[17:15] @ahoneybun valorie @Sick_Rimmit yofel mamarok: If Michael from tuxdigital does us a release video, are we Ok with it being primarilly pubished on his channel? We then link it and add to our playlists? [17:16] Can we cross post it? [17:16] cross post meaning what? [17:16] re-upload? [17:21] Fwd from ahoneybun: Can we cross post it? [17:21] whatever that means ^^^ [17:26] Other question: … 2. What day do you want the promo video released? … Why I am asking: … I was thinking that I might make a full video of me on camera talking about Kubuntu 18.04 and my involvement prior to release and then releasing the promo video on Thursday. [17:27] post it on his channel and our's linking back to his. [17:28] as long as it isnt posted directly on the Kubuntu channel the rest is fine. If it is added to a playlist then it is great [17:29] I made the KDE Promo videos for 5.11 and 5.12 = collectively they received 93,389 views for KDE's channel and TuxDigital received 1,968 views and only 320 clicks from links in video description. [17:30] so I was thinking since Kubuntu isn't really trying to build an audience for this kind of thing but I am, so I am asking because it would be more beneficial to me to post it on my channel. [17:30] I have no objections. seems fair enough in return IMO [17:30] :thumbup: [17:31] but I would like opinions from here [17:31] did the emoji work in Telegram when sending from irc? :) [17:31] @MichaelTunnell, nope. fail [17:34] dang it :( [17:35] @acheronuk, On camera? 😱 [17:37] @tsimonq2, Will it go out late? [17:45] @acheronuk, Idk :{ [17:45] *:) [17:46] I dont care if Kubuntu wants to upload the video as well and schedule it to release later as a just in case the people who browse on youtube would find it. So maybe schedule to release it 2 weeks later as that would give my channel enough time to generate the views I'd like to get. [18:38] imo more news is good news! [18:52] valorie: what is that in reference to? [19:00] with you doing a video, MichaelTunnell [19:00] <3 [19:01] well my question is related to Kubuntu not posting it on the Kubuntu channel until after the blogs and such use mine so that I can benefit from the press. Kubuntu would get the same benefit it would already get from the video sharing but I would get YouTube views and such. [19:07] understood [19:08] you get more views than we do [19:08] therefore, we'll get more good promo directly from you than in our own chan [19:10] :D [19:11] I would also unleash my normal marketing techniques that I wouldn't typically do for content outside of my channel so likely much more :) [19:13] <3 [19:13] I'm feeling really good about this release [19:14] a nice presentation of Plasma and the rest of KDE software I hope [19:14] I am as well. I have been using Neon since first neon release because Kubuntu 16.04 was well, let's not talk about it . . . with that said, I am switching back to Kubuntu with 18.04 release. :) [19:18] neon is great too, but yes, kubuntu has my heart [19:20] ditto [19:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu [19:20] started on that :) [19:21] excellent [19:22] MichaelTunnell: that also goes into some of the stuff you requested about new features. though it needs more done [19:22] can I add Falkon in there, acheronuk? [19:23] if I can login to the friggin' wiki [19:23] add in how? I mention it [19:24] oh, missed it [19:24] ah, under new applicaations, of course [19:25] new, but not new. fair enough to go there though [19:25] I guess we can use this for the RC testing [19:25] with a bit of editing [19:25] there is still some "beta" in there [19:26] and the social links have no images [19:27] probably. I only made a quick start this morning. it needs much tweaking I'm sure [19:27] looks great already, so good start! [19:27] mparillo: ^^^ [19:29] should probably mention some of the other default settings changes [19:30] e.g. single click, and where to find the setting should people want to change back [19:32] ok, trying to login to fix the little niggles and I'll add something about single click now being default [19:32] uh [19:32] we're we going with double-click as default? [19:33] Hello friends [19:33] have ubuntu formally asked us how many years we are prepare to support for the LTS? [19:33] hi ricktimmis[m] :) [19:34] valorie: duh. I meant double click [19:35] Will we ship Falkon installed as part of the iso image ? [19:35] I hope so! [19:35] Me too [19:35] I assume not the miniman packageset [19:35] minimal [19:36] which by the way went flawlessly for me in one test [19:36] I really like it, been using it daily on 17.10 from clivejo ppa [19:36] Have had no issues [19:36] and is still running for me on my travel lappy [19:36] It is not currently. I am concerned somewhat about security updates for webengine on that [19:36] oh, Falkon is my goto [19:36] I don't use anything else now [19:37] for 6 months or so [19:37] So am a bit wary of making it on our iso/meta [19:37] @tsimonq2 ^^ [19:37] the new one isn't built yet.... and tsimonq2 is not feeling well [19:38] how long are we planning to support this LTS? [19:38] remember we will have many point releases of 18.04, and SRUs to do. so maybe Falkon will get updates and can go on [19:38] if we discussed this I don't remember [19:39] acheronuk: I'm not gonna fight you about it! [19:39] I just asked that. ubuntu usually email flavours to ask, but I see no email [19:39] you are the guy on the line so it is your call [19:39] does 3 years seem fair? [19:39] I would like to see falkon get a few bugfix updates 1st [19:39] 3 years seems fair [19:40] we're not in the last week yet so sh&% isn't hitting the fan YET [19:40] I think Falkon makes our products really special, and of course I am excited at the possibility. [19:40] but so far it seems very stable to me [19:40] However, I support and accept advice of deve [19:40] ricktimmis[m]: yup [19:40] they have made a great start with it under the kde mantle [19:41] oh, do we have a new kde-connect yet? [19:41] we do [19:41] I lost track [19:41] cool [19:41] and new krita 4.0.1 [19:41] and new kstars 2.9.4 with libindi support [19:41] New Krista s brilliant I love it [19:42] um [19:42] I'm annoyed about digikam being old, but we can't build newer [19:42] it is OK for us to call this LTS before the .1 release? [19:42] digikam gets so much work! [19:42] they just need to Make Releases [19:44] they have been! requiring newer exiv2 than we have in Bionic :( [19:44] eviv2 is in main [19:45] ah [19:45] boo [19:45] I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/1715931 [19:45] ubuntu refuses to upgrade? [19:46] but no-one cared until it was too late [19:46] Wait wait wait before making assertions. :P [19:46] I saw that the newer appstream will be included [19:49] I can finish it once I'm feeling better. [19:53] Yes, I can add back the images for social media. Thanks for noticing well ahead of time. [19:54] I'm editing now so I think it's locked atm [19:58] gosh, I'm going to have to ask nggraham for a list of the changes we've made to default settings [19:59] or is that the only one? [20:02] ok, done editing for now [20:02] I was sure we changed more than one default [20:03] mparillo: [20:03] ^^^ [20:03] pfff, more coffee needed [20:09] not all changes are likely worthy of a mention [20:09] of course [20:09] - hybrid look and feel [20:09] - double click [20:09] I'll start working on an announcement for the website [20:10] - sddm login and locker background [20:10] - wallpapers [20:10] oh right! [20:10] * valorie sips more coffee [20:11] those are the most immediately visible [20:13] - baloo indexing- might be worth mentioning that, and how to turn full content indexing back on [20:48] As far as full-text indexing, I think showing how to turn it on (to the old / upstream) default is important, but more important is why to turn it on. I see 10 articles about turning it off for every one about turning it on. [21:02] I don't know enough about this [21:02] I don't even know if mine is turned on or off [21:03] although search in dolphin isn't working, so perhaps it is off [21:03] which: boo [21:03] I've not had trouble with baloo for *years* [21:04] * tsimonq2 naps [21:04] Had some hot tea and some cold medicine. Should be somewhat better later. [21:06] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [21:08] Thanks. <3 [21:28] who poked Adam? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-April/004407.html [21:28] I bet on @tsimonq2 [21:30] so ack on 3 years from me [21:32] @acheronuk, Long standing TB item that I did in fact poke about. [21:32] * tsimonq2 goes back to sleep [23:29] ok, have written drafts for release candidate testing and release [23:30] please fix when you have a chance. [23:49] I dont think KDE Falkon has had enough time for the transition to be included and supported in an LTS by default [23:51] I suppose having both KDE Falkon and Firefox would be fine but might be excessive? [23:52] has Kubuntu considered doing something like Ubuntu MATE's Welcome where you could give extra install options for KDE Falkon for example