| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 01:24 |
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| slidinghorn | Morning? You must be up super early | 01:25 |
| slidinghorn | what time is it there? | 01:25 |
| lotuspsychje | you got me through slidinghorn :p | 01:25 |
| lotuspsychje | im early 3h26 | 01:26 |
| slidinghorn | why are you waking up at 3:25am?? | 01:26 |
| lotuspsychje | im in vacation mode so didnt need much sleep | 01:26 |
| lotuspsychje | i set my buzzer at 3h just to see you guys lol | 01:26 |
| slidinghorn | well you're in for a disappointing morning! :P | 01:27 |
| lotuspsychje | trolls & naggers again? | 01:27 |
| slidinghorn | it wouldn't be #ubuntu without them | 01:27 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 01:27 |
| lotuspsychje | some ppl need proper attention... | 01:27 |
| lotuspsychje | and i never believed in /ignores | 01:28 |
| lotuspsychje | thats like an austrich putting head in the sand | 01:28 |
| lotuspsychje | cool bionic wallpapers added | 01:30 |
| lotuspsychje | https://imgur.com/a/bTtdN | 01:33 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pragmaticenigma | 02:58 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: support slowly &stable | 02:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | dunno... been focused on my dev project | 03:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | what's up lotuspsychje | 03:03 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: new bionic wall: you like? https://imgur.com/a/bTtdN | 03:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | something you made or is that in the collection? | 03:05 |
| lotuspsychje | new wallpapers just added from repo | 03:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | looks cool | 03:06 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah they added some nice ones | 03:07 |
| EriC^^ | morning all | 04:19 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ | 04:21 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 04:21 |
| EriC^^ | whats up | 04:21 |
| lotuspsychje | all fine here mate | 04:22 |
| lotuspsychje | reading up some news with coffee | 04:22 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 04:23 |
| EriC^^ | i'm trying to remove the hwe package | 04:23 |
| EriC^^ | installed it yesterday to try to fix the mic not getting picked up, my res is gone from display so i want to remove it | 04:24 |
| lotuspsychje | ouch | 04:30 |
| EriC^^ | yeah it's messy | 04:31 |
| EriC^^ | rebooting | 04:33 |
| EriC^^ | back in business | 04:36 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 04:36 |
| lotuspsychje | wb | 04:37 |
| lotuspsychje | worked? | 04:37 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Want my recipe to revert HWE ? | 04:51 |
| * slidinghorn just accidentally ended up on a YouTube linux talk show somehow lol | 04:56 | |
| Bashing-om | slidinghorn: Who says there are no happy accidents :) | 04:57 |
| slidinghorn | I thought I was just joining some kind of chat room for folks watching and next thing I know, my face is on the screen xD | 04:58 |
| slidinghorn | (good thing I was clothed!) | 04:58 |
| Bashing-om | slidinghorn: Them sneaky cams ! | 04:58 |
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: yeah | 05:05 |
| EriC^^ | Bashing-om: thanks, i reverted it using apt/history.log | 05:05 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: You *ARE* good :) | 05:05 |
| EriC^^ | good ol' 4.4 kernel back running | 05:06 |
| === kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar | ||
| EriC^^ | lotuspsychje: how's the belgium got talent? any good stuff or funny stuff? | 05:07 |
| Bashing-om | EriC^^: Yepper .... if there is no need, don't HWE :) | 05:07 |
| EriC^^ | yup, dont do hwe kids should be taught in schools | 05:08 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 05:08 |
| ducasse | good morning, everyone | 06:09 |
| slidinghorn | mornin' ducasse | 06:10 |
| ducasse | hi slidinghorn - all well? | 06:10 |
| slidinghorn | I'm alive and kicking - can't really complain I guess :) | 06:12 |
| EriC^^ | morning ducasse o/ | 06:23 |
| ducasse | hi EriC^^ - how are you? | 06:26 |
| EriC^^ | good thanks you? | 06:26 |
| ducasse | yep, all good here. just waking up. | 06:26 |
| ducasse | the snow has finally begun to melt outside, making the grass visible here and there. there's still a ton left, though. | 06:28 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 06:29 |
| slidinghorn | I'm in Ohio, so the snow melting is an illusion...it was 70F+ the past couple days, and it's going to snow again tomorrow | 06:30 |
| ducasse | we've had temperatures upward of 15°C here, so i hope there's no more snow coming | 06:32 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon guys | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !party | 12:31 |
| ubot5` | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !bionic release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/3339/ | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:42 |
| lotuspsychje | hey BluesKaj afternoon mate | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | Hey lotuspsychje, how's it going? | 12:43 |
| lotuspsychje | great here | 12:43 |
| lotuspsychje | very lazy sunday | 12:43 |
| ducasse | hi BluesKaj - all well? | 12:44 |
| BluesKaj | Hey ducasse , yes, fine here, and you? | 12:45 |
| ducasse | good here, thanks - really warm today | 12:46 |
| BluesKaj | well, so far the predicted storm hasn't materialized here, just cold and windy | 12:47 |
| * BluesKaj keeps fingers crossed | 12:49 | |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw join the sunday club | 12:51 |
| pauljw | hi lotuspsychje :) | 12:51 |
| ducasse | \o pauljw | 12:51 |
| ducasse | how's your weekend? | 12:51 |
| pauljw | hey ducasse, wet but good. how are you? | 12:52 |
| ducasse | wet but warm :) | 12:53 |
| lotuspsychje | they pronounce summer thuesday in belgium | 12:54 |
| pauljw | :) | 12:54 |
| lotuspsychje | temps around 25c | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey pauljw | 12:55 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | my connection is gonna drop for a few mins, connecting up the vpn | 12:56 |
| lotuspsychje | kk | 12:56 |
| pauljw | k | 12:56 |
| pauljw | i don't even bother with vpn at home anymore, lose 50-70% speed. | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | new modem should arrive tomorrow, the new ISP 100mb speed is 15X faster than the dsl I'm on now...looking forward to it, altho i heard yesterday that throttling is used during heavy traffic hours | 13:08 |
| pauljw | i'm so jealous!! | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | pauljw, I'm paying a much higher price for it tho | 13:11 |
| pauljw | no doubt, but if i could get that sort of service, i could drop directv and more than make up for additional costs. :) | 13:13 |
| BluesKaj | $80CDN ...equivalent to $65US...yeah I dropped Bell sat service to justify the additional costs ... most of the shows I watch are availble on"IPTV"anyway | 13:15 |
| * BluesKaj is a bit of a newshound and all "the biggies" have live streams now | 13:19 | |
| pauljw | :D | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | for example.was watch Russia Today yesterday. They aren't egven subtle about their anti-western slant on the news. It's really quite.funny | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | watching | 13:24 |
| pauljw | :) | 13:25 |
| lotuspsychje | !info gnome-shell bionic | 13:29 |
| ubot5` | gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-0ubuntu5 (bionic), package size 675 kB, installed size 7395 kB | 13:29 |
| BluesKaj | lotuspsychje, did Ubuntu drop Wayland as the default window system for Bionic or was that just a rumour aboutr Wayland becoming the default | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: we had users reporting that new too, prob spam | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: bionic has now xorg by default, wayland still choosable | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | right' | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont think after all the hard work on wayland they would drop | 13:39 |
| hggdh | it is just not the default | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | tried wayland on fedora 26 on the laptop , it was ok , but seemed sluggish on an i3 cpu with 8G ram etc | 13:40 |
| hggdh | not stable enough for LTS | 13:40 |
| lotuspsychje | gnome 3.28.1 rolling out that should be fixing alot of stuff | 13:48 |
| lotuspsychje | till now i had sluggishness feeling on both xorg & wayland | 13:49 |
| akem | I have a background script to reload gnome-shell when it takes too much ram. | 14:01 |
| akem | it get backs to ~170 M after reload. | 14:01 |
| akem | But it works with Xorg only, cannot reload at runtime on Wayland without loosing the session. | 14:03 |
| akem | https://github.com/rousselgeoffrey/gnomeShellWorkaround/blob/master/Workaround_gnome-shell-memleak.sh if anyone's interested. | 14:25 |
| === czesmir_ is now known as czesmir | ||
| daftykins | BluesKaj: i see you saw emma with the PIA + kubuntu DNS problem, what's the thing that goes wrong where PIA breaks using your own router's DNS even when the VPN is disconnected? | 18:58 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, we solved it by editing the nameserver to 127.0.0.53 in /etc/resolv.conf..seems to be default now , i also installed ifupdown for good measure | 19:00 |
| daftykins | mmm, sounds weird that it was pointing to localhost in resolv.conf - must be a sign of that automagic rubbish 'resolvconf' :) my advice was going to be purge resolvconf and create resolv.conf manually pointing to 8.8.8.8 - but i was making pasta :D | 19:01 |
| daftykins | she was breaking a cardinal rule and asking in two channels at once | 19:02 |
| BluesKaj | oh , didn't notice the duplicate chans | 19:03 |
| daftykins | mmm it's not a #u namespace one though, just a chat one we know her from | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, yeah I've chatted with her before | 19:05 |
| TJ- | resolv.conf is a symlink to to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf, which should be updated by the system's active name resolver. If it's Network Manager, for 16.40 it'll be a private instance of dnsmasq listening on 127.0.1.1. For 17.10+ it'll be systemd-resolved listening on 127.0.0.53 | 19:06 |
| daftykins | TJ-: apparently some PIA app moves resolv.conf to /tmp on connection and messes about, at least that's the idea i got | 19:10 |
| TJ- | daftykins: it ought not! any VPN should just send new/additional DNS names/IP addresses, same was as it does for routes | 19:11 |
| TJ- | What do PIA use, isn't it openvpn? | 19:11 |
| daftykins | not a clue off hand, never used and certainly never used from a desktop Linux :) | 19:12 |
| BluesKaj | TJ-, yes , openvpn is one of their protocols | 19:17 |
| leftyfb | daftykins: btw, you should switch out Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS for google's 8.8.8.8. It's WAY faster and more secure. | 19:17 |
| daftykins | leftyfb: no, i shouldn't - because i don't own a tinfoil hat | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | daftykins: neither do I. But the speed made a huge difference for me. | 19:21 |
| daftykins | i think that'll be down to a lot of factors that'd differ depending where you are - and the speed of connection you're on, etc | 19:22 |
| daftykins | well not really speed since DNS is just tiny data, but y'know what i mean i'm sure | 19:22 |
| TJ- | clouflare's anycast network is more extensive that Google's, which is why in most cases it's latency is much lower | 19:23 |
| daftykins | how about the above 'more secure' claim? :) | 19:24 |
| TJ- | how much space do you think a basic root file-system container image should require for running bash? | 19:24 |
| TJ- | daftykins: it's more secure as in cloudfare are not keeping the logs, and aren't using to correlate your IP address and lookups with your Google profile | 19:25 |
| daftykins | KVM? hmm surely you're only going to stash some utils so a couple of hundred MB? | 19:25 |
| daftykins | er not kvm the other thing | 19:25 |
| TJ- | KVM? no not a VM, a container | 19:25 |
| daftykins | lxd malarkey (: | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | daftykins: https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-security/ | 19:26 |
| TJ- | 208KB :) | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | TJ-: so just the kernel and bash? Absolutely nothing else? | 19:27 |
| TJ- | leftyfb: no kernel, it's a container | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | oh right | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | how'd you manage to customize the container down to just basH? | 19:27 |
| TJ- | leftyfb: I'm working on developing an automated tool to create the smallest secure LXC config possible or any arbitrary executables. Apparently no such thing already exists which seems a great ommission. | 19:28 |
| daftykins | leftyfb: i know about DNSSec, i don't need a link xD i figured you were just doing the open source fan thing of paranoid delusion over google services, my mistake | 19:28 |
| leftyfb | TJ-: please share it once done | 19:28 |
| leftyfb | daftykins: not at all. I use the hell out of google. They've got ALL my data and I don't care one bit | 19:29 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:29 |
| TJ- | leftyfb: I'm building a config manually for now to identify the absolute minimum required, so I know what the tool needs to do | 19:29 |
| leftyfb | I used google's dns since I learned about it years ago ... but after the announcement of Cloudflare's DNS and their anycast stuff, I gave it a try and say a huge improvement in page loads | 19:30 |
| daftykins | i used to play with OpenDNS for a bit, but i'm on an ISP supplied router atm that you can't change it on, so i got a bit lazy :> | 19:30 |
| TJ- | leftyfb: neat thing is, not even the bash executable is in the container :D It's fun stuff once you get a handle on it | 19:30 |
| daftykins | i was very put off by OpenDNS's page interceptions though | 19:31 |
| leftyfb | I used opendns as well, but I actually saw the speed degrade over time and even had some issues resolving some things so I went back to google | 19:31 |
| daftykins | *nod* | 19:33 |
| BluesKaj | my ISP provides DNS services so i've been using them , but I'll be changing ISPs tomorrow so we'll see haow configurable their Arris DG3260 is | 19:33 |
| leftyfb | must be nice having the ability to switch ISP's :( | 19:34 |
| BluesKaj | as lolng as my old cable connection still works :-) | 19:34 |
| leftyfb | I mean I could if I was excited about DSL :/ | 19:34 |
| * daftykins pats his 60/10 VDSL2 :) | 19:35 | |
| leftyfb | man, how do you deal? | 19:35 |
| BluesKaj | leftyfb, I've been on dsl for yrs and finally decided to cancel my sat dish service and go with IPTV on the internet instead so i dom ned a larger pipe | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | do need | 19:36 |
| daftykins | 7MB/sec down and 1MB/sec up is ace | 19:36 |
| leftyfb | yeah, all my tv is streamed ... multiple streaming camera's around my property, smart home stuff, etc | 19:36 |
| leftyfb | Not to mention, I do have a business leased line because I do my own hosting | 19:37 |
| BluesKaj | daftykins, that's exactly what I have now , it'll be 100mb down and 8-10mb up tomorrow (I hope) | 19:38 |
| daftykins | hmm not a huge difference then, if you meant my megabit rates versus my megabyte rates | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | ok, didn't notice that :-) | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | well, think I'll call i a day here ...take care | 20:01 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| slidinghorn | What's the over/under on how many IPs this guy's going to try? | 21:42 |
| leftyfb | up to 4 now | 21:42 |
| oerheks | all from neighbours, i guess | 21:43 |
| slidinghorn | or a VPN with multiple locations | 21:43 |
| leftyfb | if by neighbors, you mean other countries, sure :) | 21:44 |
| oerheks | oh i see .. indeed a vpn user | 21:44 |
| TJ- | Fantastic! working LXC 3.0 container with just bash in it, 156KB whilst running | 23:00 |
| daftykins | :> | 23:01 |
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