[00:03] <Vysty> Running 16.04. I have a bluetooth speaker that is suddenly unable to connect to my computer. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[00:05] <calamari> Having trouble with a chroot and dbus. I exit the chroot, then try  to umount, but the umount says /mnt/dev is busy. lsof tells me that /mnt/dev/null is in use, and dbus-launch and dbus-daemon processes are named. I looked into removing dbus in the chroot, and it wants to uninstall half the system, so that won't work. Any other ideas?
[00:07] <calamari> Vysty: can you connect anything else?
[00:10] <debron> guys any clue on why my TV on any resolution show any red letters or anything red coloured like blur effect?
[00:12] <Skaface82> how is your tv connected? and to what? sounds more of a hardware problem
[00:13] <debron> HDMI
[00:13] <debron> to my computer
[00:13] <Skaface82> oh ok
[00:14] <Skaface82> can you adjust the image on your TV at all? like horizontal position or phase or anything?
[00:17] <debron> I can adjust brightness, contrast, v and h position
[00:17] <debron> and nothing else which i could find O.o
[00:22] <Skaface82> ive seen problems on some TVs where if the H position is out by 1 pixel it can do weird things with the RGB... i doubt it with HDMI though
[00:30] <ericrajuin> is the HDMI cable lose ?
[00:31] <debron> ericrajuin: no
[00:32] <debron> I think it has to do with the tv model
[00:32] <debron> or the config of it
[00:32] <debron> PHILIPS 19PFL5522D-12
[00:33] <debron> it says just allows 1024x768
[00:33] <debron> but even in that crappy resolution i get the same issue
[00:34] <debron> and 1360x768 works equal, so I stay in this resolution
[00:34] <debron> just would love to fix this color stuff
[00:37] <Jrod> #programming
[01:02] <jahtemg> Is final beta upgradeable to lts?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> !final | jahtemg
[01:04] <jahtemg> Bricks ?@@@
[01:05] <jahtemg> Hope not
[01:17] <luxio> ~2 wks until ubuntu 18, probably going to completely reinstall since it's an opportunity to put the OS on my SSD. If I put it on empty space that's on a Windows drive, will it replace the Windows bootloader?
[01:38] <matty> Anyone have any suggestions on an IRC client other than Xchat? Other than IRSSI
[01:41] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#IRC_Clients
[01:41] <oerheks> hexchat is the fork of xchat, which is no longer maintained
[01:42] <matty> oerheks, thanks. checking it out now
[01:42] <matty> Xchat has some dialogue window issues
[01:42] <matty> im running xfce4(ubuntu) in crouton and it seems things like thr channel window freezes and locks up xchat
[01:42] <matty> any type of dialogue i have to kill xchat
[02:25] <analysis> Hi
[02:29] <luxio> If I put Ubuntu on empty space that's on a Windows drive, will it replace the Windows bootloader?
[02:33] <oerheks> luxio, yes, you would get grub as multibootloader
[02:33] <oerheks> !grub
[02:33] <luxio> do I need to do any configuring or will it automatically identify that Windows is also on the drive and list it as an option?
[02:36] <oerheks> normally it would be detected properly, yes, unless it is an EFI bios, then you would need an other manual
[02:36] <oerheks> !uefi
[02:36] <luxio> how do I know if I have an EFI bios?
[02:38] <oerheks> see the manual perhaps? legacy/efi bios
[02:41] <luxio> https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B150M-PRO-VDH.html
[02:41] <luxio> "Next gen UEFI BIOS with award winning design"
[02:58] <Mahjongg> hi, I added joe  hard  nproc 65000 to my limits.conf file and logged out/logged back in. ulimit -u still reports 15113
[02:58] <Mahjongg> How can I have ulimit.conf honored?
[03:04] <Mahjongg> nevermind
[03:04] <Mahjongg> I added hard and soft both set to 65000 and it seems to have worked
[03:12] <slidinghorn> How can I tell if my keyboard is running in BIOS mode?
[03:22] <slidinghorn> (ignore that question)
[03:45] <shellsofsilver> Hi
[03:45] <luxio> Hi
[03:45] <luxio> what do you need help with?
[03:46] <shellsofsilver> i`m testing mint
[03:57] <Marquezini> good great guys
[03:57] <Marquezini> how i can become a aws cloud analist?
[03:57] <Marquezini> carrer path
[03:57] <Marquezini> lpic * aws + ccna?
[03:58] <slidinghorn> Marquezini: that's not on topic here...this channel is only for ubuntu support questions.
[03:58] <Marquezini> have ubuntu server/?
[03:58] <Marquezini> o//
[04:00] <slidinghorn> Marquezini: try your question in ##aws maybe
[04:33] <aeyxa> y ubuntu no work
[04:33] <aeyxa> fix it
[04:37] <slidinghorn> !doesntwork | aeyxa
[04:42] <aeyxa> trying to reinstall for third time first
[04:53] <OntheAir> Hi, new here just wondering if this is the correct place to ask for help with viruses?
[04:53] <OntheAir> or maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
[04:54] <aeyxa> OntheAir: what you need help with?
[04:55] <boblamont> I'm trying to get some things to start at boot using systemd, but having no luck at all with it. I've tried following the example and directions at https://bit.ly/2AY8y1D my service file (which doesn't work) is https://paste.linux.community/view/163b2e7f and the script (which does work) is https://paste.linux.community/view/8cccf1ff
[04:56] <aeyxa> boblamont: did you enable the service?
[04:57] <OntheAir> aeyxa: I sadly have something that seems impossible to get rid of that is messing with my pc. I have used a gugman wipe on it a few times and the issue still persists. I am being phished...
[04:57] <boblamont> aeyxa, do you mean systemctl enable webserver? yes, and it said it made the symlink
[04:57] <aeyxa> OntheAir: have you tried clamav?
[04:57] <slidinghorn> OntheAir: is this on Windows
[04:58] <OntheAir> heh, i've tried everything its in the kernel as well
[04:58] <aeyxa> boblamont: list all services under systemd
[04:58] <OntheAir> I've contacted the isp as well as ran clamav everything keeps coming back. I've actually had files stolen from me as well.
[04:58] <OntheAir> I think I am in a botnet
[04:59] <aeyxa> boblamont: systemctl list-unit-files | grep enabled
[04:59] <aeyxa> OntheAir: reinstalling OS isn't an option?
[04:59] <OntheAir> I wiped it clean nothing works
[04:59] <aeyxa> that's literally impossible
[05:00] <OntheAir> heh
[05:00] <OntheAir> youd think right
[05:00] <slidinghorn> OntheAir: again - which OS is this?
[05:00] <OntheAir> anyone else wanna have a go with it?
[05:00] <boblamont> ok, brb (it's in another room)
[05:02] <aeyxa> OntheAir: So, you're saying you reinstalled OS completely wiping old hard drive and it's still there?
[05:02] <aeyxa> OntheAir: are you installing the os from a cd?
[05:02] <slidinghorn> OntheAir: WHAT IS THE OS?
[05:04] <OntheAir> Clearly ubuntu right this is support right?
[05:04] <aeyxa> slidinghorn: https://i.imgur.com/39Vdwob.gif
[05:04] <luxio> what is ubuntu 19 called?
[05:05] <aeyxa> he doesn't understand humor and has probably seen enough idiots in here to not assume anything OntheAir
[05:05] <aeyxa> s/he/they for any people who get upset about that kinda thing
[05:05] <OntheAir> what does green text mean?
[05:06] <aeyxa> wat
[05:06] <boblamont> aeyxa: webserver.service is listed in the enabled list, but systelmctl start webserver doesn't start it (no error comes up, but the webserver isn't running, either)
[05:06] <aeyxa> OntheAir: oh, probably you're noticing you're being mentioned in a message?
[05:06] <OntheAir> First time on irc
[05:07] <OntheAir> If anyone wants to give it a shot i'd love to see this fixed I doubt anyone really can fix it since all I get is "Thats impossible still have a virus after reinstall / wipe." i'd pay
[05:08] <aeyxa> boblamont: did you do systemctl daemon-reload
[05:08] <aeyxa> boblamont: or reboot since creating the unit?
[05:08] <aeyxa> OntheAir: it's literally impossible unless the OS you're downloading from is infected or there's a network infection elsewhere
[05:09] <aeyxa> OntheAir: if your entire network is compromised it could reattach itself once the server comes back online
[05:09] <boblamont> aeyxa: I thought I did daemon-reload, I'll go double check. I'll also reboot. I'll let you know what happens in a few minutes.
[05:09] <aeyxa> OntheAir: I would completely isolate it without network or anything and reinstall from a fresh OS downloaded from ubuntu website only after 100% wiping the drives
[05:09] <aeyxa> reepo
[05:10] <aeyxa> I didn't mean for him to disable his network immediately lel
[05:11] <aeyxa> every time I come here looking for help I end up helping other people instead and then solving my problem on my own later, lol
[05:11] <aeyxa> or any channel really
[05:11] <slidinghorn> aeyxa: He was most likely trolling.  No relevant info, and naming practically impossible circumstances.
[05:12] <aeyxa> he could have not been wiping the harddrive
[05:12] <aeyxa> and just reinstalling the os
[05:12] <aeyxa> which could have left some hidden partition
[05:12] <aeyxa> but yeah maybe idk
[05:13] <aeyxa> I assume everyone is telling the truth usually, it's a bad habit I have
[05:15] <boblamont> aeyxa: rebooted, still no running webserver. Also, know you're not talking about me, but I appreciate the help, I really am just an idiot who has no idea what he's doing that urgently needs to get a few things working that aren't.
[05:16] <aeyxa> boblamont: lol np
[05:16] <aeyxa> boblamont: you can also ask in #linux since systemd isn't just a ubuntu thing
[05:16] <aeyxa> and it's probably a more active channel
[05:16] <aeyxa> atm
[05:16] <boblamont> aeyxa: they gave up on me there
[05:17] <aeyxa> boblamont: oh, well try with a different file instead
[05:17] <aeyxa> boblamont: like, something that just echos to a file, and then check to see if it worked
[05:18] <aeyxa> boblamont: are you creating the file as root, and what are the permissions on the file and where is the filr located?
[05:18] <boblamont> aeyxa: webserver was my different file :(    Before that, I was trying to get another program to start.
[05:19] <aeyxa> boblamont: do `ll /etc/systemd/system`
[05:19] <protocol_hive> for anyone able to answer: i am trying to install i3-gaps on 16.04, i am running into an issue with ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr; which is throwing errors at me and cannot figure why
[05:19] <aeyxa> is ll an ubuntu command? if not do ls -la
[05:19] <aeyxa> protocol_hive: paste errors into pastebin and post here
[05:21] <protocol_hive> aeyxa: autoreconf: Entering directory `.'
[05:21] <protocol_hive> autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
[05:21] <protocol_hive> autoreconf: running: aclocal -I m4
[05:21] <protocol_hive> configure.ac:16: warning: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL is m4_require'd but not m4_defun'd
[05:21] <protocol_hive> m4/xcb_util_common.m4:8: XCB_UTIL_COMMON is expanded from...
[05:21] <protocol_hive> configure.ac:16: the top level
[05:21] <slidinghorn> !paste | protocol_hive
[05:25] <slidinghorn> protocol_hive: unfortunately, software from 3rd party repositories isn't supported.  I'd recommend the #i3 channel or the ##linux channel maybe
[05:26] <aeyxa> I've been trying to install ubuntu 17 on my laptop and also install it as a dual boot on my desktop with windows and failing all night
[05:26] <aeyxa> e_e
[05:26] <protocol_hive> sorry fellas, im a little new to this.
[05:26] <protocol_hive> ill check out the i3 channel, thanks for the tip
[05:26] <aeyxa> protocol_hive: there's no one there, lol maybe #linux
[05:26] <slidinghorn> aeyxa: what's the problem you're having?
[05:27] <aeyxa> slidinghorn: on both of them, I can't seem to find it to boot into it after installation
[05:27] <aeyxa> slidinghorn: I'm installing from bootable usb and if I hold shift to go to grub, it goes into usb, if I remove usb it can't find anything
[05:28] <aeyxa> slidinghorn: one of them has windows so I thinkI just didn't install it in the right location so windows bootloader is ignoring ubuntu
[05:28] <slidinghorn> aeyxa: have you verified the image you're using to install?  Do you have SecureBoot enabled?  UEFI?
[05:28] <aeyxa> I did have UEFI enabled
[05:28] <aeyxa> I also try without it and that didn't work too
[05:28] <aeyxa> but
[05:29] <aeyxa> I forget why it was a different error message, lol, what do you recommend I do if I have a completely wiped hard drive on my laptop without any existing os?
[05:29] <slidinghorn> aeyxa: I recommend first verifying the md5 for the iso, then making sure SecureBoot is disabled.
[05:31] <aeyxa> slidinghorn: I can verify by booting into live, ya?
[05:31] <slidinghorn> unfortunately, I'm half falling asleep in my chair, so I'm going to wish you luck, and go pass out.
[05:31] <aeyxa> alright
[05:31] <slidinghorn> !verify | aeyxa
[05:33] <boblamont> aeyxa: the file is in /etc/systemd/system, owned by root. I was optimistic because the permissions were wrong, but I changed them to 755 to match the others, and rebooted, but still nothing.
[05:33] <aeyxa> boblamont: it should be 644
[05:34] <aeyxa> boblamont: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/system_administrators_guide/sect-managing_services_with_systemd-unit_files
[05:35] <boblamont> aeyxa: that's what they were, but I noticed the other files that came up all had execute on, so I changed it to match since I assumed the default stuff was all working, I'll change them back
[05:37] <aeyxa> boblamont: you should make sure your systemd version is fine and you don't need updates and all that stuff too
[05:37] <aeyxa> boblamont: there's also #systemd did you try there?
[05:39] <boblamont> aeyxa: no, I haven't tried there. I just installed the system last week and did all the updates, so it should be ok. I was thinking I should maybe reinstall it just to see if that helps. It couldn't really make things worse at this point.
[05:39] <aeyxa> boblamont: You said some stuff wasn't working which is why you were doing this, right? What caused that stuff to stop working? It might be that you're not doing anything wrong but systemd is just broken somehow
[05:39] <aeyxa> yea if reinstall is a choice I would try that
[05:41] <boblamont> aeyxa: Well, I do need the webserver, but I've been trying to get Broadcast Using This Tool (Butt) to start at boot, too. That behaves the same. The script works when directly executed, but not as a service.
[05:43] <aeyxa> idk how to help anymore #systemd is probably gonna be more knowledgeable than me
[05:43] <aeyxa> gonna get off irc now, gl
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:56] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hi every usb that i plug in i cant access for some reason the owner ship is root with thi
[06:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 17 Apr  12 14:32 /dev/sdb1
[06:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> how can i change permissions so i can copy and paste files to the usb
[06:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i tried chmod 777 but didnt wwork
[06:47] <matty> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2211159
[06:47] <matty> maybe thatll help ya?
[06:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> thank you
[06:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hopefully can get it to work
[06:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i actually dont want to auto mount as non root
[06:51] <ducasse> MrCrackPotBuilde: what did you run chmod on?
[06:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> dev sdb
[06:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> and dev/sdb1
[06:52] <ducasse> MrCrackPotBuilde: that's not right, you need to run it on the mountpoint
[06:53] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hhhhmm that would be media/xx80-hg91
[06:53] <ducasse> sounds right
[06:54] <MrCrackPotBuilde> chmod 777 right
[06:54] <MrCrackPotBuilde> +x is for executeable
[06:54] <ducasse> yes
[06:55] <ducasse> +x also means you can enter directories
[06:55] <ubuntu> hi
[06:55] <Guest54929> i have problem with vpn
[06:56] <MrCrackPotBuilde> guest can you me momre specific
[06:57] <Guest54929> when i use anytype of vpn i cant connect blocked websites
[06:58] <Guest54929> openvpn pptp or etc
[06:58] <ducasse> Guest54929: unfortunately that's not something we can help you with, it's against policy to help people circumvent regional blocks etc
[06:59] <Guest54929> but my ip change when i check
[06:59] <Guest54929> blocked sites like youtube or facebook
[06:59] <Guest54929> i mean
[07:09] <Guest54929> nobody knows what is the problem with my vpn
[07:10] <Guest54929> its connect and my ip change but when i want open youtube or facebook it doesn,t open them
[07:11] <Guest54929> this sites are block in our country
[07:11] <Guest54929> in fedora my vpn work well
[07:11] <Guest54929> but in ubuntu doesnt
[07:22] <jmleo_> #zephyrproject
[07:23] <sysadmin> hello
[07:46] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[07:46] <alive> hi
[07:46] <dbugger> Does anyone know if there is some special step to install a certificate to be able to use it while "git clone" a repo?
[07:47] <dbugger> I moved the .pem and .crt file into /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/myproject/ and ran "sudo update-ca-certificates" but I still get an error when trying to clone
[07:54] <A4L> I need help. When i try to modify Windows system32 files in linux (Kali), it says read/only file system. how to change that and write in System32_
[07:57] <A4L> I need help. When i try to modify Windows system32 files in linux (Kali), it says read/only file system. how to change that and write in System32_
[07:57] <ducasse> !kali | A4L
[07:58] <A4L> I need help. When i try to modify Windows system32 files in linux (OK, IN UBUNTU THEN), it says read/only file system. how to change that and write in System32_
[07:58] <ducasse> A4L: we don't support kali, see the factoid from ubottu
[07:59] <operator-error> (/facepalm}
[07:59] <A4L> ducasse i changed to ubuntu. I need help in ubuntu
[08:00] <A4L> not in kali
[08:00] <kille> #lolomg
[08:01] <ducasse> A4L: don't lie just to get support here, it's not helpful
[08:01] <kille> @ducasse we don't know that he is lying...
[08:01] <oijeeboo> 26th 3.10
[08:01] <kille> but it is painfully apparent. :)
[08:02] <A4L> just help me for ubuntu then pls\
[08:04] <ducasse> A4L: why not just get help in #kali-linux?
[08:05] <A4L> ducasse oh thanks i tried #kali but it didnt work thhanks
[08:05] <A4L> PS> there is no noe in kali/linux
[08:05] <A4L> there is no one there so i want help here
[08:07] <ducasse> that's not really our problem, try ##linux then
[08:12] <aphirst> Good morning
[08:12] <aphirst> I had an issue last night which we weren't able to resolve
[08:13] <aphirst> i can repost the full text on request, but it was regarding pcmanfm's inability to access nfs:// shares on my LAN, despite them working via fstab and showmount, and the fact that pcmanfm on another machine (arch) can access nfs:// just fine
[08:13] <aphirst> and yes, we checked that i had gvfs-common and nfs-common installed etc
[08:15] <ducasse> aphirst: which release is this?
[08:15] <aphirst> ducasse, ubuntu (lubuntu) 17.10, pcmanfm 1.2.5
[08:15] <ducasse> does that version of pcmanfm support it? have you checked?
[08:16] <aphirst> ducasse, <aphirst> and the fact that pcmanfm on another machine (arch) can access nfs:// just fine
[08:16] <aphirst> oh, right, it's the same version of pcmanfm there too
[08:16] <aphirst> 1.2.5
[08:17] <ducasse> hmm, maybe the ubuntu version is built without support for it - i dunno. do you get any errors?
[08:18] <aphirst> yes, i posted it earlier but it was a generic "this location is not supported" type of error, nothing in STDOUT either when running in terminal
[08:18] <aphirst> pcmanfm also appears to not have a verbose mode
[08:18] <aphirst> (i'm not at the affected machine right now, though i can be if there are any actionable suggestions)
[08:19] <ducasse> "this location is not supported" might imply it is built without support. have you looked for similar bugs?
[08:20] <jiqiren> running "rpcinfo -p hostname" can give you what versions of nfs are available and what ports they are listening on. Maybe pcmanfm is just doing v2 w/udp while something else does tcp v3?
[08:27] <neoclust> hi
[08:28] <neoclust> i am trying Xenial and i can't boot because of missing ehci-orion kernel module
[08:28] <neoclust> do i have a package to install to have this module ?
[08:32] <aphirst> ducasse, i have, i only found one reference which was not strictly relevant, and also gave no useful info on how to diagnose
[08:32] <aphirst> jiqiren, i'll test that, bear with me
[08:35] <adrian_1908> neoclust: so you can't even get into the live session or installer?
[08:36] <neoclust> adrian_1908: no but i can rebuild the clonezilla with modules, etc i think
[08:37] <neoclust> adrian_1908: i already install new debs into it before rebuilding the squashfs
[08:37] <neoclust> adrian_1908: i use it to boot the image over PXE
[08:38] <adrian_1908> neoclust: oh ok. Well, i'm not well versed in this but if the module ships with xenial it might be as easy as changing the /etc/modules file
[08:39] <neoclust> adrian_1908: i only see ./lib/modules/4.4.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/media/pci/saa7146/hexium_orion.ko
[08:40] <neoclust> not the good one
[08:42] <dbugger> Hi again
[08:44] <wyseguy> yo
[08:45] <dbugger> Is there a way to set a certificate to "Always Trust" the same way that can be done in macOS?
[08:45] <aphirst> jiqiren, there were 3 lines mentioning nfs
[08:45] <aphirst> version 3 and 4 according to the columns
[08:48] <aphirst> i'll see what pcmanfm is linked against via ldd
[08:48] <aphirst> well, grep | nfs gives nothing
[08:48] <aphirst> i guess it does it via gvfs
[08:49] <Dreyk> Hello. I have Ubuntu Xenial, but I connected the repository from the Ubuntu Bionic to install some packages. Then I disabled the Ubuntu Bionic repository. How can I now determine which packages have been installed from the Ubuntu Bionic? I can use only CLI unilites, so Synaptics - is not the answer.
[08:49] <aphirst> i'm not sure how to check exactly what gvfs is built against
[08:50] <EriC^^> Dreyk: yikes, that's brave
[08:50] <antonisz> Dreyk: can you check up your command history?
[08:50] <bazhang> Dreyk, never mix repos, doubly so with unreleased ones
[08:51] <Laurentmm> .
[08:51] <EriC^^> Dreyk: dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" { print $2 }' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 bionic
[08:51] <neoclust> adrian_1908: i don't see it neither with bionic :/
[08:53] <Dreyk> antonisz: i can, but there is too many packages, idk whick packages is from bionic in comman history
[08:53] <Dreyk> EriC^^: this command give me empty output
[08:53] <marcfp> hi
[08:54] <Dreyk> bazhang: now i know about mixing repos)
[08:54] <adrian_1908> neoclust: yeah sucks man, sorry to hear. I wonder if you could find it online and build it yourself (or download as a binary).
[08:54] <adrian_1908> I did that for my DVB card, but that wasn't mission critical like yours.
[08:54] <EriC^^> Dreyk: hmm, i forget, if someone removes a repository from sources.list does it still show up in policy
[08:54] <marcfp> i have troubles with windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04, if i mount windows 10 partition inside ubuntu, then i can't boot windows 10, laptop show me a black screen ... does anyone know about it ? i'm using ubuntu 16.04
[08:55] <Dreyk> EriC^^: so i need to enable again bionic repository in sources list?
[08:55] <EriC^^> Dreyk: maybe check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what installed as suggested by someone?
[08:55] <wiq> How to run/start applications(process) in background from console?
[08:55] <EriC^^> Dreyk: no, i'd do the apt history
[08:55] <marcfp> wiq: with & after command line
[08:56] <wiq> ok, thanks. marcfp
[08:56] <aphirst> marcfp, wiq might mean "and also persist when closing the terminal"
[08:56] <aphirst> & doesn't offer this as far as I remember
[08:56] <EriC^^> wiq: program & disown  if you want what aphirst says
[08:56] <marcfp> aphirst: then you can use screen
[08:57] <aphirst> marcfp, but then only for text mode
[08:57] <aphirst> EriC^^, that sounds familiar
[08:57] <EriC^^> aphirst: yeah, disown will let you click the button, typing "exit" also uses disown before exiting
[08:57] <aphirst> well that's helpful
[08:58] <marcfp> m
[08:59] <marcfp> does anyone know how can i solve windows 10 boot after ubuntu 16.04 installation and mounted windows 10 partition inside ubuntu ?
[08:59] <akik> aphirst: you can use "nohup command &"
[09:00] <Dreyk> EriC^^: can not find the correct information in history.log, cause there is too many packages... So my only way is to install the Synaptics and X.server and use Synaptics to determine which packages is from bionic?)
[09:00] <wiq> What does it mean when it shows 'disk sleep' under CPU usage of a process in system activity?
[09:00] <marcfp> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/01/mount-windows-10-in-ubuntu/ <- i maked it ... but i can't boot windows 10 any more time
[09:05] <Laurentmm> .
[09:15] <Guest95968> buongiorno a tutti
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest95968
[09:16] <bazhang> Guest95968, english here please
[09:28] <Aliekezhi> hi, is there an equivalent of "tracker" (indexing files service) on MATE, or is it only on gnome ?
[09:30] <OntheAir> any faggot up?
[09:30] <OntheAir> with actual skill?
[09:30] <bazhang> apt-cache search tracker Aliekezhi
[09:30] <bazhang> OntheAir, not appropriate for a support channel
[09:31] <OntheAir> ok are you the guy im looking for?
[09:32] <OntheAir> you are not even with the mods
[09:32] <OntheAir> don't tell me what to say fuck off
[09:32] <OntheAir> if you aren't going to help don't reply
[09:32] <OntheAir> act like you make the rules fuck off
[09:33] <ducasse> OntheAir: just watch the language and ask your question
[09:33] <OntheAir> can we get a 'please'? before you rudely gang up on me?
[09:33] <OntheAir> If anyone can help lmk
[09:33] <OntheAir> Because i've yet to encounter someone who can help
[09:33] <bazhang> OntheAir, thats enough
[09:34] <OntheAir> qq
[09:34] <ducasse> you haven't even asked a question
[09:34] <Aliekezhi> bazhang, thanks, I didn't think about it...However, I'm not sure if it's the name of service or not...And maybe it could have a different name on mate
[09:34] <Aliekezhi> bazhang, do you know the name of the indexation service ?
[09:34] <kille> OnTheAir you being a douche mate. watch the language or leave please.
[09:34] <OntheAir> hey watch your mouth
[09:35] <kille> what you gonna do, curse me to death on irc?
[09:35] <bazhang> Aliekezhi, not off the top of m y head, sorry
[09:35] <bazhang> kille, please dont get involved
[09:35] <kille> k
[09:36] <OntheAir> alright if you wanna fight a real hacker call me at 9808252241
[09:36] <OntheAir> cause ill brick anyones shit
[09:36] <OntheAir> fagot
[09:37] <EriC^^> it's safe to say he's off the air now
[09:38] <kille> ^.^
[09:42] <albech> is it possible to get timestamp on 'history'?
[09:43] <geirha> bash's history? yes
[09:43] <albech> yes
[09:43] <geirha> Give the HISTTIMEFORMAT variable a value in .bashrc. Look it up in man bash
[09:43] <antonisz> it's the HISTTIMEFORMAT in the bashrc file if i recall
[09:44] <albech> Just took over a server from a former employee and logging into it for the first time seeing that 'history' shows the following, what would be your first thought? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kvwnpwkHVq/
[09:44] <albech> so it will only store timestamps if that var is set
[09:45] <geirha> heh, that somebody wants to hide something
[09:45] <albech> geirha: my thought
[09:45] <kille> cleaning up tracks?
[09:45] <albech> and now something pretty critical in the application isnt working, which makes me wonder
[09:46] <kille> only cleaned up very crappy though
[09:46] <kille> forgot history
[09:47] <geirha> It's uplink style cleanup ^^
[09:48] <albech> any suggestions how to gather a little more evidence? I guess getting timestamps on the history backwards inst possible, correct?
[09:49] <geirha> you can build bash with syslog support, which I don't think the user can opt out of
[09:49] <geirha> other than switching shell of course
[09:50] <geirha> albech: yeah, that data is lost
[09:50] <geirha> you only know when he logged out from the timestamp on the history file
[09:50] <albech> geirha: that would help
[09:52] <albech> geirha: but im guessing since i have entered the system that timestamp would have updated
[09:52] <albech> we had no reason to believe he would have done something malicious, since he left the company on semi-good terms
[09:55] <geirha> albech: it's typically only written to on exit, unless you have something like  history -a  fired from PROMPT_COMMAND
[09:58] <geirha> albech: have you checked the syslog config? it might be writing the log lines to auth.log multiple places
[09:59] <albech> i did.. its only writing to auth.log
[10:00] <geirha> time to set up central logging
[10:01] <albech> yeah :(
[10:10] <interrobangd> where are the sources for ubuntu kernel 4.13.0-38-generic?
[10:11] <interrobangd> i found only a package called "linux-source" which contains sources for linux-source-4.13.16
[10:11] <interrobangd> but i want do patch my currently installed kernel version
[10:12] <TJ-> interrobangd: generally it's easier to work from the git repository, but the linux-source package should match the most recent image
[10:12] <geirha> apt-get source "linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[10:12] <interrobangd> geirha, nope
[10:12] <interrobangd> not existing
[10:13] <geirha> odd. works for me
[10:13] <interrobangd> linux-image-4.13.0-38-generic not found
[10:14] <geirha> do you have deb-src entries uncommented in sources.list?
[10:14] <TJ-> interrobangd: which release is that? 16.04 or 17.10 ?
[10:14] <interrobangd> 17.10
[10:15] <interrobangd> geirha, ahh!
[10:18] <TJ-> the linux-source* packages are binary ('all' architecture). The src is linux-meta/linux. "apt-cache policy linux-source" should show where the package candidates
[10:19] <interrobangd> strange
[10:19] <interrobangd> apt-cache policy linux-source -> linux-source: installed: 4.13.0.38.41
[10:20] <interrobangd> but if i run make menuconfig the version are 4.13.16
[10:22] <TJ-> interrobangd: that's fine, Ubuntu kernel versions are different
[10:23] <interrobangd> i dont understand
[10:23] <boichev> anyone having experience with checkinstall ? I am trying to add a php.ini file inside a build from source but at the end it never gets included .... i use --include=/usr/local/php/php.ini or a text file containing this path ...... no success
[10:23] <TJ-> interrobangd: see the "artful linux" section of https://people.canonical.com/~kernel/info/kernel-version-map.html
[11:12] <antgo> my wan starts dropping packets over 90% and give a >10k ms lag when i connect to a remote icecast stream. is there a channel which could help me with this?
[11:15] <antgo> speaking of which... hadn't #ubuntu used to be kind of high-traffic? like 5+ messages/second kind of high?
[11:18] <antonisz> people are hungry. i am at least :p
[11:23] <JimBuntu> antgo, #networking, over 1200 "people" on it
[11:32] <srkp> holla ubuntians
[11:37] <hollusion> hello, i have set up a samba share to be writable for everyone but other ubuntu desktops on the same net work are unable to write within that share
[11:37] <hollusion> what and where do i check for problems? have no idea what went wrong
[11:38] <hollusion> reading the share works fine but nobody has write permissions, although i set it to "writable" and "allow access to everyone"
[11:39] <hollusion> the shared device is an encrypted harddrive which is mounted like this "/dev/mapper/backup on /mnt/backup type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)"
[12:03] <interrobangd> want to install kernel source and get a errrir message after downloading sources
[12:03] <interrobangd> W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file 'linux_4.13.0-38.43.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Keine Berechtigung)
[12:04] <interrobangd> any ideas?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:27] <Swagggg> Hi
[12:28] <Swagggg> Can someone help me out? I'm having some issues with dual booting Ubuntu 17.10 with Windows 10
[12:29] <Swagggg> Is anyone here?
[12:30] <leftyfb> !ask | Swagggg
[12:31] <leftyfb> Swagggg: detail your issue and someone should be able to help you
[12:31] <Swagggg> Oh okay, sorry! :D
[12:31] <Swagggg> I'm getting some errors when I try to boot into Ubuntu to install it alongside Windows. These are the errors I get: https://i.imgur.com/CV1RYcr.jpg
[12:32] <Swagggg> This is preventing Ubuntu from loading up.
[12:39] <abhyuday> hi
[12:41] <abhyuday> hey this is abbychak again
[12:49] <rohit__> Hi
[12:49] <kille> sup
[12:49] <rohit__> When I try to run the cmd  "sudo apt-get update "
[12:50] <rohit__> I got the error
[12:50] <rohit__> Reading package lists... Done W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) W: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed. N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use. N: See apt-secu
[12:50] <rohit__> s W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)
[12:50] <kille> do you get the same with sudo apt update
[12:51] <kille> not apt-get which is deprecated
[12:51] <rohit__> yed
[12:51] <rohit__> yes
[12:51] <rohit__> Yes, I tried with the    sudo apt update a well
[12:51] <rohit__> but got the same error
[12:52] <kille> hmmm. no idea, but we can googs together i spose? it looks like it is struggling to get the signatures / keys for the repos though...
[12:52] <kille> is gnupg installed? :)
[12:52] <rohit__> Nope.
[12:52] <rohit__> but when I try to install that
[12:53] <rohit__> I got the another error.
[12:53] <kille> have you rebooted? it may be a kernel problem according to google's first page...
[12:53] <rohit__> now installed
[12:53] <rohit__> but still facing the same issue
[12:54] <prohobo> .ping
[12:54] <kille> sorry, i am not really sure here, but i am trying to help :)
[12:54] <kille> .pong
[12:55] <rohit__> I'm use the digital-ocean ubuntu server
[12:55] <rohit__> there I'm facing that issue.
[12:55] <TJ-> rohit__: I suspect there's an HTTP proxy between you and the archive server that's returning modified/different files to those being requested
[12:56] <prohobo> .ping
[12:56] <TJ-> rohit__: try with debugging output and pastebin it. "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update"
[12:56] <TJ-> prohobo: pong!
[12:56] <rohit__> Linux gitrecruit-mean-s-1vcpu-1gb-nyc1-01 4.4.0-116-generic #140-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 12 21:23:04 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:56] <kille> lol, of course, it could be that too! #facepalm
[12:57] <kille> heck that kernel is old.
[12:57] <kille> i am on 4.16 already
[12:58] <TJ-> !info linux-image xenial
[12:58] <kille> but check the proxy first
 but check the proxy first
[13:00] <rohit__> How can I check that ?
[13:01] <rohit__>  but check the proxy first [18:30] <rohit__> How can I check that ?
[13:01] <kille> echo "$http_proxy"
[13:02] <kille> what shows up.
 what shows up.
[13:02] <rohit__> give me blank output
[13:02] <kille> no proxy.
[13:02] <rohit__> yup
[13:02] <kille> dang dude, TJ, you have any ideas? I will learn something here too. :)
[13:03] <TJ-> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[13:03] <TJ-> the proxy may be outside the VM
[13:04] <TJ-> rohit__: as I said earlier, try with debugging output and pastebin it. "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update"
[13:04] <leftyfb> kille: apt-get is not deprecated
 rohit__: as I said earlier, try with debugging output and pastebin it. "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update"
[13:05] <rohit__> I tried with the same
[13:06] <kille> leftyfb true, but apt is usually better for regular users, apt-get is close to the metal and backwards compatible.
[13:06] <rohit__> it gives me error
[13:06] <rohit__> Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1  Err:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-updates Release   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] Reading package lists... Done W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xeni
[13:06] <TJ-> rohit__: right, show us the entire output in a pastebin
[13:07] <TJ-> rohit__: use "pastebinit <( sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update ) "
[13:07] <leftyfb> https://askubuntu.com/questions/882039/no-sandbox-user-apt-on-the-system-can-not-drop-privileges
[13:07] <leftyfb> that relevant?
[13:07] <rohit__> 0% [Working]GET /ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease HTTP/1.1 Host: us.archive.ubuntu.com Cache-Control: max-age=0 Accept: text/* Range: bytes=246846- If-Range: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 23:24:48 GMT User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.2.26)   Answer for: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/InRelease HTTP/1.1 416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:58:18 GMT Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Transfer-Encoding: chunked
[13:07] <rohit__> 0% [Waiting for headers]Answer for: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/Release HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:58:19 GMT Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Content-Length: 315 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1  Err:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-updates Release   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80] Reading package lists... Done W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop pr
[13:07] <leftyfb> rohit__: please use pastebin
[13:07] <rohit__> W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creat
[13:07] <leftyfb> :/
[13:08] <rohit__> E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repo
[13:08] <leftyfb> rohit__: please use pastebin
[13:08] <rohit__> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating fro
[13:08] <TJ-> rohit__: please stop, and READ the instructions
[13:08] <rohit__> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease' is not signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[13:08] <TJ-> !paste | rohit__
[13:08] <rohit__> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu wily-updates Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[13:08] <leftyfb> TJ-: I would check that link. Check for the _apt user in /etc/passwd
[13:10] <TJ-> leftyfb: yeah, I'm aware of the _apt user issue, but it is just a warning.
[13:10] <TJ-> leftyfb: the issue here is corrupted content of the InRelease files
[13:11] <kille> well, would a bleachbit clean fix it?
[13:11] <TJ-> leftyfb: will need to delete the existing files in /var/lib/apt/lists{,/partial}/
[13:12] <jk^> !libreoffice
[13:13] <rohit__> when I try to install bower
[13:13] <rohit__> got the error
[13:13] <TJ-> rohit__: now you're able to chat again, do this: "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete"   ... after that do "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update | nc termbin.com 9999" and tell us the URL it reports
[13:14] <rohit__> lib/ld64.so.1: No such file or directory
[13:15] <abhyuday> Does ubuntu update over IPv6??
[13:15] <rohit__> now get the errot
[13:15] <rohit__> W: No sandbox user '_apt' on the system, can not drop privileges W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease: Could not execute 'apt-key' to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease' is not signed.
[13:15] <TJ-> abhyuday: Yes
[13:15] <rohit__> do this: "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete"   ... after that do "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update | nc termbin.com 9999" and tell us the URL it reports
[13:15] <rohit__> after this
[13:15] <rohit__> do this: "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete"   ... after that do "sudo apt -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update | nc termbin.com 9999" and tell us the URL it reports
[13:15] <TJ-> I give up!
[13:15] <abhyuday> rohit__, what's ur problem??
[13:16] <rohit__> can you suggest me how can I initialize my karnal
[13:16] <TJ-> rohit__: please stop spamming the channel with pasting, and follow the instructions you've been given
[13:17] <abhyuday> Rohit contact with me in my chat box
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> abhyuday, please do not take support topic off channel. all support needs to be offered in channel so others may benefit from the solutions given
[13:20] <rohit__> any can let me know how can I upgrade or reinitialize my digital-ocean ubuntu machine.
[13:20] <abhyuday> rohit__, meet at inbox, I'm helping
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> abhyuday, as you were already told... Do not take support conversations out of the channel. It needs to take place here so everyone can benefit
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> rohit__, suggestion: Open a support ticket with Digital Ocean: https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/
[13:24] <PCatinean> Is there any way to pipe a command to a custom shell script that takes a bit of time to load before opening the prompt?
[13:24] <jack_> dh
[13:24] <PCatinean> I can only think of piping the command with delay, but I wished there was a "wait until program is loaded" kinda thing
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean, set the script to read input from a file, and pass the file as an argument to the shell script
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean, then have the file contain the parameters/info that the script needs
[13:25] <PCatinean> pragmaticenigma, actually I was hoping for a shell command. I don't have control over the script to alter it :(
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean, you can look at something like "expect" it's a utility that will parse the output of a program or script, and when it sees the indicated text, it will enter the value given
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> !expect
[13:28] <albttx> I am trying to build a package ubuntu from source, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ufsutils/8.2-3 but i don't find how to do it... any idea ? lead ? tuto ?
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> PCatinean, take a look here for a similar scenario using SFTP https://stackoverflow.com/a/15682600
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> albttx, why are you trying to build from source albttx ?
[13:28] <PCatinean> ohhhh, that looks pretty similar to what I want pragmaticenigma :D
[13:29] <albttx> because it's not available on xenial, so i will try to fix it, but first i'm trying to build it from source on Precise where it's available
[13:30] <albttx> i wget the sources
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> albttx, again... why? what is the utility that you looking for... it may have been moved or deprecated for a different program
[13:30] <albttx> i need growfs.ufs
[13:31] <albttx> i need from debian to resize a ufs filesystem
[13:31] <albttx> from ubuntu*
[13:31] <TJ-> albttx: UFS on a *BSD OS?
[13:31] <albttx> yes,
[13:32] <geirha> must be a reason why it was removed
[13:32] <TJ-> albttx: from everything I know it's a dangerous job even when the Linux tooling is available, because there are so many different variations of UFS on the different varieties of *BSD. That's why the ufsutils project was dropped
[13:33] <albttx> i know..
[13:33] <albttx> but i have to try
[13:33] <generalfluffles> how to launch a .rar game
[13:33] <TJ-> albttx: I was investigating doing something similar on a pfSense router this week; it's not worth that hassle. If you need to do it use a *BSD native OS to do it
[13:33] <generalfluffles> i would go to GOL but they're dicks
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> !language | generalfluffles
[13:34] <albttx> @TJ- it will be my next move,
[13:34] <albttx> but first i want to try to compile the ufs
[13:34] <confluency> albttx: have you tried the trusty package?
[13:34] <generalfluffles> okay
[13:34] <generalfluffles> then
[13:34] <albttx> ufstools*
[13:35] <generalfluffles> may i repeat my question?
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> generalfluffles, no
[13:35] <generalfluffles> okay
[13:35] <albttx> fixing a PXE boot error create when i downgrade from xenial to precise
[13:35] <TJ-> albttx: if you're using a 12.04 chroot/container, then it's just "apt-get source ufsutils; cd ufsutils-*; apt-get build-dep ufsutils; fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[13:35] <albttx> (trusty package is deleted)
[13:36] <confluency> albttx: you can still download the deb from launchpad.
[13:37] <albttx> that what i did
[13:37] <confluency> And what happened?
[13:37] <albttx> thanks TJ missing the fakeroot command
[13:38] <rvgate> I always fail to find a nice diagram editor for ubuntu... anyone has any suggestions?
[13:38] <albttx> i'm doing it, keeping you in touch
[13:38] <TJ-> !info dia | rvgate
[13:39] <confluency> albttx: did you try just installing the *binary package*?
[13:40] <albttx> the binary package ?
[13:41] <confluency> albttx: I just did it on Artful; it installed without errors and growfs seems to work. I don't know why you're compiling the source package.
[13:41] <confluency> albttx: yes, the binary deb package which you can download from Launchpad.
[13:42] <escher_> hi
[13:42] <albttx> could you give me the link ?
[13:42] <confluency> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/ufsutils    ?
[13:42] <escher_> i encountered a bug in the driver-manager, where can i report it ?
[13:42] <TJ-> !bug | escher_
[13:42] <confluency> albttx: follow the link to your architecture.
[13:43] <escher_> thx
[13:44] <albttx> there is 3 download available: ufsutils_8.2.orig.tar.gz, ufsutils_8.2-3.debian.tar.gz, ufsutils_8.2-3.dsc
[13:44] <confluency> No, you've gone to the wrong place.
[13:44] <confluency> albttx: not the *source* package.
[13:44] <confluency> albttx: what is your architecture?
[13:45] <albttx> oh the: ufsutils_8.2-3_amd64.deb  ?
[13:45] <confluency> Yes.
[13:47] <albttx> ok nice, it's working from this
[13:48] <albttx> i'll try this from xenial
[13:48] <albttx> 🤞
[13:49] <jk^> !shockwave
[13:49] <jk^> !adobe
[13:49] <jk^> !flash
[13:49] <jk^> !restricted
[13:50] <XaXin> hi
[14:00] <prohobo> .ping
[14:11] <prohobo> .ping
[14:12] <TJ-> prohobo: please stop your client doing that
[14:12] <prohobo> i'm doing it manually
[14:13] <TJ-> prohobo: right, so stop doing it please
[14:13] <prohobo> stop saying .ping every 10 minutes?
[14:13] <prohobo> stop assaulting me
[14:22] <albttx> confluency not working... i have an issue, but there is a patch. back from scratch, need to compile from source with the patch
[14:22] <albttx> cf: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=632832
[14:23] <albttx> ubottu Same error !!
[14:23] <albttx> :(
[14:26] <leftyfb> albttx: this is not #debian.
[14:27] <leftyfb> albttx: if the bug is upstream, you'll need to seek support with upstream
[14:28] <albttx> leftyfb i'm on ubuntu, start talking about it previsouly, i found the same error on a debian thread.
[14:29] <leftyfb> albttx: I do not think that package is available in Ubuntu
[14:29] <leftyfb> albttx: If not, it's an unsupported package
[14:29] <albttx> it is on trusty
[14:29] <albttx> on precise*
[14:37] <confluency> We've established that it's no longer in the repos; this is an old package.
[14:39] <Vic2> Which package is nano in for 14.04 LTS ?
[14:42] <leftyfb> Vic2: nano
[14:43] <quem> asus zenbook or dell xps 13?
[14:46] <leftyfb> quem: that is not an ubuntu support question
[14:46] <TJ-> quem: both please :)
[14:49] <chakravanti> how do change the amount of time the screen goes blank and  demands a password?
[14:50] <pragmaticenigma> chakravanti, The Settings application will let you change those
[14:50] <chakravanti> pragmaticenigma, where? how?  doesn't seem to be anywhere
[14:51] <kostkon> chakravanti, which desktop environment are you using
[14:51] <chakravanti> nvm finally found it.  been digging all morning
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> chakravanti, System Settings => Brightness & Lock
[14:51] <chakravanti> systems-> Power
[14:52] <chakravanti> brightness and lock doesn't exist
[14:52] <kostkon> chakravanti, it shouldn't have taken that long to find it
[14:52] <chakravanti> my brain is litterally broken.  I was hit by a car and hit the ground.  A neurosurgeon removed my skull an recently put it back.
[14:53] <kostkon> chakravanti, yeah that sounds kinda bad
[14:53] <chakravanti> Learning linux again is all the details are like basic words my brain doesn't kineticly configure quickly
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> chakravanti, if you are using Ubuntu 16.04 that is whree it is located. If not, we would need more information on what desktop environment you are using (Gnome, KDE, XFCE, LXDE)
[14:53] <chakravanti> gnome
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> chakravanti, thanks
[14:54] <prohobo> .ping
[14:54] <pragmaticenigma> prohobo, Do you have an Ubuntu Support question?
[14:54] <leftyfb> prohobo: please stop
[14:55] <chakravanti> anyone know how to fix bluetooth?  Drivin me nuts lately.  I can connect to my Flip v4 but it won't broadcast sound/music
[14:55] <quem> leftyfb: which one is more compatible with ubuntu? ;)
[14:55] <quem> TJ-: i wish.
[14:55] <TJ-> chakravanti: you want broadcast from the PC over Bluetooth to other devices?
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> quem, We cannot determine that for you. Each user's experience is different based on the configuration of their computer and desire of what they wish to do with the computer.
[14:56] <leftyfb> quem: I don't know since I'm not familiar with Asus. The Dell XPS 13 comes with ubuntu
[14:56] <TJ-> quem: I've got XPS 13s here, and Asus T300CHI transformer, both without problems. Not sure about the Zen book
[14:57] <TJ-> quem: main thing I'd avoid is nvidia prime/optimus dual GPUs, seems to create more problems than it solves
[14:58] <chakravanti> TJ-, yes.  The device is a speaker and it does connect but it won't broadcast sound to the flip
[14:59] <quem> TJ-: ah, good to know.
[14:59] <TJ-> chakravanti: so the pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is installed then
[14:59] <TJ-> chakravanti: have you installed the Pulseaudio pavucontrol GUI config program?
[15:00] <quem> i just want something that runs ubuntu straight out of the box. my curious masochist slackware days are long.
[15:00] <quem> *long gone
[15:01] <chakravanti> TJ-, I did the last time, not this time.  I researched reinstalling working and it didn't but it originally worked installed
[15:02] <TJ-> chakravanti: in pavucontrol, on the Playback tab, the playing stream will show. To it's right there should be an Output drop-down menu where you can select the output device (if the bluetooth speaker is connected using A2DP)
[15:02] <TJ-> chakravanti: alternatively, on the pavucoontrol Output tab, you can set the default output device to the Bluetooth Speaker
[15:02] <leftyfb> quem: I also am typing on my 2nd XPS 13
[15:03] <chakravanti> I've used it beofre and it doesn't work.  I'll try it again now, installing atm.
[15:05] <chakravanti> TJ-, now bluetooth bugs out and won't even connect to my flip v4
[15:06] <chakravanti> it says it's paired and won't connect so i click remove device and it just doesn't do that.
[15:07] <TJ-> chakravanti: I know some people have reported the dumbed-down Gnome clients are useless for these kind of things. It might be worth installing and using 'blueman'
[15:11] <chakravanti> TJ-, I got them in and now it's connected to the Flip v4 but doesn't send it any sound.  It's all on my laptop.
[15:13] <TJ-> chakravanti: try using pavucontrol's Playback tab to change the output device of the stream, to begin with
[15:13] <TJ-> chakravanti: if that works, on pavucontrol's Output tab, press the green tick button to the right of the Bluetooth Speaker device to make it the default
[15:14] <chakravanti> TJ-, they don't exist there.  Blueman says it's connected but pavucontrol can't see it
[15:15] <TJ-> chakravanti: that is rather strange, that suggests pulseaudio's bluetooth module hasn't been loaded
[15:15] <TJ-> !info pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[15:16] <TJ-> chakravanti: if that package is installed try logging out and logging in to the user again to ensure that module is loaded
[15:17] <chakravanti> brb
[15:24] <chakravanti> same wrong situation TJ- device is connected but doesn't make sound the local laptop speakers are making sounds
[15:25] <TJ-> chakravanti: if you don't see the Bluetooth Speaker in pavucontrol Output tab that tells us the pulseaudio module isn't being loaded for some reason
[15:26] <chakravanti> TJ-, that's exactly the situation
[15:27] <TJ-> chakravanti: run the command shown in this pastebin; do you see the same/similar results? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PB7RTBFG3F/
[15:29] <chakravanti> yes
[15:29] <chakravanti> results are the same
[15:31] <TJ-> chakravanti: also, do you have module-bluez5-discover with "pactl list modules | grep bluez"
[15:31] <V7> Is it possible to get why after some amount of time Super key stops calling start menu ?
[15:31] <V7> Hey all btw
[15:31] <TJ-> chakravanti: might be bluez4 - I'm testing on 18.04
[15:32] <chakravanti> bluez5
[15:32] <TJ-> chakravanti: so everything is in place. On the pavucontrol Configuration tab, is the Bluetooth Speaker shown? if so, what profile is it set to?
[15:33] <TJ-> chakravanti: if you don't see it there then I suspect the bluetooth connection is *not* using A2DP, probably using headset (HDP) profile
[15:33] <chakravanti> pavu doesn't show it TJ-
[15:34] <TJ-> chakravanti: in which case run 'blueman', right-click on the bluetooth speaker device, and under Conect To: select "Audio Sink" (and tell us what it is currently set to)
[15:35] <TJ-> chakravanti: the program name is blueman-manager
[15:36] <chakravanti> I have done that before and it works but it send nothing sound to the device
[15:36] <chakravanti> Still nothing in pavu
[15:37] <TJ-> chakravanti: this is ensuring everything is set for the device to show up in pavucontrol.
[15:37] <TJ-> chakravanti: there may be something in syslog to help us, can you "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[15:38] <chakravanti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8bdtZcpDcG/
[15:38] <chakravanti> TJ-,
[15:43] <TJ-> chakravanti: reading it. I don't see any headset disconnect/reconnects there. Have you done that ?
[15:46] <chakravanti> I did with blueman  check it as audio sink and headset but nothing
[15:46] <chakravanti> TJ-,
[15:47] <RedNifre> Hi! Will 18.04 LTS have the ₿ Bitcoin symbol in its font? It was added to Unicode in 2017.
[15:48] <leftyfb> !bionic | RedNifre
[15:49] <TJ-> chakravanti: I'm not sure what's going on, everything seems to be in place but Pulseaudio isn't discovering the device
[15:49] <TJ-> chakravanti: which ubuntu release is it?
[15:49] <chakravanti> 16.04 Ubuntu and Ubuntu GNOME both have the same problem
[15:51] <TJ-> chakravanti: I didn't have problems with 16.04 before I upgraded to 18.04 . Can I suggest you create a new user account, log-out of your usually account, log-in to the new account, and try using the Bluetooth Speaker? If that works it narrows down the problem to something in your regular user configuration
[15:52] <chakravanti> user acount in what TJ-?
[15:53] <TJ-> chakravanti: another user account on the PC. There wull be a GUI tool to manager users somewhere. I don't use Gnome so I cannot tell you where. Maybe someone else who uses Gnome can give a pointer to that
[15:54] <RedNifre> Thank you for the redirect, #ubuntu+1 answered my questions (₿ does indeed work on Ubuntu 18.04 :)
[15:54] <chakravanti> TJ-, my last suspect at the time is GNOME,  I love gnome but it's associated and gonna be my next attempt
[15:58] <TJ-> chakravanti: you could also check the module is commanded to load with " grep blue /etc/pulse/default.pa $HOME/.config/pulse/default.pa "
[16:01] <yuksel> hi
[16:01] <chakravanti> TJ-, grep: /home/user/.config/pulse/default.pa: No such file or directory
[16:02] <TJ-> chakravanti: that's expected unless there is a custom local config, but here (on 18.04) there are 4 hits from /etc/pulse/default.pa
[16:02] <chakravanti> yeah i go those
[16:03] <chakravanti> got*
[16:03] <TJ-> chakravanti: so they look like this (not prefixed with a #) ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fKK5CtYJmD/
[16:03] <chakravanti> yes exactly the same TJ-
[16:04] <DT> Hi, all. I have a question. Linux+Unity 3D+Vuforia: you know if they work?
[16:04] <TJ-> chakravanti: I have to go now, but we've gone through all the obvious package/config issues. The core problem is Pulseaudio not discovering the BT device at all, which suggests a possible DBus or apparmor error, or the module isn't actually loaded
[16:05] <chakravanti> TJ-, thank you. I'm gonna reinstall without gnome next because that's my issues similarily
[16:12] <prohobo> .ping
[16:13] <leftyfb> prohobo: what is your damage?
[16:18] <prohobo> nothing
[16:18] <leftyfb> prohobo: then please stop
[16:46] <bobo_> hi, i install ubuntu 16.04 unity in persistent to usb but it won't boot. error:disk `hd0,4 not found alloc magic is broken at 0xc5bb33e0:c59c8280 ... i tried to reinstall it few times but same result. how can I format that usb to install in clean?
[17:02] <u0_a149> hi
[17:11] <T4P4N> Hell YeaH!
[17:12] <T4P4N> @_McGuyver Hi
[17:19] <energizer> utI have a usb hub plugged into my motherboard. It takes power from the power supply and data from the motherboard. Plugging in a keybaord or flash drive, nothing works but the flash drive lights up. Not sure if its a hardware or software problem.
[17:19] <energizer> Is there an 'enable usb device' setting somewhere
[17:20] <nacc> energizer: do you get any messages in dmesg when you plug in the device?
[17:20] <energizer> nacc: plug in the hub or the flash drive?
[17:21] <energizer> nacc: the hub is plugged in with some other cable (not usb) to the mobo
[17:21] <nacc> energizer: it's a usb hub not over usb?
[17:21] <energizer> nacc: right
[17:21] <nacc> energizer: plug in anything ... i mean does the kernel see your device
[17:21] <nacc> energizer: why would you do that? :)
[17:21] <nacc> energizer: what is it connected via?
[17:23] <TJ-> sounds like someone's hotwired a mobo USB header :)
[17:23] <nacc> right, it sounds like just buggy hardware :)
[17:24] <energizer> "3.5-Inch Front Bay USB 3.0 Expansion Port and Card Reader Front panel" https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KJ1TGS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[17:24] <energizer> used to work, not sure what changed
[17:25] <TJ-> energizer: ah, so it plugs into a motherboard header with a flat ribbon cable type thing
[17:26] <energizer> TJ-: something like that
[17:26] <TJ-> energizer: which Ubuntu release and kernel is it ("cat /etc/issue; uname -r")
[17:27] <TJ-> energizer: originally you made it sound like some hub outside the PC you'd manually wired into a USB socket :)
[17:27] <energizer> hehe
[17:28] <TJ-> energizer: can you plug them in then show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[17:29] <energizer> TJ-: nacc when i plug a flash drive in, while running `dmesg --follow --human,` nothing changes
[17:32] <energizer> likewise with keyboard
[17:32] <energizer> whereas it does change when i plug them into the other usb slots
[17:32] <energizer> i guess that means its hardware or disabled somewhere dmesg can't see
[17:33] <energizer> which means hardware or BIOS, right?
[17:33]  * JimBuntu is waiting for the, with the computer on... open the panel... disconnect the hub and re-insert while watching dmesg
[17:33] <TJ-> energizer: is the USB hub reported by lsusb ?
[17:34] <energizer> TJ-: idk
[17:36] <shree> i can't select any option in software&update...what to do..?
[17:36] <energizer> lsusb https://ptpb.pw/lpHx
[17:38] <TJ-> energizer: does the PC have other USB3 ports besides that front panel ?
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> shree: option of what? wich ubuntu version?
[17:39] <energizer> TJ-: 2 others in the front
[17:39] <energizer> TJ-: 3 on the hub
[17:40] <TJ-> energizer: OK, so those are probably on the "Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub"
[17:40] <shree> i am using ubuntu 16.04
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> shree: ok, explain what you trying to do, and what doesnt work exactly?
[17:41] <TJ-> energizer: As JimBuntu said... try opening the PC and unplugging/replugging the data connection (at both ends)
[17:41] <strix_> hi i can't do my res 1920x1080 after installing latest nvidia drivers for my gtx 750 ti
[17:42] <theoceaniscool> Hello, how do I fully destroy a systemd service after a failed uninstall?
[17:42] <shree> i want to install select Source code in ubuntu software & update but i can't select any option
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> shree: are you admin of your system, or logged in as regular user?
[17:43]  * energizer shorts mobo, electrocuting self, dies
[17:43] <shree> i think i am admin because i selected auto-login during installation
[17:44] <shree> yup i am admin
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> shree: did you update your system to latest? check with lsb_release -a
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> shree: is it possible to share a screenshot of your locked software & sources?
[17:45] <Carll> 1
[17:45] <shree> lsb_release -a shows ==> No LSB modules are available.
[17:46] <JimBuntu> Carll, you are starting the count-down in the wrong order ;-)
[17:46] <nacc> shree: is that all it says?
[17:46] <nacc> shree: it should be 5 lines
[17:46] <Carll> Shouldn't it show more lines underneath?
[17:46] <Carll> JimBuntu: Counting up, counting down never worked for me ;-)
[17:47] <shree> yup it give me this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t5zryX4cs8/
[17:47] <kus> hi, what is the limit of text I can copy to clipboard?
[17:48] <kus> I should be able to copy a 780k SQL file to clipboard no?
[17:48] <nacc> kus: why would you?
[17:48] <nacc> kus: if you have a file, you don't need to copy & paste
[17:49] <kus> the file is inside docker and I did docker exec -it
[17:49] <kus> ah you mean I should just find the file int he file system?
[17:49] <nacc> kus: right ...
[17:49] <nacc> kus: why are you copying and pasting a SQL file?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> shree: ok system looks good!
[17:50] <shree> i think this will help you to dignous prblm ==> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q3yJPmwxc2/
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> shree: ah, we dont support external ppa's here mate
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | shree to clean your system
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> shree: we advise strongly to use packages/software from the official ubuntu repos
[17:53] <shree> ok sir, how many ppa repository i want to update..
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> shree: what do you mean?
[17:56] <bobo_> how to format usb with bootable ubuntu 16.04 ... fail to boot even after few reinstalls so want try reinstall in clean ...
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> bobo_: wich tool have you used to create it?
[17:56] <bobo_> lotuspsychje, mkusb
[17:56] <bobo_> persistent
[17:56] <energizer> Replugged into the case, working now.
[17:57] <energizer> s/case/mobo/
[17:57] <kus> nacc I guess it isn't Ubuntu
[17:57] <kus> 's fault. the place I paste to limits the number of chars?
[17:58] <nacc> kus: depends on what you use to c&p and what it's limit is
[17:58] <kus> I wanted to paste into github dot com
[17:58] <kus> :/
[17:58] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_: Have you tried using dd yet?
[17:59] <bobo_> Irritiable|LT, no
[17:59] <nacc> kus: right, i meant, what you used to c&p
[17:59] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[17:59] <nacc> kus: you can just pastebinit, fwiw
[17:59] <nacc> kus: but again, why are you c&p a SQL file??
[17:59] <shree> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZXZnFvgQj6/ <== see this
[17:59] <nacc> kus: it just doesn't seem to be sensible to do
[17:59] <bobo_> Disk /dev/sdb: 7.5 GiB, 8019509248 bytes, 15663104 sectors
[17:59] <bobo_> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[17:59] <bobo_> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[17:59] <bobo_> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[17:59] <bobo_> Disklabel type: gpt
[17:59] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_: sudo umount /dev/sd<?><?>
[17:59] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_sudo dd bs=4M if=input.iso of=/dev/sd<?> conv=fdatasync
[17:59] <bobo_> Disk identifier: B750FE8A-3FFC-4BDB-A8FF-5B704116162B
[18:00] <nacc> !paste | bobo_
[18:00] <nacc> !who | shree
[18:00] <Irritiable|LT> Spamming is a bad idea, bobo_. Now nobody can hear you. :(
[18:00] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_: You should just use DD.
[18:00] <Irritiable|LT> bobo_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[18:00] <shree> ok @ubottu
[18:01] <shree> @nacc please help to purge ppa
[18:03] <shree> please help me to ppa-purge
[18:04] <nacc> shree: what do you need help with?
[18:04] <shree> i can't use ppa-purge
[18:05] <nacc> shree: ... what happens when you do?
[18:05] <EriC^^> shree: why can't you ppa-purge?
[18:06] <shree> The program 'ppa-purge' is currently not installed. You can install it by typin...but can't install with apt
[18:06] <bobo_> thanks
[18:06] <bobo_> Irritiable|LT,
[18:06] <Irritiable|LT> boblamont:
[18:07] <shree> it giving me this error ==>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DT2QDJ7Cqg/
[18:08] <V7> Hey all
[18:08] <V7> Is there any way to execute a command if any byte was sent to or from specific interface ?
[18:09] <nacc> shree: you need to fix your install first (see line 5 of your paste)
[18:09] <nacc> shree: duplicati is also not an ubuntu package afaict
[18:09] <Irritiable|LT> V7: Sounds quite possible, but a painful solution.
[18:11] <shree> @nacc i suggestion as line 5 ==>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8jfJKdJdHt/
[18:13] <V7> Irritiable|LT: Why
[18:14] <Irritiable|LT> V7: I don't do systems level programming.
[18:17] <shree> @nacc can you see that output...?
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> !sources | shree
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> shree: thats why we dont reccomend adding external ppa's, your system got scrambled and cant install ppa-purge due apt problems
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> shree: try deleting your ppa sources, revert to the ubuntu default sources, and apt update again...if that doesnt work..clean install
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> shree: you could try recoverymode aswell
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | shree
[18:26] <shree> @ubottu i am noobs for ubuntu..please help to remove ppa
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> shree: make your life easy, reinstall ubuntu clean..30min of your time and you get a fresh new ubuntu without ppa's
[18:28] <shree> !ubottu my sytem is booting processec is ok but i have olny problem with ppa
[18:30] <shree> @lotuspsychje i want fast boot system after a very long time i achived 39s booting speed
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> shree: install ubuntu clean, youl go even faster
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> V7, You could, but I think you underestimate the amount of bytes hitting all interfaces... If you're thinking of your networking interface that's even worse. Depending on your network setup, there is constant "hits" against your network interface from broadcasts sent to all devices on the network in addition to the traffic you expect to come to that local machine.
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> V7, If you were to attache a simple system beep to it, your machine would sound like it was flatlining
[18:32] <Bashing-om> shree: "Startup finished in 4.580s (kernel) + 4.747s (userspace) = 9.328s graphical.target reached after 3.169s in userspace" . On 18.04 xubuntu-core .
[18:33] <shree> @lotuspsychje i want to increse more speed what is best task to do after fresh installation....
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> shree: sudo apt install preload bleachbit
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> shree: cleanup space with bleachbit and speedup system with preload
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> shree: disable unwanted services from your startup items
[18:35] <marcin00> hi
[18:35] <pragmaticenigma> marcin00, hello! Do you have an Ubuntu Support question?
[18:35] <bigpic> hey guys i’d like to encrypt my swap partition.. I came across ecryptfs-setup-swap
[18:35] <shree> @lotuspsychje i have head somewhere for booting there is software which store lastlogin data in sequence ...do you which was that...?
[18:35] <bigpic> my question is how does it manage keys?
[18:36] <V7> pragmaticenigma: understood
[18:36] <bigpic> does it prompt for a password on reboot?
[18:36] <V7> pragmaticenigma: Does this command eat a lot "netstat --interfaces | grep $interface1 | awk '{ print $4 }'" ?
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> V7, if you're attempting to monitor your network traffic... check out wireshark
[18:37] <V7> pragmaticenigma: Just idndicate
[18:37] <V7> Without packet sniffing and such
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> V7, I'm not familiar enough with netstat to understand that command
[18:38] <pragmaticenigma> bigpic, if you're going for true system security, yes, you will have to enter the password at each boot
[18:38] <V7> Roger that pragmaticenigma
[18:38] <marcin00> pragmaticenigma: yes
[18:38] <marcin00> I have a problem. On the server I have a lot of POST entries via NGINX and from time to time there are a lot of write errors. Checking with the help of atop I see that the dirty memory is over 12GB. When everything is allright the dirty memory is up to 100MB. How to find a reason?
[18:38] <bigpic> I’d like for it to auto generate a new key for the swap on each boot
[18:38] <bigpic> thus securing between reboots
[18:39] <bigpic> essentially purging it
[18:39] <shree> i want one suggetion is anybody free for that
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> bigpic, it might help to understand what your intent is by encrypting swap. There are better ways of setting up your file system that are easier to manage
[18:41] <bigpic> we’re doing own own encryption for the mysql db.  I just want to protect anything decrypted that resides in memory in plain text that may be flushed to disk
[18:42] <bigpic> the tutorials for ecryptfs-setup-swap does mention anything about setting up a password
[18:42] <bigpic> so I was wondering if it created a new key at each boot
[18:42] <bigpic> which is kinda what i’m after
[18:43] <bigpic> i just want to protect the swap at rest and it can be purged during start
[18:43] <shree> e4rat is usefull or not..?
[18:44] <pragmaticenigma> bigpic, that might be a question better asked to the developers http://ecryptfs.org/support.html
[18:46] <marcin00> Is there anyone able to lead me on a clue?
[18:46] <leftyfb> !ask | marcin00
[18:46] <marcin00> ok, sorry :)
[18:47] <leftyfb> bigpic: disable swap
[18:48] <bigpic> yea that was a thought.. but swap comes in handy the odd time on a database server :)
[18:48] <shree> @ubottu shold i install e4rat of it will also damage my system...?
[18:48] <leftyfb> not if you've got a decent amount of memory and not doing bad things
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> bigpic, leftyfb does have a good idea... if the system has adequate ram, you really don't need swap files
[18:48] <leftyfb> bigpic: if you've got 16GB or more and you're swapping, you're doing something horrible
[18:48] <bigpic> I have 256GB of ram
[18:49] <bigpic> But I have 2tb worth of databases + ZFS for disk
[18:49] <bigpic> Ram is near capacity all the time
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> bigpic, then you have a system configuration issue... I'd start by looking at using something other than MySQL/mariaDB as your Database... MySQL/MariaDB are great for small projects/apps... PostGRE is on par with handling much larger datasets and applications
[18:52] <leftyfb> bigpic: there shouldn't be any need to have 2tb or WAY less of tables opened at any given moment
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb, it
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb, it's a common issue with MySQL... it doesn't like to dispose of tables once loaded
[18:53] <james1138> Hello to all from Indiana. Can I ask a somewhat technical question about Banshee Media player here??
[18:54] <leftyfb> !ask | james1138
[18:55] <james1138> Sorry Ubottu. Has anyonne been able to stream video to Banshee? Example - add YouTube as a "source".
[18:55] <Menzador> (I don't know why in the world people are apologising to the bot)
[18:56] <Menzador> (but it's causing feedback, please don't tag the bot in that way. Thanks!)
[18:56] <ioria> case sensitive
[18:58] <None> Hi
[18:58] <pragmaticenigma> james1138, streaming sites like youtube.com and others have strict terms of service that do not allow using applications like banshee to stream their content. Those sites implement various tools to prevent applications other than webbrowsers from viewing their content.
[18:59] <james1138> ok.  thanx
[19:00] <ioria> james1138, totem -> Add Web Video
[19:00] <luxio> I held down the power button to shut off and I think I messed something up because the screen is at an extremely low resolution and when I start up I see text saying "clearing orphaned inode" or something
[19:00] <luxio> How do I recover from this?
[19:00] <luxio> I'm on 17.10 btw
[19:01] <leftyfb> luxio: Is this on a desktop/laptop or other?
[19:01] <luxio> desktop
[19:01] <tomreyn> !reisub | luxio: for next time:
[19:01] <leftyfb> luxio: sounds like a drive issue
[19:01] <leftyfb> mmmmm skinny elephants
[19:01] <rud0lf> i think E and I are disabled by default
[19:01] <ioria> luxio, i'd go with a fsck
[19:01] <leftyfb> I'd go with SMART first, then fsck :)
[19:01] <None> Are you have in you Ubuntu driver for HDMI?
[19:01] <luxio> how do I do those?
[19:02] <tomreyn> rud0lf: right, there's only a SUBset left now
[19:03] <leftyfb> rud0lf: but how are we supposed to raise skinny elephants with no elephants? silly
[19:03] <ioria> luxio, fsck can be triggered from Recovery, smart installing smartmontools
[19:03] <tomreyn> None: can you rephrase?
[19:03] <tomreyn> !ru | None
[19:04] <ioria> luxio, and running sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[19:05] <luxio> how do I know which sd_ I'm on
[19:05] <segersjerry> None, In linux, you have drivers for graphics cards, not their individual connections.
[19:05] <luxio> I have a, b, c
[19:06] <leftyfb> luxio: no harm in running SMART on all of them
[19:06] <luxio> ok
[19:06] <ioria> luxio,  'mount' 'sudo parted -l' check fstab , etc, etc .
[19:07] <luxio> leftyfb: now what do I do once I've ran the command?
[19:08] <tomreyn> luxio: they *may* have clues on whether your disk drives are falling apart and need to be replaced.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> luxio: " no harm in running SMART on all of them" that are extX file systems .
[19:09] <strix_> Hi,I'm unable to set 1920x1080 60Hz mode as it's not listed.
[19:09] <strix_> i was using nouveou but now i changed to nvidia 375
[19:09] <luxio> strix_: virtualbox?
[19:09] <strix_> no
[19:09] <strix_> it's my  pc
[19:09] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: SMART doesn't care about a filesystem
[19:10] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: were you referring to fsck?
[19:10] <strix_> I'm using kde neon
[19:10] <luxio> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FT3FgSXRhh/
[19:10] <luxio> that's the smart thing
[19:10] <TheSov> anyone know of a good stock ticker app for the ubuntu desktop?
[19:10] <luxio> the output of it
[19:11] <TheSov> im looking for something that appears as the desktop background or a small bar with the ticker prices
[19:11] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Yes, sorry for incomplete thought .
[19:12] <leftyfb> TheSov: look at conky
[19:12] <strix_> Hi,
[19:12] <strix_> I'm unable to set 1920x1080 60Hz mode as it's not listed. I was using nouveou and now I changed to nvidia 375 driver but there is only 1360x760 res why?
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | strix_
[19:13] <TheSov> leftyfb, thanks!
[19:13] <tomreyn> luxio: SMART 187 (Reported Uncorrectable Errors) and SMART 188 (Command Timeout) are elevated, not good.
[19:14] <luxio> tomreyn: so, just a dead drive?
[19:14] <luxio> I mean no big deal if it is, it's like an 8 year old drive I frankensteined out of a Walmart laptop
[19:14] <TheSov> hey leftyfb that looks great!, how to do set it up to show stock prices?
[19:14] <leftyfb> TheSov: that's what the documentation is for
[19:16] <tomreyn> luxio: it doesn't look healthy. you could run a long self test against it, this may provide a better idea of its status. smartctl -t long /dev/sdX
[19:17] <luxio> ok it says please wait 83 minutes
[19:17] <tomreyn> luxio: 11024 is a lot for sure, and consider geting an ssd or 7200 rpm drive next time,
[19:17] <luxio> will it make a file or something
[19:18] <luxio> tomreyn: yeah I have an SSD it's just running Windows, so might delete some stuff to make room for Ubuntu
[19:19] <tomreyn> luxio: it's performing a lonmg self test now. the result will be displayed in -a outpout later (also the remaining time is displayed there)
[19:19] <chakravanti> Why does ubuntu install its own self the wrong way into a USB drive so I can't boot ubuntu from ubuntu making ubuntu
[19:19] <xamithan> because of uefi
[19:20] <luxio> tomreyn: `sudo smartctl -a output /dev/sdc`?
[19:20] <tomreyn> luxio: "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc" if sdc (third hard disk) is the one you are interested in
[19:21] <chakravanti> xamithan you mean my usb maker computer or the one I am attempting to install ubuntu into?
[19:21] <xamithan> the efi boot loader stays on the machine
[19:21] <luxio> tomreyn: ok. how can I tell when it's done?
[19:22] <tomreyn> luxio: the output of this command will tell in the "SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1" table
[19:22] <xamithan> So it would be the one you install ubuntu into with the usb
[19:22] <chakravanti> which?
[19:22] <tomreyn> luxio: i.e. the table starting line 86 will have a new record https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FT3FgSXRhh/
[19:23] <luxio> oh ok
[19:23] <tomreyn> luxio: also it will no longer list the reomaing time to complete the long self test on top
[19:23] <xamithan> So what you have to do is remove the entry the installer creates on the hdd for the usb.  Then install grub or whatever directly to the usb device
[19:23] <tomreyn> luxio: something to read for the mean time if you like https://www.backblaze.com/blog/what-smart-stats-indicate-hard-drive-failures/
[19:24] <chakravanti> I can't even boot the USB
[19:24] <luxio> tomreyn: I dont see a remaining time, maybe I'm missing something https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gdFjynq2TX/
[19:24] <tomreyn> luxio: also this table helps interpreting the values https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#Known_ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes
[19:25] <tomreyn> luxio: you're right, not time, it's percentage. see line 28
[19:27] <tomreyn> luxio: you should also see new records in the table starting line 89, "SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1", once the test completes
[19:27] <luxio> ah gotcha. thank you!
[19:28] <xamithan> Yeah it won't boot until you put a loader on it chakravanti.  Easiest way is to use a liveusb to run rescue mode and have it mount the boot from the other usb to use grub-install(or sysd or refind or whatever)
[19:28] <Irritiable|LT> Is there a way to cause files to NOT go to the "trash bin," but directly deleted (with or without yes/no confirmation)?
[19:28] <luxio> Irritiable|LT: depends what you mean by "deleted"
[19:29] <luxio> erased or removed?
[19:29] <xamithan> I only did those as a test because running stricly from usb is very very very slow
[19:29] <Irritiable|LT> luxio: Normal behavior throws any 'deleted' file into the 'trash bin' initially.
[19:29] <luxio> Irritiable|LT: you could always `shred -vzu filename`
[19:30] <Irritiable|LT> luxio: That behavior is defined where?
[19:31] <luxio> Irritiable|LT: it's not you'd have to run it from the shell
[19:32] <Irritiable|LT> luxio: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/files-delete.html
[19:32] <Irritiable|LT> Shift + Delete performs the desired behavior.
[19:33] <CookieM> Irritiable|LT, go to file manager’s edit→preferences, select ”behavior” tab, check
[19:34] <chakravanti> xamithan I recovering from a damaged brain.  A driver pushed me off of my bike and I hit my head on the ground so I'm recovering and for a usb broken to install ubuntu into a system I feel like something is crazy in my life
[19:34] <chakravanti> this is bull
[19:35] <chakravanti> How do I make an USB to install UBUNTU with>>>???
[19:35] <leftyfb> chakravanti: what OS are you making the USB on?
[19:35] <leftyfb> chakravanti: sorry, just getting on here now
[19:35] <chakravanti> ubuntu GNOME lefty
[19:35] <luxio> chakravanti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[19:35] <chakravanti> leftyfb,
[19:35] <leftyfb> chakravanti: use the startup disk creator
[19:35] <xamithan> chakravanti: Well if it makes you feel any better,  they used to have a good option in the install disc called alternate install that worked properly
[19:36] <CookieM> …additional command ”remove” that doesn’t put files in trash
[19:38] <leftyfb> chakravanti: also, what version of ubuntu are you running and what version are you looking to install?
[19:38] <chakravanti> thank you everyone, I have no idea why it works but it does
[19:38] <chakravanti> 16.04
[19:38] <chakravanti> same
[19:38] <chakravanti> different computer
[19:38] <leftyfb> so startup disk creator worked?
[19:41] <chakravanti> it was gparted
[19:41] <leftyfb> gparted?
[19:43] <chakravanti> leftyfb, I used gparted to install all .iso installing visions
[19:46] <ioria> chakravanti, can you define 'visions' ?
[19:47] <edisonbulb> dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX
[19:47] <edisonbulb> warning: be careful & unmount disk first
[19:48] <edisonbulb> fdisk -l
[19:48] <edisonbulb> to identify disks prior to running
[19:51] <edisonbulb> warning #2: running dd like this will wipe ALL data on the disk specified in of
[19:51] <ioria> edisonbulb, idk where you got that dd version from
[20:00] <edisonbulb> correct, my statement was inaccurate. revision: "running dd like this has a possibility of rendering files on the disk specified in of irrecoverable, and will mess up the partition table"
[20:02] <ecormier> difficult to impossible is the range... :)
[20:06] <texla> Is four the amount of primary pariti0ns that you can have on a hard disc
[20:07] <ecormier> with mbr yes
[20:08] <ecormier> with gpt no
[20:08] <texla> How can I check each parition to assure it is primary or extension
[20:08] <ecormier> lsblk
[20:09] <texla> ecormier, Thanks for the info
[20:09] <ecormier> yw
[20:14] <Anthaas_> How do I open a tty?
[20:15] <vacho> googleads/googleads-php-lib 25.4.0 requires ext-soap * -> the requested PHP extension soap is missing from your system.
[20:15] <vacho> I am getting that error on my ubuntu web server 16.04, can someone help me install that extension?
[20:15] <crimson_king> Anthaas_, Ctrl + Alt + F1 or F2 or F3 up to F7 (these are configured by default)
[20:15] <nacc> vacho: sudo apt install php-soap
[20:16] <Anthaas_> crimson_king: At what point though? Because Im logged in, and they are doing nothing.
[20:17] <NoCode> Is there a way to get the latest Nautilus in 16.04? I want that fancy sidebar in the soon-to-be newest release. The release candidate I guess.
[20:20] <crimson_king> Anthaas_, see if any of these situations apply to you: https://askubuntu.com/questions/671755/ctrlaltf1-12-dont-switch-to-tty
[20:32] <chakravanti>  why can I not modify an install that was wrong?  I have a 30GB drive I'm going to put the system in and I did it and it fed up now I reboot on a new hdd and that system is broken but I can't figure out how to delete it
[20:36] <sruli> i have a dir name starts with a "?" (not sure if thats real or if fs shows it as that as cannot display the real symbol) i cant find anyway to rename it, any ideas?
[20:37] <sruli> ^ when i exec find in that dir it shows regular file name without "?"
[20:41] <Hashtag> I have a question about the gnome interface
[20:41] <oerheks> sruli, what OS made that dir name?
[20:41] <Hashtag> How can I make the file browser stop showing hidden files by default?
[20:42] <Hashtag> It doesn't show hidden files in the command prompt
[20:42] <sruli> oerheks: no clue, must have been win years ago
[20:42] <ecormier> oerheks: iirc I've seen that before with fs corruption
[20:42] <oerheks> Hashtag, hit ctrl + h
[20:42] <Hashtag> oerheks: That hides them, but it I close the file browser and re-open it, they're visible again
[20:43] <Hashtag> I want them hidden when I open the file browser
[20:43] <oerheks> Hashtag, odd, here it does keep the setting
[20:44] <ecormier> that might happen if there was another nautilus window open
[20:44] <ecormier> actually no
[20:44] <Hashtag> I found the solution https://askubuntu.com/questions/258642/hidden-files-always-being-shown
[20:44] <ecormier> the behaviour should be everywhere
[20:45] <Hashtag> Don't know why it was acting like that
[20:45] <Hashtag> Yeah, I had freshly rebooted and no windows were open
[20:45] <crimson_king> this happened to me too
[20:45] <crimson_king> only switching through preferences window makes it preserve the setting
[20:51] <luxio> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V37759Qtq6/
[20:52] <luxio> sorry meant to ping tomreyn
[20:52] <luxio> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V37759Qtq6/
[21:01] <tomreyn> luxio: no additional errors were detected during the test.
[21:01] <tomreyn> however, the overall condition is still far from mint, it's just an oooold disk.
[21:02] <luxio> tomreyn: so is it possible to recover? i.e. get full resolution, normal startup?
[21:13] <luxio> I just need this install for like 2 more weeks until I can wipe it and install Ubuntu 18 on my SSD
[21:13] <jack-lH7Wah> a
[21:13] <jack-lH7Wah> uggvuy
[21:13] <jack-lH7Wah> uhhh
[21:14] <luxio> jack-lH7Wah: do you have a question?
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> eenode.net (2001:1bc0:c1::6667) port 8001...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * Connected. Now logging in...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * *** Checking Ident
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> no
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> eenode.net (2001:1bc0:c1::6667) port 8001...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * Connected. Now logging in...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> * *** Checking Ident
[21:14] <leftyfb> jack-lH7Wah: please stop
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> stop what
[21:14] <jack-lH7Wah> stranger
[21:14] <luxio> this is an ubuntu support channel
[21:14] <luxio> please stop sending useless messages
[21:15] <leftyfb> jack-lH7Wah: stop pasting output from your IRC client
[21:30] <knowledge_crawle> Hello to everyone, is somebody here willing to help me about connecting Microsoft natural elite keyboard over PS/2 -> USB adapter to my laptop? It keeps recognizing it as barcode scanner...
[21:32] <knowledge_crawle> Please... :)
[21:34] <slingamn> i'm on artful and i'm getting compilation failures from systemtap that might indicate some kind of incompatibility between the systemtap package and the kernel version
[21:34] <slingamn> /tmp/stapw799cT/stap_2b5505ba8af651817c2f6c55398c5877_6060_src.c:698:17: error: ‘__GFP_REPEAT’ undeclared (first use in this function); did you mean ‘__GFP_RECLAIM’?
[21:34] <slingamn> look familiar to anyone?
[21:34] <xamithan> I thought the microsoft natural keyboards needed to have keytouch installed.  Then you go to keyboards in settings and change it to which one you have
[21:36] <knowledge_crawle> Really... I'll try and get back to you in a few minutes. Thanks
[21:37] <xamithan> I don't see that specific one in the list of supported though
[21:37] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, is there a reason the systemtap package in apt isn't working for you?
[21:37] <slingamn> that's what i did
[21:37] <slingamn> apt-get install systemtap
[21:38] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, packages do not compile, they install... when we see compile we assume your are compiling from source
[21:38] <slingamn> right, so systemtap works by compiling its DSL into a kernel module
[21:38] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, do you have any 3rd party ppa's enabled?
[21:38] <slingamn> no
[21:39] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, can you post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com and send us the link?
[21:40] <slingamn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gQpDwkTS2W/
[21:42] <slingamn> there's also a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list containing what you would expect
[21:43] <knowledge_crawle> xamithan, neither do I, it is really old model but very comfortable for typing... Didn't solve my problem
[21:43] <knowledge_crawle> Do you have any other things I could try?
[21:45] <xamithan> The keyboard config is called microsoftelite.  If you can find in the settings where to change it that should work
[21:46] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, have you run a system update recently and have a pending reboot?
[21:46] <slingamn>  /proc/version says 4.13.0-38-generic which is also the latest thing in /boot
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, what is the result of "ls /var/run/reboot-required"
[21:48] <slingamn> ls: cannot access '/var/run/reboot-required': No such file or directory
[21:52] <tomreyn> luxio: run fsck -p on all file systems from recovery
[21:55] <tomreyn> i mean "fsck -a" on all file systems (other than swap)
[21:56] <pragmaticenigma> slingamn, does anything on this page look to be of use? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Systemtap
[22:15] <zamba> which audio cd ripper do you suggest for gnome?
[22:16] <geirha> the defautl, rhythmbox, suffices for the task
[22:16] <oerheks> !info asunder
[22:17] <TJ-> slingamn: which kernel is that? __GFP_RECLAIM was changed to use __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL in July 2017
[22:18] <slingamn> i'm running 4.13.0-38-generic
[22:18] <slingamn> the latest artful kernel
[22:19] <chegney> I'm having a problem that i'm hoping someone can help me with
[22:19] <TJ-> slingamn: right, the change was introduced in v4.13
[22:20] <slingamn> hmm
[22:20] <chegney> my user can't issue sudo commands even though he is in the sudo group
[22:20] <slingamn> so artful's systemtap package needs to be updated?
[22:20] <chegney> My sudo config looks okay when I used visudo
[22:21] <geirha> chegney: does running ''groups'' alone, include sudo in its output?
[22:21] <chegney> @geirha as the user or as root?
[22:21] <geirha> as the user who want to use sudo
[22:22] <chegney> no
[22:22] <chegney> but I used the command adduser <username> sudo
[22:22] <TJ-> slingamn: looks like you should report a bug, yes
[22:22] <geirha> chegney: ok, does ''groups "$USER"''  list sudo?
[22:23] <TJ-> slingamn: looks like it'll affect 18.04 too
[22:23] <TJ-> slingamn: and 16.04 with the hwe/hwe-edge kernels
[22:23] <slingamn> cool
[22:23] <chegney> geirha: output is <username> sudo
[22:24] <geirha> chegney: ok, so group membership only takes effect next time you log in, so you just haven't logged out and back in again since adding your user to the sudo group
[22:24] <TJ-> slingamn: let me know the bug number, I'll add something to it and see if we can get an FFE for bionic if it's an easy fix
[22:24] <chegney> does starting multiple ssh sessions not count as logging in?
[22:24] <geirha> if you don't want to log out right now, you can run   ''newgrp sudo''  in a terminal to be able to use sudo in that instance
[22:25] <geirha> connecting with ssh does count as a login, and all processes spawned from there should have the group membership
[22:25] <moises> hi
[22:25] <chegney> it's not working then
[22:25] <chegney> would rebooting the instance help?
[22:26] <chegney> it's a linode instance
[22:26] <oerheks> chegney, did you restart sshd after adding that sudo user?
[22:26] <geirha> rebooting would be overkill
[22:27] <chegney> i did restart sshd once, can't remember if it was after adding that sudo user
[22:27] <chegney> the user is also not using a password for sshd, but using a keyfile instead witha  passphrase
[22:27] <TJ-> chegney: are you ssh-ing into a screen/tmux session?
[22:29] <chegney> TJ-: don't think so
[22:30] <TJ-> chegney: and when you're connected "groups" shows the 'sudo' group listed?
[22:30] <TJ-> chegney: have you been editing /etc/sudoers ?
[22:31] <chegney> no I have not been editing /etc/sudoers
[22:31] <chegney> I viewed it using visudo, but didn't make any changes
[22:31] <TJ-> chegney: is there another user account that does have 'sudo' ?
[22:31] <slingamn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemtap/+bug/1763525
[22:31] <chegney> no, I could try adding another one
[22:32] <TJ-> chegney: you need to reboot to recovery, use the Linode console (lish), then you can get root access to correct things
[22:33] <chegney> how do I do that in linode instance?
[22:33] <TJ-> chegney: and you should check /var/log/auth.log for clues as to what is going wrong
[22:33] <TJ-> chegney: In the manager, look on the 'remote' tab/page, and set yourself up to ssh in using lish
[22:34] <chegney> I'm not running the gui, this is a server for running minecraft
[22:34] <TJ-> slingamn: see "Lish Console" at https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access/
[22:34] <TJ-> chegney: I know that! I'm on about the Linode web admin tool
[22:35] <TJ-> chegney: lish is SSH access to the VM's TTY console, so you can reboot it to recovery and sort things out
[22:38] <TJ-> slingamn: I've assigned the bug to me, I'll look into it tomorrow
[22:38] <slingamn> awesome, thanks
[22:38] <TJ-> chegney: : see "Lish Console" at https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/remote-access/
[22:43] <blackPAnther> wassup beautful ppl
[22:46] <skinux> I'm looking for a good GUI CD ripper that doesn't take an hour or more to rip 9-15 songs
[22:46] <skinux> Must be capable of ripping to MP3 and specify location to save MP3 tracks
[22:46] <RtMF> wg spr
[22:46] <RtMF> oops
[22:50] <xamithan> skinux: k3b or sound juicer takes that long ?