[00:00] best mmorpg for ubuntu [00:01] laptop: Look for mmorpg's using the software center and try them out to determine which one you think is best [00:01] laptop: your question is not a support question [00:01] laptop: also, best is relative === solarius is now known as brightstar === Spaz is now known as Spax === brightstar is now known as solarflux [00:07] is it still ok to use ubuntu 14.04 for development? or are apps needing more and more the system update, and it wouldn't be recommended? [00:08] one more year of support [00:10] what is bodhi based upon version 4.5 [00:11] brian_wilson: I would suggest sticking with 16.04 or even 18.04 which will be out in a couple weeks [00:11] laptop: we do not support bodhi here [00:12] @brian_wilson Related, I was looking at Android development and they recommended 14.04 and said some things don't work in 16.04. I don't know what, or why. [00:13] Spax: thanks a bunch for that info, cause I do develop apps for android [00:15] brian_wilson: this doesn't matter too much, though, since you can always run another ubuntu release in a chroot, lxd, docker container or PV/HVM === ibttis is now known as adhadskhsadjhkdh === adhadskhsadjhkdh is now known as ibttis [00:50] Hi All... I wanted to raise a question in this room to you all. I am looking to install ubuntu or perhaps another distro to be used for everyday purposes. I will be using it for development and running 3 or vms. Would Ubuntu make a good and solid host for this, or would another distro be better in terms of my purpose. [00:55] AJ2: Ubuntu will work just fine for your needs [01:04] but i guess i really want to know why someone picks to use ubuntu vs opensuse or something else [01:06] AJ2 您使用什么系统？ [01:06] yes yh [01:07] AJ2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten scroll down to >What distro? [01:09] I use win10 and gnomeubuntu1604 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:12] AJ2: that's not a support question. Try out ubuntu and make the decision yourself based on your own personal needs and preferences [01:13] quick silly question: people are telling me to add some code to ~/.gtkrc-2.0, but I have no clue as to where it is and how [01:13] is it inside of the 'root' folder? [01:14] sorry for that, I'm a newbiw [01:14] newbie* [01:14] brian_wilson: did you try to edit it? [01:14] I'm not sure where it is, so... [01:14] no [01:14] ~/.gtkrc-2.0 is the location [01:14] brian_wilson: try ls -l ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [01:14] brian_wilson: that will show you where it is [01:16] brian_wilson: ~ is just a shortcut to your home directory [01:16] oh [01:16] brian_wilson: who is telling you to add something to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and why? [01:16] it says there is no such file or folder [01:16] brian_wilson: probably true, but it did you show that it tried looking in your home directory correct? [01:16] forum, wanted to change a the look of the panel on my distro [01:17] correct [01:17] brian_wilson: which distro? [01:17] xubuntu [01:17] Hey brian_wilson, The xubuntu support channel is #xubuntu, not here :) [01:18] it's no big deal, honestly. it's just that the panel doesn't hide completely [01:18] alright [01:18] hahah, sorry [01:18] It's okay, you're welcome ^^" [01:18] I'll check it there [01:18] all i'm getting is errors when i try to compile and install Libstdc++ https://pastebin.com/LRnNBDpU [01:18] Thanks ^^ [01:19] The_Mec: why are you trying to compile libstdc++? [01:20] i'm building my own Linux and i need to install this to a folder. but it wont compile at all. and its a fresh download [01:20] The_Mec: try #linux [01:21] well i'm doing it on top of Ubuntu [01:21] The_Mec, leftyfb means ##linux [01:21] #linux is invite-only [01:22] ya i've asked there already. nobody said anything [01:22] The_Mec: If you're trying to make your own distribution to the point of compiling your own C library, you are well beyond the scope of this channel [01:22] i'll go somewhere else then [01:22] The_Mec: why are you trying to create your own distribution at this level? === avicennasis_ is now known as Avic [01:23] http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ <--cuz i found a book on how to create your own linux os. and figured i'd try it out [01:24] The_Mec: That isn't for the faint of heart and requires a TON of reading and understanding of the linux kernel and filesystem [01:25] i know enough. its just this one library that isnt compiling right. [01:25] !info uck | The_Mec [01:25] The_Mec: uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 (artful), package size 145 kB, installed size 384 kB [01:25] i'm just gonna check my dependencies first === DrNoNeck_ is now known as RealIgor [01:35] The_Mec: can I suggest maybe Gentoo if you want to compile everything from source? [01:36] Skaface82: perhaps not suggest other Os in #ubuntu would be most helpfull [01:37] i didnt know that was frowned upon, sorry [01:37] Skaface82: well i think there are cool solutions from the ubuntu point of view dont you think too? [01:39] Skaface82: unless the user asks himself the support of another Os we can forward to proper chan or !alis [01:39] I have no idea, I was just suggesting what has worked for me in the past [01:39] /nick DrNoNeck [01:47] hi === edwin_ is now known as Guest6636 [01:48] Guest6636: welcome, how can we help you? [02:00] hello all. I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install - I apt-get update/upgrade on 4/1 and sudo rebooted. Now, I get initramfs, telling me cannot mount root, same filesystem, try init args, etc. It is a SSD drive, fsck returns no errors. I can see the files in root and / [02:02] I plan on getting a new Ryzen 2 and use LTS. Are there kenrel updates with LTS so I can get future Ryzen 2 features enabled? [02:02] FaTaL_G, Do you know how to access the GRUB menu during startup to load an older kernel? [02:02] Im googleing of course, and to be honest, not sure where to begin trouble shooting since everything I've found is where people needed to clean their fs. Thats not my issue here, and fstab (although it is irrelevant until boot) is clean and unmodified. Anyone willing to help me dig alittle? [02:02] I know how to access the grub menu [02:02] dman777, Give me a moment and I'll find out if it's supported yet :) [02:03] but there arent options for an older one in there. however I could copy one down since Im mounted live atm [02:04] stevendale: even if it's not supported yet...what about driver refinements later on for LTS? [02:05] dman777, Ryzen 2 hasn't been released yet, until developers are able to recieve their preorders, I doubt there will be a good featureset in Linux [02:06] actually stevendale, since Im in live mount atm, I could probably hand enter some, although I havent played in grub2 [02:06] You could also backup files in your home directory and reinstall FaTaL_G o/ [02:06] stevendale: but if I choose LTS, am I locked into just one kernel version? or do they have kernel updates for lts? [02:06] true, and beleive me, I might, but Im far more interested in solving it [02:07] dman777, LTS will recieve kernel updates, yes [02:07] You can also install custom kernels in LTS releases [02:07] stevendale: cool, thanks [02:07] No problem dman777 :) [02:07] Im using this machine as my main router, been solid for a few months until that update/upgrade/reboot. It ***should not*** have hosed itself, and it wasnt user error, so Im on amission [02:09] FaTaL_G: check it's /var/log/apt/history.log to get an idea if some packages were removed that you weren't expecting [02:09] FaTaL_G: does it have a separate file-system for /boot/ ? [02:10] its a "router" machine, and I'm running an i5-8th. I was/am very curious if its sptectre/meltdown related with i8 [02:10] FaTaL_G: if so, I wonder if it was not mounted at the time, so only one kernel get's installed, a new grub.cfg gets written, but on next boot GRUB won't see that since it's in the rootfs and GRUB is still reading the separate /boot/ [02:11] TJ-, no, its default 16.04 recommended options for Ubuntu (I curse accepting the recommendation LOL), and it is brtfs lvm with /root and / on /sda5 [02:11] FaTaL_G: have you mounted the broken system in a chroot so you can fully explore/fix it? [02:11] hello, i am currently having a problem with a usb wifi card. I am using ubuntu 16.04. In journctl I see this as and error but no other errors: [02:12] wpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: wpa_dbus_get_object_properties: failed to get object properties: (none) none [02:12] wpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: Failed to construct signal [02:13] im not sure why this is happening. Initially i thought i was tinkering and messed something up, but this is a freshly installed updated and upgraded ubuntu [02:13] FaTaL_G: btrfs? That's not a recommended install that I've ever seen, especially when using LVM [02:13] TJ-, I'm booted into a live 16.04 destop atm. And I have the filsystem mounted, but before mounting, it checked fine [02:13] FaTaL_G: what directory path is it mounted to? [02:14] TJ- now tht it is mounted, /media/ubuntu/786685895865575r875r (twoof them, one for root, one for /) [02:16] FaTaL_G: ok, so mounted by udisks. I'd recommend unmounting that from the GUI then doing "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /target" [02:17] xromulus: can you check wich chipset your card is? [02:17] FaTaL_G: then, assuming the rootfs is now showing up correct under /target/ you can prepare for a chroot with "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done" [02:17] FaTaL_G: and then "chroot /target /bin/bash" and you're inside it and can use commands to repair it. "exit" to leave the chroot [02:18] TJ-, what specifically might I be looking for (package type) in history...... [02:19] TJ-, why chroot it unless I have something to test on it? [02:19] FaTaL_G: just generally seeing if there's signs that linux-image-* packages were removed, which would explain why the older kernels are still installed. Also, if you're in the chroot you can do "apt list linux-image-* --installed" to find out what *should* be installed [02:19] FaTaL_G: chroot means you're working in the broken OS [02:19] lotuspsychje: lsusb says: Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter [02:20] is that the correct information? [02:20] TJ-, meaning, if it IS broken, even though it tells me it is not, wouldnt running commands on it with it mounted hose it? [02:20] FaTaL_G: no [02:20] TJ-, alright, I'll give it a shot. Any idea on what package to look for btw in history? [02:21] xromulus: yeah tnx, is your system up to date to latest? [02:21] FaTaL_G: if apt reports those linux-image-* packages are installed but the associated /boot/vmlinuz-* file is missing, then that tells you the file-system has been messed up, for example [02:21] lotuspsychje: fresh install and full update and upgrade [02:21] TJ-, I have zabbix, libraw1, lshw, plymouth* [02:22] FaTaL_G: usually at least 3 kernels should remain installed for example, so if there are not 3 /boot/vmlinuz_* but "apt list ..." shows 3 versions installed, then you've got a bug clue [02:22] ahaa, good to know. although not sure I ever saw >2 [02:22] this was a server release [02:23] FaTaL_G: where are you seeing zabbix, libraw1, etc ? not in the root of the mounted rootfs? [02:23] Brb [02:24] xromulus: linux-firmware installed? [02:25] hi all, i have ubuntu installed on a 2011 macbook, and plugging my external display into the mini-displayport doesn't seem to be working. wondering if anybody could lend me a hand with troubleshooting. [02:26] TJ-, in the apt history [02:26] i'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though [02:26] lotuspsychje: "linux-firmware is already the newest version (1.157.17)." [02:26] FaTaL_G: oh, so nothing relevant to kernel/initrd issues then [02:26] TJ-, I didnt see a new kernel [02:26] TJ-, nope [02:26] xromulus: how about driver version at bottom on: sudo lshw -C network ? [02:27] TJ-, or grub for that matter [02:27] FaTaL_G: so check which /boot/vmlinuz-* files are present and compare with what 'apt list ...' shows [02:27] TJ-, I'll looka t a few of the previous ones, just in case. since I dont reboot everytime [02:27] tgould: usually, if a new output is detected "xrandr -q" should show it even if it's not in use [02:28] TJ- I ahve to wait until Im ch'd for that right? [02:28] FaTaL_G: for the 'apt' command yes, but not just to list its /boot/ directory [02:29] i'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though [02:29] yikes, sorry for the double post ^ [02:30] FaTaL_G: /boot/ should have a matching initrd.img for each vmlinuz to start with. That's the first check. The next is to check /etc/fstab has the correct entry for the root file-system (since that gets copied into the initrd.img). From a chroot, you can also rebuild the initrd.img with "update-initramfs -vu" [02:30] lotuspsychje: driver=rt2800usb driverversion=4.13.0-38-generic [02:32] brb [02:32] TJ-, well, there is a initrd-img 4.3.13.0-32-generic, dated the date all hell broke loose [02:33] there's also an old-dkms same name, diff size [02:33] lotuspsychje: thank for helping.. i have to run to the store real quick ill be back in 15 [02:33] xromulus: allright mate [02:33] my bad, file was -36, not 32, 32 was from feb === Elimin8r is now known as Elimin8er [02:38] TJ-, so the vmlinusz files are 0-32 and 0-36 and edited last back in feb, however the 0-36 initrd.img 0-36 was edited the day I rebooted, is this kosher or suspect? [02:42] FaTaL_G: well, some packages cause the initrd to be regenerated, but it suggests when that happened the info about the rootfs that was added is incorrect, so you need to check the /etc/fstab is correct, and if not correct it, then do a "chroot /target /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -vu" [02:43] yikes [02:43] "aufs / aufs rw 0 0" & "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0" [02:44] FaTaL_G: are you looking that the /etc/fstab of the *live* ISO, or inside the broken OS? (under /target/ as in /target/etc/fstab) [02:44] I havent edited fstab on a lvm system before, so not sure what it should look like, but that looks lame [02:44] LVM is just another block device like a partition [02:45] Ithought it was mounted one, but I must have used /, newb [02:45] There is a file-system in a Logical Volume [02:45] TJ-, "xrandr -q" only shows my laptop's built-in display. I also see nothing in "udevadm monitor" when I unplug and replug the device. I think the port itself may be broken -- is there a good way to confirm this? [02:47] Hello? [02:47] TJ-, of, the real fstab: "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1" and a comment for boot was on dev/sda1, and a "UUID=565789765467 /boot" (looks right) and a dev/mapper for swap [02:47] looks ok? [02:47] tgould: on a Mac, I'm not sure. Would an external DP monitor be expected to be active if you enter the firmware setup at boot time? That's be 1 way to prove whether it works [02:47] FaTaL_G: wooooaaa! [02:48] FaTaL_G: "UUID=565789765467 /boot" says 2 things: 1) there's a separate /boot/ file-system and 2) is UUID=565789765467 the full UUID or did you just type random characteres? [02:49] I typed random ;) [02:49] FaTaL_G: Grrr! [02:49] it mathces what was mounted by the auto moount lie cd under media [02:49] FaTaL_G: OK, so, the 1st thing to check is that file-system has free space remaining - a common problem is /boot/ running out of space [02:50] still an issue these days huh? [02:50] FaTaL_G: have you configured the chroot yet ? [02:50] no. beed anges since I've done that. Got a link I can follow or something to google for? [02:51] FaTaL_G: do it now: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root /target" [02:51] I have that alread [02:51] thats how I told you what was in fstab [02:51] FaTaL_G: did you bind-mount proc sys dev ... etc ? [02:51] no? [02:52] I've chrooted like 2 times in my life haha [02:52] FaTaL_G: prepare it for chroot with "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done" [02:54] the /target/$n sould be /mnt/target/$n right? [02:54] Err, no, not if you used the commands I gave earlier [02:55] I had mounted it as /mnt/target-root/, just checking [02:57] TJ-, tells me the mount for resolv.conf is a mount to nowhere [02:58] once you've done that you can enter it with "sudo chroot /mnt/target-root" ... then do "mount -a" so it automounts the entries in it's fstab, then do "df -h" to check if /boot/ has free space [02:58] TJ-, well, resolv.conf isnt there [02:59] there is resov.conf.d/ dir [02:59] FaTaL_G: OK, don't worrry about that one, it's used to give the chroot DNS resolution [02:59] We do that so the chroot can send logs to pastebin [02:59] rgr [03:01] TJ-, df -h gave me no worries [03:01] all <35% [03:02] FaTaL_G: right, so some choices here. 1) regenerate the initrd.img files and then reboot to test - if that doesn't solve it you've got to do the LiveISO boot again 2) explore but I'm not too sure what we can look for since you've verified fstab [03:02] mapper root is 102G (SSD drive is 128 all for linux), udev is 3.8, and sda1 (boot) is 472MB with 201MB free [03:03] FaTaL_G: you could extract the current initrd.img and look at it's content to find out what the rootfs is set to [03:03] tarball extract to a location? [03:04] given that it has a 4/2 date, its a late april fools joke by ubuntu? j/k... sure, Im interested in looking and even moreso how to regenerate it [03:05] maybe then I can go post to some of the forums that only indicated fsck that "if fsck is clean, do this...." to verify.... [03:06] what do you recommend I lok at while Im in the chroot env? [03:07] FaTaL_G: indentify the most recent version "ls -latr /boot/vmlinuz-*" [03:08] it just shows me the two entries I told you about, 4.13.0-32 & 36 [03:08] 36 date is 2/16 [03:11] FaTaL_G: OK, so: "mkdir -p /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/initrd" then "gunzip /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id" [03:12] FaTaL_G: that should extract the files; use "ls -l" to check you see a minimal root file-system layout with bin/ conf/ lib/ and several other directories [03:13] btw... [03:13] when I tried "e" in grub, and selecte the 0.32 file instead of the 0.36 I was getting the same dump out to initeamfs [03:14] FaTaL_G: I'm wondering if you managed to remove the lvm tooling somehow. That's what we need to check once you've extracted the files [03:15] premature end of archive from cpio, is that expected? [03:16] FaTaL_G: no; that means it may not the gzip compressed. Find what kind the file is with "file /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic" [03:16] s/may not the/may not be/ [03:17] ASCII cpio archive SVR4 [03:17] love the regex [03:18] that's interesting, it's not compressed [03:18] ASCII cpio archive SVR4 with no CRC <--- even [03:18] FaTaL_G: OK, so: "cat /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id" [03:19] 194 blocks [03:20] good, so "ls -l" you should see the directories and files [03:21] via ..kernel/x86/microcode/GenuineIntel.bin [03:21] and this is dated 4/14, go figure [03:21] the date of the file inside is newer tahn the "archive" [03:22] FaTaL_G: oh shoot! the initrd has microcode prefix so we can't easily extract the real initrd files [03:22] ignore my stupid date comment hhahahaha [03:22] I have a script that can unpack that, but your chroot didn't get DNS so can't easily wget it [03:23] we;; [03:23] well.... [03:23] I can save it, and regen, then look inside after reboot [03:23] don't need to. [03:23] type "exit" to leave the chroot [03:23] lol true [03:23] its on the fs haha [03:25] now do "sudo wget -O /mnt/target-root/initrd-extract.bash http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/initrd-extract.bash" [03:25] this fetches the script and puts it inside the chroot so you will be able to use it [03:26] lotuspsychje: I'm back. so what do you think? [03:28] no-ip ;) [03:28] Im back in ch [03:29] xromulus: its always a pain to get those ralinks to work [03:29] xromulus: TJ- helped me once on those ralink chipset, cant recall what we did [03:30] xromulus: you sure you updated to .4 yeah? [03:30] FaTaL_G: did you wget the file first before re-entering ? [03:30] lotuspsychje: what's weird is it totally worked for a while. months even. but it just randomly acts strange [03:30] ofc [03:30] lotuspsychje: .4? [03:30] yea, im in/ ch. and reading the bash contents [03:30] $1 [03:30] FaTaL_G: It's way past my bed-time, I'm going to have to leave now. Hopefully someone else can help. [03:30] xromulus: 16.04.4 [03:31] FaTaL_G: "cd /tmp/initrd; bash /initrd-extract.bash /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic" [03:32] xromulus: lsb_release -a to check [03:32] well tyvm for the help then. This has been educational. I can always wait to proceed and pickup when I see you here next. But I'll dig carefully in the meantime [03:32] FaTaL_G: then you'll have a new directory 4.13.0-36-generic/ inside of which is the extracted initrd files [03:33] lotuspsychje: im using linux mint 18.3 but I was using the latest ubuntu with the same problem [03:33] FaTaL_G: so "/tmp/initrd/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic" then do "find . -name '*lvm*' " --- that should report around 11 files related to LVM. If not, lvm is likely missing and that would explain the failure. [03:33] Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 (stretch) [03:33] o/ [03:33] FaTaL_G: to rebuild the initrd.img: "update-initramfs -u" [03:33] xromulus: we can only support you on vanilla ubuntu [03:34] ok :( [03:34] ok, ty [03:34] xromulus: try different kernels too? [03:34] it used to work.. i actually think an update may have caused the issue [03:36] FaTaL_G: if on a reboot it drops to the busybox shell again, then do some exploring. First thing to do is see if the LVM devices have been opened by doing "ls /dev/mapper/" - the rootfs name should be there "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root " ... if not, try "lvm vgchange -ay" and check again [03:37] FaTaL_G: once that has shown up doing "Ctrl+D" to resume the init process should get the system to boot [03:37] 9 files [03:38] ok will do, gn & ty [03:38] FaTaL_G: here I see 4 scripts, 2 lib, 4 etc and 1 sbin [03:38] 4 scripts, 2 etc, 2 lib [03:39] is bionic any good [03:39] 1 sbin [03:40] FaTaL_G: that's about right, so nothing to worry about. I've got a different config [03:40] FaTaL_G: so, I think regen the initrd and try a reboot [03:40] "update-initramfs -u" [03:41] FaTaL_G: oh! one last check ensure the rootfs is set correctly in grub. "update-grub" too [03:42] already rebooted [03:42] ahhaha [03:42] but will have to go back in if it doesnt work [03:43] same thing [03:44] right back to initramfs [03:45] is /dev/mapper/ empty? [03:45] well, there should be "control" node in there [03:46] FaTaL_G: you should be seeing TARDIS--vg-root [03:46] also confirm that is on the kernel command-line: "cat /proc/cmdline" [03:46] it should show "root=/dev/mapper//dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root " [03:47] oops, no [03:47] it should show "root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root " [03:50] dev mapper has TARDIS--vg-swap_1 -> ../dm-0 [03:50] and control [03:50] no root === Wulf4 is now known as Wulf [03:51] cat /proc/cmdline is two diamonds [03:53] FaTaL_G: whuh? [03:54] no wonder! [03:54] yea really [03:54] cat proc/cmdline shows two diamonds [03:54] high ascii [03:54] so, that "update-grub" would have fixed it, or should have [03:55] let me check in the /init script if you can do a temporary workaround to make it boot now [03:55] praise the tech gods . data has been recovered [03:55] grats redoasis? [03:55] yessss [03:56] would update grun need valid dns? I can set it up the hard way ;) [03:56] Anybody Have Anything on Editing in An Hotkey For U+2E41) to Make Viz [Cntrl] , Enter Reversed (⹁) [03:57] FaTaL_G: this may work: "/init root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root" [03:57] FaTaL_G: update-grub doesn't need network, it reads the kernels in /boot/ and the /etc/fstab entry, and builds /boot/grub/grub.cfg [03:58] one thing tho [03:58] when I told you what was in /dev/mapper, it was swap, the root wasnt there [03:59] FaTaL_G: oh, didn't spot that! [03:59] I read 1 of my own lines by mistake [03:59] How can I get info on what kind of trackpad i'm using? [03:59] but we know root is there/good, lol, we mounted it live [03:59] FaTaL_G: try "lvm vgchange -ay" [04:00] FaTaL_G: then check in /dev/mapper/ again [04:00] socket connect failed: no such file or dir failed to connect to lvmetad [04:01] falling back to internal scanning [04:01] That's expecting when in the initrd [04:01] lvmmeta daemon only starts when the real init and root-fs are active [04:01] well... now its hung or something [04:02] that's informative ... it must be trying and failing to activate root === HungoverHotDog is now known as HappyHotDog [04:03] FaTaL_G: if/when it it returns to the shell, try running it with debug enabled: "lvm vgchange -d -ay" [04:03] "-ay" means Activate Yes [04:04] gparted had it marked active in live disk [04:04] I didnt change anything there at all. Just looked :) [04:05] it seems hung. I mean, its an i5 machine and a ssd, so this isnt rocket science to scan for a partition ahhaha [04:05] I dont want to keep you up, I appreciate all that you've done this far. I'll continue to dig and learn [04:08] If vgchange has hung that's a major problem, and points to something more serious, especailly as you regenerated the initrd.img [04:08] we can't blame corruption inside the initrd.img [04:09] the corrupted /proc/cmdline is also a big problem. [04:09] combined, I wonder if something is failing in the PC, or not performing correctly. Overheating possibly. Has it's fans and air vents been cleaned and checked recently? [04:10] its brand new... relatively speaking [04:11] its an 8th gen cpu [04:11] thus, new hardware all around, purchased in Jan [04:11] very clean machine, and while running in live mode, no issues in performance [04:12] the corrupted /proc/cmdline makes me think of RAM module problems; reboot it and do a memtest on it (from GRUB menu) [04:12] I don't think this is a 'simple' software/file installation issue, it feels like something more [04:13] hmmmmm [04:13] and with that I'm off to bed, it's gone 5aM! [04:13] I uninstalled gnome a week before I rebooted.... [04:14] not sure if I rebooted then, but ok. Thank you === fullstack_ is now known as fullstack [04:47] Anybody Have Anything on Editing in An Hotkey For U+2E41) to Make Viz [Cntrl] , Enter Reversed (⹁) [05:05] quit === kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar [05:15] TJ- was awesome & thanks stevendale for also offering to help. After rebuilding grub, its working [05:16] Hey FaTaL_G :) [05:17] O.o what did you buikd? [05:17] build* [05:17] repaired' [05:17] It wasn't my area of expertise, but I tried to help anyway FaTaL_G, you're welcome, thanks for taking over what I couldn't handle TJ- [05:18] he signed off [05:18] Im going to thank him tom assuming he'll be back [05:18] matty: a homebrew router, running 16.04 LTS [05:18] server [05:19] FaTaL_G, thats pretty rad. You use a micro box or tower/server shell? [05:19] My girl was just recently talking about taking on such a project [05:20] I went all out. Considered an alibaba type solution, but after reading mixed reviews in general, decided I'd go with something that was a workhorse for my fios [05:20] We have a dual core (2.ghz) w/ 4GB of ram just sitting around and about 4 routers throughout the house lol [05:20] fios...*drools* [05:21] i5-8th, 16g mem, and an ssd drive [05:21] a bit overkill for a router no? [05:21] lol [05:21] got a nice asrock mobo [05:21] yep!\ [05:21] just a bit [05:21] thats what up, how many nic cards did you use in it? [05:21] however [05:22] Im still a bit annoyed, but its more about me learning [05:22] the hardware I have is authentic, but getting 1gb was not happening [05:22] and with 1 load on my betgear it would [05:22] but the netgears are .... well, .... incinsistent [05:22] hell yeah they are [05:22] -i +o [05:23] my R7000 is better than my R8500 [05:23] I could get 934Mbps up and down SOMETIMES [05:23] We are kind of in the same situation. Lots of house to cover and lots of devices and of the shelf hardware wont cut it but some of the higher end routers are too pricy for the little bit of work they do [05:23] Rather build one out myself [05:24] but with the ubuntu router I get 780's.... So I still need to optimize, tune, and find out where it is choking [05:24] agreed [05:24] with the[rice of the R9000 [05:24] and the fact that it still sucks.... [05:24] Can anyone reccomend a good email client? [05:24] Thats pretty cool man, good for you. My girl use to build clusters (since moved on) for gov entities and companies' [05:25] So shes looking for a project we can both hop on. Router seemd to fit the bil [05:25] About how many hours did you put in it from start to "thi'll do for now" [05:26] went with a deny iptables, and put on a number of ips/ids etc, and kept them off to see max throughput [05:26] so was sad it wasnt the 934Mbps at all, when I expected it to be 100% [05:27] hard to give an honest answer [05:27] Sounds like youre at the point where you need to doublecheck your hardware [05:27] I read a ton on web forums of others trials and tribulations [05:27] and I was insistent on including wireless built in [05:27] hell yeah, we wont do it without wireless [05:27] good call on that [05:27] I went ASUS PCI-88U [05:28] most advice was and still is to use a router for that [05:28] and just dedicate a port on the pc for the wired link to the rest [05:29] the linux support/availability for quality wireless with hotspot capability is, light [05:29] hell, station like cards are hard to find [05:29] Light...thats being nice [05:29] Always has been and always will be [05:30] https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/PCE-AC88/ [05:30] Im happy with that, but getting it running right on ubuntu was no walk in the aprk [05:30] oh...thats special [05:30] no 5GHZ? [05:30] yes it is [05:31]