[00:00] @coolhacker_1, if you need help, it is important to be specific about your issue. Btw there is a halium group where you can find help with the porting [00:01] Ok, thanx [01:15] :q [02:13] es_ist_mir_egal was added by: es_ist_mir_egal [03:33] masoodimran was added by: masoodimran [03:36] Hello....can this be installed on a Samsung tab? [03:44] no need to answer this....got to know that it is not supported.....😔 [06:50] costales was added by: costales [06:50] OK, guys, I've made a pull request for Bulgarian keyboard layout. [06:51] Good morning. Is this yet a groups for development questions? 🙃 [06:51] [Edit] Good morning. Could I ask development questions here? 🙃 [06:54] [Edit] Good morning. Is this the current status for reading ambient light in UT? … https://askubuntu.com/a/593151 [07:09] R K was added by: R K [07:09] Hello friend [07:14] Selecting device manual is not working. [07:20] marc was added by: marc [07:24] @es_ist_mir_egal, @masoodimran , @costales Welcome Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available. [07:25] hi everyone, trying to install ubuntu touch through the UBports Installer, but get stuck in bootloader screen. UBports seems not to detect my phone in bootloader mode. I enabled usb debugging and couldn't find the EOM parameters. Any lead ? [07:25] @R K, marc Welcome try https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, [07:26] Any other way to install Ubuntu touch [07:26] @marc, New commers room on welcome page, they will help [08:24] @marc, A newly discovered problem is that you should connect the phone only *after* the installer has started [08:24] @milkor73 This advice we should also relay to all Welcome Room hosts ;) [08:30] @costales, Oh, Costales is in the house! \o/ [08:46] @costales, Finally! A very warm welcome :) [09:15] Q was added by: Q [09:25] @Q, Hi Q, welcome. Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed [09:42] GLADOS was added by: GLADOS [09:43] Hello, can s.o. please help me on a probably very basic question. I'm trying to build my first app - just one of those apps which opens up the browser an brings you to a website. I found I followed bhdouglass instructions, but at a certain point this is what I get: Copied files to temp directory for click building … standard_init_lin [09:43] ux.go:178: exec user process caused "exec format error" … Command '['docker', 'run', '-v', '/home/clacri/Meine_App:/home/clacri/Meine_App', '-w', '/home/clacri/Meine_App/build', '-u', '1000', '--rm', '-i', 'clickable/ubuntu-sdk:15.04-armhf', 'bash', '-c', 'click build /home/clacri/Meine_App/build/tmp —no-validate']' returned non-zero exit status 1 [09:44] [Edit] Hello, can s.o. please help me on a probably very basic question. I'm trying to build my first app - just one of those apps which opens up the browser an brings you to a website. I found and followed bhdouglass instructions, but at a certain point this is what I get: Copied files to temp directory for click building … standard [09:44] _init_linux.go:178: exec user process caused "exec format error" … Command '['docker', 'run', '-v', '/home/clacri/Meine_App:/home/clacri/Meine_App', '-w', '/home/clacri/Meine_App/build', '-u', '1000', '--rm', '-i', 'clickable/ubuntu-sdk:15.04-armhf', 'bash', '-c', 'click build /home/clacri/Meine_App/build/tmp —no-validate']' returned non-zero exit [09:44] status 1 [09:46] @C_Chat, You may want to join OpeStore group and or You can use the web app creator app [09:46] @C_Chat, [Edit] You may want to join also OpeStore group and or You can use the web app creator app [09:47] https://open-store.io/telegram [09:51] ok. thank you! [10:03] @GLADOS, Welcome GLADOS !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available. [10:05] Welcome @es_ist_mir_egal !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [10:16] @advocatux, Great, i did not realize, there were so many new , @costales my appologize and one more time Welcome and many thx for uNav. Gracias Muchas Gracias [10:17] @Flohack, OK , thx we will forward with @advocatux and @Stereofont [10:40] @es_ist_mir_egal, funny user name 😉 [10:47] Well, I don#t care about your user name 😜 [10:47] [Edit] Well, I don't care about your user name 😜 [10:53] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/XjSumWYO.mp4 [10:57] Do not forget to start preparing your questions for our UBports team, today may be Ubuntu Touch Q&A [11:47] @IGNNE, My heart throbs to the rhythm of your username [12:27] @R K, You should also join the Welcome room [12:40] also make sure you have `fastboot` and `adb` installed [12:41] can u update ut from it terminal app using apt update or upgrade [12:41] no [12:41] dang [12:42] so how does the update system work exactley do u have to connect it to ur pc or is it ota [12:42] ota [12:42] okay cool thnx [12:43] unless you don't have network on the device, then you'd have to flash it again to get new version [12:59] Pedr21 was added by: Pedr21 [13:12] @C_Chat, Hi. That's great! I Just started myself and built 3 this past week. The Webapp creator app was a great place to start. Then I studied the code it generated and modified it based on the guide that you'll find on the UBports site. Eventually I'd like to build a native app. [13:16] @aribk, Thank You very much for this advice. I'm actually have contact with some nice persons who will probably help me with it - after that I will have a look at the UBPorts site for sure. [13:18] Josele13 was added by: Josele13 [13:18] Welcome Josele13 and @Pedr21 !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available. [14:02] Setup for building native apps for Ubuntu Touch: I'm looking for recommendations. Can't really get any heads or tails out of the info on the UBports site. Looks like QML/C++ is the way to go, but I was wondering if QML/Java might also be a possibility? And then I'd like to know how to set up my build environment? Suggestions? Other gr [14:02] oups where these questions should be directed? [14:06] Java is not really a possibility, but you can also use QML/java script or QML/golang. You can use most editors for creating Ubuntu Touch apps, and clickable for building the app. Clickable also has some nice templates to start with. There is also a clickable plugin for the Atom editor. [14:08] I've had enough of Java through the years, Qt is better for embedded development, because it scales better over there [14:16] Especially when mixed with javascript...😜 [14:18] QML isn't that bad........ if your code isn't crap [14:20] @aribk, You find a full programming course on the forums [14:24] Yep, this is the direct link to @mimecar course https://legacy.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details [14:25] @aribk , there's a virtual machine with all the tools already configured [14:32] @aribk, You might also want to join https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN [14:38] At is a piece of cake for an experienced java developer. You need just some basic knowledge of C++ concepts. ;) [14:38] @jsalatas, * Qt (not At) [14:56] Zoran Aleksic was added by: Zoran Aleksic [14:58] @Zoran Aleksic, Welcome, Zoran. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started [15:05] (Photo, 496x1036) https://irc.ubports.com/SB0Ke8n2.png Can I install Ubuntu Touch on this phone? [15:06] no [15:06] that's the 4G version [15:06] only E5 HD (3G) is supported [15:10] just that, one model [15:11] Not just one model, he means only one version of that model is able to run UT [15:12] This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices [15:14] so whether it supports a 32 bit system [15:15] No, each model must have a specific port. You cannot install on an unsupported device [15:16] OK thank you [15:17] 13/5000 … I am disappointed [15:18] What? [15:18] so I ordered the wrong phone [15:21] I searched for the bq aqvaris e5 phone, without the system .. figuring it was that .. Ubuntu mobile [15:26] give it, that means this is good [15:26] (Photo, 1072x484) https://irc.ubports.com/1jfd0RsQ.png give it, that means this is good [15:27] Possibly, possibly not. Honestly you'll have the best luck with one of the "Core devices": Nexus 5, Oneplus One, Fairphone 2 [15:31] hey i wanted to ask if 16.04 was available for ubuntu touch and ready to flash to our phones [15:31] It's available, but I wouldn't use it if you need your phone every day [15:32] ok, my Nexus 5 is my secondary phone and i'm ok with it being unstable [15:32] Thanks to all of you who responded to my question about development environment and programming languages for building apps! I'll check out the forums and head over to the developer group in a little while. Thanks again! [15:33] how do i go about getting 16.04? [15:33] It's an option in the UBports installer. Just select your options after your device is detected [15:34] ok, cool. i'll look for that when i reflash my phone [15:34] thanks! [15:35] Anytime [15:36] Zoran, E5 and E5 HD have the same hardware, more or less, but E5 4G is very different [15:41] E5 4G use Qlcomm [15:41] E5 3G is Mediatem [15:48] Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez was added by: Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez [15:49] means ub port will not recognize it [15:49] Hello … Ubuntu touch has a shell? [15:50] Do you mean a terminal? [15:50] Every linux-based OS has one, some just make it very hard to get to it [15:51] In Ubuntu Touch its very easy ;) [15:51] Yes terminal [15:53] Yes just click on the black app called Terminal [15:53] I tell them about mistakes to avoid [15:53] @Flohack, Depends on your goal with it [15:54] outside of using ubuntu sdk for app development, what else can you use? [15:54] alias SU='sudo cat /etc/sudoers | sed 's\root\#root\g'>/etc/sudoers' [15:54] In sudo su [15:54] Sudo -i [15:54] And visudo [15:55] @metalbiker, emacs [15:56] metalbiker, you can in theory run any qml app that we have libraries installed for [15:56] block those aliases [15:56] And you can develop with any text editor you want. Clickable has app templates for you as well. [15:57] oh sweet!! so i can use my text editor and python for the language? [15:57] And you can ask for help from the guy who hacked the tesla [15:58] The car [15:58] is emacs an SDK? and where do i get that? [15:59] so if wanted to use an app for, say, CVS, which is a pharmacy, i could use it on touch as long as it was made using qml? [16:00] https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html [16:00] there are very obvious vulnerabilities [16:01] how do i get clickable? [16:01] http://clickable.bhdouglass.com/en/latest/ [16:01] Oops [16:01] advocatux: cool! thanks! [16:02] You're welcome [16:02] See the other link as well [16:02] look for the tools they use to make the antivirus, is the first thing that is used to make a demon [16:02] for app development [16:03] Repeating the user in the password. catastrophic error [16:04] :3 [16:05] @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but please try to stay on topic, and preferably one at a time [16:06] @metalbiker, A QT app would work, or a webapp [16:06] I talk about vulnerabilities that can be avoided. [16:07] dohbee: so i could use qt creator to make an app as well? [16:07] I try to help, by stopping people there is no progress. [16:08] What vulnerabilities? [16:09] @metalbiker, The old ubuntu-sdk-ide is built on top of qtcreator, yes [16:10] i had ubuntu sdk ide installed at one point and i need to go through that again. [16:12] @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, What vulnerabilities in Ubuntu Touch are you talking about? UT is pretty secure, as apps are confined and such, but it's also fully open so anyone can do anything they want with their own phone. Please don't just randomly post security advice with no context. [16:13] Ok [16:15] @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, This doesn't really do anything to prevent attacks. It simply changes the config so that root would have to enter a password to run sudo, but since one would already be root at that point, they could just as easily change the sudoers file back, and sudo would work again without a password for root. [16:16] metalbiker I posted this link a couple hours ago https://legacy.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details [16:16] it has a VM with a SDK fully configured [16:17] Ok ok thancks [16:18] LJHamburger was added by: LJHamburger [16:20] To add, pretty sure that's a Useless Use of cat. Unless it's for idiomatic reasons. I'll stop now [16:22] @UniversalSuperBox, Yes. sed -i would be better, and putting that in an alias is weird, and an alias that's capital letters is also weird [16:22] but anyway [16:22] Can I'm use sources from port SailfishOS on my 4X for porting Ubuntu Touch? [16:24] is the q&a today? [16:24] Yep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18WEV_JwIzg [16:25] 🤔 [16:26] Kkkk yes, SU. Sorry [16:27] @coolhacker_1, kinda [16:28] there are similar things in architecture, but you need to base on Halium and get ready to face issues different from theirs [16:29] https://github.com/bitrvmpd/sailfish-santoni/blob/master/README.md … Below i have kernel sources, device tree and vendor tree [16:30] > The Halium Community. … 🤔 [16:34] @coolhacker_1 that guy is already porting santoni to halium https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/65 [16:36] Thanx [16:38] 👍 [17:55] Welcome @LJHamburger !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available. [17:57] Dear All! Todays Q&A Community Update etc. will begin in 1 hour (we are still in winter time it seems 😆): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18WEV_JwIzg [18:01] oh, not now? [18:01] It is 18:01 UTC. The Q&A is at 1900 UTC [18:01] This is why I have stopped using local times. :P [18:05] use zulu time [18:06] Hmm, hope I can still do my grocery shop tonight then :P === Piece_Maker is now known as Acou_Bass [19:00] Live now? [19:00] 'waiting for' [19:00] Wait for it … [19:01] Oddly the time displayed below "Waiting for UBports" is nine minutes off for me. [19:01] Maybe not quite 'live'? [19:02] Give us some seconds [19:02] Technical [19:02] No problem. [19:02] after the count down that clock stopped working properly [19:04] It's alive! [19:04] IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE!!!!!1! [19:05] HAHAHAHAHA [19:05] 🎉 [19:05] (evil laugh) [19:05] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/JBO3PC0n.webp [19:06] @Flohack isn't going to Ubucon Europe 😩 [19:07] Does @mariogrip have a XPS13 today? [19:08] Sorry to hear that @mariogrip [19:08] all the best to your family member @mariogrip [19:08] @mariogrip best of luck to you and your family!! [19:09] hello! [19:10] Hi [19:11] @neothethird is a sex machine, that's why/ [19:11] *why. [19:13] ubucon needs some letsencrypt magic [19:14] "What did you do recently?" "Oh you know, I just fixed Unity" [19:14] @PhoenixLandPirate, 😂😂😂 [19:14] "I fixed the Fairphone" [19:15] and you can actually do full screen in xwayland i think [19:15] remember that one ;) [19:15] this requires another song [19:19] this is @mariogrip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIz0q8aWpA [19:21] hahaha [19:21] they were searching for the holy grail on internet in norway [19:23] @Flohack sounds like someone needs to just fix weblate [19:24] My question for tonight, as ever perhaps, goes to the team and my man @DanChapman : [19:25] How is progress going with a method of launching Libertine apps on devel 16.04? [19:25] @dohbee, 😂😂 [19:25]