
[02:51] <tsimonq2> muahahaha
[02:51] <tsimonq2> consider it done
[02:55] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Conversion done: https://code.launchpad.net/~uwn/+git/uwn
[02:55] <tsimonq2> nhandler: Could you please update https://launchpad.net/uwn to reflect the conversion to Git? ^^^
[02:56] <nhandler> Let me look
[03:01] <tsimonq2> nhandler: Thanks; and could the Maintainer maybe be set to the UWN Leadership team or something like that so we can do edits like this in the future?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man:  Me:"Your request to join Ubuntu Wiki Editors is awaiting approval". The process has begun.
[03:08] <nhandler> tsimonq2: I had to change the git repo to be for a project rather than a personal repo, but the project is now updated. I also set the leadership team as the maintainer
[03:08] <tsimonq2> nhandler: Awesome, thank you!
[03:09] <nhandler> No problem
[03:10] <pleia2> krytarik: er, sorry for changing it out from under you, but apparently now we're using git :)
[03:10] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/mnauw/git-remote-bzr <-- my best friend
[03:10] <tsimonq2> But, sorry.
[03:10] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, that is good, we may ping popey in another channel tomorrow and see if we can get you approved sooner rather then later
[03:11] <krytarik> pleia2: That's no problem either, since I hadn't pulled it yet. :P
[03:11] <pleia2> krytarik: haha, ok good :)
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: poke'n might be a good idea, if we wnat to get the newsletter out in time :P
[03:50] <Wild_Man> do we need to join the team from the wiki page?
[03:51] <tsimonq2> Hm, are y'all Ubuntu Members?
[03:52] <Wild_Man> all but krytarik, I do not believe he is
[03:52] <Wild_Man> I could be wrong about that
[03:52] <tsimonq2> Ubuntu Members should already have access...
[03:53] <krytarik> I do have wiki edit access though.
[03:56] <Wild_Man> ok just was not sure if we needed to join the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Team according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Join
[04:01] <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Nah, you should be fine.
[04:04] <Wild_Man> good, thanks tsimonq2
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> interesting
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> !news
[18:24] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Welcome the the renewed effort :) Awaiting woldman to wake up ... I am presently awaiting access to " EditingPolicies " .
[18:24] <Bashing-om> wildman*
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[18:25] <pleia2> btw, anyone having trouble with the wiki, be sure to do a hard cache refresh in your browser after you log in, sometimes pages are cached so heavily that the page still shows Immutable even after logging in, even though you do indeed have access
[18:27] <Bashing-om> pleia2: Noted .. OH, we have so much to learn :P
[23:08] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: setting up a UWN directory to install Pau;
[23:08] <Bashing-om> s script to ...
[23:09] <Bashing-om> different chair before the keyboard and now my fingers do not want to cooperate :D
[23:09] <Wild_Man> I just put it in my home folder, I hope that was enough
[23:09] <Wild_Man> LOL
[23:10] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Think of the future .. and set it as can now .
[23:11] <Wild_Man> I see
[23:15] <Wild_Man> krytarik, is the script you posted in the other channel complete?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: in liferea do I need to import Paul's script that I have in the UWN directory ?
[23:18] <guiverc> i just got an email (google alert - ubuntu) - it was a daily source I'd use collecting stories for UWN
[23:20] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I did not do that and the reader is populated with what looks like the feeds I need, I think that is a question for guiverc
[23:21] <guiverc> Bashing-om: liferea has a 'subscription - import feed' which will import the xml list
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well, seems the feeds are populated - several thousand ! - . Do not know if from Paul's script :(
[23:22] <Wild_Man> guiverc, do we need to do it manually or does it do it on first run? I started liferea and it populated with a of of feeds
[23:22] <Wild_Man> me neither Bashing-om
[23:23] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :) going to see what results with import !
[23:23] <Wild_Man> if not and do we get rid of the other feeds and then import Pauls
[23:24] <guiverc> when loaded i believe liferea tries to update-itself (I think it checks its auto-update-time-period; if it has elapsed it autoloads; but i'm unsure sorry)
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc :: Workie ! 503 feeds added to the menu under liferea feeds /.
[23:26] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, yep me too but it looks like the exact same amount that was listed before I imported
[23:27] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, drill down and there is a feed under ubuntu
[23:30] <Wild_Man> the script you posted krytarik is the diff only correct? still need the link to the whole script right?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I do Have a go .. A stumbling block though as I have no audio on this box .
[23:31] <Wild_Man> ouch!
[23:31] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I'll push the changes someplace once I think they are complete for now.
[23:32] <Wild_Man> thanks krytarik
[23:32] <Wild_Man> I have to leave for a while bbl
[23:51] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Are you in a teaching mode ? One finds a feed of interest, in favorite text editor write up a summary of the feed and ... then ?
[23:53] <guiverc> Bashing-om: if collecting feeds; I'd collect them (mainly friday or today [my local time]) and just add them to the gdoc..
[23:54] <guiverc> (my answer will be over a few lines)
[23:55] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Baby steps :) gdoc is what ?
[23:55] <guiverc> I'd have it prepared by tonight; then go to bed.  at ~midnight UST (7-8am local depending on DST)  [gdoc=google.doc] I'd review & check for any that been added whilst i slept.. then email 'summary-writers' saying doc was ready for summaries
[23:56] <guiverc> summary writers would have weekend to write summaries (I'd hope some got written)..
[23:57] <guiverc> summary email went out saturday 00:00 UST time (give or take an hour)
[23:58] <guiverc> i'd continue to watch for additions & add to gdoc during weekend, then post-weekend would start copying gdoc to wiki (adding some summaries if say part of planet was filled; doing the rest)
[23:59] <guiverc> i forget when editorial-email was sent; monday-arvo (my local time) from memory - which pointed to wiki (gdoc was still populated; but wiki was used for edits from here on)
[23:59] <guiverc> publishing and later stages were always by Lyz or Simon  (or Jose too)