 @coolhacker_1, if you need help, it is important to be specific about your issue. Btw there is a halium group where you can find help with the porting
 Ok, thanx
[01:15] <slidinghorn> :q
[02:13] <ubptgbot> es_ist_mir_egal was added by: es_ist_mir_egal
[03:33] <ubptgbot> masoodimran was added by: masoodimran
 Hello....can this be installed on a Samsung tab?
 no need to answer this....got to know that it is not supported.....😔
[06:50] <ubptgbot> costales was added by: costales
 OK, guys, I've made a pull request for Bulgarian keyboard layout.
 Good morning. Is this yet a groups for development questions?  🙃
 [Edit] Good morning. Could I ask development questions here?  🙃
 [Edit] Good morning. Is this the current status for reading ambient light in UT? … https://askubuntu.com/a/593151
[07:09] <ubptgbot> R K was added by: R K
[07:09] <ubptgbot> <R K> Hello friend
[07:14] <ubptgbot> <R K> Selecting device manual is not working.
[07:20] <ubptgbot> marc was added by: marc
 @es_ist_mir_egal, @masoodimran , @costales Welcome Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 hi everyone, trying to install ubuntu touch through the UBports Installer, but get stuck in bootloader screen. UBports seems not to detect my phone in bootloader mode. I enabled usb debugging and couldn't find the EOM parameters. Any lead ?
 @R K, marc Welcome try https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started,
[07:26] <ubptgbot> <R K> Any other way to install Ubuntu touch
 @marc, New commers room on welcome page, they will help
 @marc, A newly discovered problem is that you should connect the phone only *after* the installer has started
 @milkor73 This advice we should also relay to all Welcome Room hosts ;)
 @costales, Oh, Costales is in the house! \o/
 @costales, Finally! A very warm welcome :)
[09:15] <ubptgbot> Q was added by: Q
 @Q, Hi Q, welcome. Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[09:42] <ubptgbot> GLADOS was added by: GLADOS
 Hello, can s.o. please help me on a probably very basic question. I'm trying to build my first app - just one of those apps which opens up the browser an brings you to a website. I found I followed bhdouglass instructions, but at a certain point this is what I get: Copied files to temp directory for click building … standard_init_lin
[09:43] <ubptgbot> ux.go:178: exec user process caused "exec format error" … Command '['docker', 'run', '-v', '/home/clacri/Meine_App:/home/clacri/Meine_App', '-w', '/home/clacri/Meine_App/build', '-u', '1000', '--rm', '-i', 'clickable/ubuntu-sdk:15.04-armhf', 'bash', '-c', 'click build /home/clacri/Meine_App/build/tmp —no-validate']' returned non-zero exit status 1
 [Edit] Hello, can s.o. please help me on a probably very basic question. I'm trying to build my first app - just one of those apps which opens up the browser an brings you to a website. I found and followed bhdouglass instructions, but at a certain point this is what I get: Copied files to temp directory for click building … standard
[09:44] <ubptgbot> _init_linux.go:178: exec user process caused "exec format error" … Command '['docker', 'run', '-v', '/home/clacri/Meine_App:/home/clacri/Meine_App', '-w', '/home/clacri/Meine_App/build', '-u', '1000', '--rm', '-i', 'clickable/ubuntu-sdk:15.04-armhf', 'bash', '-c', 'click build /home/clacri/Meine_App/build/tmp —no-validate']' returned non-zero exit
[09:44] <ubptgbot> status 1
 @C_Chat, You may want to join OpeStore group and or You can use the web app creator app
 @C_Chat, [Edit] You may want to join also OpeStore group and or You can use the web app creator app
 https://open-store.io/telegram
 ok. thank you!
 @GLADOS, Welcome GLADOS  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 Welcome @es_ist_mir_egal !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @advocatux, Great, i did not realize, there were so many new , @costales my appologize and one more time Welcome and many thx for uNav. Gracias Muchas Gracias
 @Flohack, OK , thx we will forward with @advocatux and @Stereofont
 @es_ist_mir_egal, funny user name 😉
 Well, I don#t care about your user name 😜
 [Edit] Well, I don't care about your user name 😜
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/XjSumWYO.mp4
 Do not forget to start preparing your questions for our UBports team, today may be Ubuntu Touch Q&A
 @IGNNE, My heart throbs to the rhythm of your username
 @R K, You should also join the Welcome room
 also make sure you have `fastboot` and `adb` installed
[12:41] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> can u update ut from it terminal app using apt update or upgrade
 no
[12:41] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> dang
[12:42] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> so how does the update system work exactley do u have to connect it to ur pc or is it ota
 ota
[12:42] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> okay cool thnx
 unless you don't have network on the device, then you'd have to flash it again to get new version
[12:59] <ubptgbot> Pedr21 was added by: Pedr21
 @C_Chat, Hi. That's great! I Just started myself and built 3 this past week. The Webapp creator app was a great place to start. Then I studied the code it generated and modified it based on the guide that you'll find on the UBports site. Eventually I'd like to build a native app.
 @aribk, Thank You very much for this advice. I'm actually have contact with some nice persons who will probably help me with it - after that I will have a look at the UBPorts site for sure.
[13:18] <ubptgbot> Josele13 was added by: Josele13
 Welcome Josele13 and @Pedr21 !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 Setup for building native apps for Ubuntu Touch: I'm looking for recommendations. Can't really get any heads or tails out of the info on the UBports site. Looks like QML/C++ is the way to go, but I was wondering if QML/Java might also be a possibility? And then I'd like to know how to set up my build environment? Suggestions? Other gr
[14:02] <ubptgbot> oups where these questions should be directed?
 Java is not really a possibility, but you can also use QML/java script or QML/golang. You can use most editors for creating Ubuntu Touch apps, and clickable for building the app. Clickable also has some nice templates to start with. There is also a clickable plugin for the Atom editor.
 I've had enough of Java through the years, Qt is better for embedded development, because it scales better over there
 Especially when mixed with javascript...😜
 QML isn't that bad........ if your code isn't crap
 @aribk, You find a full programming course on the forums
 Yep, this is the direct link to @mimecar course https://legacy.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details
 @aribk , there's a virtual machine with all the tools already configured
 @aribk, You might also want to join https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEN
 At is a piece of cake for an experienced java developer. You need just some basic knowledge of C++ concepts.  ;)
 @jsalatas, * Qt (not At)
[14:56] <ubptgbot> Zoran Aleksic was added by: Zoran Aleksic
 @Zoran Aleksic, Welcome, Zoran. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[15:05] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> (Photo, 496x1036) https://irc.ubports.com/SB0Ke8n2.png Can I install Ubuntu Touch on this phone?
 no
 that's the 4G version
 only E5 HD (3G) is supported
[15:10] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> just that, one model
 Not just one model, he means only one version of that model is able to run UT
 This is the list of supported devices http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
[15:14] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> so whether it supports a 32 bit system
 No, each model must have a specific port. You cannot install on an unsupported device
[15:16] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> OK thank you
[15:17] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> 13/5000 … I am disappointed
 What?
[15:18] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> so I ordered the wrong phone
[15:21] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> I searched for the bq aqvaris e5 phone, without the system .. figuring it was that .. Ubuntu mobile
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> give it, that means this is good
[15:26] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> (Photo, 1072x484) https://irc.ubports.com/1jfd0RsQ.png give it, that means this is good
 Possibly, possibly not. Honestly you'll have the best luck with one of the "Core devices": Nexus 5, Oneplus One, Fairphone 2
[15:31] <metalbiker> hey i wanted to ask if 16.04 was available for ubuntu touch and ready to flash to our phones
 It's available, but I wouldn't use it if you need your phone every day
[15:32] <metalbiker> ok, my Nexus 5 is my secondary phone and i'm ok with it being unstable
 Thanks to all of you who responded to my question about development environment and programming languages for building apps! I'll check out the forums and head over to the developer group in a little while. Thanks again!
[15:33] <metalbiker> how do i go about getting 16.04?
 It's an option in the UBports installer. Just select your options after your device is detected
[15:34] <metalbiker> ok, cool. i'll look for that when i reflash my phone
[15:34] <metalbiker> thanks!
 Anytime
 Zoran, E5 and E5 HD have the same hardware, more or less, but E5 4G is very different
 E5 4G use Qlcomm
 E5 3G is Mediatem
[15:48] <ubptgbot> Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez was added by: Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <Zoran Aleksic> means ub port will not recognize it
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Hello … Ubuntu touch has a shell?
 Do you mean a terminal?
 Every linux-based OS has one, some just make it very hard to get to it
 In Ubuntu Touch its very easy ;)
[15:51] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Yes terminal
 Yes just click on the black app called Terminal
[15:53] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> I tell them about mistakes to avoid
 @Flohack, Depends on your goal with it
[15:54] <metalbiker> outside of using ubuntu sdk for app development, what else can you use?
[15:54] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> alias SU='sudo cat /etc/sudoers | sed 's\root\#root\g'>/etc/sudoers'
[15:54] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> In sudo su
[15:54] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Sudo -i
[15:54] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> And visudo
 @metalbiker, emacs
 metalbiker, you can in theory run any qml app that we have libraries installed for
[15:56] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> block those aliases
 And you can develop with any text editor you want. Clickable has app templates for you as well.
[15:57] <metalbiker> oh sweet!! so i can use my text editor and python for the language?
[15:57] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> And you can ask for help from the guy who hacked the tesla
[15:58] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> The car
[15:58] <metalbiker> is emacs an SDK? and where do i get that?
[15:59] <metalbiker> so if wanted to use an app for, say, CVS, which is a pharmacy, i could use it on touch as long as it was made using qml?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> there are very obvious vulnerabilities
[16:01] <metalbiker> how do i get clickable?
 http://clickable.bhdouglass.com/en/latest/
 Oops
[16:01] <metalbiker> advocatux: cool! thanks!
 You're welcome
 See the other link as well
[16:02] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> look for the tools they use to make the antivirus, is the first thing that is used to make a demon
 for app development
[16:03] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Repeating the user in the password. catastrophic error
[16:04] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> :3
 @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, I'm not sure what you're talking about, but please try to stay on topic, and preferably one at a time
 @metalbiker, A QT app would work, or a webapp
[16:06] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> I talk about vulnerabilities that can be avoided.
[16:07] <metalbiker> dohbee: so i could use qt creator to make an app as well?
[16:07] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> I try to help, by stopping people there is no progress.
 What vulnerabilities?
 @metalbiker, The old ubuntu-sdk-ide is built on top of qtcreator, yes
[16:10] <metalbiker> i had ubuntu sdk ide installed at one point and i need to go through that again.
 @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, What vulnerabilities in Ubuntu Touch are you talking about? UT is pretty secure, as apps are confined and such, but it's also fully open so anyone can do anything they want with their own phone. Please don't just randomly post security advice with no context.
[16:13] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Ok
 @Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez, This doesn't really do anything to prevent attacks. It simply changes the config so that root would have to enter a password to run sudo, but since one would already be root at that point, they could just as easily change the sudoers file back, and sudo would work again without a password for root.
 metalbiker I posted this link a couple hours ago https://legacy.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details
 it has a VM with a SDK fully configured
[16:17] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Ok ok thancks
[16:18] <ubptgbot> LJHamburger was added by: LJHamburger
 To add, pretty sure that's a Useless Use of cat. Unless it's for idiomatic reasons. I'll stop now
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yes. sed -i would be better, and putting that in an alias is weird, and an alias that's capital letters is also weird
 but anyway
 Can I'm use sources from port SailfishOS on my 4X for porting Ubuntu Touch?
 is the q&a today?
 Yep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18WEV_JwIzg
 🤔
[16:26] <ubptgbot> <Edgar Misaél Cano Dominguez> Kkkk yes, SU. Sorry
 @coolhacker_1, kinda
 there are similar things in architecture, but you need to base on Halium and get ready to face issues different from theirs
 https://github.com/bitrvmpd/sailfish-santoni/blob/master/README.md … Below i have kernel sources, device tree and vendor tree
 > The Halium Community. … 🤔
 @coolhacker_1 that guy is already porting santoni to halium https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/65
 Thanx
 👍
 Welcome @LJHamburger !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 Dear All! Todays Q&A Community Update etc. will begin in 1 hour (we are still in winter time it seems 😆): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18WEV_JwIzg
 oh, not now?
 It is 18:01 UTC. The Q&A is at 1900 UTC
 This is why I have stopped using local times. :P
 use zulu time
 Hmm, hope I can still do my grocery shop tonight then :P
 Live now?
 'waiting for'
 Wait for it …
 Oddly the time displayed below "Waiting for UBports" is nine minutes off for me.
 Maybe not quite 'live'?
 Give us some seconds
 Technical
 No problem.
 after the count down that clock stopped working properly
 It's alive!
 IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE!!!!!1!
 HAHAHAHAHA
 🎉
 (evil laugh)
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/JBO3PC0n.webp
 @Flohack isn't going to Ubucon Europe 😩
 Does @mariogrip have a XPS13 today?
 Sorry to hear that @mariogrip
 all the best to your family member @mariogrip
 @mariogrip best of luck to you and your family!!
[19:09] <melodie> hello!
 Hi
 @neothethird is a sex machine, that's why/
 *why.
 ubucon needs some letsencrypt magic
 "What did you do recently?" "Oh you know, I just fixed Unity"
 @PhoenixLandPirate, 😂😂😂
 "I fixed the Fairphone"
 and you can actually do full screen in xwayland i think
 remember that one ;)
 this requires another song
 this is @mariogrip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlIz0q8aWpA
 hahaha
 they were searching for the holy grail on internet in norway
 @Flohack sounds like someone needs to just fix weblate
 My question for tonight, as ever perhaps, goes to the team and my man @DanChapman :
 How is progress going with a method of launching Libertine apps on devel 16.04?
 @dohbee, 😂😂
 @TartanSpartan, isn't the app drawer on there?
 No it still looks like the scope interface in 15.04.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/NDRawllV.webp
 @TartanSpartan, If you tap the orange ubuntu logo button on launcher?
 Stickers!!!
 I'm going to hoard stickers
 @TartanSpartan, Recorded ;)
 Yes that's right. Should the app drawer be accessible?
 Recorded? As in on Github?
 oh, i thought it was there. i guess not
 @TartanSpartan, No as in "I put it into the show notes shared doc" 😆
 Ah to both of you.
 :)
 Note that the ubuntu-app-launch method doesn't work, either.
 @TartanSpartan, is it a vivid container, or xenial container?
 Unity 8 and 16.04 is more important than anbox
 Elaborate on that question @dohbee please?
 @PhoenixLandPirate, +1
 +1
 @TartanSpartan, you asked about libertine on 16.04. is the container you're using vivid or xenial?
 and what happens exactly when you try to run something with u-a-l?
 How do I determine that? My arale started on 15.04 and got upgraded to 16.04. I upgraded dependencies within the container.
 did you upgrade the container to 16.04?
 @UniversalSuperBox WebEngine is the new thing, based on chromium
[19:37]  * melodie kick ubptgbot 
[19:37] <melodie> :D
 I assume that that's a yes? Upgraded all the deps to their 16.04 versions.
 @TartanSpartan, how exactly?
 @ubports_bot, please don't kick the bot
 u-a-l throws the splash screen but the app never launches, it just reverts to the terminal.
 https://github.com/mariogrip/experimental-qtwebbrowser
 @TartanSpartan, what does the log for the app say? (in `~/.cache/upstart/`)
 Used the libertine-container-manager exec command "apt updae && apt upgrade"
 @TartanSpartan, that doesn't magically upgrage to 16.04
 We went over this a few weeks ago, I can try it again and read the log, but I  remember you guys said it didn't look promising.
 How would you go about upgrading it then?
 @TartanSpartan, You have to change the apt sources to point at the correct URLs, and to xenial, and then you can `apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade` after
 some things might break though
 @mariogrip, oh, just a very basic web browser with some of the same ui as ubuntu browser?
 I believe I did at least some of those things, I'll check it out though. Surprised nobody sugested that before.
 Props to @UniversalSuperBox for the continued good pronunciation of my name :)
 I was just making lunch and found a container that was old.
 @TartanSpartan, what URLs are in your `/etc/apt/sources.list` inside the container?
 @dohbee, its a really basic webbrowser is not based on the ut browser. it uses the qtwebbrowser that is using the qt quick control
 I'm typing and watching the stream from my M10, I'll get my arale in a minute.
 Incidentally, what would we expect to happen if we used the Software Updater GUI program in the container and it asked if we wanted to ugrade to Xenial? The container wouldn't have permissions to accomplish that, right?
 @TartanSpartan, does it actually do that?
 what did i fix?
 Shout out to Rodney :D
 You fixed the fabric of the universe.
 @UniversalSuperBox on soundcloud for the audiocast
 https://soundcloud.com/ubports/i-never-sleep
 And yes. It shows this:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/TRGf0Yvd.png
 Just as you'd expect with a desktop. Note this is on the container in my turbo.
 weird. i would expect that to not work very well at all
 Which is still on 15.04.
 also it's not a great way to upgrade a container
 @Flohack the name is perfect!!!
 Makes sense, and I wouldn't touch it without a greenlight from you guys. Maybe not even then.
 flohex?
 ;)
 it will install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage and all kinds of stuff you don't need in the container
 Gotcha.
 @mariogrip gripsacks
 😂
 @wayneoutthere, Flo Hacks
 i was full of jokingness
 hex is a spell
 hex is your avatar
 Any plan to make changelogs for devel images?
 (Photo, 1280x718) https://irc.ubports.com/Sr3yzCtv.png hacking
 ha
 @DiogoConstantino, I need this for my articles!!!!
 @advocatux, the answer is still that it's incredibly difficult to produce something meaningful for regular users
 @Flohack I'm not the author of that
 I can give you mine
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/sWRlHjiq.png
 @advocatux, Its also very hard to do this without a very very strict checkin / pull / branch strategy, that you can only enforce with putting up a lot of rules for devs.
 @dohbee, It's fine to me if the changelogs don't make sense to regular users 😉
 if you like the other better I can ask the author
 If someone can help me testing this? https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1067/howto-flohack-s-special-convergence-use-a-simulated-miracast-sink-for-testing-convergence
 @Flohack, Ohh
 @Flohack what's the feature on wifi that's needed for the aethercast?
 @dohbee, See my article, basically P2P-... stuff
 @dohbee the sources.list looks correct, deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports xenial main etc
 @TartanSpartan, do dist-upgrade then
 @Flohack How can we figure if our wifi cards support those features?
 @Flohack, looks like maybe my intel wifi has it
 @DiogoConstantino, See my article, issue iw phy | grep P2P
 more or less ;)
 thanks
 but i don't know what the hex means
 me neither, its a new kind of toy for me 😆
 @Flohack, can i do it without killing networkmanager?
 ie, i've disabled wifi in nm
 @mariogrip use setenv("MIR_SERVER_PLATFORM_GRAPHICS_LIB", lib, 1); to force a specific platform
 @dohbee, No, unfortunately not. The network manager obviously interferes with the mode of the card and wants to put it back into managed
 maybe
 maybe if its not managing your card
 On it.
 i only have wifi because bluetooth
 @dohbee, thats great, then it could work. I took most of this stuff from the miraclecast page BTW
 Hmm I thought of a question. On a SIM compatible tablet. If it got ported to Ubuntu Touch, would you consider giving telephony functions to it? Even though the idea of holding a bigass tablet to your head is absurd, but then, you could use a headset.
 anything like pavucontrol on UBPorts?
 (Photo, 240x210) https://irc.ubports.com/KEmc0l0M.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/CI0SUxl6.mp4
 this?
 Hahaha right!
 @PhoenixLandPirate, Gif support
 @TartanSpartan, if it has GSM voice support in the hardware, it should 'just work'
 @dohbee, Yes its just an oversized phone. phablet as such ^^
 Do many SIM'd tablets have that support?
 i don't think so
 Voip
 Using public wifi
 samsung galaxy note though, of course
 @TartanSpartan, Its just the same with the phones, we need to make a port. If you suggest a device, maybe I can get one ^^
 I know VOIP is an option, but this is a "for science" curiosity, or maybe a "yeah, why not"?
 I like science
 I was just thinking about the 4G M10, but dunno if it's hardware allows for telephony.
 I know people who have not-that-big tablets with voice call support and use them as a phone
 One single time for the world UTC
 [Edit] One single time for the world: UTC
 @DiogoConstantino, tea time is the only time
 ahah
 "Time is an illusion.  Lunchtime, doubly so."
 or to use one of my favorite quotes on the matter
 that
 it's on the same
 @UniversalSuperBox it's on the same server
 Of all measurable physical properties of this universe, time is definitely the one I hate the most.
 cat-cam - new feature
 Nice qna guys. Thanks to all of you.
 👍
 Great Q&A once again
 Thanks.  Informative and encouraging as always.
 I wanted to ask one question though... Ot actually.. how many of u guys have cats ? 😁😁
 @MrStupidNo1, https://t.me/CatsOfUbuntu
 @advocatux, TIL  about it 😁 thanks
 I missed first 20 minutes of qna so going to watch that ...
 A perfect plan 👍
 Thanks to the brothers running this op!
 @dohbee did a dist-upgrade and it went nicely, but the apps still crash with u-a-l :(
 @TartanSpartan, what's in the log? unable to connect to mir socket?
 I'll check soon, off for a quick grocery shop.
 ok
[21:39] <ubptgbot> <R K> Is there any other way to install Ubuntu touch
 @R K, What do you mean exactly?
[21:42] <ubptgbot> <R K> I want to install in some other phone
[21:42] <ubptgbot> <R K> Is there any packages that we can download and them install Ubuntu touch
 a port must be built then. there is no way to do a generic install for arbitrary phones
 they are not built the same as generic PCs are
[21:43] <oerheks> What other phone exactly? is it in the supported devices list?
[21:43] <ubptgbot> <R K> No
[21:43] <ubptgbot> <R K> But features are exactly same
 features aren't the issue. hardware, kernel, and drivers are
[21:45] <ubptgbot> <R K> Hardware is same , then driver will not be problem
 No. Even the same chipset will have wildly different drivers and configuration on another device.
[21:46] <oerheks> R K what phone exactly?
[21:46] <ubptgbot> <R K> Xiaomi redmi 2
[21:47] <ubptgbot> <R K> Is it possible to get iso file of Ubuntu touch
 no, there is no ISO of it
[21:47] <ubptgbot> <R K> Please I want to install anyway
[21:47] <ubptgbot> <R K> @UniversalSuperBox, Can you please elaborate
[21:47] <ubptgbot> <R K> I didn't understand
 and even if there were an ISO, an ISO wouldn't help for a phone
 @R K, The process to get Ubuntu touch running on an unsupported device starts at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 That is why it won't work
 @R K, same with which device?
[21:52] <ubptgbot> <R K> Nexus 4
 I can't see how it's same, hardware is completely different
 Nexus 4 is Snapdragon S4 Pro SoC, RN2 is Snapdragon 410
 [Edit] Nexus 4 is Snapdragon S4 Pro SoC, Redmi 2 is Snapdragon 410
[21:55] <ubptgbot> <R K> Just give me few minutes in morning I had seen the specifications
 but basically even if it were same SoC, you need to do the porting, just taking firmware from other phone and installing it won't work
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <R K> Ok
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <R K> Is it possible to make mobile friendly OS?
 em?
 i would hope so. that's what we're doing
[21:59] <oerheks> *if* we get full sourcecode of drivers for hardware, it can be done in one week
[22:00] <opendata> Oooh
[22:00] <opendata> 410 could be done in a week
[22:00] <opendata> You have awesome mainline support for basically everything
 Snap 410?
[22:02] <opendata> Yeah
[22:02]  * opendata hugs linaro and their dragonboard410c  work
 do you have any device with that?
 @trainailleur, Why building Hybris boot for me it's really hard? Is there a "repository" with boot.img already built for hybris-boot?
 Oops
 Why building Hybris boot for me it's really hard? Is there a "repository" with boot.img already built for hybris-boot?
[22:04] <opendata> No
 I just have a limited amount of memory and I would like to simplify my task
 @coolhacker_1, what are you trying to achieve?
 hybris-boot contains from kernel for your device, customized for Halium and initramfs
 [Edit] hybris-boot contains kernel for your device, customized for Halium and initramfs
 @dohbee Check this out:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0sk0bUQP.png
[22:12] <ubptgbot> Czlek was added by: Czlek
 Hello, @Czlek
 Welcome @Czlek  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
 [Edit] Welcome @Czlek !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
[22:18] <ubptgbot> <R K> @TartanSpartan, Which OS your using
 Ubuntu Touch
[22:18] <ubptgbot> <R K> How to join development team ?
 You're here
[22:19] <ubptgbot> <R K> How much development has been  done ? How to check ?
[22:20] <ubptgbot> <R K> I am living in Sweden if any one in Sweden we can meet and start doing improvement
 @TartanSpartan, Yay crashes
 @R K, In total? 5+ years of work
 @R K, We got someone from Norway 😆
 @R K, What do you mean by that? What you would define as "done"