[07:50] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:59] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[09:01] <brobostigon> o/
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> plans for today. walk to local market and have a rummage... avoid rain if possible
[09:06] <zmoylan-pi> it's ireland, it won't be :-)
[09:28] <brobostigon> :)
[20:16] <daftykins> only just discovered that Channel 4 HD has disappeared from freesat, sheesh
[20:16] <daftykins> apparently they don't want to pay the rates
[20:20] <diddledan> yeah, sucky
[20:22] <diddledan> the question is if you can still tune them directly by knowing the service id or if their bskyb variants are encrypted
[20:23] <daftykins> hrmm
[20:23] <diddledan> it'll require faffing about though if it is still tunable
[20:24] <daftykins> indeed
[20:25] <daftykins> my ~2014 model samsung upstairs can be set to 'satellite' instead of 'freesat' and get all the channels that are unencrypted on sky, like you say - made me laugh
[20:25] <daftykins> there's no guide data though so they all get jumbled up in a nasty order
[20:25] <diddledan> yeah. there's no hand-holding when you use a raw dvb-s mode
[20:25] <ali1234> thats because of the way freesat is licensed
[20:26] <diddledan> ages back I got a dbv-s2 card for my pc. still haven't managed/bothered to get it set up properly because it's confusing me
[20:26] <daftykins> *nod* there are all kinds of ways of dumping the data to a flash drive then juggling it around but - i don't even use broadcast, i just tuned it in because i had the fun of laying and terminating fresh coax for the services in my place whilst i had access to the scaffolding
[20:27] <daftykins> diddledan: i've been tempted to play with a card in a PC for a backend to share out over the network to Kodi instances... but again, broadcast TV :D
[20:27] <daftykins> you can get those HDhomerun devices that pop freeview straight onto the network, too
[20:28] <diddledan> :-) apart from the requirement for Flash for some of them, it's easier to use the catchup services for bbc, itv and channel4
[20:28] <diddledan> although I suppose the islands are blocked from those
[20:29] <daftykins> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Silicondust-HDHR5-2DT-HDHomeRun-CONNECT-Tuner/dp/B07BFNRGN9/
[20:29] <zmoylan-pi> send a drone to the mainland with a high def camera and watch someones tv there from home... :-P
[20:29] <daftykins> nah they're open afaik, but there's that login rubbish now for the BBC yeah?
[20:29] <diddledan> I've got an earlier model of those
[20:29] <diddledan> yup. gotta login to allow them "to tailor the service to you"
[20:30] <daftykins> :D
[20:30] <daftykins> it's a trap!
[20:30] <daftykins> you don't get many channels down here on freeview as the channels don't want to pay to cater for the Channel Islands
[20:31] <daftykins> i wonder if it's the same for the Scilly isles, been a while since i was in touch with some lads from down there
[20:31] <diddledan> https://media.giphy.com/media/srTYyZ1BjBtGU/giphy.gif
[20:31] <diddledan> I decided not to use Admiral thingy from Start Warts
[20:32] <daftykins> cunning, i don't even recognise that one
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> mad max i think
[20:32] <diddledan> mad max's furry road
[20:32] <daftykins> ah still never seen
[20:32] <zmoylan-pi> well look at the conditions... no way to shave that road...
[20:33] <daftykins> hmm the HDHomerun would actually be a quite nice solution for my client, piping them TV down to Spain
[20:33] <daftykins> not sure which client devices would be appropriate though
[20:33] <daftykins> ideal if their TVs could tune in of course :>
[20:34] <daftykins> actually given the VPN is already in place to his London pad, any of the TV based apps would likely do it direct
[20:35] <daftykins> ooh there's a FireTV app allegedly?
[20:36] <daftykins> oh Plex too, that might be on some smart TVs
[20:37] <diddledan> plex'll record, too
[20:37] <diddledan> in fact that's it's primary raison d'etre
[20:42] <daftykins> almost wouldn't mind picking up one of the dual tuner models to have a play, just found the amazon app store app for the hdhomerun
[20:42] <daftykins> clients don't have a FireTV down in Spain, mind
[20:46] <daftykins> i think they're going to end up happy with just amazon prime and iplayer working over it
[20:48] <zmoylan-pi> pffft, they'll get a betamax player and like it! :-P
[20:49] <daftykins> :D
[20:49] <zmoylan-pi> will silence any hipsters who visit... :-D
[20:49] <daftykins> imagine the fun of combing the south of Spain trying to find betamax tapes with the added complications of the language barrier
[20:50] <daftykins> oh i dunno if i mentioned i used the google translate android app to translate their ISP's letter the other day, that was fun
[20:51] <zmoylan-pi> you'd put a rasp pi inside the betamax altering the outputted signal to overlay subtitles in the language you choose :-P
[21:30] <daftykins> with a clever script to detect the 9 o'clock news and pause the subs
[21:34] <zmoylan-pi> or flip the channel when keywords are mentioned... +++brexit+++ ::flip::
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> drop and give him 20... :-( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey
[23:28] <daftykins> holy moly