 @ahoneybun valorie @Sick_Rimmit yofel mamarok: If Michael from tuxdigital does us a release video, are we Ok with it being primarilly pubished on his channel? We then link it and add to our playlists?
 Can we cross post it?
 cross post meaning what?
 re-upload?
 Fwd from ahoneybun: Can we cross post it?
 whatever that means ^^^
 Other question: … 2. What day do you want the promo video released? … Why I am asking: … I was thinking that I might make a full video of me on camera talking about Kubuntu 18.04 and my involvement prior to release and then releasing the promo video on Thursday.
 post it on his channel and our's linking back to his.
[17:28] <MichaelTunnell> as long as it isnt posted directly on the Kubuntu channel the rest is fine. If it is added to a playlist then it is great
[17:29] <MichaelTunnell> I made the KDE Promo videos for 5.11 and 5.12 = collectively they received 93,389 views for KDE's channel and TuxDigital received 1,968 views and only 320 clicks from links in video description.
[17:30] <MichaelTunnell> so I was thinking since Kubuntu isn't really trying to build an audience for this kind of thing but I am, so I am asking because it would be more beneficial to me to post it on my channel.
 I have no objections. seems fair enough in return IMO
[17:30] <MichaelTunnell> :thumbup:
 but I would like opinions from here
[17:31] <MichaelTunnell> did the emoji work in Telegram when sending from irc? :)
 @MichaelTunnell, nope. fail
[17:34] <MichaelTunnell> dang it :(
 @acheronuk, On camera? 😱
 @tsimonq2, Will it go out late?
 @acheronuk, Idk :{
 *:)
[17:46] <MichaelTunnell> I dont care if Kubuntu wants to upload the video as well and schedule it to release later as a just in case the people who browse on youtube would find it. So maybe schedule to release it 2 weeks later as that would give my channel enough time to generate the views I'd like to get.
[18:38] <valorie> imo more news is good news!
[18:52] <MichaelTunnell> valorie: what is that in reference to?
[19:00] <valorie> with you doing a video, MichaelTunnell
[19:00] <valorie> <3
[19:01] <MichaelTunnell> well my question is related to Kubuntu not posting it on the Kubuntu channel until after the blogs and such use mine so that I can benefit from the press. Kubuntu would get the same benefit it would already get from the video sharing but I would get YouTube views and such.
[19:07] <valorie> understood
[19:08] <valorie> you get more views than we do
[19:08] <valorie> therefore, we'll get more good promo directly from you than in our own chan
[19:10] <MichaelTunnell> :D
[19:11] <MichaelTunnell> I would also unleash my normal marketing techniques that I wouldn't typically do for content outside of my channel so likely much more :)
[19:13] <valorie> <3
[19:13] <valorie> I'm feeling really good about this release
[19:14] <valorie> a nice presentation of Plasma and the rest of KDE software I hope
[19:14] <MichaelTunnell> I am as well. I have been using Neon since first neon release because Kubuntu 16.04 was well, let's not talk about it . . .  with that said, I am switching back to Kubuntu with 18.04 release. :)
[19:18] <valorie> neon is great too, but yes, kubuntu has my heart
 ditto
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
 started on that :)
[19:21] <valorie> excellent
[19:22] <acheronuk> MichaelTunnell: that also goes into some of the stuff you requested about new features. though it needs more done
[19:22] <valorie> can I add Falkon in there, acheronuk?
[19:23] <valorie> if I can login to the friggin' wiki
[19:23] <acheronuk> add in how? I mention it
[19:24] <valorie> oh, missed it
[19:24] <valorie> ah, under new applicaations, of course
[19:25] <acheronuk> new, but not new. fair enough to go there though
[19:25] <valorie> I guess we can use this for the RC testing
[19:25] <valorie> with a bit of editing
[19:25] <valorie> there is still some "beta" in there
[19:26] <valorie> and the social links have no images
[19:27] <acheronuk> probably. I only made a quick start this morning. it needs much tweaking I'm sure
[19:27] <valorie> looks great already, so good start!
[19:27] <valorie> mparillo: ^^^
[19:29] <acheronuk> should probably mention some of the other default settings changes
[19:30] <acheronuk> e.g. single click, and where to find the setting should people want to change back
[19:32] <valorie> ok, trying to login to fix the little niggles and I'll add something about single click now being default
[19:32] <valorie> uh
[19:32] <valorie> we're we going with double-click as default?
[19:33] <ricktimmis[m]> Hello friends
[19:33] <acheronuk> have ubuntu formally asked us how many years we are prepare to support for the LTS?
[19:33] <acheronuk> hi ricktimmis[m] :)
[19:34] <acheronuk> valorie: duh. I meant double click
[19:35] <ricktimmis[m]> Will we ship Falkon installed as part of the iso image ?
[19:35] <valorie> I hope so!
[19:35] <ricktimmis[m]> Me too
[19:35] <valorie> I assume not the miniman packageset
[19:35] <valorie> minimal
[19:36] <valorie> which by the way went flawlessly for me in one test
[19:36] <ricktimmis[m]> I really like it, been using it daily on 17.10 from clivejo ppa
[19:36] <ricktimmis[m]> Have had no issues
[19:36] <valorie> and is still running for me on my travel lappy
[19:36] <acheronuk> It is not currently. I am concerned somewhat about security updates for webengine on that
[19:36] <valorie> oh, Falkon is my goto
[19:36] <valorie> I don't use anything else now
[19:37] <valorie> for 6 months or so
[19:37] <acheronuk> So am a bit wary of making it on our iso/meta
 @tsimonq2 ^^
[19:37] <valorie> the new one isn't built yet.... and tsimonq2 is not feeling well
[19:38] <valorie> how long are we planning to support this LTS?
[19:38] <acheronuk> remember we will have many point releases of 18.04, and SRUs to do. so maybe Falkon will get updates and can go on
[19:38] <valorie> if we discussed this I don't remember
[19:39] <valorie> acheronuk: I'm not gonna fight you about it!
[19:39] <acheronuk> I just asked that. ubuntu usually email flavours to ask, but I see no email
[19:39] <valorie> you are the guy on the line so it is your call
[19:39] <valorie> does 3 years seem fair?
[19:39] <acheronuk> I would like to see falkon get a few bugfix updates 1st
[19:39] <acheronuk> 3 years seems fair
[19:40] <valorie> we're not in the last week yet so sh&% isn't hitting the fan YET
[19:40] <ricktimmis[m]> I think Falkon makes our products really special, and of course I am excited at the possibility.
[19:40] <valorie> but so far it seems very stable to me
[19:40] <ricktimmis[m]> However, I support and accept advice of deve
[19:40] <valorie> ricktimmis[m]: yup
[19:40] <acheronuk> they have made a great start with it under the kde mantle
[19:41] <valorie> oh, do we have a new kde-connect yet?
[19:41] <acheronuk> we do
[19:41] <valorie> I lost track
[19:41] <valorie> cool
[19:41] <acheronuk> and new krita 4.0.1
[19:41] <acheronuk> and new kstars 2.9.4 with libindi support
[19:41] <ricktimmis[m]> New Krista s brilliant I love it
[19:42] <valorie> um
[19:42] <acheronuk> I'm annoyed about digikam being old, but we can't build newer
[19:42] <valorie> it is OK for us to call this LTS before the .1 release?
[19:42] <valorie> digikam gets so much work!
[19:42] <valorie> they just need to Make Releases
[19:44] <acheronuk> they have been! requiring newer exiv2 than we have in Bionic :(
[19:44] <acheronuk> eviv2 is in main
[19:45] <valorie> ah
[19:45] <valorie> boo
[19:45] <acheronuk> I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/1715931
[19:45] <valorie> ubuntu refuses to upgrade?
[19:46] <acheronuk> but no-one cared until it was too late
 Wait wait wait before making assertions. :P
[19:46] <valorie> I saw that the newer appstream will be included
 I can finish it once I'm feeling better.
[19:53] <mparillo> Yes, I can add back the images for social media. Thanks for noticing well ahead of time.
[19:54] <valorie> I'm editing now so I think it's locked atm
[19:58] <valorie> gosh, I'm going to have to ask nggraham for a list of the changes we've made to default settings
[19:59] <valorie> or is that the only one?
[20:02] <valorie> ok, done editing for now
[20:02] <valorie> I was sure we changed more than one default
[20:03] <valorie> mparillo:
[20:03] <valorie> ^^^
[20:03] <valorie> pfff, more coffee needed
[20:09] <acheronuk> not all changes are likely worthy of a mention
[20:09] <valorie> of course
[20:09] <acheronuk> - hybrid look and feel
[20:09] <acheronuk> - double click
[20:09] <valorie> I'll start working on an announcement for the website
[20:10] <acheronuk> - sddm login and locker background
[20:10] <acheronuk> - wallpapers
[20:10] <valorie> oh right!
[20:10]  * valorie sips more coffee
[20:11] <acheronuk> those are the most immediately visible
[20:13] <acheronuk> - baloo indexing- might be worth mentioning that, and how to turn full content indexing back on
[20:48] <mparillo> As far as full-text indexing, I think showing how to turn it on (to the old / upstream) default is important, but more important is why to turn it on. I see 10 articles about turning it off for every one about turning it on.
[21:02] <valorie> I don't know enough about this
[21:02] <valorie> I don't even know if mine is turned on or off
[21:03] <valorie> although search in dolphin isn't working, so perhaps it is off
[21:03] <valorie> which: boo
[21:03] <valorie> I've not had trouble with baloo for *years*
 Had some hot tea and some cold medicine. Should be somewhat better later.
[21:06] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
 Thanks. <3
 who poked Adam? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004407.html
 I bet on @tsimonq2
[21:30] <acheronuk> so ack on 3 years from me
 @acheronuk, Long standing TB item that I did in fact poke about.
[23:29] <valorie> ok, have written drafts for release candidate testing and release
[23:30] <valorie> please fix when you have a chance.
[23:49] <MichaelTunnell> I dont think KDE Falkon has had enough time for the transition to be included and supported in an LTS by default
[23:51] <MichaelTunnell> I suppose having both KDE Falkon and Firefox would be fine but might be excessive?
[23:52] <MichaelTunnell> has Kubuntu considered doing something like Ubuntu MATE's Welcome where you could give extra install options for KDE Falkon for example