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| ducasse | do the bionic server images now use the new installer? if so, are images with the old one still available? | 07:23 |
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| flocculant | ducasse: as far as I know they use subiquity yes. Also pretty sure that any of the daily builds are overwritten - know for sure with desktop iso's can't imagine server would be different | 07:30 |
| ducasse | what about the old installer? will there still be images using it? | 07:34 |
| flocculant | what old installer? | 07:34 |
| flocculant | oic | 07:34 |
| flocculant | I guess that whatever server image pre subiquity will still likely be using it | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info subiquity | 07:35 |
| ubottu | subiquity (source: subiquity): Ubuntu Server Installer. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.29 (bionic), package size 60 kB, installed size 259 kB | 07:35 |
| flocculant | morning lotuspsychje :) | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | !info subiquity xenial | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Package subiquity does not exist in xenial | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | ahar | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | morning flocculant :p | 07:35 |
| ducasse | maybe the lubuntu alternate image will still use the debian installer, i'll check | 07:37 |
| lapaga | hello - when I try and launch gnome-boxes it crashes- will cut and paste what it says in 2 parts so don't get +q | 09:05 |
| lapaga | (gnome-boxes:10377): Boxes-WARNING **: 02:03:20.114: wizard-source.vala:444: Failed to find OS with ID 'http://fedoraproject.org/fedora/27': Unknown OS ID 'http://fedoraproject.org/fedora/27' | 09:06 |
| ducasse | !paste | lapaga | 09:06 |
| ubottu | lapaga: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 09:06 |
| lapaga | the problem is that i am not running fedora | 09:07 |
| lapaga | I got boxes from the software center | 09:08 |
| SCHAPiE | g'mornin | 09:22 |
| krytarik | ducasse: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-April/000230.html - this talks about the server image changes a bit. | 11:24 |
| ducasse | krytarik: thanks a lot | 11:43 |
| blackflow | Is auto-suspend reverted in Bionic? The ReleaseNotes still mention it under New Since 17.10 for Desktop. | 11:59 |
| guardian | hello what kind of modifications will happen (based on experience) between final freeze and release? | 12:37 |
| tsimonq2 | guardian: Very little. | 12:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Final Freeze is a time where any package uploads go through thorough manual checking. | 12:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Anything that doesn't land for the release is then SRUed. | 12:38 |
| tsimonq2 | So while it's not *perfect*, it is certainly a time where we're focused on stability. | 12:39 |
| guardian | is there a way to see what's left before final freeze? | 12:43 |
| guardian | I'm home alone, tempted to install right now :D | 12:44 |
| tsimonq2 | guardian: I think it's "first come first serve" on updates -- we have no set list. | 12:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Although https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/bionic-changes will show further uploads. | 12:44 |
| guardian | thanks | 12:47 |
| katnip | someone posted this in the main channel, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.15.17/ , would it be safe to install one of these in 18.04 yet? | 14:04 |
| lotuspsychje | katnip: if its mainline, you can always try if it doesnt work, go back to previous kernel? | 14:05 |
| katnip | okay | 14:07 |
| lotuspsychje | katnip: but look at it this way, if your current kernel works good, why goto latest? | 14:07 |
| katnip | i was just wondering since it was in the main channel is all :) i'm not gonna do it, i have the proposed one now | 14:09 |
| katnip | 4.15.0-15-generic | 14:10 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 14:10 |
| katnip | :) | 14:10 |
| hggdh | katnip: please be aware that the Ubuntu kernel version string does not match upstream | 14:10 |
| katnip | yeah i just read that on the link provided on that page | 14:11 |
| katnip | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | 14:12 |
| hggdh | katnip: you can cat /proc/version_signature, and that will give you the (currently running) Ubuntu kernel version, and the base upstream version | 14:13 |
| katnip | Ubuntu 4.15.0-15.16-generic 4.15.15 | 14:14 |
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| lapaga | is it ok to ask a question here if you asked in another channel and have had no answer? | 14:31 |
| veebox | dont ask to ask just ask | 14:31 |
| hggdh | lapaga: yes. What is not OK is to simultaneously ask the same question on multiple channels | 14:32 |
| lapaga | i have been trying to install gnome-boxes and this is what i get https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mK4tPrYTXV/ | 14:32 |
| hggdh | lapaga: what is your Ubuntu version, and where did you get gnome-boxes? | 14:41 |
| lapaga | using ubuntu-mate 18.04 and got it via apt | 14:41 |
| hggdh | what is the package name? | 14:41 |
| lapaga | how do i find out? | 14:42 |
| lapaga | as far as I know the package name is gnome-boxes | 14:43 |
| hggdh | lapaga: dpkg -l gnome-boxes | 14:44 |
| lapaga | 3.28.1-1 is the version number | 14:45 |
| hggdh | yeah | 14:46 |
| hggdh | I found debian bug 804291 matching your result | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 804291 in gnome-boxes "Crashes when starting after importing system VMs" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/804291 | 14:46 |
| lapaga | guess I will wait then | 14:47 |
| hggdh | yes. There is also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1448891 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1448891 in gnome-boxes "Boxes crashes on start" [High,New] | 14:49 |
| hggdh | lapaga: there is also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1461646#c7 -- this suggests something in the linked bug allowed the poster to bypass the issue | 14:51 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1461646 in gnome-boxes "gnome-boxes segfault" [Low,New] | 14:51 |
| lapaga | everything is pointing to fedora but i was going to try xubuntu | 14:52 |
| katnip | opensuse tumbleweed isnt bad | 14:53 |
| hggdh | as far as I can understand every distro using this version of gnome-boxes has the same problem. | 14:53 |
| lapaga | i have nothing in images ... oh well | 14:57 |
| lapaga | guess i will stick with vbox for now | 14:59 |
| katnip | https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-3-28-desktop-gets-first-point-release-it-s-ready-for-mass-deployment-520682.shtml | 15:00 |
| simonizor | So uh... any reason that a broken, unpatched version of libfreetype6 is being used in an LTS release? | 15:21 |
| simonizor | The version that is being shipped with 18.04 has font rendering issues | 15:21 |
| simonizor | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/96230043209981952/434424537967362068/unknown.png | 15:23 |
| simonizor | That is caused by unpatched libfreetype6 >= 2.8.1 | 15:23 |
| simonizor | I had kinda hoped someone would realize that by now, but apparently no one thought to test Electron apps and/or look at other distros bug reports for libfreetype6 | 15:25 |
| simonizor | There's even a bug report from Debian for this that no one looked at lol https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=882986 | 15:51 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 882986 in libfreetype6 "libfreetype6: the package destoys the rendering of font in visual studio code" [Important,Open] | 15:51 |
| brainwash | simonizor: I suggest forwarding this bug to the upstream devs of libfreetype6 | 16:12 |
| brainwash | simonizor: oh. didn't read the whole thing | 16:14 |
| brainwash | I guess in this case you should create a bug report on launchpad | 16:14 |
| brainwash | maybe the patch can be backported | 16:14 |
| simonizor | This bug report has a bit more info https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=878834 | 16:44 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 878834 in libfreetype6 "freetype: Upgrade to 2.8.1 breaks font rendering in various applications" [Serious,Fixed] | 16:44 |
| simonizor | Marked as resolved, but not actually resolved | 16:44 |
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| slidinghorn | ayy simonizor fancy seeing you here | 16:50 |
| slidinghorn | (brassman from the discord) | 16:50 |
| bodie__ | is there a bug for tor browser performance regression on ubuntu 18.04? | 17:20 |
| bodie__ | I've installed it from the main site's download installer, so perhaps there's a ubuntu-specific way to install it? | 17:21 |
| brainwash | bodie__: it's not in the ubuntu repos | 17:57 |
| brainwash | oh. there is torbrowser-launcher actually | 17:58 |
| brainwash | but that is just a launcher which will download the tor browser | 17:59 |
| brainwash | bodie__: best to contact the tor browser devs | 17:59 |
| lol768 | can someone tell me which version of libcairo bionic beaver is using? | 18:16 |
| lol768 | if I am to trust Launchpad... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libcairo2-dev/1.15.10-2? | 18:17 |
| slidinghorn | lol768: that's what shows up in my repos | 18:18 |
| lol768 | I am a little confused, is bionic using a development version? | 18:18 |
| lol768 | https://www.cairographics.org/releases/ suggests latest is 1.14.12 | 18:18 |
| slidinghorn | lol768: Just looking at the changelog listings I see 1.15.12 | 18:22 |
| lol768 | can you find an archive for it though? | 18:23 |
| lol768 | all I see are the Ruby bindings (rcairo) | 18:23 |
| simonizor | lol768: lern2packagesite https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcairo&searchon=names&suite=bionic§ion=all | 18:25 |
| lol768 | that .. doesn't answer my question :P | 18:25 |
| simonizor | It does | 18:25 |
| simonizor | https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libcairo2 | 18:26 |
| lol768 | I guess I should ask the cairo folks, but I'm still unclear on whether 1.15.12 has actually been released or not | 18:26 |
| simonizor | "Package: libcairo2 (1.15.10-2)" | 18:26 |
| simonizor | Like I said, lern2packagesite :P | 18:26 |
| lol768 | Again, please read my previous messages :P | 18:27 |
| lol768 | The tar archive does _not_ exist on upstream's site | 18:27 |
| simonizor | > can someone tell me which version of libcairo bionic beaver is using? | 18:27 |
| lol768 | That was messages - plural | 18:27 |
| simonizor | The source archives are also linked there | 18:27 |
| simonizor | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cairo/cairo_1.15.10.orig.tar.xz | 18:28 |
| simonizor | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cairo/cairo_1.15.10-2.debian.tar.xz | 18:28 |
| lol768 | Sure | 18:28 |
| lol768 | does that correspond to a specific upstream cairo release? | 18:28 |
| simonizor | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/cairo/cairo_1.15.10-2/changelog | 18:29 |
| simonizor | Again, from the package site | 18:29 |
| lol768 | so it's based off a development version? | 18:30 |
| bodie__ | it looks like the performance issue is actually firefox, not tor, and I didn't notice because I've been using nightly. | 21:05 |
| bodie__ | I have ff 59 and it's making the desktop performance (including e.g. switching panes) really really slow. | 21:05 |
| brainwash | bodie__: and that's an issue specific to 18.04? | 21:09 |
| bodie__ | no clue | 21:09 |
| bodie__ | I never use normal firefox.... going to dig in now. it makes everything unusably slow, so I can't use tor | 21:09 |
| bodie__ | (browser) | 21:09 |
| brainwash | isn't the tor project using firefox ESR though? | 21:11 |
| brainwash | that being firefox 52 ESR | 21:11 |
| bodie__ | right, so I'm thinking that whatever is causing the normal ff to be absurdly slow is also impacting torbrowser | 21:15 |
| bodie__ | it's so slow that it makes my wm pause for 5-10 seconds just to switch out of the desktop ff resides in | 21:16 |
| tomreyn | look at about:performance | 23:13 |
| BionicMac | tor firefox 52.7.3 is my tor-browser ff version. I use the launcher and it grabs the latest stable browser. | 23:36 |
| BionicMac | Works great here. No issues. | 23:37 |
| BionicMac | hmm new kernel today | 23:43 |
| mattfly | hi | 23:45 |
| mattfly | anyone experiencing a lot of lag | 23:45 |
| BionicMac | irc lag? | 23:46 |
| valorie | !lag | 23:46 |
| ubottu | You have lag, I don't have lag | 23:46 |
| valorie | :-) | 23:46 |
| BionicMac | No lag here. But I can see you slowing down. =) | 23:47 |
| mattfly | no | 23:51 |
| mattfly | i was out | 23:51 |
| mattfly | usually i get no replies i wasnt expecting this to happen 😂 | 23:52 |
| mattfly | I have lag on ubuntu | 23:52 |
| mattfly | gnome-shell, kde, even i3 windows manager | 23:52 |
| mattfly | some applications simply get stuck, any application | 23:52 |
| mattfly | like if there was some lag | 23:52 |
| BionicMac | mattfly: You mean the OS itself is lagging. Not here. It's greased lightning. | 23:53 |
| mattfly | you are in what flavor? | 23:53 |
| mattfly | gnome shell flavor | 23:53 |
| mattfly | ? | 23:53 |
| mattfly | what about this gnome-shell memory leak | 23:53 |
| BionicMac | Kubuntu and/or Unity ( I have a partition for each. ) | 23:54 |
| mattfly | and seriously? you havent had any lag? do you have a gpu and its drivers installed? what kernel is it? | 23:54 |
| BionicMac | None lag in either flavor. | 23:54 |
| mattfly | kubuntu is so crazilly lag to me | 23:54 |
| mattfly | what are you using | 23:54 |
| mattfly | daily? | 23:54 |
| BionicMac | I've been running them for a few weeks. | 23:54 |
| mattfly | me too but it gets odly bad sometimes | 23:54 |
| mattfly | are you able to hibernate? | 23:54 |
| BionicMac | Well es. Last install I did from scratch was Beta 2 iso. Now I update with apt-get every day. So yes, I am running daily. | 23:55 |
| BionicMac | mattfly: hibernate is a different story. | 23:56 |
| mattfly | apt upgrade? | 23:56 |
| mattfly | hibernation never works to me | 23:56 |
| BionicMac | I've tried it once since I installed 18.04 and ... same as always in Linx for me. Crash stuck freeze. Linux & Hibernate is a crap shoot. | 23:56 |
| mattfly | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/667833 | 23:56 |
| mattfly | on 17.10 it was working perfectly | 23:57 |
| mattfly | taking like 10 seconds to hibernate and like 30 to restore | 23:57 |
| mattfly | I have an ssd and 16gb of ram and a nvidia gtx 150ti | 23:57 |
| BionicMac | Oh yeah. Vivaldi installed with apt is good to go. !@! | 23:58 |
| mattfly | wow i didnt know | 23:59 |
| BionicMac | You have to add the repos but yeah. | 23:59 |
| mattfly | aw | 23:59 |
| BionicMac | not official | 23:59 |
| mattfly | i use firefox | 23:59 |
| mattfly | i got used with haveing ajust 4gb ram and now im closing tabs and closing all i can but i have 16 now | 23:59 |
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