[00:00] <BionicMac> Yes. here also. I do want to give vivaldi a shot though. Now it's a clanISH install even though not official.
[00:00] <mattfly> hey do you have spotify?
[00:00] <BionicMac> 24G ram here so I abuse my ff with tabs.
[00:00] <BionicMac> yes.
[00:00] <mattfly> lol
[00:00] <mattfly> hey isnt spotify freezing all the time to you?
[00:00] <BionicMac> never
[00:00] <BionicMac> but there are several ways to install.
[00:01] <mattfly> damn why am I son unlucky :P
[00:01] <mattfly> i tried snap 
[00:01] <mattfly> and ppas
[00:01] <mattfly> both have this problem
[00:01] <BionicMac> I tried them all. I have to look at my notes to see which I am runngin now.
[00:01] <mattfly> im with ppa right now
[00:01] <BionicMac> Actually I ended up just using my browser. The audio was far better for me. 
[00:02] <BionicMac> It was like a volume boost from app to web interface. noticable too. Cleaner and crisper.
[00:03] <mattfly> oh i should try that
[00:03] <BionicMac> Keep in mind the Linux spotify application is pet project and not considered stable.
[00:03] <mattfly> yeah but it worked nice on 16.04
[00:03] <BionicMac> I lov ethe web interface less headache and i can have my Panora or Spotify anytime, anywhere, any OS. =) quickly with no installs or learning curve.
[00:03] <mattfly> i cant get how hibernation could work so nice on 17.10 and now only crashes 
[00:03] <BionicMac> I actually like the web interface better for pandora and spotify.
[00:04] <mattfly> any chance the first lts release will be better?
[00:04] <mattfly> theres too much to fix from my point of view...
[00:04] <BionicMac> the native linux spotify app?
[00:04] <BionicMac> I have no idea.
[00:06] <mattfly> no the ubuntu lagging
[00:06] <mattfly> and hibernation
[00:06] <mattfly> its amazing that on the live cd its super fast
[00:06] <mattfly> maybe its something i am running
[00:07] <mattfly> I have synergy, vscode, thunderbird, lmms with a midi keyborad plugged, firefox, soptify and dolphin open
[00:19] <BionicMac> mattfly: https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/kEwa6JG3ZzJqhZi 
[00:19] <BionicMac> In case you want to try vivaldi. 
[00:20] <BionicMac> mattfly: well check your system load with those running and look for the culprit(s).
[00:20] <mattfly> my system load?
[00:20] <mattfly> no
[00:20] <BionicMac> even a good ole' (h)top would work
[00:20] <mattfly> its fine
[00:21] <mattfly> , im looking on htop
[00:21] <BionicMac> what do you see?
[00:21] <mattfly> 9 gb used of 16, processors at 10%
[00:21] <BionicMac> sounds good
[00:21] <mattfly> okay lmms is talking 29 %
[00:21] <BionicMac> hmmm
[00:21] <mattfly> its the worst there
[00:21] <BionicMac> that one is a bugger
[00:21] <mattfly> no
[00:21] <BionicMac> kill lmms only
[00:22] <mattfly> thats normal for lmms
[00:22] <BionicMac> lmms has historically been a resource hog.
[00:22] <mattfly> and i tried without it
[00:22] <mattfly> its not the problem
[00:22] <BionicMac> hmm
[00:23] <mattfly> do you have virtual box?
[00:23] <BionicMac> yes
[00:23] <BionicMac> runs fine with the normal lag in vbox itself. doesn't affect the rest of my system.
[00:23] <mattfly> maybe was some mess with those kernel modules or something
[00:23] <mattfly> now on gnome shell its a bit better
[00:24] <mattfly> but if I am on kde its annoying
[00:24] <BionicMac> Upgraded my kernel today with the official updates.
[00:24] <mattfly> aw me too
[00:24] <mattfly> it updated nvidia drivers too
[00:24] <mattfly> but right now im using kernel 4.16
[00:25] <BionicMac> Time to grab some food.. be back in minute.
[00:25] <BionicMac> You should try it with the official kernel and see what gives.
[00:25] <BionicMac> grabbing food... 
[00:25] <mattfly> yesterday i tried to edit some spreadsheets with libreoffice
[00:25] <mattfly> i just had some lag now
[00:26] <mattfly> well and i just couldnt, everything got slowed down a lot
[00:26] <mattfly> my fans were turnning on all the time
[00:45] <BionicMac> oooo vivaldi is sweeeet =0
[06:16] <quidnunc> How do I change display managers?
[06:16] <quidnunc> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to work anymore
[06:22] <slidinghorn> quidnunc: try sudo update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager
[06:23] <quidnunc> --configure? --set-selections?
[06:23] <slidinghorn> --config  sorry
[06:24] <quidnunc> slidinghorn: Says gnome-session
[06:25] <quidnunc> slidinghorn: but /etc/X11/default-display-manager says lxde
[06:26] <slidinghorn> LXDE isn't a display manager...which DM are you trying to use?
[06:26] <quidnunc> gdm
[06:26] <slidinghorn> (it *has* a display manager - lxdm)
[06:27] <quidnunc> sorry lxdm
[06:27] <quidnunc> I meant to say
[06:27] <slidinghorn> ...and you have gdm installed, right?
[06:27] <quidnunc> I just re-installed gdm3
[06:27] <quidnunc> there doesn't seem to be a package named gdm anymore
[06:29] <slidinghorn> ok...if the update-alternatives method doesn't allow you to change it, just edit the /etc/X11/default-display-manager to say /usr/sbin/gdm3
[06:29] <slidinghorn> (that should be the right path)
[06:30] <quidnunc> okay, dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 invokes the configuration selector, but I get "gdm.service is not active"
[06:30] <quidnunc> ", cannot reload"
[06:30] <quidnunc> "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm3, action 'reload' failed""
[06:30] <slidinghorn> you're on 18.04 right?
[06:31] <quidnunc> yes
[06:32] <slidinghorn> sudo systemctl enable gdm.service  (you may have to disable the lxdm service - I'm not sure)
[06:34] <quidnunc> slidinghorn: Seems someone had a similar problem on stackexchange. Rebooting solves it, apparently
[06:34] <quidnunc> I'm going to try that
[06:34] <quidnunc> Thanks for the help!
[06:34] <slidinghorn> good luck!
[06:34] <quidnunc> :)
[12:37] <katnip> when are the updates frozen if they are?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> katnip: what do you mean?
[12:38] <katnip> i havent had any updates since yesterday so i wondered if it was frozen yet
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> katnip: try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:40] <katnip> yah that's my command each time :)
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> katnip: if there are none, there are none :p
[12:41] <katnip> okay :)
[12:41] <katnip> just checking... :)
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> katnip: did you see the new wallpapers in your system?
[12:42] <katnip> the orange ones?
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/13/ubuntu-desktop-weekly-update-13-april-2018
[12:44] <katnip> yeah... i do not have these
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> katnip: your on gnome?
[12:45] <katnip> yes
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> then you should..
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-wallpapers
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> got this version katnip ?
[12:47] <katnip> ubuntu-wallpapers is already the newest version (18.04.1-0ubuntu1).
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> weird
[12:48] <katnip> actually i do lol
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> thought so
[12:49] <katnip> i like the blue one at the top  of the choices, i like dark
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> katnip: https://imgur.com/a/bTtdN
[12:57] <katnip> i like that
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[12:59] <katnip> putting the dock on the bottom, i'm personally not a fan of wifi, i like ROOTBOOK too :)
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> its a netbook so i need wifi
[12:59] <katnip> oh ok
[13:00] <katnip> i use a laptop with external monitor, keyboard, mouse
[13:15] <katnip> lotuspsychje, under settings > details ; when will it change from dev branch to the normal one?
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> katnip: at final release 26 april
[13:18] <katnip> ok
[13:18] <katnip> just making sure i didnt have a file in error
[13:19] <katnip> ever try wavebox?
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> no?
[13:20] <katnip> wavebox.io
[13:23] <katnip> my trial ran out and they emailed me for the 20 for a yr, i told them i couldnt afford it right now since i was going thru chemo, they sent an email back and gave me a complimentary copy for a yr and said 'get well from the wavebox team.' so i recommend it. works really great.
[21:58] <mattfly> Hi!
[21:59] <mattfly> surprisingly the updates from today fixed all the lags on my ubuntu bionic
[23:03] <quidnunc> How do I debug why gdm fails to configure graphics?
[23:12] <slidinghorn> quidnunc: in what way is it failing to configure graphics?  Can you elaborate?