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laptopbest mmorpg for ubuntu00:00
leftyfblaptop: Look for mmorpg's using the software center and try them out to determine which one you think is best00:01
leftyfblaptop: your question is not a support question00:01
leftyfblaptop: also, best is relative00:01
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brian_wilsonis it still ok to use ubuntu 14.04 for development? or are apps needing more and more the system update, and  it wouldn't be recommended?00:07
compdocone more year of support00:08
laptopwhat is bodhi based upon version 4.500:10
leftyfbbrian_wilson: I would suggest sticking with 16.04 or even 18.04 which will be out in a couple weeks00:11
leftyfblaptop: we do not support bodhi here00:11
Spax@brian_wilson Related, I was looking at Android development and they recommended 14.04 and said some things don't work in 16.04. I don't know what, or why.00:12
brian_wilsonSpax: thanks a bunch for that info, cause I do develop apps for android00:13
tomreynbrian_wilson:  this doesn't matter too much, though, since you can always run another ubuntu release in a chroot, lxd, docker container or PV/HVM00:15
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AJ2Hi All... I wanted to raise a question in this room to you all.  I am looking to install ubuntu or perhaps another distro to be used for everyday purposes.  I will be using it for development and running 3 or vms.  Would Ubuntu make a good and solid host for this, or would another distro be better in terms of my purpose.00:50
leftyfbAJ2: Ubuntu will work just fine for your needs00:55
AJ2but i guess i really want to know why someone picks to use ubuntu vs opensuse or something else01:04
yhAJ2 您使用什么系统?01:06
AJ2yes yh01:06
CarlFKAJ2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten   scroll down to >What distro?01:07
yhI use win10 and gnomeubuntu160401:09
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leftyfbAJ2: that's not a support question. Try out ubuntu and make the decision yourself based on your own personal needs and preferences01:12
brian_wilsonquick silly question: people are telling me to add some code to ~/.gtkrc-2.0, but I have no clue as to where it is and how01:13
brian_wilsonis it inside of the 'root' folder?01:13
brian_wilsonsorry for that, I'm a newbiw01:14
brian_wilsonnewbie*01:14
leftyfbbrian_wilson: did you try to edit it?01:14
brian_wilsonI'm not sure where it is, so...01:14
brian_wilsonno01:14
leftyfb~/.gtkrc-2.0 is the location01:14
leftyfbbrian_wilson: try ls -l ~/.gtkrc-2.001:14
leftyfbbrian_wilson: that will show you where it is01:14
leftyfbbrian_wilson: ~ is just a shortcut to your home directory01:16
brian_wilsonoh01:16
leftyfbbrian_wilson: who is telling you to add something to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and why?01:16
brian_wilsonit says there is no such file or folder01:16
leftyfbbrian_wilson: probably true, but it did you show that it tried looking in your home directory correct?01:16
brian_wilsonforum, wanted to change a the look of the panel on my distro01:16
brian_wilsoncorrect01:17
leftyfbbrian_wilson: which distro?01:17
brian_wilsonxubuntu01:17
stevendaleHey brian_wilson, The xubuntu support channel is #xubuntu, not here :)01:17
brian_wilsonit's no big deal, honestly. it's just that the panel doesn't hide completely01:18
brian_wilsonalright01:18
brian_wilsonhahah, sorry01:18
stevendaleIt's okay, you're welcome ^^"01:18
brian_wilsonI'll check it there01:18
The_Mec  all i'm getting is errors when i try to compile and install Libstdc++ https://pastebin.com/LRnNBDpU01:18
stevendaleThanks ^^01:18
leftyfbThe_Mec: why are you trying to compile libstdc++?01:19
The_Meci'm building my own Linux and i need to install this to a folder. but it wont compile at all. and its a fresh download01:20
leftyfbThe_Mec: try #linux01:20
The_Mecwell i'm doing it on top of Ubuntu01:21
stevendaleThe_Mec, leftyfb  means ##linux01:21
stevendale#linux is invite-only01:21
The_Mecya i've asked there already. nobody said anything01:22
leftyfbThe_Mec: If you're trying to make your own distribution to the point of compiling your own C library, you are well beyond the scope of this channel01:22
The_Meci'll go somewhere else then01:22
leftyfbThe_Mec: why are you trying to create your own distribution at this level?01:22
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The_Mechttp://www.linuxfromscratch.org/  <--cuz i found a book on how to create your own linux os. and figured i'd try it out01:23
leftyfbThe_Mec: That isn't for the faint of heart and requires a TON of reading and understanding of the linux kernel and filesystem01:24
The_Meci know enough. its just this one library that isnt compiling right.01:25
lotuspsychje!info uck | The_Mec01:25
ubottuThe_Mec: uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 (artful), package size 145 kB, installed size 384 kB01:25
The_Meci'm just gonna check my dependencies first01:25
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Skaface82The_Mec: can I suggest maybe Gentoo if you want to compile everything from source?01:35
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: perhaps not suggest other Os in #ubuntu would be most helpfull01:36
Skaface82i didnt know that was frowned upon, sorry01:37
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: well i think there are cool solutions from the ubuntu point of view dont you think too?01:37
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: unless the user asks himself the support of another Os we can forward to proper chan or !alis01:39
Skaface82I have no idea, I was just suggesting what has worked for me in the past01:39
DrNoNeck_ /nick  DrNoNeck01:39
edwin_hi01:47
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lotuspsychjeGuest6636: welcome, how can we help you?01:48
FaTaL_Ghello all. I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install - I apt-get update/upgrade on 4/1 and sudo rebooted. Now, I get initramfs, telling me cannot mount root, same filesystem, try init args, etc. It is a SSD drive, fsck returns no errors. I can see the files in root and /02:00
dman777I plan on getting a new Ryzen 2 and use LTS. Are there kenrel updates with LTS so I can get future Ryzen 2 features enabled?02:02
stevendaleFaTaL_G, Do you know how to access the GRUB menu during startup to load an older kernel?02:02
FaTaL_GIm googleing of course, and to be honest, not sure where to begin trouble shooting since everything I've found is where people needed to clean their fs. Thats not my issue here, and fstab (although it is irrelevant until boot) is clean and unmodified. Anyone willing to help me dig alittle?02:02
FaTaL_GI know how to access the grub menu02:02
stevendaledman777, Give me a moment and I'll find out if it's supported yet :)02:02
FaTaL_Gbut there arent options for an older one in there. however I could copy one down since Im mounted live atm02:03
dman777stevendale: even if it's not supported yet...what about driver refinements later on for LTS?02:04
stevendaledman777, Ryzen 2 hasn't been released yet, until developers are able to recieve their preorders, I doubt there will be a good featureset in Linux02:05
FaTaL_Gactually stevendale, since Im in live mount atm, I could probably hand enter some, although I havent played in grub202:06
stevendaleYou could also backup files in your home directory and reinstall FaTaL_G o/02:06
dman777stevendale: but if I choose LTS, am I locked into just one kernel version? or do they have kernel updates for lts?02:06
FaTaL_Gtrue, and beleive me, I might, but Im far more interested in solving it02:06
stevendaledman777, LTS will recieve kernel updates, yes02:07
stevendaleYou can also install custom kernels in LTS releases02:07
dman777stevendale: cool, thanks02:07
stevendaleNo problem dman777 :)02:07
FaTaL_GIm using this machine as my main router, been solid for a few months until that update/upgrade/reboot. It ***should not*** have hosed itself, and it wasnt user error, so Im on amission02:07
TJ-FaTaL_G: check it's /var/log/apt/history.log to get an idea if some packages were removed that you weren't expecting02:09
TJ-FaTaL_G: does it have a separate file-system for /boot/ ?02:09
FaTaL_Gits a "router"  machine, and I'm running an i5-8th. I was/am very curious if its sptectre/meltdown related with i802:10
TJ-FaTaL_G: if so, I wonder if it was not mounted at the time, so only one kernel get's installed, a new grub.cfg gets written, but on next boot GRUB won't see that since it's in the rootfs and GRUB is still reading the separate /boot/02:10
FaTaL_GTJ-, no, its default 16.04 recommended options for Ubuntu (I curse accepting the recommendation LOL), and it is brtfs lvm with /root and / on /sda502:11
TJ-FaTaL_G: have you mounted the broken system in a chroot so you can fully explore/fix it?02:11
xromulushello, i am currently having a problem with a usb wifi card. I am using ubuntu 16.04. In journctl I see this as and error but no other errors:02:11
xromuluswpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: wpa_dbus_get_object_properties: failed to get object properties: (none) none02:12
xromulus wpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: Failed to construct signal02:12
xromulusim not sure why this is happening. Initially i thought i was tinkering and messed something up, but this is a freshly installed updated and upgraded ubuntu02:13
TJ-FaTaL_G: btrfs? That's not a recommended install that I've ever seen, especially when using LVM02:13
FaTaL_GTJ-, I'm booted into a live 16.04 destop atm. And I have the filsystem mounted, but before mounting, it checked fine02:13
TJ-FaTaL_G: what directory path is it mounted to?02:13
FaTaL_GTJ- now tht it is mounted, /media/ubuntu/786685895865575r875r (twoof them, one for root, one for /)02:14
TJ-FaTaL_G: ok, so mounted by udisks. I'd recommend unmounting that from the GUI then doing "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /target"02:16
lotuspsychjexromulus: can you check wich chipset your card is?02:17
TJ-FaTaL_G: then, assuming the rootfs is now showing up correct under /target/ you can prepare for a chroot with "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"02:17
TJ-FaTaL_G: and then "chroot /target /bin/bash" and you're inside it and can use commands to repair it. "exit" to leave the chroot02:17
FaTaL_GTJ-, what specifically might I be looking for (package type) in history......02:18
FaTaL_GTJ-, why chroot it unless I have something to test on it?02:19
TJ-FaTaL_G: just generally seeing if there's signs that linux-image-* packages were removed, which would explain why the older kernels are still installed. Also, if you're in the chroot you can do "apt list linux-image-* --installed" to find out what *should* be installed02:19
TJ-FaTaL_G: chroot means you're working in the broken OS02:19
xromuluslotuspsychje: lsusb says: Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter02:19
xromulusis that the correct information?02:20
FaTaL_GTJ-, meaning, if it IS broken, even though it tells me it is not, wouldnt running commands on it with it mounted hose it?02:20
TJ-FaTaL_G: no02:20
FaTaL_GTJ-, alright, I'll give it a shot. Any idea on what package to look for btw in history?02:20
lotuspsychjexromulus: yeah tnx, is your system up to date to latest?02:21
TJ-FaTaL_G: if apt reports those linux-image-* packages are installed but the associated /boot/vmlinuz-* file is missing, then that tells you the file-system has been messed up, for example02:21
xromuluslotuspsychje: fresh install and full update and upgrade02:21
FaTaL_GTJ-, I have zabbix, libraw1, lshw, plymouth*02:21
TJ-FaTaL_G: usually at least 3 kernels should remain installed for example, so if there are not 3 /boot/vmlinuz_* but "apt list ..." shows 3 versions installed, then you've got a bug clue02:22
FaTaL_Gahaa, good to know. although not sure I ever saw >202:22
FaTaL_Gthis was a server release02:22
TJ-FaTaL_G: where are you seeing zabbix, libraw1, etc ? not in the root of the mounted rootfs?02:23
stevendaleBrb02:23
lotuspsychjexromulus: linux-firmware installed?02:24
tgouldhi all, i have ubuntu installed on a 2011 macbook, and plugging my external display into the mini-displayport doesn't seem to be working. wondering if anybody could lend me a hand with troubleshooting.02:25
FaTaL_GTJ-, in the apt history02:26
tgouldi'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though02:26
xromuluslotuspsychje: "linux-firmware is already the newest version (1.157.17)."02:26
TJ-FaTaL_G: oh, so nothing relevant to kernel/initrd issues then02:26
FaTaL_GTJ-, I didnt see a new kernel02:26
FaTaL_GTJ-, nope02:26
lotuspsychjexromulus: how about driver version at bottom on: sudo lshw -C network ?02:26
FaTaL_GTJ-, or grub for that matter02:27
TJ-FaTaL_G: so check which /boot/vmlinuz-*  files are present and compare with what 'apt list ...' shows02:27
FaTaL_GTJ-, I'll looka t a few of the previous ones, just in case. since I dont reboot everytime02:27
TJ-tgould: usually, if a new output is detected "xrandr -q" should show it even if it's not in use02:27
FaTaL_GTJ- I ahve to wait until Im ch'd for that right?02:28
TJ-FaTaL_G: for the 'apt' command yes, but not just to list its /boot/ directory02:28
tgouldi'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though02:29
tgouldyikes, sorry for the double post ^02:29
TJ-FaTaL_G: /boot/ should have a matching initrd.img for each vmlinuz to start with. That's the first check. The next is to check /etc/fstab has the correct entry for the root file-system (since that gets copied into the initrd.img). From a chroot, you can also rebuild the initrd.img with "update-initramfs -vu"02:30
xromuluslotuspsychje: driver=rt2800usb driverversion=4.13.0-38-generic02:30
xromulusbrb02:32
FaTaL_GTJ-, well, there is a initrd-img 4.3.13.0-32-generic, dated the date all hell broke loose02:32
FaTaL_Gthere's also an old-dkms same name, diff size02:33
xromuluslotuspsychje: thank for helping.. i have to run to the store real quick ill be back in 1502:33
lotuspsychjexromulus: allright mate02:33
FaTaL_Gmy bad, file was -36, not 32, 32 was from feb02:33
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FaTaL_GTJ-, so the vmlinusz files are 0-32 and 0-36 and edited last back in feb, however the 0-36 initrd.img 0-36 was edited the day I rebooted, is this kosher or suspect?02:38
TJ-FaTaL_G: well, some packages cause the initrd to be regenerated, but it suggests when that happened the info about the rootfs that was added is incorrect, so you need to check the /etc/fstab is correct, and if not correct it, then do a "chroot /target /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -vu"02:42
FaTaL_Gyikes02:43
FaTaL_G"aufs / aufs rw 0 0" & "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0"02:43
TJ-FaTaL_G: are you looking that the /etc/fstab of the *live* ISO, or inside the broken OS? (under /target/ as in /target/etc/fstab)02:44
FaTaL_GI havent edited fstab on a lvm system before, so not sure what it should look like, but that looks lame02:44
TJ-LVM is just another block device like a partition02:44
FaTaL_GIthought it was mounted one, but I must have used /, newb02:45
TJ-There is a file-system in a Logical Volume02:45
tgouldTJ-, "xrandr -q" only shows my laptop's built-in display. I also see nothing in "udevadm monitor" when I unplug and replug the device. I think the port itself may be broken -- is there a good way to confirm this?02:45
dell00Hello?02:47
FaTaL_GTJ-, of, the real fstab: "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1" and a comment for boot was on dev/sda1, and a "UUID=565789765467 /boot" (looks right) and a dev/mapper for swap02:47
FaTaL_Glooks ok?02:47
TJ-tgould: on a Mac, I'm not sure. Would an external DP monitor be expected to be active if you enter the firmware setup at boot time? That's be 1 way to prove whether it works02:47
TJ-FaTaL_G: wooooaaa!02:47
TJ-FaTaL_G:  "UUID=565789765467 /boot"  says 2 things: 1) there's a separate /boot/ file-system  and 2) is UUID=565789765467 the full UUID or did you just type random characteres?02:48
FaTaL_GI typed random ;)02:49
TJ-FaTaL_G: Grrr!02:49
FaTaL_Git mathces what was mounted by the auto moount lie cd under media02:49
TJ-FaTaL_G: OK, so, the 1st thing to check is that file-system has free space remaining - a common problem is /boot/ running out of space02:49
FaTaL_Gstill an issue these days huh?02:50
TJ-FaTaL_G: have you configured the chroot yet ?02:50
FaTaL_Gno. beed anges since I've done that. Got a link I can follow or something to google for?02:50
TJ-FaTaL_G: do it now: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root /target"02:51
FaTaL_GI have that alread02:51
FaTaL_Gthats how I told you what was in fstab02:51
TJ-FaTaL_G: did you bind-mount proc sys dev ... etc ?02:51
FaTaL_Gno?02:51
FaTaL_GI've chrooted like 2 times in my life haha02:52
TJ-FaTaL_G: prepare it for chroot with  "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"02:52
FaTaL_Gthe /target/$n sould be /mnt/target/$n right?02:54
TJ-Err, no, not if you used the commands  I gave earlier02:54
FaTaL_GI had mounted it as /mnt/target-root/, just checking02:55
FaTaL_GTJ-, tells me the mount for resolv.conf is a mount to nowhere02:57
TJ-once you've done that you can enter it with "sudo chroot /mnt/target-root" ... then do "mount -a" so it automounts the entries in it's fstab, then do "df -h" to check if /boot/ has free space02:58
FaTaL_GTJ-, well, resolv.conf isnt there02:58
FaTaL_Gthere is resov.conf.d/ dir02:59
TJ-FaTaL_G: OK, don't worrry about that one, it's used to give the chroot DNS resolution02:59
TJ-We do that so the chroot can send logs to pastebin02:59
FaTaL_Grgr02:59
FaTaL_GTJ-, df -h gave me no worries03:01
FaTaL_Gall <35%03:01
TJ-FaTaL_G: right, so some choices here. 1) regenerate the initrd.img files and then reboot to test - if that doesn't solve it you've got to do the LiveISO boot again 2) explore but I'm not too sure what we can look for since you've verified fstab03:02
FaTaL_Gmapper root is 102G (SSD drive is 128 all for linux), udev is 3.8, and sda1 (boot) is 472MB  with 201MB free03:02
TJ-FaTaL_G: you could extract the current initrd.img and look at it's content to find out what the rootfs is set to03:03
FaTaL_Gtarball extract to a location?03:03
FaTaL_Ggiven that it has a 4/2 date, its a late april fools joke by ubuntu? j/k... sure, Im interested in looking and even moreso how to regenerate it03:04
FaTaL_Gmaybe then I can go post to some of the forums that only indicated fsck that "if fsck is clean, do this...." to verify....03:05
FaTaL_Gwhat do you recommend I lok at while Im in the chroot env?03:06
TJ-FaTaL_G: indentify the most recent version "ls -latr /boot/vmlinuz-*"03:07
FaTaL_Git just shows me the two entries I told you about, 4.13.0-32 & 3603:08
FaTaL_G36 date is 2/1603:08
TJ-FaTaL_G: OK, so: "mkdir -p /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/initrd" then "gunzip /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id"03:11
TJ-FaTaL_G: that should extract the files; use "ls -l" to check you see a minimal root file-system layout with bin/ conf/ lib/ and several other directories03:12
FaTaL_Gbtw...03:13
FaTaL_Gwhen I tried "e" in grub, and selecte the 0.32 file instead of the 0.36 I was getting the same dump out to initeamfs03:13
TJ-FaTaL_G: I'm wondering if you managed to remove the lvm tooling somehow. That's what we need to check once you've extracted the files03:14
FaTaL_Gpremature end of archive from cpio, is that expected?03:15
TJ-FaTaL_G: no; that means it may not the gzip compressed. Find what kind the file is with "file /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic"03:16
TJ-s/may not the/may not be/03:16
FaTaL_GASCII cpio archive SVR403:17
FaTaL_Glove the regex03:17
TJ-that's interesting, it's not compressed03:18
FaTaL_GASCII cpio archive SVR4 with no CRC <--- even03:18
TJ-FaTaL_G: OK, so:  "cat /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id"03:18
FaTaL_G194 blocks03:19
TJ-good, so "ls -l" you should see the directories and files03:20
FaTaL_Gvia ..kernel/x86/microcode/GenuineIntel.bin03:21
FaTaL_Gand this is dated 4/14, go figure03:21
FaTaL_Gthe date of the file inside is newer tahn the "archive"03:21
TJ-FaTaL_G: oh shoot! the initrd has microcode prefix so we can't easily extract the real initrd files03:22
FaTaL_Gignore my stupid date comment hhahahaha03:22
TJ-I have a script that can unpack that, but your chroot didn't get DNS so can't easily wget it03:22
FaTaL_Gwe;;03:23
FaTaL_Gwell....03:23
FaTaL_GI can save it, and regen, then look inside after reboot03:23
TJ-don't need to.03:23
TJ-type "exit" to leave the chroot03:23
FaTaL_Glol true03:23
FaTaL_Gits on the fs haha03:23
TJ-now do "sudo wget -O /mnt/target-root/initrd-extract.bash  http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/initrd-extract.bash"03:25
TJ-this fetches the script and puts it inside the chroot so you will be able to use it03:25
xromuluslotuspsychje: I'm back. so what do you think?03:26
FaTaL_Gno-ip ;)03:28
FaTaL_GIm back in ch03:28
lotuspsychjexromulus: its always a pain to get those ralinks to work03:29
lotuspsychjexromulus: TJ- helped me once on those ralink chipset, cant recall what we did03:29
lotuspsychjexromulus: you sure you updated to .4 yeah?03:30
TJ-FaTaL_G: did you wget the file first before re-entering ?03:30
xromuluslotuspsychje: what's weird is it totally worked for a while. months even. but it just randomly acts strange03:30
FaTaL_Gofc03:30
xromuluslotuspsychje: .4?03:30
FaTaL_Gyea, im in/ ch. and reading the bash contents03:30
FaTaL_G$103:30
TJ-FaTaL_G: It's way past my bed-time, I'm going to have to leave now. Hopefully someone else can help.03:30
lotuspsychjexromulus: 16.04.403:30
TJ-FaTaL_G: "cd /tmp/initrd; bash /initrd-extract.bash /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic"03:31
lotuspsychjexromulus: lsb_release -a to check03:32
FaTaL_Gwell tyvm for the help then. This has been educational. I can always wait to proceed and pickup when I see you here next. But I'll dig carefully in the meantime03:32
TJ-FaTaL_G: then you'll have a new directory 4.13.0-36-generic/ inside of which is the extracted initrd files03:32
xromuluslotuspsychje: im using linux mint 18.3 but I was using the latest ubuntu with the same problem03:33
TJ-FaTaL_G: so "/tmp/initrd/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic" then do "find . -name '*lvm*'  " --- that should report around 11 files related to LVM. If not, lvm is likely missing and that would explain the failure.03:33
stevendaleDescription:Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 (stretch)03:33
stevendaleo/03:33
TJ-FaTaL_G: to rebuild the initrd.img: "update-initramfs -u"03:33
lotuspsychjexromulus: we can only support you on vanilla ubuntu03:33
xromulusok :(03:34
FaTaL_Gok, ty03:34
lotuspsychjexromulus: try different kernels too?03:34
xromulusit used to work.. i actually think an update may have caused the issue03:34
TJ-FaTaL_G: if on a reboot it drops to the busybox shell again, then do some exploring. First thing to do is see if the LVM devices have been opened by doing "ls /dev/mapper/" - the rootfs name should be there "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root " ... if not, try "lvm vgchange -ay" and check again03:36
TJ-FaTaL_G: once that has shown up doing "Ctrl+D" to resume the init process should get the system to boot03:37
FaTaL_G9 files03:37
FaTaL_Gok will do, gn & ty03:38
TJ-FaTaL_G: here I see 4 scripts, 2 lib, 4 etc and 1 sbin03:38
FaTaL_G4 scripts, 2 etc, 2 lib03:38
baba_is bionic any good03:39
FaTaL_G1 sbin03:39
TJ-FaTaL_G: that's about right, so nothing to worry about. I've got a different config03:40
TJ-FaTaL_G: so, I think regen the initrd and try a reboot03:40
TJ-"update-initramfs -u"03:40
TJ-FaTaL_G: oh! one last check ensure the rootfs is set correctly in grub. "update-grub" too03:41
FaTaL_Galready rebooted03:42
FaTaL_Gahhaha03:42
FaTaL_Gbut will have to go back in if it doesnt work03:42
FaTaL_Gsame thing03:43
FaTaL_Gright back to initramfs03:44
TJ-is /dev/mapper/ empty?03:45
TJ-well, there should be "control" node in there03:45
TJ-FaTaL_G: you should be seeing TARDIS--vg-root03:46
TJ-also confirm that is on the kernel command-line: "cat /proc/cmdline"03:46
TJ-it should show "root=/dev/mapper//dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root "03:46
TJ-oops, no03:47
TJ-it should show "root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root "03:47
FaTaL_Gdev mapper has TARDIS--vg-swap_1 -> ../dm-003:50
FaTaL_Gand control03:50
FaTaL_Gno root03:50
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FaTaL_Gcat /proc/cmdline is two diamonds03:51
TJ-FaTaL_G: whuh?03:53
TJ-no wonder!03:54
FaTaL_Gyea really03:54
FaTaL_Gcat proc/cmdline shows two diamonds03:54
FaTaL_Ghigh ascii03:54
TJ-so,  that "update-grub"  would have fixed it, or should have03:54
TJ-let me check in the /init script if you can do a temporary workaround to make it boot now03:55
redoasispraise the tech gods . data has been recovered03:55
FaTaL_Ggrats redoasis?03:55
redoasisyessss03:55
FaTaL_Gwould update grun need valid dns? I can set it up the hard way ;)03:56
iehusha591Anybody Have Anything on Editing in An Hotkey For U+2E41) to Make Viz [Cntrl] , Enter Reversed (⹁)03:56
TJ-FaTaL_G: this may work: "/init root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root"03:57
TJ-FaTaL_G: update-grub doesn't need network, it reads the kernels in /boot/ and the /etc/fstab entry, and builds /boot/grub/grub.cfg03:57
FaTaL_Gone thing tho03:58
FaTaL_Gwhen I told you what was in /dev/mapper, it was swap, the root wasnt there03:58
TJ-FaTaL_G: oh, didn't spot that!03:59
TJ-I read 1 of my own lines by mistake03:59
USERNAME00How can I get info on what kind of trackpad i'm using?03:59
FaTaL_Gbut we know root is there/good, lol, we mounted it live03:59
TJ-FaTaL_G: try "lvm vgchange -ay"03:59
TJ-FaTaL_G: then check in /dev/mapper/ again04:00
FaTaL_Gsocket connect failed: no such file or dir failed to connect to lvmetad04:00
FaTaL_Gfalling back to internal scanning04:01
TJ-That's expecting when in the initrd04:01
TJ-lvmmeta daemon only starts when the real init and root-fs are active04:01
FaTaL_Gwell... now its hung or something04:01
TJ-that's informative ... it must be trying and failing to activate root04:02
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TJ-FaTaL_G: if/when it it returns to the shell, try running it with debug enabled: "lvm vgchange -d -ay"04:03
TJ-"-ay" means Activate Yes04:03
FaTaL_Ggparted had it marked active in live disk04:04
FaTaL_GI didnt change anything there at all. Just looked :)04:04
FaTaL_Git seems hung. I mean, its an i5 machine and a ssd, so this isnt rocket science to scan for a partition ahhaha04:05
FaTaL_GI dont want to keep you up, I appreciate all that you've done this far. I'll continue to dig and learn04:05
TJ-If vgchange has hung that's a major problem, and points to something more serious, especailly as you regenerated the initrd.img04:08
TJ-we can't blame corruption inside the initrd.img04:08
TJ-the corrupted /proc/cmdline is also a big problem.04:09
TJ-combined, I wonder if something is failing in the PC, or not performing correctly. Overheating possibly. Has it's fans and air vents been cleaned and checked recently?04:09
FaTaL_Gits brand new... relatively speaking04:10
FaTaL_Gits an 8th gen cpu04:11
FaTaL_Gthus, new hardware all around, purchased in Jan04:11
FaTaL_Gvery clean machine, and while running in live mode, no issues in performance04:11
TJ-the corrupted /proc/cmdline makes me think of RAM module problems; reboot it and do a memtest on it (from GRUB menu)04:12
TJ-I don't think this is a 'simple' software/file installation issue, it feels like something more04:12
FaTaL_Ghmmmmm04:13
TJ-and with that I'm off to bed, it's gone 5aM!04:13
FaTaL_GI uninstalled gnome a week before I rebooted....04:13
FaTaL_Gnot sure if I rebooted then, but ok. Thank you04:14
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Keon_MYquit05:05
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FaTaL_GTJ- was awesome & thanks stevendale for also offering to help. After rebuilding grub, its working05:15
stevendaleHey FaTaL_G :)05:16
mattyO.o what did you buikd?05:17
mattybuild*05:17
FaTaL_Grepaired'05:17
stevendaleIt wasn't my area of expertise, but I tried to help anyway FaTaL_G, you're welcome, thanks for taking over what I couldn't handle TJ-05:17
FaTaL_Ghe signed off05:18
FaTaL_GIm going to thank him tom assuming he'll be back05:18
FaTaL_Gmatty: a homebrew router, running 16.04 LTS05:18
FaTaL_Gserver05:18
mattyFaTaL_G, thats pretty rad. You use a micro box or tower/server shell?05:19
mattyMy girl was just recently talking about taking on such a project05:19
FaTaL_GI went all out. Considered an alibaba type solution, but after reading mixed reviews in general, decided I'd go with something that was a workhorse for my fios05:20
mattyWe have a dual core (2.ghz) w/ 4GB of ram just sitting around and about 4 routers throughout the house lol05:20
mattyfios...*drools*05:20
FaTaL_Gi5-8th, 16g mem, and an ssd drive05:21
mattya bit overkill for a router no?05:21
mattylol05:21
FaTaL_Ggot a nice asrock mobo05:21
FaTaL_Gyep!\05:21
FaTaL_Gjust a bit05:21
mattythats what up, how many nic cards did you use in it?05:21
FaTaL_Ghowever05:21
FaTaL_GIm still a bit annoyed, but its more about me learning05:22
FaTaL_Gthe hardware I have is authentic, but getting 1gb was not happening05:22
FaTaL_Gand with 1 load on my betgear it would05:22
FaTaL_Gbut the netgears are .... well, .... incinsistent05:22
mattyhell yeah they are05:22
FaTaL_G-i +o05:22
FaTaL_Gmy R7000 is better than my R850005:23
FaTaL_GI could get 934Mbps up and down SOMETIMES05:23
mattyWe are kind of in the same situation. Lots of house to cover and lots of devices and of the shelf hardware wont cut it but some of the higher end routers are too pricy for the little bit of work they do05:23
mattyRather build one out myself05:23
FaTaL_Gbut with the ubuntu router I get 780's.... So I still need to optimize, tune, and find out where it is choking05:24
FaTaL_Gagreed05:24
FaTaL_Gwith the[rice of the R900005:24
FaTaL_Gand the fact that it still sucks....05:24
AJ2Can anyone reccomend a good email client?05:24
mattyThats pretty cool man, good for you. My girl use to build clusters (since moved on) for gov entities and companies'05:24
mattySo shes looking for a project we can both hop on. Router seemd to fit the bil05:25
mattyAbout how many hours did you put in it from start to "thi'll do for now"05:25
FaTaL_Gwent with a deny iptables, and put on a number of ips/ids etc, and kept them off to see max throughput05:26
FaTaL_Gso was sad it wasnt the 934Mbps at all, when I expected it to be 100%05:26
FaTaL_Ghard to give an honest answer05:27
mattySounds like youre at the point where you need to doublecheck your hardware05:27
FaTaL_GI read a ton on web forums of others trials and tribulations05:27
FaTaL_Gand I was insistent on including wireless built in05:27
mattyhell yeah, we wont do it without wireless05:27
mattygood call on that05:27
FaTaL_GI went ASUS PCI-88U05:27
FaTaL_Gmost advice was and still is to use a router for that05:28
FaTaL_Gand just dedicate a port on the pc for the wired link to the rest05:28
FaTaL_Gthe linux support/availability for quality wireless with hotspot capability is, light05:29
FaTaL_Ghell, station like cards are hard to find05:29
mattyLight...thats being nice05:29
mattyAlways has been and always will be05:29
FaTaL_Ghttps://www.asus.com/us/Networking/PCE-AC88/05:30
FaTaL_GIm happy with that, but getting it running right on ubuntu was no walk in the aprk05:30
mattyoh...thats special05:30
mattyno 5GHZ?05:30
FaTaL_Gyes it is05:30
FaTaL_Gits 4x4, mumimo05:31
FaTaL_GDual-band 4x4 AC3100 Wifi with speeds up to 2100Mbps (5GHz band) and 1000Mbps (2.4GHz band)05:31
mattyGot ya, i read that wrong05:31
mattyYou plan on doing any writeups about it?05:31
mattyLove to see the struggle that you went through05:31
FaTaL_Gprobably... still on the adventure. Taken notes, bookmarked pages, done a few assembly videos05:32
mattyOnly for future reference. I may have spoke too soon to my girl about jumping on that. Im sure she can bang it out but shed be kind enough to struggle with me lol.05:32
mattySo any input I can harvest prior to it would be great!05:32
FaTaL_Glike I said, I went all out, I put it in a case, a real one, after hours of scouring for something sleek... decided scew it05:32
FaTaL_Gon the simple side of things, just lock down iptables, and setup bind/dns/hostapd05:34
FaTaL_Garstechnica has a good writeup to get you barebones there05:35
FaTaL_Gbut it needed more for iptables05:35
wigginsI am compiling & installing from source for the first time. I usually have stuck with .deb files to install, but I'm learning. I want to install GIMP 2.10.0 parallel to my 2.8.22 version. The README says I have to "choose a separate prefix which is not in your default library search05:58
wigginspath.' I sort of understand what this means, but I do not know how to do such. Does anyone have the patience this late to guide me thru this process so I don't screw up my 2.8.x versions, but can use some of the features in the new 2.10.0 version?05:58
FaTaL_Gback, with the router in play05:59
FaTaL_GI just flashed the r8500 (stock, always been stock) and its not booting haha06:00
akikwiggins: it means that you use --prefix=path for configure06:00
wigginsakik, does this mean I could use something like "./install --prefix=/usr/lib2" that I make up?06:01
akikwiggins: make install uses the path you set earlier with configure06:02
wigginsakik There is no configure in the GIMP tarball06:02
akikwiggins: does it have autogen.sh?06:03
wigginsoh duh there IS a configure....06:03
wiggins./config06:03
wigginsakik:   "configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.40.1 or later."  After I install intltool 0.40.1 or later, do I set the path with ./configure --path=user/new_created_dir?06:05
akikwiggins: there are variables you can use to find the libs or it's an option for configure06:06
wigginsakik: Here is a listing of everything in the extracted directory. I am not sure what I need to do to alter the default config so I dont fubar my 2.8.x version.  https://hastebin.com/oruluyenah.diff06:11
akikwiggins: just don't set the --prefix=/usr or anything related to the system dirs06:13
mojtabaHello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost06:13
akikwiggins: /opt or /usr/local are used usually06:13
mojtabaBut it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?06:13
akikwiggins: you should read a guide on compiling06:14
wigginshttps://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/06:14
wigginsit leaves me with questions.06:14
wigginsakik, is this path going to be a line in the config file that I alter then save the file?06:16
akikwiggins: no, it's an option for configure06:16
quidnuncHow do I change the display manager06:18
quidnunc?06:18
wigginsakik: so I could use ./configure --path="/home/wiggins/expiremental"  (assuming those dirs existed) and it would be ok?06:19
akikwiggins: yes06:20
akikwiggins: but the option is --prefix06:20
wigginsinstead of path.06:20
akikwiggins: that guide didn't mention it? read another guide06:21
wigginsit was very basic.06:21
wigginsakik when the final release is finally out, I will be able to make uninstall and everything will work as one would expect?06:22
akikwiggins: yes. if you set the --prefix to a path in /opt or /usr/local or /home06:23
wigginsakik, can i use a subdirectory in home and your last statement still be true?06:24
wigginsakik, i.e., /home/wiggins/something/ ?06:24
akikwiggins: yes06:24
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wigginsakik If I get an error at the "./config --prefix=/home/wiggins/whatever" stage, can I just remove the whole extracted package, and no harm, no foul? Or am I going to leave a bunch of garbage polluting up my drive?06:33
ducassewiggins: nothing will be copied to other locations in your fs until you do 'make install'06:36
wigginsducasse and akik: This has proven something I don't want to get into at 1:30 AM on a box I use every day. I have another Ubuntu box I can play on that I could hook up tomorrow, but I've come to rely on this machine too much to mess stuff up.06:38
wigginsducasse and akik: Originally the whole "Ubuntu" thing was an expirement to rid myself of Windows, but only as a curiosity. I haven't touched Windows now in 2 years.06:39
wigginsducasse: What began as a curiosity/tinkering project blossomed into something I use and depend on every day. I'm anxious to learn more.06:40
ducassewiggins: one thing you can consider is to use containers for this sort of thing. build inside a container, if you mess something up you can just destroy it and start a new one06:40
ducasse(or virtual machines, but they demand more resources)06:42
wigginsducasse: I think akik was right, I need to read more about installing from source rather than depend on that short jump-start guide at https://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/06:42
wigginsI appreciate your help tonight, akik and ducasse. I'm getting off of Freenode now. I'm sure I'll be back!!06:45
akikwiggins: it's configure, not config06:45
ducassewiggins: that's a good attitude - read up and good luck :)06:45
wiggins"By doing, learn."06:45
firefoxwhat does -u do07:01
slidinghornfirefox: for what command?  what are you trying to do?07:02
firefoxsudo -u postgres psql07:02
hggdhfirefox: runs the command as the user following -u. See 'man sudo' for details07:03
firefoxi see07:07
firefoxdo you any of you know what postgres psql actually does? is it just like a sql CLI that allows you to edit your db?07:07
ducassefirefox: 'postgres' is the user, 'psql' is the command. see 'man psql' for information on what it is and how it works07:09
firefoxk thanks07:10
ozberkhi people is there any tweaking tool for ubuntu 17? I really don't like the interface07:18
ducasseozberk: you can choose another one, there are several07:19
ozberkducasse: I don't want to change my DE. Just want to tweak it07:23
ducasseozberk: there is gnome-tweak-tool, i've never used it07:24
BrekUsing Arch, I can install and update proprietary software using AUR Helper via a command only. Currently using ubuntu, I install proprietary software from their website and update them manually. Is there an easy way to do so in ubuntu just like arch?07:30
ducasseBrek: there might be a repository available, like a ppa07:31
ducasse!ppa07:31
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:31
ducassemany projects provide their own repos07:31
Brekbut no07:32
BrekI dont like PPA. its insecure07:32
Brek:(07:32
ozberkI^ve got a noobster question how can I install a tar.gz theme07:32
explodesHello! Working with c++17, and the <optional> include does not work. Looks like it is still under experimental on my machine. What gives?!07:33
ducasseBrek: see if the project has a repo, then07:34
Brekthats sad07:34
Brekits  nowhere near as easy as AUR07:34
Brek:(07:34
Brekto install a software I have to manually look for it07:35
Brekand add its repo07:35
Brektoo much of work for a single package07:35
ducasselife is hard07:35
ozberkBrek, Sad fact but I agree. We need more applications packaged with snap07:36
BrekI am missing arch linux's AUR now07:36
Brekjust one command away to install any software you want and update07:36
ozberkBrek, Yet there is a good side about apt. Somewhere I've red apt repository system is a little bit safer then AUR. Ceartainly some applications in AUR may break your system07:39
Brekozberk: by snap you mean ubuntu repo right?07:39
ozberkBrek, Nope. Snap is a new packaging system works on nearly any distro as far as I know. Ubuntu software center supports it now. It is much easier to install snap packages07:40
Brekwell07:41
ducasseBrek: snaps are separate from the apt repos, see 'man snap'07:41
Brekok. but it takes from repo07:41
BrekI see07:41
Brekwill check out snap07:41
Brekthanks ducasse and ozberk07:41
ozberkBrek, And there is another packaging system rising called Flatpak which is a web based intallation system07:41
Brekstill I doubt it has as many packages as AUR07:41
BrekI see07:41
ozberkBrek, Arch is a rolling release. Arch users always get newest software out there with newest bugs and security leaks to find07:42
Brekyea I know07:43
ozberkBrek, I used Arch, Manjaro and Antegros. Manjaro was my bae07:43
Brekozberk: now what do youuse currently07:43
ozberkBrek, Ubuntu since nothing else supports my GTX950M07:43
Brekmissing arch?07:43
ozberkBrek, Depends. Back in those days I was thinking it is good to travel between distros. So much to learn and use. Today I'm thinking it is good to stay whatever brings me less trouble07:44
Brekhaha true07:45
Breksamehere07:45
BrekI want to get  work done07:45
Brekrather thantinkering withmy OS07:45
ozberkBrek, We are not software developers or coders for me I'm a writer and a new graduated student07:46
cfhowlettBrek, then install and use LTS releases07:46
Brekbut I miss AUR07:47
Brek:(07:47
ozberkhe missed too much and left :(07:47
ozberkhey is there any ubottu commands here to give a song to someone.07:48
ducasseno, why would there be?07:49
ozberkducasse, I wanted to offer a song to Brek "Sad But True - Metallica" for a joke07:52
cfhowlettozberk, we don't give songs.  we do give !cookie    however07:53
mooncakehexchathi all am trying to download list (ubuntu + hexchat) download keeps failing can anyone help please-dont know where to start07:54
cfhowlett!cookie | ozberk07:54
ubottuozberk: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!07:54
mooncakehexchatfrom within hexchat07:54
cfhowlettmooncakehexchat, wait, what? what are you downloading via hexchat?07:55
ozberkmooncakehexchat, Shocked by now did you hacked someone or are you just trolling us07:56
mooncakehexchata list of books txt07:58
XXCodermooncakehexchat: channels list?07:58
cfhowlett!alis | XXCoder sounds like you need to learn alis.  try it.07:58
ubottuXXCoder sounds like you need to learn alis.  try it.: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"07:58
XXCoderlol ok07:59
XXCoderwasnt asking for help myself :P07:59
mooncakehexchatno a list of books "1945 Orwell" sent to a bot and a file (txt) file comes back to me to download i07:59
cfhowlettthat makes this even more suspect07:59
ducassemooncakehexchat: it's against channel rules to help you download pirated material07:59
cfhowlettmooncakehexchat, not an ubuntu irc command.  and ^^^07:59
XXCoderI know of such, and its illegal07:59
eury_I'm watching a movie and this blank screen keep occurring as if i were locked the pc.08:00
mooncakehexchatits out of cpyright08:00
cfhowlett!piracy | is very much frowned upon here and that is not an ubuntu irc command in any case08:00
ubottuis very much frowned upon here and that is not an ubuntu irc command in any case: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o08:00
eury_I'm watching a movie and this blank screen keep occurring as if i were locked the pc.08:01
mooncakehexchatwhere bouts shalls i take it08:01
XXCodereury_: moving mouse sometimes?08:01
cfhowlettmooncakehexchat, use alis and search08:01
ozberkfow some reason I love wine08:02
eury_<XXCoder> moving mouse? mouse is idle.08:02
mooncakehexchatlols chill out08:02
ducasseeury_: you can try a program called 'caffeine'08:05
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chandyshothello08:35
cfhowlettgreetings.  ask the ubuntu question08:35
ozberk!cookie| cfhowlett08:43
ubottucfhowlett: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!08:43
ozberkwow that worked08:43
cfhowlettbut of course ...08:43
cfhowlettwe used to have one for beer, but sadly it was decommissioned08:43
ozberk:(08:45
ozberkwe should one for the songs (just by names not files ofc)08:47
ozberkwe should use one*08:47
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serizawahi09:33
mooncakehexchatyo09:41
mooncakehexchat%c09:42
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sdcchow do i see if a port is open in ubuntu10:21
akiksdx23: you can use "nc -v host port"10:39
gintHi..10:41
CoolerZi am having some trouble10:43
CoolerZglib.h is missing10:43
CoolerZseveral askubuntu threads suggesting that i install libgtk2.0.0-dev version10:43
CoolerZbut that doesn't show up when i do apt list10:43
qiang?。。10:46
akikCoolerZ: libgtk2.0-dev10:46
cfhowlett!cn | qiang10:46
ubottuqiang: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:46
CoolerZakik, it doesn't show in apt list10:46
akikCoolerZ: you got the name wrong10:47
CoolerZakik, what?10:47
akikCoolerZ: it's libgtk2.0-dev10:47
CoolerZok now its showing up10:48
CoolerZafter i did a sudo apt-get update10:48
akikCoolerZ: you wrote libgtk2.0.0-dev, the name is libgtk2.0-dev10:48
CoolerZakik, no i tried both10:49
akikgood10:49
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goatiaHi all, want to know if it is possible to install UbuntuStudio along side Ubuntu 17.10 and Linux Mint?10:51
cfhowlettyes10:54
cfhowlettbut there are easier ways10:54
goatiahow is that, please tell?10:55
cfhowlette.g. I have a Mac Air.  I only use MacOS to boot up virtualbox where my ubuntustudio lives.  98% of the time, I go to US directly.  Once or twice a year, I may boot win7 in an alternate VBox on MacOS10:55
cfhowlettUnless you are actually using multiple OS's regularly, it's saner to streamline.  How much *nix do you need?10:56
mojtabaHello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost But it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?10:58
mojtabaI have tried ssh -R 2210:localhost:22 root@IP, and then on the remote machine ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost connects without any problem.10:58
lotuspsychjemojtaba: perhaps a question for #openssh ?11:00
mojtabalotuspsychje: Ok, thanks11:00
goatiaMy situation is I use UbuntuStio constantly, I like the mint for business purposes and ubuntu 17.10 for mere entertainment. I have a 2TB drive where I have partitioned it in half and formatted 1TB for file storage (NTFS), the other is allocated for the OS. Problem is when installing Studio it wants to overight Ubunto 17.10, and I dont want that11:02
cfhowlettwait you already have ubuntu, goatia?11:02
lotuspsychjegoatia: 3 Os for 1 life bit overkill no?11:03
cfhowlettthen you do NOT want to install ubuntu studio.  just add the ubuntustudio metapackages to ubuntu.  at bootup, choose your xfce4/xubuntu session for the ubuntustdio experience or the unity session for ubuntu.  OR ...11:03
cfhowlettyou could just install the parts of ubuntustudio that you'll actually use, i.e. graphics, audio production etc.11:04
goatiaI figured, but once installed, how do I change the desktop enviroment?11:04
tomreynlogout, choose DE, login11:05
cfhowlettlogout.  click the gear icon to select a session, login11:05
lotuspsychjegoatia: or make your life easy and use 1 ubuntu LTS and install studio packages like cfhowlett suggested on it, loose mint11:06
cfhowlettexactomundo!11:06
cfhowlettpretty sure you can use ubuntu for work ... checks ... yep. office suites confirmed!11:06
goatiaThanks man, let me try that, I did not think of the sessions, too much thinking made my brain cloudy :)11:07
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: bionic new wallpapers are in :p11:09
cfhowlettnice, but I've evolved beyond the christmas morning syndrome, so I can wait for the .1 release.11:10
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: sure mate, just letting you know as you like art preview here: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/13/ubuntu-desktop-weekly-update-13-april-201811:11
cfhowlettnice design for sure.11:12
cfhowlettand it's a snap!?  I might just test it11:12
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: the new community theme is yeah11:13
YujinSAttempting to install ubuntu on SurfacePro4, running into a black screen after the grub menu. What can I do?11:28
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cfhowlett!nomodeset | YujinS leaps to mind11:29
ubottuYujinS leaps to mind: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:29
YujinSI have tried doing that, but nomodeset does not work. Same result--blackscreen11:31
cfhowlettsurfacepro and pad installations in general are finicky.11:31
EriC^^YujinS: did you remove 'quiet splash' ?11:32
YujinSyeah, i deleted quiet slash and replaced with nomodeset11:32
YujinSI've been going through countless forums and I can't seem to find anything useful11:33
akikYujinS: try adding vga=0 if that helps11:34
YujinSafter nomodeset?11:34
akikYujinS: yes11:34
YujinSalright, I will try that and see what happens. thanks for the help11:35
f00hi..i have blurred fonts in the youtube search bar ... how to avoid that?11:35
lotuspsychjef00: graphics drivers installed properly?11:44
f00yes11:44
cfhowlettwhy would only the YT fonts blur?11:44
f00yes only the TY fonts11:44
f00system fonts are fine11:45
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nkhi11:46
f00dmesg |grep failed has no failed message from nvidia11:47
YujinSI'm back, vga=0 has no effect it seems.11:56
BrawcksHi. I have a prblm. Actually have 2 VPS (OVH), and can connect myself from my computer using SSH to both. Perhaps, i cant connect using SSH from one to the second ("No route to host"). Why ? I'm using the same command. They are both ubuntu 16.04 VPS11:57
Exagone313Brawcks: are you using IP addresses?12:01
tomreynBrawcks: i think Exagone313 is asking whether you specify the target to dconnect to by IP addresses, nto hostnames.12:02
tomreyn*not12:02
Exagone313or, check that you can access internet from the vps12:03
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YujinS Attempting to install ubuntu on SurfacePro4, running into a black screen after the grub menu. What can I do? I have tried nomodeset and vga=0.12:06
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lotuspsychjeYujinS: wich ubuntu version?12:08
YujinS16.04.4 LTS12:08
YujinS16.04.4 LTS amd64, on an 8gb Sandisk pendrive.12:09
BrawcksYes Ip adresses12:10
BrawcksI'm not using host names for theses ones12:10
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tomreynBrawcks: at this point, you'll need to discuss both VPS' network configurations and show traceroutes in both directions to continue debugging it.12:11
ChunkzZHi, when is 18.04 being released? I know it's April but not sure on the exact date...12:14
ChunkzZnvm, 26th. :)12:14
lotuspsychjeChunkzZ: you can install daily too if you like #ubuntu+112:15
ChunkzZlotuspsychje: I'd rather not but thanks! :P12:16
Brawckstomreyn: Thanks For help, where could i get traceroutes ? I think i dont get what u mean by network configuration ? I actually did almost nothing on it, just got the IDs from OVH and connected on it. I also made a simple firewall to allow only some ports and blocked passwd login from ssh.12:17
lotuspsychje!final | ChunkzZ12:17
ubottuChunkzZ: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Bionic and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 18.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade » in a terminal.12:17
ChunkzZyeah I know lotuspsychje12:17
ChunkzZ..12:17
akikYujinS: this is a long shot but install ubuntu on the stick on another computer, then update its kernel to new mainline kernel, then try boot the surface with it12:18
tomreynBrawcks: traceroute is a command you can run on the terminal. you ssh into each of the VPS, then run the traceroute command, providing the ip address of the other VPS as an argument. this command will list the network hops it takes while trying to reach theother VPS.12:19
YujinSI don't understand, can this be put in simpler terms?12:19
YujinSWhat do you mean by update the kernal12:19
tomreynBrawcks: by "network configurations", i mean the output produced by: ip a && ip l && ip r12:20
lotuspsychjeYujinS: i think they install modified kernels on those surfaces12:20
akikYujinS: these are newer kernels that can easily be installed on ubuntu to test if they bring fixes12:20
tomreynBrawcks: before you post all those details, be sure it works without the firewall, though12:20
Exagone313Brawcks: send us the result of: iptables -S12:20
lotuspsychjeYujinS: did you take care of secureboot and fastboot settings?12:21
BrawcksOk, i'll do this and come back just after, thanks12:21
tomreyn!paste | Brawcks12:21
ubottuBrawcks: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:21
geodb27__People : hi !12:21
YujinSYeah I did take care of those settings12:21
geodb27__Is that a known fact that one can't install google-chrome-stable ?12:21
BrawcksOk :)12:21
akikgeodb27__: no, it's what they call an alternate fact12:22
akik!details | geodb27__12:23
ubottugeodb27__: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.12:23
geodb27__akik: I've tried to follow the instructions given here : https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome. The 3 first lines goes without any problem, but the "apt-get install google-chrome-stable" complains that there is no such package available. Even though apt search google-chrome-stable displays it.12:25
akikgeodb27__: you could try downloading the chrome deb from https://www.google.com/chrome/ and install it. it adds the ppa automatically12:26
geodb27__To me (but I can be mistaken), google has changed the place or the way to distribute their software. Indeed, heading a browser to https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb results in a 404 not found.12:26
lotuspsychjeYujinS: we had some users having their surfaces 3 & 4 installed like charm before12:27
geodb27__Oh, thanks akik. This way seems to be working. Why the hell did they drop the ppa ? Well... If I can at least install it, that's fine.12:28
lotuspsychjegeodb27__: try the ubuntu version; chromium-browser ?12:28
BrawcksHere i'm back, you can see the pastebin here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/th89myGxfH/12:28
nisankhindiathree things to do for Google chrome stableinstallation ..1. add key 2 set repository. 3 install using APT12:29
akikgeodb27__: you might be right. i removed google-chrome-stable and can't install it again12:29
nisankhindiaadd key :: wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -12:29
nisankhindiaadd repo :: echo 'deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list12:30
geodb27__nisankhindia: these instructions are the one given on the link I've posted at first and don't work anymore.12:30
akikgeodb27__: oh wow, apt-get remove removed also the ppa config12:30
nisankhindiasimple to do any kind of app installation using available supported repo12:30
nisankhindiaget the repo added12:31
Brawckstomreyn: One of the traceroute seems to be really short, instead of the second.Everything is here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/th89myGxfH/12:31
akikgeodb27__: Get:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 google-chrome-stable amd64 65.0.3325.181-1 [52.1 MB]12:31
Exagone313Brawcks: you're not running an open recursive DNS server do you?12:31
nisankhindiaor download the deb file from google12:31
geodb27__lotuspsychje: You couldn't know that, but chromium is installed and works fine. However, for some site, I must have the non-free version of it.12:31
nisankhindiadirect link for google chrome https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb12:33
katnipchrome works great on mine, even tho it's the evil empire12:33
geodb27__akik: https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome -> 40412:33
akikgeodb27__: i'm downloading it from google currently12:34
BrawcksExagone313: Actually dont have any host name, only IP adresses, i guess i dont have this ? I think i dont have enough technicity to know that. It was entirely first installed by OVH12:34
akikgeodb27__: here's the apt config for it: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main12:34
geodb27__https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome downloads a .deb, however, the install fails with "invalid architecture amd64" Oo That's too much weirndess to me for a sunday.12:34
nisankhindiagoto google download page12:35
katnipdeb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main12:35
nisankhindiaand select your arch and type12:35
nisankhindiahttps://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html12:35
geodb27__that's what I did nisankhindia, but, forgive me to repeat my words : the downloaded deb can't be installed, with the error "invalid architecture amd64"12:36
ioriageodb27__,   can you paste  uname -a   output ?12:37
nisankhindiadetails of your system12:37
nisankhindia???12:37
nisankhindiafirst read this geodb27__12:39
nisankhindiahttps://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/12:39
geodb27__Linux L540-David 4.13.0-38-generic #43~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 14 17:46:42 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux12:39
ioriageodb27__,   you are 32 bit12:39
nisankhindiaok i686 :)12:39
nisankhindiawait12:39
ioriageodb27__,   you can't install chrome12:40
akikgeodb27__: there's the solution. google stopped making the 32-bit version12:40
mojtabaHello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost But it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?12:40
mojtabaI have tried ssh -R 2210:localhost:22 root@IP, and then on the remote machine ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost connects without any problem.12:40
geodb27__OMG, what did I do ? -_-12:40
ioriageodb27__,   cat /proc/cpuinfo12:40
nisankhindiawget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_i686.deb12:40
nisankhindiahere this is for you12:40
iorianope12:40
geodb27__Well, How did I come to install this peculiar version of kubuntu on my laptop (a lenovo L540, so 64 bits indeed)...12:40
geodb27__Well, I'll have to go for a full re-install.12:41
ioriageodb27__,   cat /proc/cpuinfo   will tells you about your cpu12:41
nisankhindiaremove any previous google key12:41
nisankhindiaadd this key :: wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -12:41
nisankhindiathan add repo for your arch of the system :: sudo sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=i686] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list'12:42
akiknisankhindia: google ended the 32-bit chrome versin12:42
nullbyte_The following information may help to resolve the situation: cuda : Depends: cuda-9-1 (>= 9.1.85) but it is not going to be installed, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.12:42
geodb27__ioria: thanks a lot for leading me to the right solution. I guess that there is no way to update a kubuntu install from 32 to 64 bit without pain...12:42
nullbyte_how to fix it,everything looks fine in my system12:42
BluesKajHey folks12:42
ioriageodb27__,   you simply can't12:43
nisankhindiai said i68612:43
lotuspsychjenullbyte_: did you add external ppa's to your system?12:43
akiknicoulaj: i386/i486/i586/i686 all 32-bit12:44
nullbyte_lotuspsychje, no12:44
nullbyte_just install it with dpkg12:44
geodb27__Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4000M CPU @ 2.40GHz here is the proc my laptop... Heading to find the right install DVD. The fact is that I've installed 3 machines, 3 laptops as 64 bit systems a few monthes ago. But I took the wrong DVD this morning when I installed this last one.12:44
nullbyte_it's a .deb package12:44
nullbyte_it add some repos for cuda in apt source file lists12:44
nullbyte_and thats it12:44
nullbyte_after apt-get update i need to run apt-get install cuda12:44
nullbyte_for cuda12:44
nullbyte_from cuda-package.deb12:45
tomreynBrawcks: sorry, am afk, be back in ~20min12:45
nullbyte_but i got this broken packages, dependencies12:45
nullbyte_how ti fix it12:45
nullbyte_to12:45
Brawckstomreyn: All good :)12:46
lotuspsychjenullbyte_: broken dependecys happen when you add external ppas12:46
nullbyte_yes12:47
nisankhindiai have an issue with auth+pam12:50
ozberkI re managed my whole room and figured out thats why I love linux12:50
lotuspsychjeozberk: this channel is for ubuntu support mate12:50
nisankhindiaworking fine with basic auth but auth+pam not working , its not accepting the defined user and pass12:51
oaulakhcan anyone help after all of sudden shutdown or power off my ubuntu running slow keyword freezing while typing mouse cusser hangs alot. any l?12:52
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: ubuntu version? kernel version?12:52
nisankhindiaOS user credentials are not working with auth+pam in ubuntu http service (ubuntu + apache)12:53
oaulakhlotuspsychje, ubuntu 17.10 - kernel 4.13.0-38-generic12:54
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: on xorg or wayland? graphics card chipset and driver?12:55
oaulakhlotuspsychje, xorg graphicCrad-nvidia410m12:56
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: on nvidia driver or nouveau?12:56
oaulakhlotuspsychje, how to check that?12:56
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: sudo lshw -C video , dont paste here, just need driver= at bottom12:57
oaulakhlotuspsychje, driver=nouveau12:58
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: ok tnx for the details, have you tryed switching drivers yet? you can check whats available on your system with: ubuntu-drivers list12:58
oaulakhlotuspsychje, means it was working fine and awesome before but after sudden power off its not working as previous12:58
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: did that happen after an update12:59
oaulakhlotuspsychje, no it was awesome before but after power cut it all happening like wifi not working too12:59
oaulakhlotuspsychje, i think linux kernel not loading proper modules in as it should by default, how to reset that13:00
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: ok you can do a few tests: try switching drivers, try booting previous kernel, tail -f /var/log/syslog for grabbing usefull errors13:00
lotuspsychjeoaulakh: try loggin into guest account too, to test if its user related13:01
oaulakhyup wait13:01
oaulakhlotuspsychje, no problem didnt solved13:04
CheetahPixieMorning.13:07
CheetahPixieSome questions here.13:07
CheetahPixieI just tossed in an ES1978 Maestro 2E, and am trying to get its gameport to work.13:07
CheetahPixieSo far, nothing.13:07
CheetahPixieNo detected controller, not even audio.13:07
tomreynBrawcks: server 2 wont be able to reach its gateway with this configuration13:07
CheetahPixie(I got a total of three sound processors in my system right now.)13:07
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CheetahPixieSo, what do?13:09
Brawckstomreyn: Why ? What does it mean ?13:10
BrawcksWhat should i change ?13:10
Brawckstomreyn: And also why i cant connect from server 1 to server 2 either ?13:11
tomreynBrawcks: server 2's default gateway is configured as 54.37.8.1. it's primary ip address is configured as 54.37.14.155/32 (so there is just this one ip address in its subnet). it additional ip addresses could actually reach the gatewa since they are part of a huge /8 (and that's why the traceroute from server 2 to server 1 tries to use the 51.38.10.71/8 address - same subnet as server 1. this way, however, it will never route via the gateway.13:11
Brawckstomreyn: Let me some time to understand im still a beginner, trying to get it13:14
tomreynBrawcks: summing up: the /8 for the additional ip addresses on server 2 is probably wrong, way too large. also, 54.37.14.155/32 on server 2 is too small if the default gateway is 54.37.8.1.13:14
tomreynBrawcks: there is also ##networking if you'd like a better explanation than i'm providing.13:15
ozberkhow to nstall themes on ubuntu 17.0413:15
lotuspsychjeozberk: 17.04 is end of life13:16
BrawcksI'll check this chann too for further explanations if needed, but it seems that you are explaining nice. Won't need more from there13:16
Brawckstomreyn: I guess i cant change it myself, it's all from OVH, i'll may have to contact them ?13:17
tomreynBrawcks: i think you should review the documentation the hosting provider offers and make sure you configure the second server properly. if they provided you with this mess out of the box you'll need to contact support.13:17
Brawckstomreyn: Ok, i'll do this then. Thanks for your support it helped me a lot13:19
linurandyhello to everyone, i had problems with share folder with samba in Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS, I tried a lot of configuration and nothing, anyone could help me, thanks13:23
lotuspsychje!samba | linurandy start here13:25
ubottulinurandy start here: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html13:25
tomreynBrawcks: welcome13:29
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TheTrashHi! Uhm... where would I find out what dns server my ubuntu is using?13:39
linurandyubottu: the security = user parameter doesn't appear in the file, can i aggregate it?13:40
ubottulinurandy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:40
linurandylotuspsychje: the security = user parameter doesn't appear in the file, can i aggregate it?13:40
hggdhTheTrash: systemd-resolve --status will tell you13:41
TheTrashhggdh: hm, getting close, but my systemd-resolve doesn't take --status as an argument13:44
CptLuxxman i have a problem ...13:45
CptLuxxi have a wrong entry in my fstab for / so wheni boot it fails to mount13:45
CptLuxxi can boot in recovery but i can not change the fstab because its read only13:45
CptLuxxand remounting with rw is also not working :/13:46
TheTrashCptLuxx: best get some live cd that doesn't need to use /13:46
TheTrashThough I would assume mounting rw should work, why does it fail?13:46
CptLuxx - / not mounted already , or bad option13:47
CptLuxxits an super old ubuntu13:47
TheTrashWhat's the line you're using?13:47
CptLuxxmount / -o remount,rw13:47
CptLuxxbut a lice cd should work?13:48
akikCptLuxx: it uses the info from /etc/fstab, but you can supply it the correct info13:48
hggdhTheTrash: try looking at the current lease  under /var/lib/NetworkManager13:49
hggdher, dhclient's lease13:49
TheTrashCptLuxx: uhm could it be that / needs to be at the end, i.e. options need to be specified before mount point?13:50
ozberkhi people I need to ask another question and need to do some announcements. Firts my OS isn't 17.04 it is 17.10 I just noticed it how funny13:52
CptLuxxim booting from a cd iso TheTrash13:52
ozberksecond I can't see windows boot manager on grub and well update grub didn't work13:53
CptLuxx... lets see if i can fix the fstab then13:53
TheTrashhggdh: ah yes, found it there, tnx13:54
camil_toughbookhello13:58
CptLuxxworking replaced the wrong fstab entry13:58
camil_toughbooktesting13:59
Carllcamil_toughbook: hello.13:59
Amichaiubuntu 16.04 hangs at LightDM after installing and configuring SSSD14:08
BluesKajAmichai,  sudo blkid and set the new ssd uuid in /etc/fstab14:11
ioriaAmichai, see if it helps   https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html#sssd-ad-desktop14:12
BluesKajor set the new ssd as first in the boot sequence in uefi/bios if you have multiple drives14:13
AmichaiBluesKaj: not and ssd hdd, SSS +AD - to authenticate my machine with an M$ AD14:13
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BluesKajoh sorry , my mistake Amichai14:14
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Nebihi14:24
NebiI ahve a huge issue with xorg (I think). I was trying to install the right version of my nvidia drivers and doing so let to a situation where restarting I always get to a black screen and can only jump to text mode. I purged nvidia* completely. Reading around maybe I did something with xorg and tried to reinstall that but without success. I have no clue what to do now. Does someone have an idea?14:26
NebiWhile trying to force to create a xorg-cong he gave an error that two devices are on: nouveau and modesetting might that be a start for the problem?14:27
Nebi(Ubuntu 16.04, kernel 4.4)14:27
NCC_1701Dhi14:32
NCC_1701Dhallo ?14:33
NCC_1701Dgerman?14:33
MikespainHello14:33
Nebihi, yes German, French, Epnglish, Spanish14:33
MikespainAnyone here?14:35
Nebiyes, and wondering if someone can help me :)14:36
MikespainLooking for help too14:36
Nebiwhat is your issue Mikespain?14:37
MikespainHow to make wifi work in an early 2009 iMac14:38
MikespainAny chance you know about this?14:38
NebiNo, unfortunately I don't think so14:38
MikespainNo worries, I think I'd better look for help somewhere else14:38
MikespainGood luck :)14:38
Nebiyou, too!14:39
CarllNebi: nouveau and modesetting are drivers for nvidia. I'll do some researching..14:40
CarllNebi: What verison of ubuntu?14:41
NebiThanks Carll14:41
NebiUbuntu 16.0414:41
Emcydoes anyone know about tlp on thinkpads14:43
Emcyim trying to understand charge thresholds14:44
Emcyi just want to limit the charge to 8%14:44
Emcy80%14:44
Emcyso i want charging to occur anywhere between 0 and 80% of capacity14:44
Emcybut then i dont understand why default is 96/10014:44
CarllNebi: OK, so just to clarify here; you get this when the black screen on boot? Have you edited your grub entry?14:46
Nebithe black screen comes after the boot loading (there where one can usually select the user)14:47
NebiYes Ihave edited the grub entry14:47
NebiI ahd changed it to be able to enter in text-only mode but changed it back to the initial gui-mode14:47
Nebi/etc/default/grub now looks as before I did the change to be able to get into text-only mode14:48
NebiBut using sudo update-grub might have changed something else?14:49
CarllNebi: When you installed your nvidia drivers etc, you may need to change "ro quiet splash" to "ro nomodeset quiet splash"14:49
aureliaciao14:49
Nebitrying14:50
NebiNow the loading symbols appeared ugly but it hangs again at the same point14:51
leftyfbNebi: was the previous nvidia driver working before?14:52
CarllNebi: CTRL + ALT + F214:52
NebiWell yes it was but I had problems installing CUDA and was thus trying around14:52
NebiBut already while installing I had problems with nvidia until it worked14:53
leftyfbNebi: did you already undo whatever you did trying to install CUDA?14:53
NebiYes, I tried to remove everything linked to CUDA except the element in python14:54
leftyfbNebi: and what nvidia driver do you have installed now?14:54
Nebinow I purged all of them14:54
leftyfbNebi: ok, you need something installed14:54
leftyfbNebi: sudo apt install nvidia-38414:55
NebiI tried several and every time I got the same14:55
NebiOk ill try14:55
leftyfbNebi: undo the nomedeset14:56
jakatingkirubuntu command for import private key address btc14:56
jakatingkirdo you gays know?14:56
NebiStill the same issue it seems15:00
Nebiif I type nvidia-settings it says 'the control display is undefined'15:01
BluesKajNebi, make sure you dkms installed too15:02
leftyfbBluesKaj: isn't dkms only needed for when you install the the drives from nvidia's website? It shouldn't be needed for the nvidia- packages from the official repo15:04
leftyfbdrives/drivers*15:04
NebiBluesKaj, dkms is installed15:04
kc__hey15:04
NebiOn one page I've read that running the drivers from the official page can lead to black screen if a certain option is not activated - which I hadnt. But as I purged everythign and retried the same with the option added that did also not solve the issue15:05
Nebi--no-opengl-files was that command15:07
NebiIm trying right now again to run that package with the command15:08
leftyfbI wouldn't15:09
jakatingkir"/help"15:09
leftyfbNebi: I wouldn't bother with the drivers from nvidia's website until we get the original one working from the ubuntu repo15:10
Nebileftyfb, ok15:12
BluesKajleftyfb, yes dkms is suppodely installed by default, but one never knows what purges can do with drivers15:14
BluesKaj supposedly even15:20
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NebiI ahvent tried to purge my ubuntu-gnome-desktop yet15:25
NokajiHi, I'm connecting a new printer to v16.04, it's a a Canon Maxify 5150 (5100 Series, apparently). I'm in ADD PRINTER mode, selected CANON, it now has a long list of MAXIFY Printers but of course, not mine ... looking for some help, thanks15:31
Nebihmmm just found that libcuda was still installed15:32
untorehif run/user/id/gvfs and ~/.gvfs are both empty where does nautilus/gvfs/gio mount the frigging remote shares15:32
NokajiIt has for e.g (nearest?) 5050, 5090, then 5310, 5350, MB5300 (not maxify?)15:35
Nebipurging it didnt help either15:36
Sam__Hey guys, I'm trying to build monero on Tails, but g++ is crashing... any ideas about this?15:37
Sam__Here's how g++ is crashing:15:38
Sam__[ 80%] Building CXX object src/rpc/CMakeFiles/obj_rpc.dir/core_rpc_server.cpp.o15:38
Sam__c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)15:38
Sam__Please submit a full bug report,15:38
Sam__with preprocessed source if appropriate.15:38
Sam__See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-6/README.Bugs> for instructions.15:38
slidinghorn!paste > Sam__ For future reference15:39
Nebiwhen writing sudo nvidia-xconfig it says: 'package xorg-server was not found in the pfk-config search path' maybe that is the problem?15:42
tokamhello15:47
tokamubuntu is installed on a virtual machine.15:47
NebiHas anyone any other idea?15:47
tokamhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pdYdJtcP2P/15:47
tokamhow is that possible?15:47
BlueProtomanI dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows, but I keep a third partition full of common data (code, music, homework, etc.) so I don't have to copy it between OSes.  However, anything I delete on this common partition doesn't go to the Trash.  Why is that?15:53
V7Hey all15:53
V7Is it possible to disable ssh client's try again ( second attempt ) ?15:53
NebiOK, thanks anwayway Carll, leftyfb and BluesKaj15:57
BluesKajNebi,  sudo apt install xserver-xoorg-video-nouveau16:00
BluesKajoops  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau16:01
BluesKajNebi,^16:01
slidinghornV7: See here - (this is a setting described in the man page) https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/8995016:01
V7Have already seen this one16:02
aury!list16:02
ubottuaury: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:02
V7This is for ssh server, not for client16:02
V7Btw there's -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=116:02
NebiThanks BluesKaj, I tried that too16:02
NebiI tried purging it and reinstalling16:02
V7Thank you slidinghorn16:07
V7Btw, -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 will output Permission denied (publickey,password).16:08
laptophi what channel is good to find out about native linux games16:08
V7laptop: gog.com16:08
laptopI tried that lol16:09
slidinghornlaptop: that's not really on topic here16:09
slidinghornlaptop: I can PM you a couple websites thoug if you'd like16:10
laptopyes16:11
laptopplease16:12
NebiIs there a way of recovery?16:12
kostkonlaptop, http://gamingonlinux.com/16:13
laptopty16:14
NebiI cannot even start in failsafe graphic mode because he says there are no screens16:15
V7Is it possible to execute a command with ssh with asking a password, but only one time form a script16:16
V7For example, read pass; sshpass -p "$pass" ssh server uname will ask a password one more if password was wrong16:16
V7setting NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 will send a message Permission denied (publickey,password) whereever it was successfull or not16:16
ioriaNebi, usually that happen when you have a wong xorg.conf16:17
ioria*s16:18
ioriaNebi,  i mean 'wrong'16:19
V7John Wong16:19
NebiI was trying to install nvidia drivers.16:21
NebiThe xorg.conf file might well be the issue16:21
NebiI tried loading an old one with no success yet16:21
V7Anyone ?16:22
ntdtrying to do what with xorg.conf?16:22
ioriaNebi,   do you have a xorg.conf somewhere  ? /etx/X11  or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d16:22
NebiI was trying to fix the one in /etc/X1116:23
NebiI havent checked in /usr...16:23
elichai2hey16:23
ntd /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig16:23
elichai2how can I install python 3.5 on Ubuntu 17.1016:23
Wulfelichai2: pyenv16:24
laurusWhen I start up my machine, I now hear a quick burst of loud white noise. Now when I try to play any audio file, I hear that same white noise. It's the same no matter what I do with any volume settings. Any ideas?16:24
NebiI tried to execute nvidia-xconfig a couple of times without success16:24
tomreyntokam: this system is a VM16:24
tomreyn... or a container16:25
tomreyntokam: run "systemd-detect-virt" or "virt-what" to get a better idea of what you're running in.16:28
tokamopenvz16:29
tomreyntokam: you wont be able to make such changes in this containment.16:29
tokamwhy?16:30
tokamwill my hoster be able to do it?16:30
tomreyntokam: it could impact reliability of the host system, and other users on the same host16:30
tokamthey sell systems running on plesk16:30
tomreynso no, strato wont disabl eit for you16:30
tokambut with plesk php crashes16:30
tokamand leads to a 503 error16:31
tokamand plesk suggests that change as a bugfix16:31
tomreyntokam: we don't support plesk here, just ubuntu.16:31
tokamits an ubuntu server.16:31
Nebiif i run lspci | grep vga the answer is empty16:32
slidinghornNebi: use grep -i vga16:33
slidinghornNebi: grep is case sensitive by default16:33
tomreyntokam: you are very welcome to ask any ubuntu related questions here.16:33
NebiThank you slidinghorn: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device16:34
NebiMaqybe I have to reactivate the intel default?16:35
IndiciumTest16:36
slidinghornelichai2: was there something broken between 3.5 & 3.7?16:36
NebiOK, I have to go away for a couple of min. Private msg me please if someone has any idea of what this could be. Im really desperate here16:36
d2r2hello16:37
d2r2I was wondering can I install the new LTS on my XX LTS without removing everything16:37
d2r2like an upgrade and not a formatting and rebooting with 18.0416:38
slidinghornd2r2: what do you mean XX LTS?16:38
elichai2slidinghorn: i'm trying to check if there's a different libc usage16:38
Irritiable|LTslidinghorn: A previous version (lower).16:38
Irritiable|LT"XX" = 10.XX for example.16:39
slidinghornIrritiable|LT: it matters which previous LTS is being used16:39
Irritiable|LTslidinghorn: Ah. Your question in and of itself was misleading. Sorry.16:39
d2r2slidinghorn: no the current LTS Xenial X... I didn't know the last name so typed XX instead16:39
V7Interesting16:40
V7Ubuntu Government's essentials tells that it's Virus free16:40
V7So, if it's not government then it's not free of viruses ?16:40
slidinghornd2r2: understood :)  when 18.04 is released, you'll be prompted in the GUI to ask if you want to upgrade...if you prefer to do it via CLI, then make sure all current updates are installed, then do   sudo do-release-upgrade -d16:41
slidinghornV7: what are you talking about? is there an ubuntu support question involved here?16:41
d2r2that's it?? slidinghorn16:41
AllanisV7: If I'm not mistaken, I believe that page just refers to how it can be beneficial for business use.16:42
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slidinghornd2r2: should work like a charm so long as everything is up to date when you run it.  I'd wait until the actual release, however.16:42
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V7Allanis: ... ads16:43
d2r2slidinghorn: is the april 27 release for Public or still only for developers16:44
AllanisWhat?16:44
slidinghornd2r2: that's the scheduled public release16:44
d2r2actually I want to install android studio but didn't know wheather I can upgrade or not so was waiting. I guess I can install it today right?? slidinghorn16:45
hank_anyone here get the Linux+ cert?16:48
hank_from comptia16:48
slidinghornhank_: do you have an ubuntu support question?16:49
hank_No.  Not directly Just chatting sorry.16:49
hank_I will stop16:49
slidinghornhank_: try out #ubuntu-offtopic :)16:49
hank_cool thanks16:49
FaTaL_GTJ-, thank you!!!!!!!!!!16:55
TJ-FaTaL_G: whaddidido?16:55
FaTaL_GTJ-, thank you!!!!!!!!!!16:57
FaTaL_Gupdate-grub was all was needed16:57
TJ-FaTaL_G: really? well, after all the hassle we went through too, should have done that first :)16:57
FaTaL_Gyou suggested it, so I tried it16:57
FaTaL_GI mean, boot was mountable and clean16:58
FaTaL_Git booted right up and worked. Even had a memtest+86 entry after doing so16:59
FaTaL_Gnow what I assume is the hard part, which is probably going to take quite a bit of learning.... how to get max speed from the gigabit ethernets17:00
TJ-FaTaL_G: fill the pipes :)17:00
FaTaL_GAre you "TJ" or "AG"?17:01
FaTaL_G;)17:01
TJ-FaTaL_G: if both ends of a gigabit connection can operate at wire speed it should handle very close to 100 Megabytes/second in each direction simultaenously17:03
FaTaL_GI can get about 116...... when all is well, but with my ubuntu router, the max I get is about 95 (MB)17:05
FaTaL_G116 with the R7000 or R850017:05
TJ-That's pretty good17:05
FaTaL_Gbut I ****SHOULD**** get 116 with the ubuntu router. So something is not performing up to speed.... pun intended17:06
Guest80544does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform17:06
FaTaL_Gthe catch is, with nighthawk or any cots router, once you add congestion and extra traffic monitoring and xontrol, it drops to like..... 22MB17:06
TJ-FaTaL_G: right.. speeds will drop once you impose traffic management17:07
TJ-Because software has to inspect and act on every packet17:07
FaTaL_Gat least my ubuntu solution currently hits the 730+Mb, and stay there mostly17:07
FaTaL_GI know TJ17:07
FaTaL_Gbut thus why I built a real computer vs. ARM processors17:08
TJ-FaTaL_G: reduce the monitoring/packet inspection. That imposes quite a load. Also, investigate if the load is being shared across all cores or 1 is getting overwhelmed.17:09
FaTaL_Gatm, Im not doing any17:10
FaTaL_Gjust iptables17:10
TJ-FaTaL_G: might be worth checking the interrupt handling "cat /proc/interrupts"17:11
FaTaL_Gis there a top command for that? O_o17:13
FaTaL_Gahci and local timer interrupts are largest at a glance17:14
FaTaL_Gperfomrance monitoring are double digits... like, 1117:14
FaTaL_GMajority are entries such as "IR-PCI-MSI 2101252-edge      enp4s0f2-rx-3"17:15
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TJ-!info powertop | FaTaL_G this might be some help17:18
ubottuFaTaL_G this might be some help: powertop (source: powertop): diagnose issues with power consumption and management. In component main, is extra. Version 2.8-1build2 (artful), package size 167 kB, installed size 528 kB (Only available for linux-any)17:18
TJ-!info ntopng | FaTaL_G also this for a more general overview (presents on http://localhost:3000/17:24
ubottuFaTaL_G also this for a more general overview (presents on http://localhost:3000/: ntopng (source: ntopng): High-Speed Web-based Traffic Analysis and Flow Collection Tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4+dfsg1-3 (artful), package size 259 kB, installed size 769 kB17:24
TheDoehow can i disable LLMNR in systemd-resolve? i tried adding LLMNR=no to /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, but when i type "systemd-resolve --status" it "show LLMNR setting: yes", i have tried rebooting computer and restarting systemd-resolved.service17:30
FaTaL_Gis there a cli/cml version of speedtest I can run that reports a speed test up/down in text with os based abilities vs. using mozilla etc?17:34
TJ-TheDoe: it's a [Network] section entry, where are you using it?17:36
TJ-!info speedtest-cli | FaTaL_G17:36
ubottuFaTaL_G: speedtest-cli (source: speedtest-cli): Command line interface for testing internet bandwidth using speedtest.net. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-2 (artful), package size 19 kB, installed size 88 kB17:36
FaTaL_Gvn TJ. does the bot use partial, or regex input?17:37
FaTaL_G!info speed.*17:37
ubottuspeedometer (source: speedometer): measure and display the rate of data across a network connection. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8-2 (artful), package size 13 kB, installed size 50 kB17:37
Guest80544does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform17:38
TheDoeTJ-: are you taking about the [network] section in NetworkManager config? or the /etc/systemd/resolved.conf file?17:39
TJ-FaTaL_G: no, only exact. On your local system however you can do "apt-cache search <term>" (or "apt-cache search -n <term>" for package-name-only )17:39
TJ-TheDoe: I'm reading "man systemd.network" so it's .network files17:40
TheDoeTJ-: i am editing the file /etc/systemd/resolved.conf there is a line commented out "#LLMNR=yes" i changed it to "LLMNR=no"17:40
TJ-TheDoe: ahh... "man resolved.conf" says that only applies to *localhost* and the systemd-networkd options control per-link17:41
laptopwhat is a good program for converting a pdf into mp3 audio17:42
TheDoeTheDoe: i think that is related to systemd.networkd which i am not using, and is also disabled by default in ubuntu 17.10. but i could be wrong17:42
TJ-TheDoe: I assume you're restarting systemd-resolved service to be sure the new config has been read?17:44
TheDoeTJ-: systemctl "list-unit-files" shows systemd-networkd as disable17:44
TheDoeTJ-: yes u trued rebooting computer and systemctl restart systemd-resolved17:44
bonhoefferi can't get my live usb to run -- screen flickers and nothing more from my monitor17:45
bonhoefferi can work all day in the setup mode -- is there a way to see if i can get the live os to run in non-graphics mode17:45
TheDoei even checked the journelctl -u systemd-resolvd and it showed it restarted17:45
chomaHello free node I don't seem to be able to make user plast1k do sudo commands. What might be the issue ? see below  https://paste.ofcode.org/4AFHZ2MTZ9JEVB3KN6NsGV17:45
laptopany program to convert pdf file in text to speech to mp317:46
TheDoechoma: is the user plast1k in the sudoer group?17:46
chomaok so the group name should be sudo or sudoer ?17:46
TheDoechoma: i think you have to add that as a secondary group for the user or the command will not work17:46
FaTaL_GTJ-, Download: 732.15 Mbit/s & Upload: 92.67 Mbit/s, thats on the fwd facing machine where I can normally get 934/934 with a direct connect on the same cat6. SO I will do some digging with those tools17:46
TheDoechoma: i dont know i am a noob sorry17:46
bonhoefferlooking for any options17:46
TheDoechoma: i think group name "sudo" i just checked one of my accounts on my local computer17:47
bonhoefferall -- I took a 15 sec video to show this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXR_e4HWTzM17:48
slidinghornchoma: have you logged out and back in again?17:48
TJ-TheDoe: hmmm, did you say you've added a file in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/ ?17:48
choma@theDoe yeah he is in sudo group17:48
TheDoechoma try "sudo -i" and "su" commands17:48
TJ-choma: does "group" show the user in group 'sudo' ?17:48
FaTaL_GTJ-, on the apt-cache, I know that one, but never thought of using -n, it accepts partial text, does it accept regex? hmmmmm......17:48
TheDoeTJ-: i have not, but i will try that not17:48
TheDoeTJ-: now*17:48
TJ-FaTaL_G: yes, read 'man apt-cache'17:48
FaTaL_Gthanks17:48
FaTaL_Gjust enver thought of that approach17:49
TJ-TheDoe: The reason I asked if if you did it thay way I recall some talk about resolved not reading that directory in some circumstances17:49
phaedralJust upgraded and lost my scrollbar in file manager.17:49
TJ-FaTaL_G: I use that and 'apt-file search' very often17:49
bonhoefferwondering if i can boot to cli only?17:50
TheDoeTJ-: ok, the only file i edited is /etc/systemd/resolved.conf which the man page said would disable LLMNR17:50
bonhoefferi see i can set special boot parameters17:50
TJ-TheDoe: yeah, that's what I'd expect too!17:51
TheDoeTJ-: ok thanks anyway17:52
TJ-TheDoe: how about checking if that file is really read when the service is restarted? you could use inotify to do "sudo inotifywait -mr /etc/systemd"  and then in another terminal "sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved"17:52
ducassebonhoeffer: try 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target'17:52
TJ-bonhoeffer: yes, ^^^^17:52
TheDoeTJ-: good idea i will try now17:53
Guest80544does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform17:54
bonhoefferok17:54
TJ-bonhoeffer: you can also set that as the default with "systemctl set-default multi-user.target"17:54
bonhoefferducasse: i don't see that in other options17:55
bonhoefferi was going to try without installing and do nomodeset noapic and acpi=off17:55
TJ-bonhoeffer: you'd add it manually at boot-time via GRUB boot menu entry editing, or write it into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT of /etc/default/grub17:55
bonhoefferhow do i get to that?17:56
ducassebonhoeffer: enter it in grub on the 'linux' line17:56
bonhoeffersorry -- liveusb starts up17:56
bonhoeffer"try, install check disk for defects, etc" after picking my language17:56
bonhoefferi was able to run live usb withnomode set etc17:57
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TheDoeTJ-: i think it read the file /etc/systemd/ OPEN resolved.conf and "/etc/systemd/ ACCESS resolved.conf" and "/etc/systemd/ CLOSE_NOWRITE,CLOSE resolved.conf"17:58
bonhoefferone error was: ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI18:01
bonhoefferhow do i see the errors on boot?18:01
TJ-TheDoe: looks like it. So either your syntax is wrong or resolved actually ignores it18:03
goatiaHi all, I need some guidence please! Just installed a fresh copy of UbuntuStudio on a new HD, I want to switch between 2 enviroments, Studio and Ubuntu 17.10, one for my music and production, the other for an office envioroment. Any suggestions on how I could do this? Ubunu 17.10 will replace Studio if I wanted to install it alongside!18:03
TheDoeTJ-: maybe i could turn debug logging on journelctl and have a look18:05
TJ-TheDoe: does "journalctl -u systemd-resolved" show it reading ?18:06
EriC^^goatia: install ubuntu-desktop package18:06
TJ-TheDoe: I was wondering the same thing, don't see anything obvious in the man pages so far18:06
EriC^^goatia: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop18:07
EriC^^goatia: once sec, i'm not that familiar with ubuntu studio, it has it's own desktop environment?18:08
Guest80544does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform18:08
ducasseEriC^^: it uses xfce18:08
goatiaYes, thats the thing, perfect for my studio work but im lost in the office side of things18:09
EriC^^ducasse: aha thanks18:09
EriC^^goatia: alright, just open a terminal and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and choose it from the login page where you usually login18:10
goatiaFantastic, let me try that! Thanks man18:10
EriC^^no problem18:10
TJ-Guest80544: check with "grep seccomp /proc/kallsyms"18:11
Guest80544TJ-: https://zerobin.net/?08055624d4fa05c8#2tS01+p3T7zrnRQPNgkx1Bz/XSUVsBqOWDtyHJeKeag=18:13
TJ-Guest80544: looks like seccomp is built in18:14
TJ-Guest80544: which Ubuntu release is it, and which kernel version? (cat /etc/issue; uname -r)18:14
TheDoeTJ-: cant see anything in the "journalctl -u systemd-resolved" logs about reading the config fail or failing to read it, i am out of ideas now18:15
TJ-TheDoe: me neither, not very transparent is it!?18:15
pikapikadd from /dev/zero to disk file stabilizes at about 100 MB/s. dd between disk files to about 30-40. Dont have external hdd now, so cant test xfer speeds between ext hdd and internal. So why is file manager (Thunar) so slow? Most of the time the speed stays around 10 MB or even slower. Of course, copying several small files is slower than copying few large files. But even during xfer of large files (3-5 GB) it stays at such speeds most of the time. What18:15
pikapikamight be the reason?18:15
Guest80544TJ-: https://zerobin.net/?5a553a234150f0cb#OWB+oB5I+TJsYQyN3ISfcqIL7sE5ySQuE8q8gptLz8I=18:15
TheDoeTJ-: thanks for the help, i guess its not super important its just anoying me. i will take a break and come back to this with a clear head. i will leave irc open just in case u think of something18:16
TJ-TheDoe: try asking in #systemd channel18:16
TheDoeTJ-: ok thats a good idea i will do that now18:16
TJ-Guest80544: seems standard; I use firejail (but on 18.04 here) - so not sure if that is expected on 16.04/4.1318:17
pikapikaIn fact the 30-40 value was from a small block size, repeating the experiment with bs=100M it stays mostly around 50MB which makes sense.18:18
xissburgwhy's apt-get cmake version 3.5.1 while the latest version is way above (3.11)?18:19
pikapikaOh and both partitions are same type (ext4)18:21
ducasse!latest | xissburg18:21
ubottuxissburg: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.18:21
xissburgheh18:22
tyamurtest18:24
bonhoefferhow can i test my video card from a live usb? i have a window manager open -- but it is showing display as x.Org18:31
bonhoefferdoes this spell any specific hardware trouble: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/3e3a43c9e464535e9e81d05d5c6d07b118:37
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NebiHi, I'm back. Don't know if the same ppl from before are still here18:50
ice9how to install ubuntu for UEFI booting?18:52
ducasse!uefi | ice918:53
ubottuice9: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:53
NebiHi, I will retry to ask the question from today differently as I still have the same issue. Lets assume I installed the nvidia-drivers wrongly because I have not put a command at the end --no-open-gl-files. What could have broken that, so that I have now no screen in X?18:56
tomreynbonhoeffer: you should upgrade your bios.18:56
bonhoeffertomreyn: ok -- will do that18:56
bonhoefferbios on the graphics card or mobo?18:57
tomreynbonhoeffer: actually you'r eon the latest, sorry. i mean the mainboard firmware18:57
tomreynbonhoeffer: i'm surprised there is not a newer one for this threadripper board.18:58
bonhoeffersorry, i'm lost -- what firmware should i update?18:58
tomreynbonhoeffer: none, please ignore what i said. ;)18:58
tomreynis there any issue, though?18:58
ioriaNebi what i think is that you used the Nvidia  installer, and not the ubuntu repo version18:59
Nebi(I tried to purge in the meantime nvidia-drivers, I reinstalled x-org and even ubuntu-desktop..)18:59
Nebiioria, thanks for the answer. Yes exactly I used the Nvidia installer. What could this Nvidia installer have broken?19:00
bonhoeffertomreyn: i think something is really wrong with my machine -- but maybe it is just a windows problem19:00
ioriaNebi why did you use that installer ?19:00
tomreynbonhoeffer: what makes you think so?19:00
NebiWell at the beginning I was trying unsuccessfully to install CUDA. I though that maybe my issue was linked to the nvidia driver. So I tried like to install one that would be supported by CUDA. This brought me to that pickle that I have now no screen at all.19:01
NebiActually I tried first some repo ones before downloading the nvidia one19:01
bonhoeffertomreyn: the multiple graphics card failures to keep sending stuff to the monitor19:02
tomreynbonhoeffer: that's an artful (17.10.1) live / installer you're booting there, right?19:03
bonhoefferhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXR_e4HWTzM19:03
bonhoefferjust 14 seconds as an example19:03
bonhoeffersee the flicker and then, nothing19:03
ioriaNebi  please highlight the nick of the person you're talking to or we'll lose track19:03
bonhoefferit is an lubuntu live usb19:03
Nebiioria like that? Sorry.19:03
tomreynbonhoeffer: which version exactly?19:03
ioriaNebi  yep   sudo apt install pastebinit19:04
tomreynbonhoeffer: this message does not look healthy. https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/3e3a43c9e464535e9e81d05d5c6d07b1#file-my_dmseg-txt-L762 - you may need updated mesa, kenrel, graphics card firmware.19:05
Nebiioria ok installed19:05
ioriaNebi   dpkg -l | grep cuda | pastebinit19:05
Nebiioria result is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7TdMTsG4Kb/19:06
ioriaNebi   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit19:06
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhyWR8t89M19:08
Nebiioria Im trying again19:08
ioriaNebi   what are you trying ?19:08
Nebiioria the link was wrong here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3hyWR8t78M/19:09
ioriaok19:09
Nebiioria Im writing from another computer19:09
ioriaNebi   i see: sudo apt purge nvidia*   (note the *)19:09
Nebiioria done. Shoudl I also do that with CUDA? I was surprised that it was still there19:10
ioriaNebi   i see: sudo apt purge cuda19:10
ioriaNebi   i see: sudo apt purge cuda*19:11
Nebiioria ok done19:11
f00hello, i have an issue with graphic card. in my systray appeared an exclamation mark. actice graphics card: unknown. before there was nvidia icon19:11
ioriaNebi   cd int the download nvidia installer19:12
f00reinstalled nvidia driver, but could not solve the problem19:12
ioriaNebi   cd in the download nvidia installer directory19:12
Nebiioria ok im there19:12
ioriaNebi  are you using gnome-sherll  or unity ?19:13
ioria*shell19:13
Nebiioria unity19:13
sereis there a favorite mini board like rasberry pi for any overall cumputer19:13
ioriaNebi  sudo service lightdm stop19:13
sereto run a full ubuntu desktop sorry19:13
Nebiioria done19:14
ioriaNebi  sudo sh NVIDIA* --uninstall19:14
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Nebiioria it says: "If you plan to no longer use the NVIDIA driver, you should make sure thjat no X screens are configured tp use the NVIDIA X driver in your X configuration file. If you used nvidia-xconfig to confgigure Xm it may have created a backup of your noriginal conf. Woudl you like to run 'nvidia-xconfig --restore-original-backup' to attempt restoation of the original X conf file?19:17
Nebiioria I tried several times to install it and also to modify the conf several times19:17
Nebiioria but I see that message the first time19:17
royal_screwup21when you sudo apt-get install <some_package>, what package repository are you specifically calling?19:17
ioriaNebi  no backup19:17
Nebiioria so I click on no?19:18
ioriaNebi  yes, completely remove it19:18
Nebiioria ok, done19:19
ioriaNebi  sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf19:19
Nebiioria quite a lot of results back. Most of them are in /etc/X11/ /usr/share/X11/ and two files also in /usr/share/man19:21
ioriaNebi locate xorg.conf  | pastebinit19:21
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VCyJSYV8nJ19:22
ioriaNebi  cd /etc/X11 && sudo rm xorg*19:24
tomreynroyal_screwup21: the one which offers the package at the highest apt priority19:24
Nebiioria ok done19:25
ioriaNebi  cat /proc/cmdline    (you can paste it here)19:25
tomreynroyal_screwup21: "apt policy <package>" to find out more19:25
tomreynroyal_screwup21: look for "installation candidate"19:25
royal_screwup21cool thanks!19:26
NebiBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-119-generic root=UUID=c811f5ae-ba90-4d48-bd58-e76f4b571dcc ro quiet splash nogpumanager vt.handoff=719:27
ioriaNebi  what about the 'nogpumanager' ?19:27
Nebiioria sorry forgot to put your name. see above. nogpumanager I have isnerted also subsequently today trying to fix19:27
Nebiioria it wasnt at the beginning but it was one of many things I have tried19:28
ioriaNebi  cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit19:28
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9RPBT9v3D8/19:29
ioriaNebi  sudo nano  /etc/default/grub  ; remove nogpumanager   and run  sudo update-grub19:30
Nebiioria ok done19:31
ioriaNebi  lspci    lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | pastebinit19:31
bonhoefferi ran ./amdgpu-pro-install –y -- how do i get the driver to run now19:31
bonhoefferas it is, i'm just using the default screen and it is killing me19:31
ioriaNebi  sy,    lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | pastebinit19:32
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9xG2gD7tQp/19:32
bonhoefferi thought monitor settings would have it -- but that has no options outside the defalut19:33
bonhoefferdefault19:33
ioriaNebi  sy,    sudo lshw -c Video | pastebinit19:34
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQtfjvc8TZ/19:35
ioriaNebi  what nvidia card do you have ?19:35
Nebiioria GTX105019:36
bonhoefferi'm pretty sure the driver is installed correctly, but how do i get my monitor to use it?19:36
ioriaNebi  ok, try to reboot19:36
ioriaNebi  i think we need the nvidia ppa btw19:37
goatiaHi guys, question, can I install Linux Mint, and still keep Ubuntu, with the option to switch between them? I tried the usb installation method but it wants me to overwrite Ubuntu, I dont want to do that!19:37
feodoranHi, is it somehow possible to detect whether some display device is powered on? xrandr will tell me whether it is connected (=cable is plugged in), but that is a different thing.19:37
Nebiioria i rebooted - blackscreen19:37
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bonhoefferoh -- i guess just reboot19:37
Nebiioria which one shall I choose?19:38
ioriaNebi  ubuntu-divers list | pastebinit19:38
ioriaNebi  ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit19:38
Nebihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J9HkFtWGp9/19:39
ioriaNebi  ok, we try to boot with nomodeset and then we try 390 from ppa ; sudo nano /etc/default/grub   and add nomodeset after quiet splash19:40
feodorangoatia: you will need a separate partition on your disk for each OS. or just use a separate hard drive.19:40
bonhoefferhmm . . . installed r9 driver and rebooted and still terrible default resolution19:40
ioriaNebi  and   after run sudo update-grub19:40
bonhoefferany ideas?19:40
goatiaThanks, makes sense, you dont know what file system I should format that new partition?19:41
Nebiioria the result of nomodeset is that the loading symbol looks ugly (squares with red dots) and now its stuck again19:42
feodoranext4 should always work for linux19:42
Nebiioria so grub back and 390?19:42
ioriaNebi  have you rebooted ?19:42
goatiaThanks a million :)19:43
Nebiioria yes: change, update-grub and reboot19:43
bonhoefferi was thinking there is some way to force ubuntu to use my graphics card driver instead of the default19:43
Nebiioria while rebooting ubuntu's loading sign appeared ugly. but it stuck again in balck screen19:43
ioriaNebi  have you done something else that we don't know ?19:44
tomreynbonhoeffer: you wont be able to install a different driver on the live / installer usb. it uses temporary storage only.19:45
ioriaNebi  nvm; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-39019:46
Nebiioria Ok let me seriously think. I installed CUDA and then modified the nvidia drivers. I had another problem before. I actually wrote sudo apt upgrade. This installed a newer kernel 4.13. But with 4.13 my system started to get crazy and it froze completely. I rememebr that I had that issue already once. So I removed all the elements of 4.13 so that it is back to 4.4 Actually I did that and everyxthing was runnign normal again. So I continued wit19:46
Nebiht he nvidia drivers19:46
tomreynbonhoeffer:if you want to test such things without installing ubuntu to your fixed storage then you'll need to install it to another removable storage and boot off that19:46
Nebiioria during one of the tests with the nvidia drivers I had to change the grub to reboot in text mode. I did upgrade-grub with the text-booting but had a copy of the initial grub that I put back (and that you saw before)19:47
Nebiioria (Ok I'm on it)19:47
bonhoeffertomreyn: no -- i'm using a hard disk install now19:48
ioriaNebi    and paste dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[0-9]19:49
tomreynbonhoeffer: alright, it'd be good to point such things out since we can't watch over your shoulder19:49
bonhoefferapologies tomreyn19:49
bonhoefferwill do19:49
tomreynbonhoeffer: no worries, i'm just pointing this out, it's not easy to think about all the things you need to describe to get support.19:50
ioriaNebi   wait you already have that ppa installed19:50
tomreynbonhoeffer: anothe rone would be which ubuntu release you installed there, and whether you fuly updates it, yet19:50
Nebiioria It is installing19:51
Nebiioria it finished already19:51
ioriaNebi   396 it's not inhe ubuntu repo19:51
bonhoefferfully updated 17.1019:51
ioriaNebi   remove nomodeset , sudo update-grub and reboot19:52
Nebiioria I just installed the 390 as you told me above19:52
ioriaNebi  yes, but your http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J9HkFtWGp9/  shows 396 ...19:52
Nebiioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5RBVbvQq4519:52
tomreynbonhoeffer: what's your graphics hardware? lspci -knnv | grep VGA19:53
Nebiioria I tried many different things for the nvidia drivers19:53
ioriaNebi  oh man19:53
Nebiioria sorry :)19:53
ioriaNebi   remove nomodeset , sudo update-grub and reboot19:53
Nebiioria ok rebooting19:54
Nebiioria black screen (the loading appeared nice again)19:54
ioriaNebi   open a console and sudo service lightdm restart19:55
Nebiioria WORKED!19:55
ioriaNebi   mmm19:55
Nebiioria X started and everything looks normal!19:56
tomreynbonhoeffer: i suggest you also post another dmesg output. i need to leave for now, though.19:56
ioriaNebi   sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target  and reboot19:56
laptopany proggrams that convert text to sound and mp3 without recording19:57
bonhoeffertomreyn: ok19:57
Nebiioria woohoooo!! rebooted normally!!! THankksss!!!!!!!19:58
ioriaNebi   ok, good job19:58
Nebiioria I was on it the entire day!!! Amazing!19:58
ioriaNebi  it's ok19:59
Nebiioria I'm going now to have a drink on you! You are a hero!20:00
ioriaNebi  no problem mate, have a good drink20:00
Nebiioria thanks, see you around!20:01
ioriaNebi  sure20:01
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nuka-colanuka-cola20:12
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laserbeak4445pyrenamer has disapear from the bionic repos..and the official site for the app are offline. This little app was really handy to batch rename files. Any good alternatives out there?20:20
hanetzeris there somewhere I can view the buildscripts for ubuntu packages in a browser? I'm currently away from my linux rig20:22
slidinghornlaserbeak4445: gprename?20:22
srneohello everbody20:22
nuka-cola_hola20:23
laserbeak4445slidinghorn: are you using it?20:23
slidinghornhanetzer: check out packages.ubuntu.com  you can get the source of any package in the repos including a separate archive of the debian build directory20:24
slidinghornlaserbeak4445: I'm not - I do know it's in the repos though20:24
srneohola nuka20:24
hanetzerslidinghorn: ok, cool. and if I'd like a log of the build?20:24
srneo¿qué pasa hoy?20:25
slidinghorn!es20:25
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:25
laserbeak4445slidinghorn: I will give it a shot. Thank you20:25
slidinghornlaserbeak4445: no problem!20:25
phaedralUpgraded to?20:27
phaedralsorry20:27
flashmozzghello, are symlinks on ubuntu 15.10 broken?20:28
phaedralNot sure what happened there.20:28
phaedralUpgraded to Mint 18 yesterday. Not thrilled. Drop-down boxes don't navigate quite the same.20:29
srneohow is this ubuntu 16.04 lts?20:33
tomreynsrneo: come again?20:34
tomreyn!es | srneo20:35
ubottusrneo: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:35
tomreyn!pt | srneo20:36
ubottusrneo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.20:36
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DraconiatorIs there something similar to CCleaner for Linux?20:43
leftyfbDraconiator: linux doesn't really have those problems20:44
jkemppainenwhile registry issues and fragmentation aren't that much of an issue, something like BleachBit isn't bad20:49
elypticLooking for an Ubuntu compatible < 12" laptop. Any suggestions? Currently looking at either the HP Stream 11 Pro G4 or the Asus VivoBook E203NA. Both 11.6", both have 4GB RAM and 64 GB eMMC. Asus has a dual core Celeron, HP has a quad core Celeron. Any experience / preferences?20:54
laptopi would go with 1gb pentium 4 1 ghz computer20:55
laptopyou can still stream netflix20:55
leftyfblaptop: pleasE don't20:55
laptopi was going to say commodore 6420:56
laptopbut you cannot run linux on it20:56
leftyfblaptop: if you're not going to help, please don't20:56
elypticlaptop: Ya... Not really what I'm looking for. Need ultra portable / cheap / secure for travel.20:57
leftyfbelyptic: your question is one of personal preference and experience of hardware. Not really the scope of this channel.20:57
leftyfbelyptic: you could look to see if system76 or zareason have solutions you're looking for20:57
leftyfbelyptic: other than that, it's not quite your specs, but the Dell XPS 13 comes with ubuntu20:58
elypticleftyfb: Thanks. I'll look there.20:58
leftyfbelyptic: for more information on compatibility, you could also check https://certification.canonical.com/20:59
elypticleftyfb: Thanks. Wasn't aware of that resource.20:59
leftyfbactually, it's https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/20:59
leftyfbsorry20:59
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dman777What is the difference between the cloud install and minimal install?21:21
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ComopollasHi21:26
ComopollasDoes Ubuntu support pollas?21:26
Comopollasi use ubuntu 17.1021:26
TJ-elyptic: as leftyfb says but I'm currently using an Asus T300CHI transformer M-5Y71 1.2GHz 8GB RAM 128GB SSD 12.5" touch and it works very well with U untu 18.04, kernel 4.1521:26
ComopollasHahahaha nice one21:27
ComopollasHey mint21:27
jkemppainenComopollas: please troll elsewhere. thank you21:27
ComopollasAre you German?21:28
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ComopollasSieg heil man21:28
testerplease ban the nazi21:28
jkemppainen!ops Comopollas inappropriate nickname in Spanish, using Nazi speech in channel21:28
ComopollasIm not nazi21:28
ComopollasJust support them in my free time21:28
testeryeah, sieg heil on holocaust tday21:29
* jkemppainen facepalms21:29
ComopollasLol21:29
slidinghornum...wrong person.21:29
oerheks!ops | Comopollas should be banned21:29
ubottuComopollas should be banned: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax21:29
ComopollasCan't wait to see how lts is going to be with these programmers21:30
AiOGajoHi. Can someone help me? I am having trouble installing Ubuntu on my laptop21:30
ComopollasYes21:30
ComopollasWhat version are you using?21:31
ComopollasAnd what's the problem :)21:31
AiOGajoI've try the 16 lts and 17, and the problem is the same21:31
AiOGajoalso the flavours Ubuntu studio21:31
slidinghorn!details | AiOGajo21:32
ubottuAiOGajo: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.21:32
AiOGajoslidinghorn: i am writing21:32
AiOGajoI can run ubuntu from a usb pen and enter live mode, perform a clean install but then when reboot21:33
AiOGajoafter the laptop splash screen i only get a black screen with a cursor on left top corner21:33
ComopollasYou need to install cojones chupador 2.7421:33
slidinghornComopollas: troll elsewhere please21:33
leftyfb!op | Comopollas21:34
ubottuComopollas: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax21:34
AiOGajoComopollas: thank you... i know how to speak spanish and i undestood that21:34
laptopsorry i do not use ubuntu i use bodh21:34
laptopbodhi21:34
leftyfblaptop: Again, if you are not helping, please don't bother chiming in21:34
AiOGajoI am having this problem with Ubuntu and Mint :( But I am not having this problem with Elementary for example and also Deepin...21:35
AiOGajoBut i can run live versons with no problem.21:36
oerheks!nomodeset | maybe this boot option helps, AiOGajo21:36
ubottumaybe this boot option helps, AiOGajo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:36
AiOGajooerheks: I had tried that21:37
ComepollasHi21:37
MarceeZHello all i have problem with appache221:37
ComepollasI think my connection failed. You need chupa cojones21:37
MarceeZHow i can track why my appache2 not starting?21:37
AiOGajoComopollas: thank you... i know how to speak spanish and i undestood that21:37
slidinghorn!op | Comepollas ban evasaion21:37
ubottuComepollas ban evasaion: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax21:37
leftyfbMarceeZ: sudo systemctl status apache221:38
arvin_MarceeZ: check out the log file... $ tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log (and maybe access.log) while you try and access the site21:39
venmxis there meant to be a known issue with the latest kernel image for 16.04? my lappy hangs at boot right after bios but before i can see any messages21:40
Comepollas_Hi21:40
Comepollas_How can I install chupa cojones?21:40
oerheksel21:41
eli'm aware thanks21:41
AiOGajoWell i'll try again... thank you guys21:42
AiOGajo[[]]21:42
ComepollasEi: do you know pollas?21:42
ubuntuHello21:56
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andysom25anyone willing to help with a quick iscsiadm issue ?21:59
YujinShi22:00
slidinghornandysom25: go ahead and ask your question - if someone knows the answerr, they'll respond :)22:01
andysom25sure, so when I do an iscsiadm -m session --rescan because I resized, I get the following error :iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/bus/scsi/devices/7:0:0:0/rescan err 13 iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan err 1322:04
andysom25I resized the partition and I just want that to be picked up by ubuntu22:04
tomreynandysom25: try echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan22:08
andysom25responds with  - /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan22:08
tomreynandysom25: then try your iscsiadm command again22:09
andysom25same error22:09
andysom25iscsiadm -m session --rescan Rescanning session [sid: 1, target: iqn.2000-01.com.synology:RackStation.name, portal: 192.168.1.91,3260] iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/bus/scsi/devices/7:0:0:0/rescan err 13  iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan err 1322:09
tomreynandysom25: are you sure you typed this properly? i dont think it would ever respond with "- /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan"22:10
tomreyni'd expect it to repsond with an error message or nothing at all22:10
andysom25echo /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan22:10
andysom25oh22:11
andysom25here we go22:11
andysom25-bash: /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan: Permission denied22:11
tomreynare you root?22:11
andysom25ahhh22:11
andysom25 hahaha22:11
andysom25that should be it22:11
andysom25lets see22:11
tomreynyou can run it similarily with sudo if you prefer22:12
andysom25hmm rescan happened but did not seem to pickup new space when I look via glances22:12
andysom25oh the gui picks it up though22:12
andysom25interesting22:12
tomreynit either worked or it didn't ;-)22:13
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andysom25gui disks interface shows it22:14
nowayyHello, I often find myself in heavily beating away at some task and then wish to pause that task and work on another more pressing task. Currently I'm using workspaces but I basically just want to have a fresh session. Is this possible on Ubuntu? Maybe with something like switching displays or something?22:22
nowayyscreens*22:22
kostkonnowayy, i dont know. start a 2nd x session on tty8?22:23
bugtraqhay evryone -- .'22:24
kostkonbugtraq, hi22:24
CheetahPixieokay22:27
CheetahPixiecan someone help me with gameport now?22:27
kostkonCheetahPixie, might as well repost your problem22:28
CheetahPixieOr, well, not just Gameport.22:29
CheetahPixieI have a Maestro 2E that doesn't work.22:29
CheetahPixieIt's detected, the driver loads, but it does not appear as a sound device at all.22:29
kostkonCheetahPixie, how old is the card. you mentioned having a gameport. also   aplay -l22:31
CheetahPixieDoesn't show it.22:32
kostkonCheetahPixie, lspci -vv22:33
* tomreyn just stumbled upon a 2003 forum post discussing an ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10) sound card22:34
CheetahPixieYes, I did that.It shows up.22:34
kostkonCheetahPixie, how old is the system it is on22:35
CheetahPixieMy personal rig, out of which the newest component is an RX 480.22:35
nowayykostkon, I switch between virtual consoles using ctrl-alt-f<>. But they don't all open a gnome session. How can I always open a gnome session?22:37
nowayyUbuntu 16.0422:37
CheetahPixieSo nobody has a clue I'm guessing?22:39
kostkonnowayy, what have you done so far regarding the 2nd x session (am i guessing right?)22:39
nowayykostkon, yes. I just switch to it using Ctrl-Alt-F<session-num>. Maybe I need to add some X11 session script?22:40
kostkonnowayy, so you have to manually start gdm every time22:41
nowayyI know *nothing* about this display stuff, kostkon. But is the command just gdm?22:41
kostkonnowayy, oh you are just pressing the buttons, nothing else's been done so far22:44
nowayykostkon, yep22:44
kostkonnowayy, oldie but goodie i guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LALnzOxsZI22:47
drewbertIs there any version of ubuntu that runs the 4.1 kernel?22:48
drewbertMrp: https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life22:49
CheetahPixieWhy do you ask? drewbert22:50
CheetahPixieThere are various ones that use a newer one.22:50
CheetahPixieIf you're looking for a behavior specific to 4.1, you can use a program to install that kernel.22:50
drewbertWe've got an embedded system that runs a 4.1 kernel, and I want to use PyUpdater to package an application for it, but PyUpdater only packages for the system it is running on, so I wanted to be running a 4.1 kernel.22:51
drewbertwhat program do you recommend?22:51
drewbertThat kernel doesn't seem to be in apt for xenial.22:51
CheetahPixieUKUU is the only real one. Is this an Ubuntu system?22:52
oerheksdrewbert, so how is that related to ubuntu, seems like that embeddded does not run ubuntu, right?22:52
drewbertBut the packaging system is running ubuntu. :)22:52
CheetahPixieBut is the target running Ubuntu?22:52
drewbertNo22:53
CheetahPixieIt'd seem a little silly to start trying to get a .deb installed on a Red Hat system or the like.22:53
CheetahPixieWhat Linux does it run?22:53
CheetahPixieWhy not use that distro on the packaging system?22:53
CheetahPixie(I'm guessing Tinycore.)22:53
leftyfbdrewbert: you'll need to seek support for your distribution22:53
drewbertIt's running a house-rolled distribution that has no package systems on it.22:54
leftyfbdrewbert: ok, then you're on your own22:54
leftyfbdrewbert: This channel is only for ubuntu22:54
drewbertWell seeing as how my question is about how to install a specific kernel version on ubuntu, I think it's fair game.22:55
CheetahPixieSo why is Ubuntu equivalent to that system?22:55
leftyfbdrewbert: sudo apt install linux-image-<version>22:56
drewbertPyUpdater packages everything up-to but excluding libc.22:56
leftyfbthat's how you install a kernel in ubuntu22:56
CheetahPixieUKUU makes it a bunch simpler, though.22:56
CheetahPixieNot to mention 4.1 is wildly outdated and not an LTS kernel.22:56
CheetahPixie(At least not in Ubuntu land, but Debian may be different.)22:57
oerheksdrewbert, try ##linux perhaps?22:59
drewbertThanks oerheks and CheetahPixie, I've got some leads to investigate now. :)23:00
CheetahPixieEnjoy.23:00
Nokajiis there a simple way to de-archive a .dmg file? (apple disk image)23:00
CheetahPixieNokaji Archive Manager doesn't work?23:00
NokajiI've tried installing pzip and arxhive maner (file-roller??)23:00
NokajiCheckmate: doesn't recognise format ..23:01
Nokajipparently should do once pzip installed, maybe I need to reboot23:01
Nokajimaybe I'll reboot into windows23:01
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CheetahPixieBy the way drewbert kernels down to 4.0 are available on the newest release.23:05
CheetahPixie...although that's a Vivid Vervet kernel, probably a bad idea to run.23:06
CheetahPixieAnd up to 4.1.48 in your range.23:06
CheetahPixieThe 18 oldest are Wily Werewolf kernels.23:06
quartieHello23:07
CheetahPixieHello and goodmorning.23:07
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nowayykostkon, so I ctl-alt-F1 to enter the first TTY1 shell. Then I enter 'startx -- :1' and the new Ubuntu session starts. However it's flawed: there isn't the top or left bars. Also my dual monitor setup is not preserved. Finally when I go back to the original GUI session using ctl-alt-F7, I'm logged out from it.23:20
nowayyaren't*23:20
kostkonnowayy, might be able to fine tune it a bit if you can find a proper how-to23:24
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DrakeskywingHey all, weird issue I can't seem to find a solution for, using a dual screen display with my laptop, it seems the secondary display is working, though I can only click on the sidebar, none of the windows on the secondary display (my inbuilt) are working. Using ubuntu 16.04, any help is appreciated, and I have tried to find a solution but can't think of anything else to google23:59

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