[00:00] <laptop> best mmorpg for ubuntu
[00:01] <leftyfb> laptop: Look for mmorpg's using the software center and try them out to determine which one you think is best
[00:01] <leftyfb> laptop: your question is not a support question
[00:01] <leftyfb> laptop: also, best is relative
[00:07] <brian_wilson> is it still ok to use ubuntu 14.04 for development? or are apps needing more and more the system update, and  it wouldn't be recommended?
[00:08] <compdoc> one more year of support
[00:10] <laptop> what is bodhi based upon version 4.5
[00:11] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: I would suggest sticking with 16.04 or even 18.04 which will be out in a couple weeks
[00:11] <leftyfb> laptop: we do not support bodhi here
[00:12] <Spax> @brian_wilson Related, I was looking at Android development and they recommended 14.04 and said some things don't work in 16.04. I don't know what, or why.
[00:13] <brian_wilson> Spax: thanks a bunch for that info, cause I do develop apps for android
[00:15] <tomreyn> brian_wilson:  this doesn't matter too much, though, since you can always run another ubuntu release in a chroot, lxd, docker container or PV/HVM
[00:50] <AJ2> Hi All... I wanted to raise a question in this room to you all.  I am looking to install ubuntu or perhaps another distro to be used for everyday purposes.  I will be using it for development and running 3 or vms.  Would Ubuntu make a good and solid host for this, or would another distro be better in terms of my purpose.
[00:55] <leftyfb> AJ2: Ubuntu will work just fine for your needs
[01:04] <AJ2> but i guess i really want to know why someone picks to use ubuntu vs opensuse or something else
[01:06] <yh> AJ2 您使用什么系统？
[01:06] <AJ2> yes yh
[01:07] <CarlFK> AJ2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten   scroll down to >What distro?
[01:09] <yh> I use win10 and gnomeubuntu1604
[01:12] <leftyfb> AJ2: that's not a support question. Try out ubuntu and make the decision yourself based on your own personal needs and preferences
[01:13] <brian_wilson> quick silly question: people are telling me to add some code to ~/.gtkrc-2.0, but I have no clue as to where it is and how
[01:13] <brian_wilson> is it inside of the 'root' folder?
[01:14] <brian_wilson> sorry for that, I'm a newbiw
[01:14] <brian_wilson> newbie*
[01:14] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: did you try to edit it?
[01:14] <brian_wilson> I'm not sure where it is, so...
[01:14] <brian_wilson> no
[01:14] <leftyfb> ~/.gtkrc-2.0 is the location
[01:14] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: try ls -l ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[01:14] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: that will show you where it is
[01:16] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: ~ is just a shortcut to your home directory
[01:16] <brian_wilson> oh
[01:16] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: who is telling you to add something to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and why?
[01:16] <brian_wilson> it says there is no such file or folder
[01:16] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: probably true, but it did you show that it tried looking in your home directory correct?
[01:16] <brian_wilson> forum, wanted to change a the look of the panel on my distro
[01:17] <brian_wilson> correct
[01:17] <leftyfb> brian_wilson: which distro?
[01:17] <brian_wilson> xubuntu
[01:17] <stevendale> Hey brian_wilson, The xubuntu support channel is #xubuntu, not here :)
[01:18] <brian_wilson> it's no big deal, honestly. it's just that the panel doesn't hide completely
[01:18] <brian_wilson> alright
[01:18] <brian_wilson> hahah, sorry
[01:18] <stevendale> It's okay, you're welcome ^^"
[01:18] <brian_wilson> I'll check it there
[01:18] <The_Mec>   all i'm getting is errors when i try to compile and install Libstdc++ https://pastebin.com/LRnNBDpU
[01:18] <stevendale> Thanks ^^
[01:19] <leftyfb> The_Mec: why are you trying to compile libstdc++?
[01:20] <The_Mec> i'm building my own Linux and i need to install this to a folder. but it wont compile at all. and its a fresh download
[01:20] <leftyfb> The_Mec: try #linux
[01:21] <The_Mec> well i'm doing it on top of Ubuntu
[01:21] <stevendale> The_Mec, leftyfb  means ##linux
[01:21] <stevendale> #linux is invite-only
[01:22] <The_Mec> ya i've asked there already. nobody said anything
[01:22] <leftyfb> The_Mec: If you're trying to make your own distribution to the point of compiling your own C library, you are well beyond the scope of this channel
[01:22] <The_Mec> i'll go somewhere else then
[01:22] <leftyfb> The_Mec: why are you trying to create your own distribution at this level?
[01:23] <The_Mec> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/  <--cuz i found a book on how to create your own linux os. and figured i'd try it out
[01:24] <leftyfb> The_Mec: That isn't for the faint of heart and requires a TON of reading and understanding of the linux kernel and filesystem
[01:25] <The_Mec> i know enough. its just this one library that isnt compiling right.
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> !info uck | The_Mec
[01:25] <The_Mec> i'm just gonna check my dependencies first
[01:35] <Skaface82> The_Mec: can I suggest maybe Gentoo if you want to compile everything from source?
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: perhaps not suggest other Os in #ubuntu would be most helpfull
[01:37] <Skaface82> i didnt know that was frowned upon, sorry
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: well i think there are cool solutions from the ubuntu point of view dont you think too?
[01:39] <lotuspsychje> Skaface82: unless the user asks himself the support of another Os we can forward to proper chan or !alis
[01:39] <Skaface82> I have no idea, I was just suggesting what has worked for me in the past
[01:39] <DrNoNeck_>  /nick  DrNoNeck
[01:47] <edwin_> hi
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest6636: welcome, how can we help you?
[02:00] <FaTaL_G> hello all. I'm having an issue with my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS install - I apt-get update/upgrade on 4/1 and sudo rebooted. Now, I get initramfs, telling me cannot mount root, same filesystem, try init args, etc. It is a SSD drive, fsck returns no errors. I can see the files in root and /
[02:02] <dman777> I plan on getting a new Ryzen 2 and use LTS. Are there kenrel updates with LTS so I can get future Ryzen 2 features enabled?
[02:02] <stevendale> FaTaL_G, Do you know how to access the GRUB menu during startup to load an older kernel?
[02:02] <FaTaL_G> Im googleing of course, and to be honest, not sure where to begin trouble shooting since everything I've found is where people needed to clean their fs. Thats not my issue here, and fstab (although it is irrelevant until boot) is clean and unmodified. Anyone willing to help me dig alittle?
[02:02] <FaTaL_G> I know how to access the grub menu
[02:02] <stevendale> dman777, Give me a moment and I'll find out if it's supported yet :)
[02:03] <FaTaL_G> but there arent options for an older one in there. however I could copy one down since Im mounted live atm
[02:04] <dman777> stevendale: even if it's not supported yet...what about driver refinements later on for LTS?
[02:05] <stevendale> dman777, Ryzen 2 hasn't been released yet, until developers are able to recieve their preorders, I doubt there will be a good featureset in Linux
[02:06] <FaTaL_G> actually stevendale, since Im in live mount atm, I could probably hand enter some, although I havent played in grub2
[02:06] <stevendale> You could also backup files in your home directory and reinstall FaTaL_G o/
[02:06] <dman777> stevendale: but if I choose LTS, am I locked into just one kernel version? or do they have kernel updates for lts?
[02:06] <FaTaL_G> true, and beleive me, I might, but Im far more interested in solving it
[02:07] <stevendale> dman777, LTS will recieve kernel updates, yes
[02:07] <stevendale> You can also install custom kernels in LTS releases
[02:07] <dman777> stevendale: cool, thanks
[02:07] <stevendale> No problem dman777 :)
[02:07] <FaTaL_G> Im using this machine as my main router, been solid for a few months until that update/upgrade/reboot. It ***should not*** have hosed itself, and it wasnt user error, so Im on amission
[02:09] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: check it's /var/log/apt/history.log to get an idea if some packages were removed that you weren't expecting
[02:09] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: does it have a separate file-system for /boot/ ?
[02:10] <FaTaL_G> its a "router"  machine, and I'm running an i5-8th. I was/am very curious if its sptectre/meltdown related with i8
[02:10] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: if so, I wonder if it was not mounted at the time, so only one kernel get's installed, a new grub.cfg gets written, but on next boot GRUB won't see that since it's in the rootfs and GRUB is still reading the separate /boot/
[02:11] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, no, its default 16.04 recommended options for Ubuntu (I curse accepting the recommendation LOL), and it is brtfs lvm with /root and / on /sda5
[02:11] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: have you mounted the broken system in a chroot so you can fully explore/fix it?
[02:11] <xromulus> hello, i am currently having a problem with a usb wifi card. I am using ubuntu 16.04. In journctl I see this as and error but no other errors:
[02:12] <xromulus> wpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: wpa_dbus_get_object_properties: failed to get object properties: (none) none
[02:12] <xromulus>  wpa_supplicant[1655]: dbus: Failed to construct signal
[02:13] <xromulus> im not sure why this is happening. Initially i thought i was tinkering and messed something up, but this is a freshly installed updated and upgraded ubuntu
[02:13] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: btrfs? That's not a recommended install that I've ever seen, especially when using LVM
[02:13] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, I'm booted into a live 16.04 destop atm. And I have the filsystem mounted, but before mounting, it checked fine
[02:13] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: what directory path is it mounted to?
[02:14] <FaTaL_G> TJ- now tht it is mounted, /media/ubuntu/786685895865575r875r (twoof them, one for root, one for /)
[02:16] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: ok, so mounted by udisks. I'd recommend unmounting that from the GUI then doing "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /target"
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: can you check wich chipset your card is?
[02:17] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: then, assuming the rootfs is now showing up correct under /target/ you can prepare for a chroot with "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[02:17] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: and then "chroot /target /bin/bash" and you're inside it and can use commands to repair it. "exit" to leave the chroot
[02:18] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, what specifically might I be looking for (package type) in history......
[02:19] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, why chroot it unless I have something to test on it?
[02:19] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: just generally seeing if there's signs that linux-image-* packages were removed, which would explain why the older kernels are still installed. Also, if you're in the chroot you can do "apt list linux-image-* --installed" to find out what *should* be installed
[02:19] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: chroot means you're working in the broken OS
[02:19] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: lsusb says: Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter
[02:20] <xromulus> is that the correct information?
[02:20] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, meaning, if it IS broken, even though it tells me it is not, wouldnt running commands on it with it mounted hose it?
[02:20] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: no
[02:20] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, alright, I'll give it a shot. Any idea on what package to look for btw in history?
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: yeah tnx, is your system up to date to latest?
[02:21] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: if apt reports those linux-image-* packages are installed but the associated /boot/vmlinuz-* file is missing, then that tells you the file-system has been messed up, for example
[02:21] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: fresh install and full update and upgrade
[02:21] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, I have zabbix, libraw1, lshw, plymouth*
[02:22] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: usually at least 3 kernels should remain installed for example, so if there are not 3 /boot/vmlinuz_* but "apt list ..." shows 3 versions installed, then you've got a bug clue
[02:22] <FaTaL_G> ahaa, good to know. although not sure I ever saw >2
[02:22] <FaTaL_G> this was a server release
[02:23] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: where are you seeing zabbix, libraw1, etc ? not in the root of the mounted rootfs?
[02:23] <stevendale> Brb
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: linux-firmware installed?
[02:25] <tgould> hi all, i have ubuntu installed on a 2011 macbook, and plugging my external display into the mini-displayport doesn't seem to be working. wondering if anybody could lend me a hand with troubleshooting.
[02:26] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, in the apt history
[02:26] <tgould> i'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though
[02:26] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: "linux-firmware is already the newest version (1.157.17)."
[02:26] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: oh, so nothing relevant to kernel/initrd issues then
[02:26] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, I didnt see a new kernel
[02:26] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, nope
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: how about driver version at bottom on: sudo lshw -C network ?
[02:27] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, or grub for that matter
[02:27] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: so check which /boot/vmlinuz-*  files are present and compare with what 'apt list ...' shows
[02:27] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, I'll looka t a few of the previous ones, just in case. since I dont reboot everytime
[02:27] <TJ-> tgould: usually, if a new output is detected "xrandr -q" should show it even if it's not in use
[02:28] <FaTaL_G> TJ- I ahve to wait until Im ch'd for that right?
[02:28] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: for the 'apt' command yes, but not just to list its /boot/ directory
[02:29] <tgould> i'm a novice with ubuntu, the first thing i'd like to check is whether the system can see that there's something plugged into the thunderbolt / displayport. not sure where to look, though
[02:29] <tgould> yikes, sorry for the double post ^
[02:30] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: /boot/ should have a matching initrd.img for each vmlinuz to start with. That's the first check. The next is to check /etc/fstab has the correct entry for the root file-system (since that gets copied into the initrd.img). From a chroot, you can also rebuild the initrd.img with "update-initramfs -vu"
[02:30] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: driver=rt2800usb driverversion=4.13.0-38-generic
[02:32] <xromulus> brb
[02:32] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, well, there is a initrd-img 4.3.13.0-32-generic, dated the date all hell broke loose
[02:33] <FaTaL_G> there's also an old-dkms same name, diff size
[02:33] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: thank for helping.. i have to run to the store real quick ill be back in 15
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: allright mate
[02:33] <FaTaL_G> my bad, file was -36, not 32, 32 was from feb
[02:38] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, so the vmlinusz files are 0-32 and 0-36 and edited last back in feb, however the 0-36 initrd.img 0-36 was edited the day I rebooted, is this kosher or suspect?
[02:42] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: well, some packages cause the initrd to be regenerated, but it suggests when that happened the info about the rootfs that was added is incorrect, so you need to check the /etc/fstab is correct, and if not correct it, then do a "chroot /target /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -vu"
[02:43] <FaTaL_G> yikes
[02:43] <FaTaL_G> "aufs / aufs rw 0 0" & "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0"
[02:44] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: are you looking that the /etc/fstab of the *live* ISO, or inside the broken OS? (under /target/ as in /target/etc/fstab)
[02:44] <FaTaL_G> I havent edited fstab on a lvm system before, so not sure what it should look like, but that looks lame
[02:44] <TJ-> LVM is just another block device like a partition
[02:45] <FaTaL_G> Ithought it was mounted one, but I must have used /, newb
[02:45] <TJ-> There is a file-system in a Logical Volume
[02:45] <tgould> TJ-, "xrandr -q" only shows my laptop's built-in display. I also see nothing in "udevadm monitor" when I unplug and replug the device. I think the port itself may be broken -- is there a good way to confirm this?
[02:47] <dell00> Hello?
[02:47] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, of, the real fstab: "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1" and a comment for boot was on dev/sda1, and a "UUID=565789765467 /boot" (looks right) and a dev/mapper for swap
[02:47] <FaTaL_G> looks ok?
[02:47] <TJ-> tgould: on a Mac, I'm not sure. Would an external DP monitor be expected to be active if you enter the firmware setup at boot time? That's be 1 way to prove whether it works
[02:47] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: wooooaaa!
[02:48] <TJ-> FaTaL_G:  "UUID=565789765467 /boot"  says 2 things: 1) there's a separate /boot/ file-system  and 2) is UUID=565789765467 the full UUID or did you just type random characteres?
[02:49] <FaTaL_G> I typed random ;)
[02:49] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: Grrr!
[02:49] <FaTaL_G> it mathces what was mounted by the auto moount lie cd under media
[02:49] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: OK, so, the 1st thing to check is that file-system has free space remaining - a common problem is /boot/ running out of space
[02:50] <FaTaL_G> still an issue these days huh?
[02:50] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: have you configured the chroot yet ?
[02:50] <FaTaL_G> no. beed anges since I've done that. Got a link I can follow or something to google for?
[02:51] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: do it now: "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root /target"
[02:51] <FaTaL_G> I have that alread
[02:51] <FaTaL_G> thats how I told you what was in fstab
[02:51] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: did you bind-mount proc sys dev ... etc ?
[02:51] <FaTaL_G> no?
[02:52] <FaTaL_G> I've chrooted like 2 times in my life haha
[02:52] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: prepare it for chroot with  "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[02:54] <FaTaL_G> the /target/$n sould be /mnt/target/$n right?
[02:54] <TJ-> Err, no, not if you used the commands  I gave earlier
[02:55] <FaTaL_G> I had mounted it as /mnt/target-root/, just checking
[02:57] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, tells me the mount for resolv.conf is a mount to nowhere
[02:58] <TJ-> once you've done that you can enter it with "sudo chroot /mnt/target-root" ... then do "mount -a" so it automounts the entries in it's fstab, then do "df -h" to check if /boot/ has free space
[02:58] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, well, resolv.conf isnt there
[02:59] <FaTaL_G> there is resov.conf.d/ dir
[02:59] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: OK, don't worrry about that one, it's used to give the chroot DNS resolution
[02:59] <TJ-> We do that so the chroot can send logs to pastebin
[02:59] <FaTaL_G> rgr
[03:01] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, df -h gave me no worries
[03:01] <FaTaL_G> all <35%
[03:02] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: right, so some choices here. 1) regenerate the initrd.img files and then reboot to test - if that doesn't solve it you've got to do the LiveISO boot again 2) explore but I'm not too sure what we can look for since you've verified fstab
[03:02] <FaTaL_G> mapper root is 102G (SSD drive is 128 all for linux), udev is 3.8, and sda1 (boot) is 472MB  with 201MB free
[03:03] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: you could extract the current initrd.img and look at it's content to find out what the rootfs is set to
[03:03] <FaTaL_G> tarball extract to a location?
[03:04] <FaTaL_G> given that it has a 4/2 date, its a late april fools joke by ubuntu? j/k... sure, Im interested in looking and even moreso how to regenerate it
[03:05] <FaTaL_G> maybe then I can go post to some of the forums that only indicated fsck that "if fsck is clean, do this...." to verify....
[03:06] <FaTaL_G> what do you recommend I lok at while Im in the chroot env?
[03:07] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: indentify the most recent version "ls -latr /boot/vmlinuz-*"
[03:08] <FaTaL_G> it just shows me the two entries I told you about, 4.13.0-32 & 36
[03:08] <FaTaL_G> 36 date is 2/16
[03:11] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: OK, so: "mkdir -p /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/initrd" then "gunzip /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id"
[03:12] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: that should extract the files; use "ls -l" to check you see a minimal root file-system layout with bin/ conf/ lib/ and several other directories
[03:13] <FaTaL_G> btw...
[03:13] <FaTaL_G> when I tried "e" in grub, and selecte the 0.32 file instead of the 0.36 I was getting the same dump out to initeamfs
[03:14] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: I'm wondering if you managed to remove the lvm tooling somehow. That's what we need to check once you've extracted the files
[03:15] <FaTaL_G> premature end of archive from cpio, is that expected?
[03:16] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: no; that means it may not the gzip compressed. Find what kind the file is with "file /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic"
[03:16] <TJ-> s/may not the/may not be/
[03:17] <FaTaL_G> ASCII cpio archive SVR4
[03:17] <FaTaL_G> love the regex
[03:18] <TJ-> that's interesting, it's not compressed
[03:18] <FaTaL_G> ASCII cpio archive SVR4 with no CRC <--- even
[03:18] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: OK, so:  "cat /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic | cpio -id"
[03:19] <FaTaL_G> 194 blocks
[03:20] <TJ-> good, so "ls -l" you should see the directories and files
[03:21] <FaTaL_G> via ..kernel/x86/microcode/GenuineIntel.bin
[03:21] <FaTaL_G> and this is dated 4/14, go figure
[03:21] <FaTaL_G> the date of the file inside is newer tahn the "archive"
[03:22] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: oh shoot! the initrd has microcode prefix so we can't easily extract the real initrd files
[03:22] <FaTaL_G> ignore my stupid date comment hhahahaha
[03:22] <TJ-> I have a script that can unpack that, but your chroot didn't get DNS so can't easily wget it
[03:23] <FaTaL_G> we;;
[03:23] <FaTaL_G> well....
[03:23] <FaTaL_G> I can save it, and regen, then look inside after reboot
[03:23] <TJ-> don't need to.
[03:23] <TJ-> type "exit" to leave the chroot
[03:23] <FaTaL_G> lol true
[03:23] <FaTaL_G> its on the fs haha
[03:25] <TJ-> now do "sudo wget -O /mnt/target-root/initrd-extract.bash  http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/initrd-extract.bash"
[03:25] <TJ-> this fetches the script and puts it inside the chroot so you will be able to use it
[03:26] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: I'm back. so what do you think?
[03:28] <FaTaL_G> no-ip ;)
[03:28] <FaTaL_G> Im back in ch
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: its always a pain to get those ralinks to work
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: TJ- helped me once on those ralink chipset, cant recall what we did
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: you sure you updated to .4 yeah?
[03:30] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: did you wget the file first before re-entering ?
[03:30] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: what's weird is it totally worked for a while. months even. but it just randomly acts strange
[03:30] <FaTaL_G> ofc
[03:30] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: .4?
[03:30] <FaTaL_G> yea, im in/ ch. and reading the bash contents
[03:30] <FaTaL_G> $1
[03:30] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: It's way past my bed-time, I'm going to have to leave now. Hopefully someone else can help.
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: 16.04.4
[03:31] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: "cd /tmp/initrd; bash /initrd-extract.bash /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic"
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: lsb_release -a to check
[03:32] <FaTaL_G> well tyvm for the help then. This has been educational. I can always wait to proceed and pickup when I see you here next. But I'll dig carefully in the meantime
[03:32] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: then you'll have a new directory 4.13.0-36-generic/ inside of which is the extracted initrd files
[03:33] <xromulus> lotuspsychje: im using linux mint 18.3 but I was using the latest ubuntu with the same problem
[03:33] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: so "/tmp/initrd/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic" then do "find . -name '*lvm*'  " --- that should report around 11 files related to LVM. If not, lvm is likely missing and that would explain the failure.
[03:33] <stevendale> Description:	Debian GNU/Linux 9.4 (stretch)
[03:33] <stevendale> o/
[03:33] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: to rebuild the initrd.img: "update-initramfs -u"
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: we can only support you on vanilla ubuntu
[03:34] <xromulus> ok :(
[03:34] <FaTaL_G> ok, ty
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> xromulus: try different kernels too?
[03:34] <xromulus> it used to work.. i actually think an update may have caused the issue
[03:36] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: if on a reboot it drops to the busybox shell again, then do some exploring. First thing to do is see if the LVM devices have been opened by doing "ls /dev/mapper/" - the rootfs name should be there "/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root " ... if not, try "lvm vgchange -ay" and check again
[03:37] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: once that has shown up doing "Ctrl+D" to resume the init process should get the system to boot
[03:37] <FaTaL_G> 9 files
[03:38] <FaTaL_G> ok will do, gn & ty
[03:38] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: here I see 4 scripts, 2 lib, 4 etc and 1 sbin
[03:38] <FaTaL_G> 4 scripts, 2 etc, 2 lib
[03:39] <baba_> is bionic any good
[03:39] <FaTaL_G> 1 sbin
[03:40] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: that's about right, so nothing to worry about. I've got a different config
[03:40] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: so, I think regen the initrd and try a reboot
[03:40] <TJ-> "update-initramfs -u"
[03:41] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: oh! one last check ensure the rootfs is set correctly in grub. "update-grub" too
[03:42] <FaTaL_G> already rebooted
[03:42] <FaTaL_G> ahhaha
[03:42] <FaTaL_G> but will have to go back in if it doesnt work
[03:43] <FaTaL_G> same thing
[03:44] <FaTaL_G> right back to initramfs
[03:45] <TJ-> is /dev/mapper/ empty?
[03:45] <TJ-> well, there should be "control" node in there
[03:46] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: you should be seeing TARDIS--vg-root
[03:46] <TJ-> also confirm that is on the kernel command-line: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[03:46] <TJ-> it should show "root=/dev/mapper//dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root "
[03:47] <TJ-> oops, no
[03:47] <TJ-> it should show "root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root "
[03:50] <FaTaL_G> dev mapper has TARDIS--vg-swap_1 -> ../dm-0
[03:50] <FaTaL_G> and control
[03:50] <FaTaL_G> no root
[03:51] <FaTaL_G> cat /proc/cmdline is two diamonds
[03:53] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: whuh?
[03:54] <TJ-> no wonder!
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> yea really
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> cat proc/cmdline shows two diamonds
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> high ascii
[03:54] <TJ-> so,  that "update-grub"  would have fixed it, or should have
[03:55] <TJ-> let me check in the /init script if you can do a temporary workaround to make it boot now
[03:55] <redoasis> praise the tech gods . data has been recovered
[03:55] <FaTaL_G> grats redoasis?
[03:55] <redoasis> yessss
[03:56] <FaTaL_G> would update grun need valid dns? I can set it up the hard way ;)
[03:56] <iehusha591> Anybody Have Anything on Editing in An Hotkey For U+2E41) to Make Viz [Cntrl] , Enter Reversed (⹁)
[03:57] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: this may work: "/init root=/dev/mapper/TARDIS--vg-root"
[03:57] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: update-grub doesn't need network, it reads the kernels in /boot/ and the /etc/fstab entry, and builds /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:58] <FaTaL_G> one thing tho
[03:58] <FaTaL_G> when I told you what was in /dev/mapper, it was swap, the root wasnt there
[03:59] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: oh, didn't spot that!
[03:59] <TJ-> I read 1 of my own lines by mistake
[03:59] <USERNAME00> How can I get info on what kind of trackpad i'm using?
[03:59] <FaTaL_G> but we know root is there/good, lol, we mounted it live
[03:59] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: try "lvm vgchange -ay"
[04:00] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: then check in /dev/mapper/ again
[04:00] <FaTaL_G> socket connect failed: no such file or dir failed to connect to lvmetad
[04:01] <FaTaL_G> falling back to internal scanning
[04:01] <TJ-> That's expecting when in the initrd
[04:01] <TJ-> lvmmeta daemon only starts when the real init and root-fs are active
[04:01] <FaTaL_G> well... now its hung or something
[04:02] <TJ-> that's informative ... it must be trying and failing to activate root
[04:03] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: if/when it it returns to the shell, try running it with debug enabled: "lvm vgchange -d -ay"
[04:03] <TJ-> "-ay" means Activate Yes
[04:04] <FaTaL_G> gparted had it marked active in live disk
[04:04] <FaTaL_G> I didnt change anything there at all. Just looked :)
[04:05] <FaTaL_G> it seems hung. I mean, its an i5 machine and a ssd, so this isnt rocket science to scan for a partition ahhaha
[04:05] <FaTaL_G> I dont want to keep you up, I appreciate all that you've done this far. I'll continue to dig and learn
[04:08] <TJ-> If vgchange has hung that's a major problem, and points to something more serious, especailly as you regenerated the initrd.img
[04:08] <TJ-> we can't blame corruption inside the initrd.img
[04:09] <TJ-> the corrupted /proc/cmdline is also a big problem.
[04:09] <TJ-> combined, I wonder if something is failing in the PC, or not performing correctly. Overheating possibly. Has it's fans and air vents been cleaned and checked recently?
[04:10] <FaTaL_G> its brand new... relatively speaking
[04:11] <FaTaL_G> its an 8th gen cpu
[04:11] <FaTaL_G> thus, new hardware all around, purchased in Jan
[04:11] <FaTaL_G> very clean machine, and while running in live mode, no issues in performance
[04:12] <TJ-> the corrupted /proc/cmdline makes me think of RAM module problems; reboot it and do a memtest on it (from GRUB menu)
[04:12] <TJ-> I don't think this is a 'simple' software/file installation issue, it feels like something more
[04:13] <FaTaL_G> hmmmmm
[04:13] <TJ-> and with that I'm off to bed, it's gone 5aM!
[04:13] <FaTaL_G> I uninstalled gnome a week before I rebooted....
[04:14] <FaTaL_G> not sure if I rebooted then, but ok. Thank you
[04:47] <iehusha591> Anybody Have Anything on Editing in An Hotkey For U+2E41) to Make Viz [Cntrl] , Enter Reversed (⹁)
[05:05] <Keon_MY> quit
[05:15] <FaTaL_G> TJ- was awesome & thanks stevendale for also offering to help. After rebuilding grub, its working
[05:16] <stevendale> Hey FaTaL_G :)
[05:17] <matty> O.o what did you buikd?
[05:17] <matty> build*
[05:17] <FaTaL_G> repaired'
[05:17] <stevendale> It wasn't my area of expertise, but I tried to help anyway FaTaL_G, you're welcome, thanks for taking over what I couldn't handle TJ-
[05:18] <FaTaL_G> he signed off
[05:18] <FaTaL_G> Im going to thank him tom assuming he'll be back
[05:18] <FaTaL_G> matty: a homebrew router, running 16.04 LTS
[05:18] <FaTaL_G> server
[05:19] <matty> FaTaL_G, thats pretty rad. You use a micro box or tower/server shell?
[05:19] <matty> My girl was just recently talking about taking on such a project
[05:20] <FaTaL_G> I went all out. Considered an alibaba type solution, but after reading mixed reviews in general, decided I'd go with something that was a workhorse for my fios
[05:20] <matty> We have a dual core (2.ghz) w/ 4GB of ram just sitting around and about 4 routers throughout the house lol
[05:20] <matty> fios...*drools*
[05:21] <FaTaL_G> i5-8th, 16g mem, and an ssd drive
[05:21] <matty> a bit overkill for a router no?
[05:21] <matty> lol
[05:21] <FaTaL_G> got a nice asrock mobo
[05:21] <FaTaL_G> yep!\
[05:21] <FaTaL_G> just a bit
[05:21] <matty> thats what up, how many nic cards did you use in it?
[05:21] <FaTaL_G> however
[05:22] <FaTaL_G> Im still a bit annoyed, but its more about me learning
[05:22] <FaTaL_G> the hardware I have is authentic, but getting 1gb was not happening
[05:22] <FaTaL_G> and with 1 load on my betgear it would
[05:22] <FaTaL_G> but the netgears are .... well, .... incinsistent
[05:22] <matty> hell yeah they are
[05:22] <FaTaL_G> -i +o
[05:23] <FaTaL_G> my R7000 is better than my R8500
[05:23] <FaTaL_G> I could get 934Mbps up and down SOMETIMES
[05:23] <matty> We are kind of in the same situation. Lots of house to cover and lots of devices and of the shelf hardware wont cut it but some of the higher end routers are too pricy for the little bit of work they do
[05:23] <matty> Rather build one out myself
[05:24] <FaTaL_G> but with the ubuntu router I get 780's.... So I still need to optimize, tune, and find out where it is choking
[05:24] <FaTaL_G> agreed
[05:24] <FaTaL_G> with the[rice of the R9000
[05:24] <FaTaL_G> and the fact that it still sucks....
[05:24] <AJ2> Can anyone reccomend a good email client?
[05:24] <matty> Thats pretty cool man, good for you. My girl use to build clusters (since moved on) for gov entities and companies'
[05:25] <matty> So shes looking for a project we can both hop on. Router seemd to fit the bil
[05:25] <matty> About how many hours did you put in it from start to "thi'll do for now"
[05:26] <FaTaL_G> went with a deny iptables, and put on a number of ips/ids etc, and kept them off to see max throughput
[05:26] <FaTaL_G> so was sad it wasnt the 934Mbps at all, when I expected it to be 100%
[05:27] <FaTaL_G> hard to give an honest answer
[05:27] <matty> Sounds like youre at the point where you need to doublecheck your hardware
[05:27] <FaTaL_G> I read a ton on web forums of others trials and tribulations
[05:27] <FaTaL_G> and I was insistent on including wireless built in
[05:27] <matty> hell yeah, we wont do it without wireless
[05:27] <matty> good call on that
[05:27] <FaTaL_G> I went ASUS PCI-88U
[05:28] <FaTaL_G> most advice was and still is to use a router for that
[05:28] <FaTaL_G> and just dedicate a port on the pc for the wired link to the rest
[05:29] <FaTaL_G> the linux support/availability for quality wireless with hotspot capability is, light
[05:29] <FaTaL_G> hell, station like cards are hard to find
[05:29] <matty> Light...thats being nice
[05:29] <matty> Always has been and always will be
[05:30] <FaTaL_G> https://www.asus.com/us/Networking/PCE-AC88/
[05:30] <FaTaL_G> Im happy with that, but getting it running right on ubuntu was no walk in the aprk
[05:30] <matty> oh...thats special
[05:30] <matty> no 5GHZ?
[05:30] <FaTaL_G> yes it is
[05:31] <FaTaL_G> its 4x4, mumimo
[05:31] <FaTaL_G> Dual-band 4x4 AC3100 Wifi with speeds up to 2100Mbps (5GHz band) and 1000Mbps (2.4GHz band)
[05:31] <matty> Got ya, i read that wrong
[05:31] <matty> You plan on doing any writeups about it?
[05:31] <matty> Love to see the struggle that you went through
[05:32] <FaTaL_G> probably... still on the adventure. Taken notes, bookmarked pages, done a few assembly videos
[05:32] <matty> Only for future reference. I may have spoke too soon to my girl about jumping on that. Im sure she can bang it out but shed be kind enough to struggle with me lol.
[05:32] <matty> So any input I can harvest prior to it would be great!
[05:32] <FaTaL_G> like I said, I went all out, I put it in a case, a real one, after hours of scouring for something sleek... decided scew it
[05:34] <FaTaL_G> on the simple side of things, just lock down iptables, and setup bind/dns/hostapd
[05:35] <FaTaL_G> arstechnica has a good writeup to get you barebones there
[05:35] <FaTaL_G> but it needed more for iptables
[05:58] <wiggins> I am compiling & installing from source for the first time. I usually have stuck with .deb files to install, but I'm learning. I want to install GIMP 2.10.0 parallel to my 2.8.22 version. The README says I have to "choose a separate prefix which is not in your default library search
[05:58] <wiggins> path.' I sort of understand what this means, but I do not know how to do such. Does anyone have the patience this late to guide me thru this process so I don't screw up my 2.8.x versions, but can use some of the features in the new 2.10.0 version?
[05:59] <FaTaL_G> back, with the router in play
[06:00] <FaTaL_G> I just flashed the r8500 (stock, always been stock) and its not booting haha
[06:00] <akik> wiggins: it means that you use --prefix=path for configure
[06:01] <wiggins> akik, does this mean I could use something like "./install --prefix=/usr/lib2" that I make up?
[06:02] <akik> wiggins: make install uses the path you set earlier with configure
[06:02] <wiggins> akik There is no configure in the GIMP tarball
[06:03] <akik> wiggins: does it have autogen.sh?
[06:03] <wiggins> oh duh there IS a configure....
[06:03] <wiggins> ./config
[06:05] <wiggins> akik:   "configure: error: Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.40.1 or later."  After I install intltool 0.40.1 or later, do I set the path with ./configure --path=user/new_created_dir?
[06:06] <akik> wiggins: there are variables you can use to find the libs or it's an option for configure
[06:11] <wiggins> akik: Here is a listing of everything in the extracted directory. I am not sure what I need to do to alter the default config so I dont fubar my 2.8.x version.  https://hastebin.com/oruluyenah.diff
[06:13] <akik> wiggins: just don't set the --prefix=/usr or anything related to the system dirs
[06:13] <mojtaba> Hello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost
[06:13] <akik> wiggins: /opt or /usr/local are used usually
[06:13] <mojtaba> But it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?
[06:14] <akik> wiggins: you should read a guide on compiling
[06:14] <wiggins> https://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/
[06:14] <wiggins> it leaves me with questions.
[06:16] <wiggins> akik, is this path going to be a line in the config file that I alter then save the file?
[06:16] <akik> wiggins: no, it's an option for configure
[06:18] <quidnunc> How do I change the display manager
[06:18] <quidnunc> ?
[06:19] <wiggins> akik: so I could use ./configure --path="/home/wiggins/expiremental"  (assuming those dirs existed) and it would be ok?
[06:20] <akik> wiggins: yes
[06:20] <akik> wiggins: but the option is --prefix
[06:20] <wiggins> instead of path.
[06:21] <akik> wiggins: that guide didn't mention it? read another guide
[06:21] <wiggins> it was very basic.
[06:22] <wiggins> akik when the final release is finally out, I will be able to make uninstall and everything will work as one would expect?
[06:23] <akik> wiggins: yes. if you set the --prefix to a path in /opt or /usr/local or /home
[06:24] <wiggins> akik, can i use a subdirectory in home and your last statement still be true?
[06:24] <wiggins> akik, i.e., /home/wiggins/something/ ?
[06:24] <akik> wiggins: yes
[06:33] <wiggins> akik If I get an error at the "./config --prefix=/home/wiggins/whatever" stage, can I just remove the whole extracted package, and no harm, no foul? Or am I going to leave a bunch of garbage polluting up my drive?
[06:36] <ducasse> wiggins: nothing will be copied to other locations in your fs until you do 'make install'
[06:38] <wiggins> ducasse and akik: This has proven something I don't want to get into at 1:30 AM on a box I use every day. I have another Ubuntu box I can play on that I could hook up tomorrow, but I've come to rely on this machine too much to mess stuff up.
[06:39] <wiggins> ducasse and akik: Originally the whole "Ubuntu" thing was an expirement to rid myself of Windows, but only as a curiosity. I haven't touched Windows now in 2 years.
[06:40] <wiggins> ducasse: What began as a curiosity/tinkering project blossomed into something I use and depend on every day. I'm anxious to learn more.
[06:40] <ducasse> wiggins: one thing you can consider is to use containers for this sort of thing. build inside a container, if you mess something up you can just destroy it and start a new one
[06:42] <ducasse> (or virtual machines, but they demand more resources)
[06:42] <wiggins> ducasse: I think akik was right, I need to read more about installing from source rather than depend on that short jump-start guide at https://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/
[06:45] <wiggins> I appreciate your help tonight, akik and ducasse. I'm getting off of Freenode now. I'm sure I'll be back!!
[06:45] <akik> wiggins: it's configure, not config
[06:45] <ducasse> wiggins: that's a good attitude - read up and good luck :)
[06:45] <wiggins> "By doing, learn."
[07:01] <firefox> what does -u do
[07:02] <slidinghorn> firefox: for what command?  what are you trying to do?
[07:02] <firefox> sudo -u postgres psql
[07:03] <hggdh> firefox: runs the command as the user following -u. See 'man sudo' for details
[07:07] <firefox> i see
[07:07] <firefox> do you any of you know what postgres psql actually does? is it just like a sql CLI that allows you to edit your db?
[07:09] <ducasse> firefox: 'postgres' is the user, 'psql' is the command. see 'man psql' for information on what it is and how it works
[07:10] <firefox> k thanks
[07:18] <ozberk> hi people is there any tweaking tool for ubuntu 17? I really don't like the interface
[07:19] <ducasse> ozberk: you can choose another one, there are several
[07:23] <ozberk> ducasse: I don't want to change my DE. Just want to tweak it
[07:24] <ducasse> ozberk: there is gnome-tweak-tool, i've never used it
[07:30] <Brek> Using Arch, I can install and update proprietary software using AUR Helper via a command only. Currently using ubuntu, I install proprietary software from their website and update them manually. Is there an easy way to do so in ubuntu just like arch?
[07:31] <ducasse> Brek: there might be a repository available, like a ppa
[07:31] <ducasse> !ppa
[07:31] <ducasse> many projects provide their own repos
[07:32] <Brek> but no
[07:32] <Brek> I dont like PPA. its insecure
[07:32] <Brek> :(
[07:32] <ozberk> I^ve got a noobster question how can I install a tar.gz theme
[07:33] <explodes> Hello! Working with c++17, and the <optional> include does not work. Looks like it is still under experimental on my machine. What gives?!
[07:34] <ducasse> Brek: see if the project has a repo, then
[07:34] <Brek> thats sad
[07:34] <Brek> its  nowhere near as easy as AUR
[07:34] <Brek> :(
[07:35] <Brek> to install a software I have to manually look for it
[07:35] <Brek> and add its repo
[07:35] <Brek> too much of work for a single package
[07:35] <ducasse> life is hard
[07:36] <ozberk> Brek, Sad fact but I agree. We need more applications packaged with snap
[07:36] <Brek> I am missing arch linux's AUR now
[07:36] <Brek> just one command away to install any software you want and update
[07:39] <ozberk> Brek, Yet there is a good side about apt. Somewhere I've red apt repository system is a little bit safer then AUR. Ceartainly some applications in AUR may break your system
[07:39] <Brek> ozberk: by snap you mean ubuntu repo right?
[07:40] <ozberk> Brek, Nope. Snap is a new packaging system works on nearly any distro as far as I know. Ubuntu software center supports it now. It is much easier to install snap packages
[07:41] <Brek> well
[07:41] <ducasse> Brek: snaps are separate from the apt repos, see 'man snap'
[07:41] <Brek> ok. but it takes from repo
[07:41] <Brek> I see
[07:41] <Brek> will check out snap
[07:41] <Brek> thanks ducasse and ozberk
[07:41] <ozberk> Brek, And there is another packaging system rising called Flatpak which is a web based intallation system
[07:41] <Brek> still I doubt it has as many packages as AUR
[07:41] <Brek> I see
[07:42] <ozberk> Brek, Arch is a rolling release. Arch users always get newest software out there with newest bugs and security leaks to find
[07:43] <Brek> yea I know
[07:43] <ozberk> Brek, I used Arch, Manjaro and Antegros. Manjaro was my bae
[07:43] <Brek> ozberk: now what do youuse currently
[07:43] <ozberk> Brek, Ubuntu since nothing else supports my GTX950M
[07:43] <Brek> missing arch?
[07:44] <ozberk> Brek, Depends. Back in those days I was thinking it is good to travel between distros. So much to learn and use. Today I'm thinking it is good to stay whatever brings me less trouble
[07:45] <Brek> haha true
[07:45] <Brek> samehere
[07:45] <Brek> I want to get  work done
[07:45] <Brek> rather thantinkering withmy OS
[07:46] <ozberk> Brek, We are not software developers or coders for me I'm a writer and a new graduated student
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Brek, then install and use LTS releases
[07:47] <Brek> but I miss AUR
[07:47] <Brek> :(
[07:47] <ozberk> he missed too much and left :(
[07:48] <ozberk> hey is there any ubottu commands here to give a song to someone.
[07:49] <ducasse> no, why would there be?
[07:52] <ozberk> ducasse, I wanted to offer a song to Brek "Sad But True - Metallica" for a joke
[07:53] <cfhowlett> ozberk, we don't give songs.  we do give !cookie    however
[07:54] <mooncakehexchat> hi all am trying to download list (ubuntu + hexchat) download keeps failing can anyone help please-dont know where to start
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !cookie | ozberk
[07:54] <mooncakehexchat> from within hexchat
[07:55] <cfhowlett> mooncakehexchat, wait, what? what are you downloading via hexchat?
[07:56] <ozberk> mooncakehexchat, Shocked by now did you hacked someone or are you just trolling us
[07:58] <mooncakehexchat> a list of books txt
[07:58] <XXCoder> mooncakehexchat: channels list?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !alis | XXCoder sounds like you need to learn alis.  try it.
[07:59] <XXCoder> lol ok
[07:59] <XXCoder> wasnt asking for help myself :P
[07:59] <mooncakehexchat> no a list of books "1945 Orwell" sent to a bot and a file (txt) file comes back to me to download i
[07:59] <cfhowlett> that makes this even more suspect
[07:59] <ducasse> mooncakehexchat: it's against channel rules to help you download pirated material
[07:59] <cfhowlett> mooncakehexchat, not an ubuntu irc command.  and ^^^
[07:59] <XXCoder> I know of such, and its illegal
[08:00] <eury_> I'm watching a movie and this blank screen keep occurring as if i were locked the pc.
[08:00] <mooncakehexchat> its out of cpyright
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !piracy | is very much frowned upon here and that is not an ubuntu irc command in any case
[08:01] <eury_> I'm watching a movie and this blank screen keep occurring as if i were locked the pc.
[08:01] <mooncakehexchat> where bouts shalls i take it
[08:01] <XXCoder> eury_: moving mouse sometimes?
[08:01] <cfhowlett> mooncakehexchat, use alis and search
[08:02] <ozberk> fow some reason I love wine
 moving mouse? mouse is idle.
[08:02] <mooncakehexchat> lols chill out
[08:05] <ducasse> eury_: you can try a program called 'caffeine'
[08:35] <chandyshot> hello
[08:35] <cfhowlett> greetings.  ask the ubuntu question
[08:43] <ozberk> !cookie| cfhowlett
[08:43] <ozberk> wow that worked
[08:43] <cfhowlett> but of course ...
[08:43] <cfhowlett> we used to have one for beer, but sadly it was decommissioned
[08:45] <ozberk> :(
[08:47] <ozberk> we should one for the songs (just by names not files ofc)
[08:47] <ozberk> we should use one*
[09:33] <serizawa> hi
[09:41] <mooncakehexchat> yo
[09:42] <mooncakehexchat> %c
[10:21] <sdcc> how do i see if a port is open in ubuntu
[10:39] <akik> sdx23: you can use "nc -v host port"
[10:41] <gint> Hi..
[10:43] <CoolerZ> i am having some trouble
[10:43] <CoolerZ> glib.h is missing
[10:43] <CoolerZ> several askubuntu threads suggesting that i install libgtk2.0.0-dev version
[10:43] <CoolerZ> but that doesn't show up when i do apt list
[10:46] <qiang> ？。。
[10:46] <akik> CoolerZ: libgtk2.0-dev
[10:46] <cfhowlett> !cn | qiang
[10:46] <CoolerZ> akik, it doesn't show in apt list
[10:47] <akik> CoolerZ: you got the name wrong
[10:47] <CoolerZ> akik, what?
[10:47] <akik> CoolerZ: it's libgtk2.0-dev
[10:48] <CoolerZ> ok now its showing up
[10:48] <CoolerZ> after i did a sudo apt-get update
[10:48] <akik> CoolerZ: you wrote libgtk2.0.0-dev, the name is libgtk2.0-dev
[10:49] <CoolerZ> akik, no i tried both
[10:49] <akik> good
[10:51] <goatia> Hi all, want to know if it is possible to install UbuntuStudio along side Ubuntu 17.10 and Linux Mint?
[10:54] <cfhowlett> yes
[10:54] <cfhowlett> but there are easier ways
[10:55] <goatia> how is that, please tell?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> e.g. I have a Mac Air.  I only use MacOS to boot up virtualbox where my ubuntustudio lives.  98% of the time, I go to US directly.  Once or twice a year, I may boot win7 in an alternate VBox on MacOS
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Unless you are actually using multiple OS's regularly, it's saner to streamline.  How much *nix do you need?
[10:58] <mojtaba> Hello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost But it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?
[10:58] <mojtaba> I have tried ssh -R 2210:localhost:22 root@IP, and then on the remote machine ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost connects without any problem.
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: perhaps a question for #openssh ?
[11:00] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks
[11:02] <goatia> My situation is I use UbuntuStio constantly, I like the mint for business purposes and ubuntu 17.10 for mere entertainment. I have a 2TB drive where I have partitioned it in half and formatted 1TB for file storage (NTFS), the other is allocated for the OS. Problem is when installing Studio it wants to overight Ubunto 17.10, and I dont want that
[11:02] <cfhowlett> wait you already have ubuntu, goatia?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> goatia: 3 Os for 1 life bit overkill no?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> then you do NOT want to install ubuntu studio.  just add the ubuntustudio metapackages to ubuntu.  at bootup, choose your xfce4/xubuntu session for the ubuntustdio experience or the unity session for ubuntu.  OR ...
[11:04] <cfhowlett> you could just install the parts of ubuntustudio that you'll actually use, i.e. graphics, audio production etc.
[11:04] <goatia> I figured, but once installed, how do I change the desktop enviroment?
[11:05] <tomreyn> logout, choose DE, login
[11:05] <cfhowlett> logout.  click the gear icon to select a session, login
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> goatia: or make your life easy and use 1 ubuntu LTS and install studio packages like cfhowlett suggested on it, loose mint
[11:06] <cfhowlett> exactomundo!
[11:06] <cfhowlett> pretty sure you can use ubuntu for work ... checks ... yep. office suites confirmed!
[11:07] <goatia> Thanks man, let me try that, I did not think of the sessions, too much thinking made my brain cloudy :)
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: bionic new wallpapers are in :p
[11:10] <cfhowlett> nice, but I've evolved beyond the christmas morning syndrome, so I can wait for the .1 release.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: sure mate, just letting you know as you like art preview here: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/04/13/ubuntu-desktop-weekly-update-13-april-2018
[11:12] <cfhowlett> nice design for sure.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> and it's a snap!?  I might just test it
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: the new community theme is yeah
[11:28] <YujinS> Attempting to install ubuntu on SurfacePro4, running into a black screen after the grub menu. What can I do?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | YujinS leaps to mind
[11:31] <YujinS> I have tried doing that, but nomodeset does not work. Same result--blackscreen
[11:31] <cfhowlett> surfacepro and pad installations in general are finicky.
[11:32] <EriC^^> YujinS: did you remove 'quiet splash' ?
[11:32] <YujinS> yeah, i deleted quiet slash and replaced with nomodeset
[11:33] <YujinS> I've been going through countless forums and I can't seem to find anything useful
[11:34] <akik> YujinS: try adding vga=0 if that helps
[11:34] <YujinS> after nomodeset?
[11:34] <akik> YujinS: yes
[11:35] <YujinS> alright, I will try that and see what happens. thanks for the help
[11:35] <f00> hi..i have blurred fonts in the youtube search bar ... how to avoid that?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> f00: graphics drivers installed properly?
[11:44] <f00> yes
[11:44] <cfhowlett> why would only the YT fonts blur?
[11:44] <f00> yes only the TY fonts
[11:45] <f00> system fonts are fine
[11:46] <nk> hi
[11:47] <f00> dmesg |grep failed has no failed message from nvidia
[11:56] <YujinS> I'm back, vga=0 has no effect it seems.
[11:57] <Brawcks> Hi. I have a prblm. Actually have 2 VPS (OVH), and can connect myself from my computer using SSH to both. Perhaps, i cant connect using SSH from one to the second ("No route to host"). Why ? I'm using the same command. They are both ubuntu 16.04 VPS
[12:01] <Exagone313> Brawcks: are you using IP addresses?
[12:02] <tomreyn> Brawcks: i think Exagone313 is asking whether you specify the target to dconnect to by IP addresses, nto hostnames.
[12:02] <tomreyn> *not
[12:03] <Exagone313> or, check that you can access internet from the vps
[12:06] <YujinS>  Attempting to install ubuntu on SurfacePro4, running into a black screen after the grub menu. What can I do? I have tried nomodeset and vga=0.
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> YujinS: wich ubuntu version?
[12:08] <YujinS> 16.04.4 LTS
[12:09] <YujinS> 16.04.4 LTS amd64, on an 8gb Sandisk pendrive.
[12:10] <Brawcks> Yes Ip adresses
[12:10] <Brawcks> I'm not using host names for theses ones
[12:11] <tomreyn> Brawcks: at this point, you'll need to discuss both VPS' network configurations and show traceroutes in both directions to continue debugging it.
[12:14] <ChunkzZ> Hi, when is 18.04 being released? I know it's April but not sure on the exact date...
[12:14] <ChunkzZ> nvm, 26th. :)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> ChunkzZ: you can install daily too if you like #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <ChunkzZ> lotuspsychje: I'd rather not but thanks! :P
[12:17] <Brawcks> tomreyn: Thanks For help, where could i get traceroutes ? I think i dont get what u mean by network configuration ? I actually did almost nothing on it, just got the IDs from OVH and connected on it. I also made a simple firewall to allow only some ports and blocked passwd login from ssh.
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !final | ChunkzZ
[12:17] <ChunkzZ> yeah I know lotuspsychje
[12:17] <ChunkzZ> ..
[12:18] <akik> YujinS: this is a long shot but install ubuntu on the stick on another computer, then update its kernel to new mainline kernel, then try boot the surface with it
[12:19] <tomreyn> Brawcks: traceroute is a command you can run on the terminal. you ssh into each of the VPS, then run the traceroute command, providing the ip address of the other VPS as an argument. this command will list the network hops it takes while trying to reach theother VPS.
[12:19] <YujinS> I don't understand, can this be put in simpler terms?
[12:19] <YujinS> What do you mean by update the kernal
[12:20] <tomreyn> Brawcks: by "network configurations", i mean the output produced by: ip a && ip l && ip r
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> YujinS: i think they install modified kernels on those surfaces
[12:20] <akik> YujinS: these are newer kernels that can easily be installed on ubuntu to test if they bring fixes
[12:20] <tomreyn> Brawcks: before you post all those details, be sure it works without the firewall, though
[12:20] <Exagone313> Brawcks: send us the result of: iptables -S
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> YujinS: did you take care of secureboot and fastboot settings?
[12:21] <Brawcks> Ok, i'll do this and come back just after, thanks
[12:21] <tomreyn> !paste | Brawcks
[12:21] <geodb27__> People : hi !
[12:21] <YujinS> Yeah I did take care of those settings
[12:21] <geodb27__> Is that a known fact that one can't install google-chrome-stable ?
[12:21] <Brawcks> Ok :)
[12:22] <akik> geodb27__: no, it's what they call an alternate fact
[12:23] <akik> !details | geodb27__
[12:25] <geodb27__> akik: I've tried to follow the instructions given here : https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome. The 3 first lines goes without any problem, but the "apt-get install google-chrome-stable" complains that there is no such package available. Even though apt search google-chrome-stable displays it.
[12:26] <akik> geodb27__: you could try downloading the chrome deb from https://www.google.com/chrome/ and install it. it adds the ppa automatically
[12:26] <geodb27__> To me (but I can be mistaken), google has changed the place or the way to distribute their software. Indeed, heading a browser to https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb results in a 404 not found.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> YujinS: we had some users having their surfaces 3 & 4 installed like charm before
[12:28] <geodb27__> Oh, thanks akik. This way seems to be working. Why the hell did they drop the ppa ? Well... If I can at least install it, that's fine.
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> geodb27__: try the ubuntu version; chromium-browser ?
[12:28] <Brawcks> Here i'm back, you can see the pastebin here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/th89myGxfH/
[12:29] <nisankhindia> three things to do for Google chrome stableinstallation ..1. add key 2 set repository. 3 install using APT
[12:29] <akik> geodb27__: you might be right. i removed google-chrome-stable and can't install it again
[12:29] <nisankhindia> add key :: wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -
[12:30] <nisankhindia> add repo :: echo 'deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
[12:30] <geodb27__> nisankhindia: these instructions are the one given on the link I've posted at first and don't work anymore.
[12:30] <akik> geodb27__: oh wow, apt-get remove removed also the ppa config
[12:30] <nisankhindia> simple to do any kind of app installation using available supported repo
[12:31] <nisankhindia> get the repo added
[12:31] <Brawcks> tomreyn: One of the traceroute seems to be really short, instead of the second.Everything is here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/th89myGxfH/
[12:31] <akik> geodb27__: Get:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 google-chrome-stable amd64 65.0.3325.181-1 [52.1 MB]
[12:31] <Exagone313> Brawcks: you're not running an open recursive DNS server do you?
[12:31] <nisankhindia> or download the deb file from google
[12:31] <geodb27__> lotuspsychje: You couldn't know that, but chromium is installed and works fine. However, for some site, I must have the non-free version of it.
[12:33] <nisankhindia> direct link for google chrome https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[12:33] <katnip> chrome works great on mine, even tho it's the evil empire
[12:33] <geodb27__> akik: https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome -> 404
[12:34] <akik> geodb27__: i'm downloading it from google currently
[12:34] <Brawcks> Exagone313: Actually dont have any host name, only IP adresses, i guess i dont have this ? I think i dont have enough technicity to know that. It was entirely first installed by OVH
[12:34] <akik> geodb27__: here's the apt config for it: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[12:34] <geodb27__> https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/google_chrome downloads a .deb, however, the install fails with "invalid architecture amd64" Oo That's too much weirndess to me for a sunday.
[12:35] <nisankhindia> goto google download page
[12:35] <katnip> deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[12:35] <nisankhindia> and select your arch and type
[12:35] <nisankhindia> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html
[12:36] <geodb27__> that's what I did nisankhindia, but, forgive me to repeat my words : the downloaded deb can't be installed, with the error "invalid architecture amd64"
[12:37] <ioria> geodb27__,   can you paste  uname -a   output ?
[12:37] <nisankhindia> details of your system
[12:37] <nisankhindia> ???
[12:39] <nisankhindia> first read this geodb27__
[12:39] <nisankhindia> https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[12:39] <geodb27__> Linux L540-David 4.13.0-38-generic #43~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 14 17:46:42 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:39] <ioria> geodb27__,   you are 32 bit
[12:39] <nisankhindia> ok i686 :)
[12:39] <nisankhindia> wait
[12:40] <ioria> geodb27__,   you can't install chrome
[12:40] <akik> geodb27__: there's the solution. google stopped making the 32-bit version
[12:40] <mojtaba> Hello, I have created the .ssh/config file: http://paste.debian.net/1020372/ and I am trying to establish reverse ssh using autossh -M 0 -f -T -N ovh; At the remote machine I type ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost But it says connection refused. Do you know what should I do?
[12:40] <mojtaba> I have tried ssh -R 2210:localhost:22 root@IP, and then on the remote machine ssh -p 2210 osmc@localhost connects without any problem.
[12:40] <geodb27__> OMG, what did I do ? -_-
[12:40] <ioria> geodb27__,   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:40] <nisankhindia> wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_i686.deb
[12:40] <nisankhindia> here this is for you
[12:40] <ioria> nope
[12:40] <geodb27__> Well, How did I come to install this peculiar version of kubuntu on my laptop (a lenovo L540, so 64 bits indeed)...
[12:41] <geodb27__> Well, I'll have to go for a full re-install.
[12:41] <ioria> geodb27__,   cat /proc/cpuinfo   will tells you about your cpu
[12:41] <nisankhindia> remove any previous google key
[12:41] <nisankhindia> add this key :: wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -
[12:42] <nisankhindia> than add repo for your arch of the system :: sudo sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=i686] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list'
[12:42] <akik> nisankhindia: google ended the 32-bit chrome versin
[12:42] <nullbyte_> The following information may help to resolve the situation: cuda : Depends: cuda-9-1 (>= 9.1.85) but it is not going to be installed, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:42] <geodb27__> ioria: thanks a lot for leading me to the right solution. I guess that there is no way to update a kubuntu install from 32 to 64 bit without pain...
[12:42] <nullbyte_> how to fix it,everything looks fine in my system
[12:42] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:43] <ioria> geodb27__,   you simply can't
[12:43] <nisankhindia> i said i686
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> nullbyte_: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[12:44] <akik> nicoulaj: i386/i486/i586/i686 all 32-bit
[12:44] <nullbyte_> lotuspsychje, no
[12:44] <nullbyte_> just install it with dpkg
[12:44] <geodb27__> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4000M CPU @ 2.40GHz here is the proc my laptop... Heading to find the right install DVD. The fact is that I've installed 3 machines, 3 laptops as 64 bit systems a few monthes ago. But I took the wrong DVD this morning when I installed this last one.
[12:44] <nullbyte_> it's a .deb package
[12:44] <nullbyte_> it add some repos for cuda in apt source file lists
[12:44] <nullbyte_> and thats it
[12:44] <nullbyte_> after apt-get update i need to run apt-get install cuda
[12:44] <nullbyte_> for cuda
[12:45] <nullbyte_> from cuda-package.deb
[12:45] <tomreyn> Brawcks: sorry, am afk, be back in ~20min
[12:45] <nullbyte_> but i got this broken packages, dependencies
[12:45] <nullbyte_> how ti fix it
[12:45] <nullbyte_> to
[12:46] <Brawcks> tomreyn: All good :)
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> nullbyte_: broken dependecys happen when you add external ppas
[12:47] <nullbyte_> yes
[12:50] <nisankhindia> i have an issue with auth+pam
[12:50] <ozberk> I re managed my whole room and figured out thats why I love linux
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: this channel is for ubuntu support mate
[12:51] <nisankhindia> working fine with basic auth but auth+pam not working , its not accepting the defined user and pass
[12:52] <oaulakh> can anyone help after all of sudden shutdown or power off my ubuntu running slow keyword freezing while typing mouse cusser hangs alot. any l?
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: ubuntu version? kernel version?
[12:53] <nisankhindia> OS user credentials are not working with auth+pam in ubuntu http service (ubuntu + apache)
[12:54] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, ubuntu 17.10 - kernel 4.13.0-38-generic
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: on xorg or wayland? graphics card chipset and driver?
[12:56] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, xorg graphicCrad-nvidia410m
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: on nvidia driver or nouveau?
[12:56] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, how to check that?
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: sudo lshw -C video , dont paste here, just need driver= at bottom
[12:58] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, driver=nouveau
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: ok tnx for the details, have you tryed switching drivers yet? you can check whats available on your system with: ubuntu-drivers list
[12:58] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, means it was working fine and awesome before but after sudden power off its not working as previous
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: did that happen after an update
[12:59] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, no it was awesome before but after power cut it all happening like wifi not working too
[13:00] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, i think linux kernel not loading proper modules in as it should by default, how to reset that
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: ok you can do a few tests: try switching drivers, try booting previous kernel, tail -f /var/log/syslog for grabbing usefull errors
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> oaulakh: try loggin into guest account too, to test if its user related
[13:01] <oaulakh> yup wait
[13:04] <oaulakh> lotuspsychje, no problem didnt solved
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> Morning.
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> Some questions here.
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> I just tossed in an ES1978 Maestro 2E, and am trying to get its gameport to work.
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> So far, nothing.
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> No detected controller, not even audio.
[13:07] <tomreyn> Brawcks: server 2 wont be able to reach its gateway with this configuration
[13:07] <CheetahPixie> (I got a total of three sound processors in my system right now.)
[13:09] <CheetahPixie> So, what do?
[13:10] <Brawcks> tomreyn: Why ? What does it mean ?
[13:10] <Brawcks> What should i change ?
[13:11] <Brawcks> tomreyn: And also why i cant connect from server 1 to server 2 either ?
[13:11] <tomreyn> Brawcks: server 2's default gateway is configured as 54.37.8.1. it's primary ip address is configured as 54.37.14.155/32 (so there is just this one ip address in its subnet). it additional ip addresses could actually reach the gatewa since they are part of a huge /8 (and that's why the traceroute from server 2 to server 1 tries to use the 51.38.10.71/8 address - same subnet as server 1. this way, however, it will never route via the gateway.
[13:14] <Brawcks> tomreyn: Let me some time to understand im still a beginner, trying to get it
[13:14] <tomreyn> Brawcks: summing up: the /8 for the additional ip addresses on server 2 is probably wrong, way too large. also, 54.37.14.155/32 on server 2 is too small if the default gateway is 54.37.8.1.
[13:15] <tomreyn> Brawcks: there is also ##networking if you'd like a better explanation than i'm providing.
[13:15] <ozberk> how to nstall themes on ubuntu 17.04
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> ozberk: 17.04 is end of life
[13:16] <Brawcks> I'll check this chann too for further explanations if needed, but it seems that you are explaining nice. Won't need more from there
[13:17] <Brawcks> tomreyn: I guess i cant change it myself, it's all from OVH, i'll may have to contact them ?
[13:17] <tomreyn> Brawcks: i think you should review the documentation the hosting provider offers and make sure you configure the second server properly. if they provided you with this mess out of the box you'll need to contact support.
[13:19] <Brawcks> tomreyn: Ok, i'll do this then. Thanks for your support it helped me a lot
[13:23] <linurandy> hello to everyone, i had problems with share folder with samba in Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS, I tried a lot of configuration and nothing, anyone could help me, thanks
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> !samba | linurandy start here
[13:29] <tomreyn> Brawcks: welcome
[13:39] <TheTrash> Hi! Uhm... where would I find out what dns server my ubuntu is using?
[13:40] <linurandy> ubottu: the security = user parameter doesn't appear in the file, can i aggregate it?
[13:40] <linurandy> lotuspsychje: the security = user parameter doesn't appear in the file, can i aggregate it?
[13:41] <hggdh> TheTrash: systemd-resolve --status will tell you
[13:44] <TheTrash> hggdh: hm, getting close, but my systemd-resolve doesn't take --status as an argument
[13:45] <CptLuxx> man i have a problem ...
[13:45] <CptLuxx> i have a wrong entry in my fstab for / so wheni boot it fails to mount
[13:45] <CptLuxx> i can boot in recovery but i can not change the fstab because its read only
[13:46] <CptLuxx> and remounting with rw is also not working :/
[13:46] <TheTrash> CptLuxx: best get some live cd that doesn't need to use /
[13:46] <TheTrash> Though I would assume mounting rw should work, why does it fail?
[13:47] <CptLuxx>  - / not mounted already , or bad option
[13:47] <CptLuxx> its an super old ubuntu
[13:47] <TheTrash> What's the line you're using?
[13:47] <CptLuxx> mount / -o remount,rw
[13:48] <CptLuxx> but a lice cd should work?
[13:48] <akik> CptLuxx: it uses the info from /etc/fstab, but you can supply it the correct info
[13:49] <hggdh> TheTrash: try looking at the current lease  under /var/lib/NetworkManager
[13:49] <hggdh> er, dhclient's lease
[13:50] <TheTrash> CptLuxx: uhm could it be that / needs to be at the end, i.e. options need to be specified before mount point?
[13:52] <ozberk> hi people I need to ask another question and need to do some announcements. Firts my OS isn't 17.04 it is 17.10 I just noticed it how funny
[13:52] <CptLuxx> im booting from a cd iso TheTrash
[13:53] <ozberk> second I can't see windows boot manager on grub and well update grub didn't work
[13:53] <CptLuxx> ... lets see if i can fix the fstab then
[13:54] <TheTrash> hggdh: ah yes, found it there, tnx
[13:58] <camil_toughbook> hello
[13:58] <CptLuxx> working replaced the wrong fstab entry
[13:59] <camil_toughbook> testing
[13:59] <Carll> camil_toughbook: hello.
[14:08] <Amichai> ubuntu 16.04 hangs at LightDM after installing and configuring SSSD
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Amichai,  sudo blkid and set the new ssd uuid in /etc/fstab
[14:12] <ioria> Amichai, see if it helps   https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html#sssd-ad-desktop
[14:13] <BluesKaj> or set the new ssd as first in the boot sequence in uefi/bios if you have multiple drives
[14:13] <Amichai> BluesKaj: not and ssd hdd, SSS +AD - to authenticate my machine with an M$ AD
[14:14] <BluesKaj> oh sorry , my mistake Amichai
[14:24] <Nebi> hi
[14:26] <Nebi> I ahve a huge issue with xorg (I think). I was trying to install the right version of my nvidia drivers and doing so let to a situation where restarting I always get to a black screen and can only jump to text mode. I purged nvidia* completely. Reading around maybe I did something with xorg and tried to reinstall that but without success. I have no clue what to do now. Does someone have an idea?
[14:27] <Nebi> While trying to force to create a xorg-cong he gave an error that two devices are on: nouveau and modesetting might that be a start for the problem?
[14:27] <Nebi> (Ubuntu 16.04, kernel 4.4)
[14:32] <NCC_1701D> hi
[14:33] <NCC_1701D> hallo ?
[14:33] <NCC_1701D> german?
[14:33] <Mikespain> Hello
[14:33] <Nebi> hi, yes German, French, Epnglish, Spanish
[14:35] <Mikespain> Anyone here?
[14:36] <Nebi> yes, and wondering if someone can help me :)
[14:36] <Mikespain> Looking for help too
[14:37] <Nebi> what is your issue Mikespain?
[14:38] <Mikespain> How to make wifi work in an early 2009 iMac
[14:38] <Mikespain> Any chance you know about this?
[14:38] <Nebi> No, unfortunately I don't think so
[14:38] <Mikespain> No worries, I think I'd better look for help somewhere else
[14:38] <Mikespain> Good luck :)
[14:39] <Nebi> you, too!
[14:40] <Carll> Nebi: nouveau and modesetting are drivers for nvidia. I'll do some researching..
[14:41] <Carll> Nebi: What verison of ubuntu?
[14:41] <Nebi> Thanks Carll
[14:41] <Nebi> Ubuntu 16.04
[14:43] <Emcy> does anyone know about tlp on thinkpads
[14:44] <Emcy> im trying to understand charge thresholds
[14:44] <Emcy> i just want to limit the charge to 8%
[14:44] <Emcy> 80%
[14:44] <Emcy> so i want charging to occur anywhere between 0 and 80% of capacity
[14:44] <Emcy> but then i dont understand why default is 96/100
[14:46] <Carll> Nebi: OK, so just to clarify here; you get this when the black screen on boot? Have you edited your grub entry?
[14:47] <Nebi> the black screen comes after the boot loading (there where one can usually select the user)
[14:47] <Nebi> Yes Ihave edited the grub entry
[14:47] <Nebi> I ahd changed it to be able to enter in text-only mode but changed it back to the initial gui-mode
[14:48] <Nebi> /etc/default/grub now looks as before I did the change to be able to get into text-only mode
[14:49] <Nebi> But using sudo update-grub might have changed something else?
[14:49] <Carll> Nebi: When you installed your nvidia drivers etc, you may need to change "ro quiet splash" to "ro nomodeset quiet splash"
[14:49] <aurelia> ciao
[14:50] <Nebi> trying
[14:51] <Nebi> Now the loading symbols appeared ugly but it hangs again at the same point
[14:52] <leftyfb> Nebi: was the previous nvidia driver working before?
[14:52] <Carll> Nebi: CTRL + ALT + F2
[14:52] <Nebi> Well yes it was but I had problems installing CUDA and was thus trying around
[14:53] <Nebi> But already while installing I had problems with nvidia until it worked
[14:53] <leftyfb> Nebi: did you already undo whatever you did trying to install CUDA?
[14:54] <Nebi> Yes, I tried to remove everything linked to CUDA except the element in python
[14:54] <leftyfb> Nebi: and what nvidia driver do you have installed now?
[14:54] <Nebi> now I purged all of them
[14:54] <leftyfb> Nebi: ok, you need something installed
[14:55] <leftyfb> Nebi: sudo apt install nvidia-384
[14:55] <Nebi> I tried several and every time I got the same
[14:55] <Nebi> Ok ill try
[14:56] <leftyfb> Nebi: undo the nomedeset
[14:56] <jakatingkir> ubuntu command for import private key address btc
[14:56] <jakatingkir> do you gays know?
[15:00] <Nebi> Still the same issue it seems
[15:01] <Nebi> if I type nvidia-settings it says 'the control display is undefined'
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Nebi, make sure you dkms installed too
[15:04] <leftyfb> BluesKaj: isn't dkms only needed for when you install the the drives from nvidia's website? It shouldn't be needed for the nvidia- packages from the official repo
[15:04] <leftyfb> drives/drivers*
[15:04] <Nebi> BluesKaj, dkms is installed
[15:04] <kc__> hey
[15:05] <Nebi> On one page I've read that running the drivers from the official page can lead to black screen if a certain option is not activated - which I hadnt. But as I purged everythign and retried the same with the option added that did also not solve the issue
[15:07] <Nebi> --no-opengl-files was that command
[15:08] <Nebi> Im trying right now again to run that package with the command
[15:09] <leftyfb> I wouldn't
[15:09] <jakatingkir> "/help"
[15:10] <leftyfb> Nebi: I wouldn't bother with the drivers from nvidia's website until we get the original one working from the ubuntu repo
[15:12] <Nebi> leftyfb, ok
[15:14] <BluesKaj> leftyfb, yes dkms is suppodely installed by default, but one never knows what purges can do with drivers
[15:20] <BluesKaj>  supposedly even
[15:25] <Nebi> I ahvent tried to purge my ubuntu-gnome-desktop yet
[15:31] <Nokaji> Hi, I'm connecting a new printer to v16.04, it's a a Canon Maxify 5150 (5100 Series, apparently). I'm in ADD PRINTER mode, selected CANON, it now has a long list of MAXIFY Printers but of course, not mine ... looking for some help, thanks
[15:32] <Nebi> hmmm just found that libcuda was still installed
[15:32] <untoreh> if run/user/id/gvfs and ~/.gvfs are both empty where does nautilus/gvfs/gio mount the frigging remote shares
[15:35] <Nokaji> It has for e.g (nearest?) 5050, 5090, then 5310, 5350, MB5300 (not maxify?)
[15:36] <Nebi> purging it didnt help either
[15:37] <Sam__> Hey guys, I'm trying to build monero on Tails, but g++ is crashing... any ideas about this?
[15:38] <Sam__> Here's how g++ is crashing:
[15:38] <Sam__> [ 80%] Building CXX object src/rpc/CMakeFiles/obj_rpc.dir/core_rpc_server.cpp.o
[15:38] <Sam__> c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
[15:38] <Sam__> Please submit a full bug report,
[15:38] <Sam__> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
[15:38] <Sam__> See <file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-6/README.Bugs> for instructions.
[15:39] <slidinghorn> !paste > Sam__ For future reference
[15:42] <Nebi> when writing sudo nvidia-xconfig it says: 'package xorg-server was not found in the pfk-config search path' maybe that is the problem?
[15:47] <tokam> hello
[15:47] <tokam> ubuntu is installed on a virtual machine.
[15:47] <Nebi> Has anyone any other idea?
[15:47] <tokam> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pdYdJtcP2P/
[15:47] <tokam> how is that possible?
[15:53] <BlueProtoman> I dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows, but I keep a third partition full of common data (code, music, homework, etc.) so I don't have to copy it between OSes.  However, anything I delete on this common partition doesn't go to the Trash.  Why is that?
[15:53] <V7> Hey all
[15:53] <V7> Is it possible to disable ssh client's try again ( second attempt ) ?
[15:57] <Nebi> OK, thanks anwayway Carll, leftyfb and BluesKaj
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Nebi,  sudo apt install xserver-xoorg-video-nouveau
[16:01] <BluesKaj> oops  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Nebi,^
[16:01] <slidinghorn> V7: See here - (this is a setting described in the man page) https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/89950
[16:02] <V7> Have already seen this one
[16:02] <aury> !list
[16:02] <V7> This is for ssh server, not for client
[16:02] <V7> Btw there's -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=1
[16:02] <Nebi> Thanks BluesKaj, I tried that too
[16:02] <Nebi> I tried purging it and reinstalling
[16:07] <V7> Thank you slidinghorn
[16:08] <V7> Btw, -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 will output Permission denied (publickey,password).
[16:08] <laptop> hi what channel is good to find out about native linux games
[16:08] <V7> laptop: gog.com
[16:09] <laptop> I tried that lol
[16:09] <slidinghorn> laptop: that's not really on topic here
[16:10] <slidinghorn> laptop: I can PM you a couple websites thoug if you'd like
[16:11] <laptop> yes
[16:12] <laptop> please
[16:12] <Nebi> Is there a way of recovery?
[16:13] <kostkon> laptop, http://gamingonlinux.com/
[16:14] <laptop> ty
[16:15] <Nebi> I cannot even start in failsafe graphic mode because he says there are no screens
[16:16] <V7> Is it possible to execute a command with ssh with asking a password, but only one time form a script
[16:16] <V7> For example, read pass; sshpass -p "$pass" ssh server uname will ask a password one more if password was wrong
[16:16] <V7> setting NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 will send a message Permission denied (publickey,password) whereever it was successfull or not
[16:17] <ioria> Nebi, usually that happen when you have a wong xorg.conf
[16:18] <ioria> *s
[16:19] <ioria> Nebi,  i mean 'wrong'
[16:19] <V7> John Wong
[16:21] <Nebi> I was trying to install nvidia drivers.
[16:21] <Nebi> The xorg.conf file might well be the issue
[16:21] <Nebi> I tried loading an old one with no success yet
[16:22] <V7> Anyone ?
[16:22] <ntd> trying to do what with xorg.conf?
[16:22] <ioria> Nebi,   do you have a xorg.conf somewhere  ? /etx/X11  or /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:23] <Nebi> I was trying to fix the one in /etc/X11
[16:23] <Nebi> I havent checked in /usr...
[16:23] <elichai2> hey
[16:23] <ntd>  /usr/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[16:23] <elichai2> how can I install python 3.5 on Ubuntu 17.10
[16:24] <Wulf> elichai2: pyenv
[16:24] <laurus> When I start up my machine, I now hear a quick burst of loud white noise. Now when I try to play any audio file, I hear that same white noise. It's the same no matter what I do with any volume settings. Any ideas?
[16:24] <Nebi> I tried to execute nvidia-xconfig a couple of times without success
[16:24] <tomreyn> tokam: this system is a VM
[16:25] <tomreyn> ... or a container
[16:28] <tomreyn> tokam: run "systemd-detect-virt" or "virt-what" to get a better idea of what you're running in.
[16:29] <tokam> openvz
[16:29] <tomreyn> tokam: you wont be able to make such changes in this containment.
[16:30] <tokam> why?
[16:30] <tokam> will my hoster be able to do it?
[16:30] <tomreyn> tokam: it could impact reliability of the host system, and other users on the same host
[16:30] <tokam> they sell systems running on plesk
[16:30] <tomreyn> so no, strato wont disabl eit for you
[16:30] <tokam> but with plesk php crashes
[16:31] <tokam> and leads to a 503 error
[16:31] <tokam> and plesk suggests that change as a bugfix
[16:31] <tomreyn> tokam: we don't support plesk here, just ubuntu.
[16:31] <tokam> its an ubuntu server.
[16:32] <Nebi> if i run lspci | grep vga the answer is empty
[16:33] <slidinghorn> Nebi: use grep -i vga
[16:33] <slidinghorn> Nebi: grep is case sensitive by default
[16:33] <tomreyn> tokam: you are very welcome to ask any ubuntu related questions here.
[16:34] <Nebi> Thank you slidinghorn: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device
[16:35] <Nebi> Maqybe I have to reactivate the intel default?
[16:36] <Indicium> Test
[16:36] <slidinghorn> elichai2: was there something broken between 3.5 & 3.7?
[16:36] <Nebi> OK, I have to go away for a couple of min. Private msg me please if someone has any idea of what this could be. Im really desperate here
[16:37] <d2r2> hello
[16:37] <d2r2> I was wondering can I install the new LTS on my XX LTS without removing everything
[16:38] <d2r2> like an upgrade and not a formatting and rebooting with 18.04
[16:38] <slidinghorn> d2r2: what do you mean XX LTS?
[16:38] <elichai2> slidinghorn: i'm trying to check if there's a different libc usage
[16:38] <Irritiable|LT> slidinghorn: A previous version (lower).
[16:39] <Irritiable|LT> "XX" = 10.XX for example.
[16:39] <slidinghorn> Irritiable|LT: it matters which previous LTS is being used
[16:39] <Irritiable|LT> slidinghorn: Ah. Your question in and of itself was misleading. Sorry.
[16:39] <d2r2> slidinghorn: no the current LTS Xenial X... I didn't know the last name so typed XX instead
[16:40] <V7> Interesting
[16:40] <V7> Ubuntu Government's essentials tells that it's Virus free
[16:40] <V7> So, if it's not government then it's not free of viruses ?
[16:41] <slidinghorn> d2r2: understood :)  when 18.04 is released, you'll be prompted in the GUI to ask if you want to upgrade...if you prefer to do it via CLI, then make sure all current updates are installed, then do   sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:41] <slidinghorn> V7: what are you talking about? is there an ubuntu support question involved here?
[16:41] <d2r2> that's it?? slidinghorn
[16:42] <Allanis> V7: If I'm not mistaken, I believe that page just refers to how it can be beneficial for business use.
[16:42] <slidinghorn> d2r2: should work like a charm so long as everything is up to date when you run it.  I'd wait until the actual release, however.
[16:43] <V7> Allanis: ... ads
[16:44] <d2r2> slidinghorn: is the april 27 release for Public or still only for developers
[16:44] <Allanis> What?
[16:44] <slidinghorn> d2r2: that's the scheduled public release
[16:45] <d2r2> actually I want to install android studio but didn't know wheather I can upgrade or not so was waiting. I guess I can install it today right?? slidinghorn
[16:48] <hank_> anyone here get the Linux+ cert?
[16:48] <hank_> from comptia
[16:49] <slidinghorn> hank_: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:49] <hank_> No.  Not directly Just chatting sorry.
[16:49] <hank_> I will stop
[16:49] <slidinghorn> hank_: try out #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:49] <hank_> cool thanks
[16:55] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, thank you!!!!!!!!!!
[16:55] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: whaddidido?
[16:57] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, thank you!!!!!!!!!!
[16:57] <FaTaL_G> update-grub was all was needed
[16:57] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: really? well, after all the hassle we went through too, should have done that first :)
[16:57] <FaTaL_G> you suggested it, so I tried it
[16:58] <FaTaL_G> I mean, boot was mountable and clean
[16:59] <FaTaL_G> it booted right up and worked. Even had a memtest+86 entry after doing so
[17:00] <FaTaL_G> now what I assume is the hard part, which is probably going to take quite a bit of learning.... how to get max speed from the gigabit ethernets
[17:00] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: fill the pipes :)
[17:01] <FaTaL_G> Are you "TJ" or "AG"?
[17:01] <FaTaL_G> ;)
[17:03] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: if both ends of a gigabit connection can operate at wire speed it should handle very close to 100 Megabytes/second in each direction simultaenously
[17:05] <FaTaL_G> I can get about 116...... when all is well, but with my ubuntu router, the max I get is about 95 (MB)
[17:05] <FaTaL_G> 116 with the R7000 or R8500
[17:05] <TJ-> That's pretty good
[17:06] <FaTaL_G> but I ****SHOULD**** get 116 with the ubuntu router. So something is not performing up to speed.... pun intended
[17:06] <Guest80544> does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform
[17:06] <FaTaL_G> the catch is, with nighthawk or any cots router, once you add congestion and extra traffic monitoring and xontrol, it drops to like..... 22MB
[17:07] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: right.. speeds will drop once you impose traffic management
[17:07] <TJ-> Because software has to inspect and act on every packet
[17:07] <FaTaL_G> at least my ubuntu solution currently hits the 730+Mb, and stay there mostly
[17:07] <FaTaL_G> I know TJ
[17:08] <FaTaL_G> but thus why I built a real computer vs. ARM processors
[17:09] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: reduce the monitoring/packet inspection. That imposes quite a load. Also, investigate if the load is being shared across all cores or 1 is getting overwhelmed.
[17:10] <FaTaL_G> atm, Im not doing any
[17:10] <FaTaL_G> just iptables
[17:11] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: might be worth checking the interrupt handling "cat /proc/interrupts"
[17:13] <FaTaL_G> is there a top command for that? O_o
[17:14] <FaTaL_G> ahci and local timer interrupts are largest at a glance
[17:14] <FaTaL_G> perfomrance monitoring are double digits... like, 11
[17:15] <FaTaL_G> Majority are entries such as "IR-PCI-MSI 2101252-edge      enp4s0f2-rx-3"
[17:18] <TJ-> !info powertop | FaTaL_G this might be some help
[17:24] <TJ-> !info ntopng | FaTaL_G also this for a more general overview (presents on http://localhost:3000/
[17:30] <TheDoe> how can i disable LLMNR in systemd-resolve? i tried adding LLMNR=no to /etc/systemd/resolved.conf, but when i type "systemd-resolve --status" it "show LLMNR setting: yes", i have tried rebooting computer and restarting systemd-resolved.service
[17:34] <FaTaL_G> is there a cli/cml version of speedtest I can run that reports a speed test up/down in text with os based abilities vs. using mozilla etc?
[17:36] <TJ-> TheDoe: it's a [Network] section entry, where are you using it?
[17:36] <TJ-> !info speedtest-cli | FaTaL_G
[17:37] <FaTaL_G> vn TJ. does the bot use partial, or regex input?
[17:37] <FaTaL_G> !info speed.*
[17:38] <Guest80544> does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform
[17:39] <TheDoe> TJ-: are you taking about the [network] section in NetworkManager config? or the /etc/systemd/resolved.conf file?
[17:39] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: no, only exact. On your local system however you can do "apt-cache search <term>" (or "apt-cache search -n <term>" for package-name-only )
[17:40] <TJ-> TheDoe: I'm reading "man systemd.network" so it's .network files
[17:40] <TheDoe> TJ-: i am editing the file /etc/systemd/resolved.conf there is a line commented out "#LLMNR=yes" i changed it to "LLMNR=no"
[17:41] <TJ-> TheDoe: ahh... "man resolved.conf" says that only applies to *localhost* and the systemd-networkd options control per-link
[17:42] <laptop> what is a good program for converting a pdf into mp3 audio
[17:42] <TheDoe> TheDoe: i think that is related to systemd.networkd which i am not using, and is also disabled by default in ubuntu 17.10. but i could be wrong
[17:44] <TJ-> TheDoe: I assume you're restarting systemd-resolved service to be sure the new config has been read?
[17:44] <TheDoe> TJ-: systemctl "list-unit-files" shows systemd-networkd as disable
[17:44] <TheDoe> TJ-: yes u trued rebooting computer and systemctl restart systemd-resolved
[17:45] <bonhoeffer> i can't get my live usb to run -- screen flickers and nothing more from my monitor
[17:45] <bonhoeffer> i can work all day in the setup mode -- is there a way to see if i can get the live os to run in non-graphics mode
[17:45] <TheDoe> i even checked the journelctl -u systemd-resolvd and it showed it restarted
[17:45] <choma> Hello free node I don't seem to be able to make user plast1k do sudo commands. What might be the issue ? see below  https://paste.ofcode.org/4AFHZ2MTZ9JEVB3KN6NsGV
[17:46] <laptop> any program to convert pdf file in text to speech to mp3
[17:46] <TheDoe> choma: is the user plast1k in the sudoer group?
[17:46] <choma> ok so the group name should be sudo or sudoer ?
[17:46] <TheDoe> choma: i think you have to add that as a secondary group for the user or the command will not work
[17:46] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, Download: 732.15 Mbit/s & Upload: 92.67 Mbit/s, thats on the fwd facing machine where I can normally get 934/934 with a direct connect on the same cat6. SO I will do some digging with those tools
[17:46] <TheDoe> choma: i dont know i am a noob sorry
[17:46] <bonhoeffer> looking for any options
[17:47] <TheDoe> choma: i think group name "sudo" i just checked one of my accounts on my local computer
[17:48] <bonhoeffer> all -- I took a 15 sec video to show this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXR_e4HWTzM
[17:48] <slidinghorn> choma: have you logged out and back in again?
[17:48] <TJ-> TheDoe: hmmm, did you say you've added a file in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf.d/ ?
[17:48] <choma> @theDoe yeah he is in sudo group
[17:48] <TheDoe> choma try "sudo -i" and "su" commands
[17:48] <TJ-> choma: does "group" show the user in group 'sudo' ?
[17:48] <FaTaL_G> TJ-, on the apt-cache, I know that one, but never thought of using -n, it accepts partial text, does it accept regex? hmmmmm......
[17:48] <TheDoe> TJ-: i have not, but i will try that not
[17:48] <TheDoe> TJ-: now*
[17:48] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: yes, read 'man apt-cache'
[17:48] <FaTaL_G> thanks
[17:49] <FaTaL_G> just enver thought of that approach
[17:49] <TJ-> TheDoe: The reason I asked if if you did it thay way I recall some talk about resolved not reading that directory in some circumstances
[17:49] <phaedral> Just upgraded and lost my scrollbar in file manager.
[17:49] <TJ-> FaTaL_G: I use that and 'apt-file search' very often
[17:50] <bonhoeffer> wondering if i can boot to cli only?
[17:50] <TheDoe> TJ-: ok, the only file i edited is /etc/systemd/resolved.conf which the man page said would disable LLMNR
[17:50] <bonhoeffer> i see i can set special boot parameters
[17:51] <TJ-> TheDoe: yeah, that's what I'd expect too!
[17:52] <TheDoe> TJ-: ok thanks anyway
[17:52] <TJ-> TheDoe: how about checking if that file is really read when the service is restarted? you could use inotify to do "sudo inotifywait -mr /etc/systemd"  and then in another terminal "sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved"
[17:52] <ducasse> bonhoeffer: try 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target'
[17:52] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: yes, ^^^^
[17:53] <TheDoe> TJ-: good idea i will try now
[17:54] <Guest80544> does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform
[17:54] <bonhoeffer> ok
[17:54] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: you can also set that as the default with "systemctl set-default multi-user.target"
[17:55] <bonhoeffer> ducasse: i don't see that in other options
[17:55] <bonhoeffer> i was going to try without installing and do nomodeset noapic and acpi=off
[17:55] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: you'd add it manually at boot-time via GRUB boot menu entry editing, or write it into GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT of /etc/default/grub
[17:56] <bonhoeffer> how do i get to that?
[17:56] <ducasse> bonhoeffer: enter it in grub on the 'linux' line
[17:56] <bonhoeffer> sorry -- liveusb starts up
[17:56] <bonhoeffer> "try, install check disk for defects, etc" after picking my language
[17:57] <bonhoeffer> i was able to run live usb withnomode set etc
[17:58] <TheDoe> TJ-: i think it read the file /etc/systemd/ OPEN resolved.conf and "/etc/systemd/ ACCESS resolved.conf" and "/etc/systemd/ CLOSE_NOWRITE,CLOSE resolved.conf"
[18:01] <bonhoeffer> one error was: ERROR: Unable to locate IOAPIC for GSI
[18:01] <bonhoeffer> how do i see the errors on boot?
[18:03] <TJ-> TheDoe: looks like it. So either your syntax is wrong or resolved actually ignores it
[18:03] <goatia> Hi all, I need some guidence please! Just installed a fresh copy of UbuntuStudio on a new HD, I want to switch between 2 enviroments, Studio and Ubuntu 17.10, one for my music and production, the other for an office envioroment. Any suggestions on how I could do this? Ubunu 17.10 will replace Studio if I wanted to install it alongside!
[18:05] <TheDoe> TJ-: maybe i could turn debug logging on journelctl and have a look
[18:06] <TJ-> TheDoe: does "journalctl -u systemd-resolved" show it reading ?
[18:06] <EriC^^> goatia: install ubuntu-desktop package
[18:06] <TJ-> TheDoe: I was wondering the same thing, don't see anything obvious in the man pages so far
[18:07] <EriC^^> goatia: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:08] <EriC^^> goatia: once sec, i'm not that familiar with ubuntu studio, it has it's own desktop environment?
[18:08] <Guest80544> does seccomp need to be activated in ubuntu somehow to be used? I am getting an error in firejail as if its not being used: Warning fseccomp: --protocol not supported on this platform
[18:08] <ducasse> EriC^^: it uses xfce
[18:09] <goatia> Yes, thats the thing, perfect for my studio work but im lost in the office side of things
[18:09] <EriC^^> ducasse: aha thanks
[18:10] <EriC^^> goatia: alright, just open a terminal and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and choose it from the login page where you usually login
[18:10] <goatia> Fantastic, let me try that! Thanks man
[18:10] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:11] <TJ-> Guest80544: check with "grep seccomp /proc/kallsyms"
[18:13] <Guest80544> TJ-: https://zerobin.net/?08055624d4fa05c8#2tS01+p3T7zrnRQPNgkx1Bz/XSUVsBqOWDtyHJeKeag=
[18:14] <TJ-> Guest80544: looks like seccomp is built in
[18:14] <TJ-> Guest80544: which Ubuntu release is it, and which kernel version? (cat /etc/issue; uname -r)
[18:15] <TheDoe> TJ-: cant see anything in the "journalctl -u systemd-resolved" logs about reading the config fail or failing to read it, i am out of ideas now
[18:15] <TJ-> TheDoe: me neither, not very transparent is it!?
[18:15] <pikapika> dd from /dev/zero to disk file stabilizes at about 100 MB/s. dd between disk files to about 30-40. Dont have external hdd now, so cant test xfer speeds between ext hdd and internal. So why is file manager (Thunar) so slow? Most of the time the speed stays around 10 MB or even slower. Of course, copying several small files is slower than copying few large files. But even during xfer of large files (3-5 GB) it stays at such speeds most of the time. What
[18:15] <pikapika> might be the reason?
[18:15] <Guest80544> TJ-: https://zerobin.net/?5a553a234150f0cb#OWB+oB5I+TJsYQyN3ISfcqIL7sE5ySQuE8q8gptLz8I=
[18:16] <TheDoe> TJ-: thanks for the help, i guess its not super important its just anoying me. i will take a break and come back to this with a clear head. i will leave irc open just in case u think of something
[18:16] <TJ-> TheDoe: try asking in #systemd channel
[18:16] <TheDoe> TJ-: ok thats a good idea i will do that now
[18:17] <TJ-> Guest80544: seems standard; I use firejail (but on 18.04 here) - so not sure if that is expected on 16.04/4.13
[18:18] <pikapika> In fact the 30-40 value was from a small block size, repeating the experiment with bs=100M it stays mostly around 50MB which makes sense.
[18:19] <xissburg> why's apt-get cmake version 3.5.1 while the latest version is way above (3.11)?
[18:21] <pikapika> Oh and both partitions are same type (ext4)
[18:21] <ducasse> !latest | xissburg
[18:22] <xissburg> heh
[18:24] <tyamur> test
[18:31] <bonhoeffer> how can i test my video card from a live usb? i have a window manager open -- but it is showing display as x.Org
[18:37] <bonhoeffer> does this spell any specific hardware trouble: https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/3e3a43c9e464535e9e81d05d5c6d07b1
[18:50] <Nebi> Hi, I'm back. Don't know if the same ppl from before are still here
[18:52] <ice9> how to install ubuntu for UEFI booting?
[18:53] <ducasse> !uefi | ice9
[18:56] <Nebi> Hi, I will retry to ask the question from today differently as I still have the same issue. Lets assume I installed the nvidia-drivers wrongly because I have not put a command at the end --no-open-gl-files. What could have broken that, so that I have now no screen in X?
[18:56] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: you should upgrade your bios.
[18:56] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: ok -- will do that
[18:57] <bonhoeffer> bios on the graphics card or mobo?
[18:57] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: actually you'r eon the latest, sorry. i mean the mainboard firmware
[18:58] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: i'm surprised there is not a newer one for this threadripper board.
[18:58] <bonhoeffer> sorry, i'm lost -- what firmware should i update?
[18:58] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: none, please ignore what i said. ;)
[18:58] <tomreyn> is there any issue, though?
[18:59] <ioria> Nebi what i think is that you used the Nvidia  installer, and not the ubuntu repo version
[18:59] <Nebi> (I tried to purge in the meantime nvidia-drivers, I reinstalled x-org and even ubuntu-desktop..)
[19:00] <Nebi> ioria, thanks for the answer. Yes exactly I used the Nvidia installer. What could this Nvidia installer have broken?
[19:00] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: i think something is really wrong with my machine -- but maybe it is just a windows problem
[19:00] <ioria> Nebi why did you use that installer ?
[19:00] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: what makes you think so?
[19:01] <Nebi> Well at the beginning I was trying unsuccessfully to install CUDA. I though that maybe my issue was linked to the nvidia driver. So I tried like to install one that would be supported by CUDA. This brought me to that pickle that I have now no screen at all.
[19:01] <Nebi> Actually I tried first some repo ones before downloading the nvidia one
[19:02] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: the multiple graphics card failures to keep sending stuff to the monitor
[19:03] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: that's an artful (17.10.1) live / installer you're booting there, right?
[19:03] <bonhoeffer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXR_e4HWTzM
[19:03] <bonhoeffer> just 14 seconds as an example
[19:03] <bonhoeffer> see the flicker and then, nothing
[19:03] <ioria> Nebi  please highlight the nick of the person you're talking to or we'll lose track
[19:03] <bonhoeffer> it is an lubuntu live usb
[19:03] <Nebi> ioria like that? Sorry.
[19:03] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: which version exactly?
[19:04] <ioria> Nebi  yep   sudo apt install pastebinit
[19:05] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: this message does not look healthy. https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/3e3a43c9e464535e9e81d05d5c6d07b1#file-my_dmseg-txt-L762 - you may need updated mesa, kenrel, graphics card firmware.
[19:05] <Nebi> ioria ok installed
[19:05] <ioria> Nebi   dpkg -l | grep cuda | pastebinit
[19:06] <Nebi> ioria result is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7TdMTsG4Kb/
[19:06] <ioria> Nebi   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[19:08] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhyWR8t89M
[19:08] <Nebi> ioria Im trying again
[19:08] <ioria> Nebi   what are you trying ?
[19:09] <Nebi> ioria the link was wrong here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3hyWR8t78M/
[19:09] <ioria> ok
[19:09] <Nebi> ioria Im writing from another computer
[19:09] <ioria> Nebi   i see: sudo apt purge nvidia*   (note the *)
[19:10] <Nebi> ioria done. Shoudl I also do that with CUDA? I was surprised that it was still there
[19:10] <ioria> Nebi   i see: sudo apt purge cuda
[19:11] <ioria> Nebi   i see: sudo apt purge cuda*
[19:11] <Nebi> ioria ok done
[19:11] <f00> hello, i have an issue with graphic card. in my systray appeared an exclamation mark. actice graphics card: unknown. before there was nvidia icon
[19:12] <ioria> Nebi   cd int the download nvidia installer
[19:12] <f00> reinstalled nvidia driver, but could not solve the problem
[19:12] <ioria> Nebi   cd in the download nvidia installer directory
[19:12] <Nebi> ioria ok im there
[19:13] <ioria> Nebi  are you using gnome-sherll  or unity ?
[19:13] <ioria> *shell
[19:13] <Nebi> ioria unity
[19:13] <sere> is there a favorite mini board like rasberry pi for any overall cumputer
[19:13] <ioria> Nebi  sudo service lightdm stop
[19:13] <sere> to run a full ubuntu desktop sorry
[19:14] <Nebi> ioria done
[19:14] <ioria> Nebi  sudo sh NVIDIA* --uninstall
[19:17] <Nebi> ioria it says: "If you plan to no longer use the NVIDIA driver, you should make sure thjat no X screens are configured tp use the NVIDIA X driver in your X configuration file. If you used nvidia-xconfig to confgigure Xm it may have created a backup of your noriginal conf. Woudl you like to run 'nvidia-xconfig --restore-original-backup' to attempt restoation of the original X conf file?
[19:17] <Nebi> ioria I tried several times to install it and also to modify the conf several times
[19:17] <Nebi> ioria but I see that message the first time
[19:17] <royal_screwup21> when you sudo apt-get install <some_package>, what package repository are you specifically calling?
[19:17] <ioria> Nebi  no backup
[19:18] <Nebi> ioria so I click on no?
[19:18] <ioria> Nebi  yes, completely remove it
[19:19] <Nebi> ioria ok, done
[19:19] <ioria> Nebi  sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[19:21] <Nebi> ioria quite a lot of results back. Most of them are in /etc/X11/ /usr/share/X11/ and two files also in /usr/share/man
[19:21] <ioria> Nebi locate xorg.conf  | pastebinit
[19:22] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VCyJSYV8nJ
[19:24] <ioria> Nebi  cd /etc/X11 && sudo rm xorg*
[19:24] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: the one which offers the package at the highest apt priority
[19:25] <Nebi> ioria ok done
[19:25] <ioria> Nebi  cat /proc/cmdline    (you can paste it here)
[19:25] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: "apt policy <package>" to find out more
[19:25] <tomreyn> royal_screwup21: look for "installation candidate"
[19:26] <royal_screwup21> cool thanks!
[19:27] <Nebi> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-119-generic root=UUID=c811f5ae-ba90-4d48-bd58-e76f4b571dcc ro quiet splash nogpumanager vt.handoff=7
[19:27] <ioria> Nebi  what about the 'nogpumanager' ?
[19:27] <Nebi> ioria sorry forgot to put your name. see above. nogpumanager I have isnerted also subsequently today trying to fix
[19:28] <Nebi> ioria it wasnt at the beginning but it was one of many things I have tried
[19:28] <ioria> Nebi  cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit
[19:29] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9RPBT9v3D8/
[19:30] <ioria> Nebi  sudo nano  /etc/default/grub  ; remove nogpumanager   and run  sudo update-grub
[19:31] <Nebi> ioria ok done
[19:31] <ioria> Nebi  lspci    lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | pastebinit
[19:31] <bonhoeffer> i ran ./amdgpu-pro-install –y -- how do i get the driver to run now
[19:31] <bonhoeffer> as it is, i'm just using the default screen and it is killing me
[19:32] <ioria> Nebi  sy,    lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | pastebinit
[19:32] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9xG2gD7tQp/
[19:33] <bonhoeffer> i thought monitor settings would have it -- but that has no options outside the defalut
[19:33] <bonhoeffer> default
[19:34] <ioria> Nebi  sy,    sudo lshw -c Video | pastebinit
[19:35] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQtfjvc8TZ/
[19:35] <ioria> Nebi  what nvidia card do you have ?
[19:36] <Nebi> ioria GTX1050
[19:36] <bonhoeffer> i'm pretty sure the driver is installed correctly, but how do i get my monitor to use it?
[19:36] <ioria> Nebi  ok, try to reboot
[19:37] <ioria> Nebi  i think we need the nvidia ppa btw
[19:37] <goatia> Hi guys, question, can I install Linux Mint, and still keep Ubuntu, with the option to switch between them? I tried the usb installation method but it wants me to overwrite Ubuntu, I dont want to do that!
[19:37] <feodoran> Hi, is it somehow possible to detect whether some display device is powered on? xrandr will tell me whether it is connected (=cable is plugged in), but that is a different thing.
[19:37] <Nebi> ioria i rebooted - blackscreen
[19:37] <bonhoeffer> oh -- i guess just reboot
[19:38] <Nebi> ioria which one shall I choose?
[19:38] <ioria> Nebi  ubuntu-divers list | pastebinit
[19:38] <ioria> Nebi  ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit
[19:39] <Nebi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J9HkFtWGp9/
[19:40] <ioria> Nebi  ok, we try to boot with nomodeset and then we try 390 from ppa ; sudo nano /etc/default/grub   and add nomodeset after quiet splash
[19:40] <feodoran> goatia: you will need a separate partition on your disk for each OS. or just use a separate hard drive.
[19:40] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . . installed r9 driver and rebooted and still terrible default resolution
[19:40] <ioria> Nebi  and   after run sudo update-grub
[19:40] <bonhoeffer> any ideas?
[19:41] <goatia> Thanks, makes sense, you dont know what file system I should format that new partition?
[19:42] <Nebi> ioria the result of nomodeset is that the loading symbol looks ugly (squares with red dots) and now its stuck again
[19:42] <feodoran> ext4 should always work for linux
[19:42] <Nebi> ioria so grub back and 390?
[19:42] <ioria> Nebi  have you rebooted ?
[19:43] <goatia> Thanks a million :)
[19:43] <Nebi> ioria yes: change, update-grub and reboot
[19:43] <bonhoeffer> i was thinking there is some way to force ubuntu to use my graphics card driver instead of the default
[19:43] <Nebi> ioria while rebooting ubuntu's loading sign appeared ugly. but it stuck again in balck screen
[19:44] <ioria> Nebi  have you done something else that we don't know ?
[19:45] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: you wont be able to install a different driver on the live / installer usb. it uses temporary storage only.
[19:46] <ioria> Nebi  nvm; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-390
[19:46] <Nebi> ioria Ok let me seriously think. I installed CUDA and then modified the nvidia drivers. I had another problem before. I actually wrote sudo apt upgrade. This installed a newer kernel 4.13. But with 4.13 my system started to get crazy and it froze completely. I rememebr that I had that issue already once. So I removed all the elements of 4.13 so that it is back to 4.4 Actually I did that and everyxthing was runnign normal again. So I continued wit
[19:46] <Nebi> ht he nvidia drivers
[19:46] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer:if you want to test such things without installing ubuntu to your fixed storage then you'll need to install it to another removable storage and boot off that
[19:47] <Nebi> ioria during one of the tests with the nvidia drivers I had to change the grub to reboot in text mode. I did upgrade-grub with the text-booting but had a copy of the initial grub that I put back (and that you saw before)
[19:47] <Nebi> ioria (Ok I'm on it)
[19:48] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: no -- i'm using a hard disk install now
[19:49] <ioria> Nebi    and paste dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[0-9]
[19:49] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: alright, it'd be good to point such things out since we can't watch over your shoulder
[19:49] <bonhoeffer> apologies tomreyn
[19:49] <bonhoeffer> will do
[19:50] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: no worries, i'm just pointing this out, it's not easy to think about all the things you need to describe to get support.
[19:50] <ioria> Nebi   wait you already have that ppa installed
[19:50] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: anothe rone would be which ubuntu release you installed there, and whether you fuly updates it, yet
[19:51] <Nebi> ioria It is installing
[19:51] <Nebi> ioria it finished already
[19:51] <ioria> Nebi   396 it's not inhe ubuntu repo
[19:51] <bonhoeffer> fully updated 17.10
[19:52] <ioria> Nebi   remove nomodeset , sudo update-grub and reboot
[19:52] <Nebi> ioria I just installed the 390 as you told me above
[19:52] <ioria> Nebi  yes, but your http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J9HkFtWGp9/  shows 396 ...
[19:52] <Nebi> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5RBVbvQq45
[19:53] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: what's your graphics hardware? lspci -knnv | grep VGA
[19:53] <Nebi> ioria I tried many different things for the nvidia drivers
[19:53] <ioria> Nebi  oh man
[19:53] <Nebi> ioria sorry :)
[19:53] <ioria> Nebi   remove nomodeset , sudo update-grub and reboot
[19:54] <Nebi> ioria ok rebooting
[19:54] <Nebi> ioria black screen (the loading appeared nice again)
[19:55] <ioria> Nebi   open a console and sudo service lightdm restart
[19:55] <Nebi> ioria WORKED!
[19:55] <ioria> Nebi   mmm
[19:56] <Nebi> ioria X started and everything looks normal!
[19:56] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: i suggest you also post another dmesg output. i need to leave for now, though.
[19:56] <ioria> Nebi   sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target  and reboot
[19:57] <laptop> any proggrams that convert text to sound and mp3 without recording
[19:57] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: ok
[19:58] <Nebi> ioria woohoooo!! rebooted normally!!! THankksss!!!!!!!
[19:58] <ioria> Nebi   ok, good job
[19:58] <Nebi> ioria I was on it the entire day!!! Amazing!
[19:59] <ioria> Nebi  it's ok
[20:00] <Nebi> ioria I'm going now to have a drink on you! You are a hero!
[20:00] <ioria> Nebi  no problem mate, have a good drink
[20:01] <Nebi> ioria thanks, see you around!
[20:01] <ioria> Nebi  sure
[20:12] <nuka-cola> nuka-cola
[20:20] <laserbeak4445> pyrenamer has disapear from the bionic repos..and the official site for the app are offline. This little app was really handy to batch rename files. Any good alternatives out there?
[20:22] <hanetzer> is there somewhere I can view the buildscripts for ubuntu packages in a browser? I'm currently away from my linux rig
[20:22] <slidinghorn> laserbeak4445: gprename?
[20:22] <srneo> hello everbody
[20:23] <nuka-cola_> hola
[20:23] <laserbeak4445> slidinghorn: are you using it?
[20:24] <slidinghorn> hanetzer: check out packages.ubuntu.com  you can get the source of any package in the repos including a separate archive of the debian build directory
[20:24] <slidinghorn> laserbeak4445: I'm not - I do know it's in the repos though
[20:24] <srneo> hola nuka
[20:24] <hanetzer> slidinghorn: ok, cool. and if I'd like a log of the build?
[20:25] <srneo> ¿qué pasa hoy?
[20:25] <slidinghorn> !es
[20:25] <laserbeak4445> slidinghorn: I will give it a shot. Thank you
[20:25] <slidinghorn> laserbeak4445: no problem!
[20:27] <phaedral> Upgraded to?
[20:27] <phaedral> sorry
[20:28] <flashmozzg> hello, are symlinks on ubuntu 15.10 broken?
[20:28] <phaedral> Not sure what happened there.
[20:29] <phaedral> Upgraded to Mint 18 yesterday. Not thrilled. Drop-down boxes don't navigate quite the same.
[20:33] <srneo> how is this ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[20:34] <tomreyn> srneo: come again?
[20:35] <tomreyn> !es | srneo
[20:36] <tomreyn> !pt | srneo
[20:43] <Draconiator> Is there something similar to CCleaner for Linux?
[20:44] <leftyfb> Draconiator: linux doesn't really have those problems
[20:49] <jkemppainen> while registry issues and fragmentation aren't that much of an issue, something like BleachBit isn't bad
[20:54] <elyptic> Looking for an Ubuntu compatible < 12" laptop. Any suggestions? Currently looking at either the HP Stream 11 Pro G4 or the Asus VivoBook E203NA. Both 11.6", both have 4GB RAM and 64 GB eMMC. Asus has a dual core Celeron, HP has a quad core Celeron. Any experience / preferences?
[20:55] <laptop> i would go with 1gb pentium 4 1 ghz computer
[20:55] <laptop> you can still stream netflix
[20:55] <leftyfb> laptop: pleasE don't
[20:56] <laptop> i was going to say commodore 64
[20:56] <laptop> but you cannot run linux on it
[20:56] <leftyfb> laptop: if you're not going to help, please don't
[20:57] <elyptic> laptop: Ya... Not really what I'm looking for. Need ultra portable / cheap / secure for travel.
[20:57] <leftyfb> elyptic: your question is one of personal preference and experience of hardware. Not really the scope of this channel.
[20:57] <leftyfb> elyptic: you could look to see if system76 or zareason have solutions you're looking for
[20:58] <leftyfb> elyptic: other than that, it's not quite your specs, but the Dell XPS 13 comes with ubuntu
[20:58] <elyptic> leftyfb: Thanks. I'll look there.
[20:59] <leftyfb> elyptic: for more information on compatibility, you could also check https://certification.canonical.com/
[20:59] <elyptic> leftyfb: Thanks. Wasn't aware of that resource.
[20:59] <leftyfb> actually, it's https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/
[20:59] <leftyfb> sorry
[21:21] <dman777> What is the difference between the cloud install and minimal install?
[21:26] <Comopollas> Hi
[21:26] <Comopollas> Does Ubuntu support pollas?
[21:26] <Comopollas> i use ubuntu 17.10
[21:26] <TJ-> elyptic: as leftyfb says but I'm currently using an Asus T300CHI transformer M-5Y71 1.2GHz 8GB RAM 128GB SSD 12.5" touch and it works very well with U untu 18.04, kernel 4.15
[21:27] <Comopollas> Hahahaha nice one
[21:27] <Comopollas> Hey mint
[21:27] <jkemppainen> Comopollas: please troll elsewhere. thank you
[21:28] <Comopollas> Are you German?
[21:28] <Comopollas> Sieg heil man
[21:28] <tester> please ban the nazi
[21:28] <jkemppainen> !ops Comopollas inappropriate nickname in Spanish, using Nazi speech in channel
[21:28] <Comopollas> Im not nazi
[21:28] <Comopollas> Just support them in my free time
[21:29] <tester> yeah, sieg heil on holocaust tday
[21:29]  * jkemppainen facepalms
[21:29] <Comopollas> Lol
[21:29] <slidinghorn> um...wrong person.
[21:29] <oerheks> !ops | Comopollas should be banned
[21:30] <Comopollas> Can't wait to see how lts is going to be with these programmers
[21:30] <AiOGajo> Hi. Can someone help me? I am having trouble installing Ubuntu on my laptop
[21:30] <Comopollas> Yes
[21:31] <Comopollas> What version are you using?
[21:31] <Comopollas> And what's the problem :)
[21:31] <AiOGajo> I've try the 16 lts and 17, and the problem is the same
[21:31] <AiOGajo> also the flavours Ubuntu studio
[21:32] <slidinghorn> !details | AiOGajo
[21:32] <AiOGajo> slidinghorn: i am writing
[21:33] <AiOGajo> I can run ubuntu from a usb pen and enter live mode, perform a clean install but then when reboot
[21:33] <AiOGajo> after the laptop splash screen i only get a black screen with a cursor on left top corner
[21:33] <Comopollas> You need to install cojones chupador 2.74
[21:33] <slidinghorn> Comopollas: troll elsewhere please
[21:34] <leftyfb> !op | Comopollas
[21:34] <AiOGajo> Comopollas: thank you... i know how to speak spanish and i undestood that
[21:34] <laptop> sorry i do not use ubuntu i use bodh
[21:34] <laptop> bodhi
[21:34] <leftyfb> laptop: Again, if you are not helping, please don't bother chiming in
[21:35] <AiOGajo> I am having this problem with Ubuntu and Mint :( But I am not having this problem with Elementary for example and also Deepin...
[21:36] <AiOGajo> But i can run live versons with no problem.
[21:36] <oerheks> !nomodeset | maybe this boot option helps, AiOGajo
[21:37] <AiOGajo> oerheks: I had tried that
[21:37] <Comepollas> Hi
[21:37] <MarceeZ> Hello all i have problem with appache2
[21:37] <Comepollas> I think my connection failed. You need chupa cojones
[21:37] <MarceeZ> How i can track why my appache2 not starting?
[21:37] <AiOGajo> Comopollas: thank you... i know how to speak spanish and i undestood that
[21:37] <slidinghorn> !op | Comepollas ban evasaion
[21:38] <leftyfb> MarceeZ: sudo systemctl status apache2
[21:39] <arvin_> MarceeZ: check out the log file... $ tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log (and maybe access.log) while you try and access the site
[21:40] <venmx> is there meant to be a known issue with the latest kernel image for 16.04? my lappy hangs at boot right after bios but before i can see any messages
[21:40] <Comepollas_> Hi
[21:40] <Comepollas_> How can I install chupa cojones?
[21:41] <oerheks> el
[21:41] <el> i'm aware thanks
[21:42] <AiOGajo> Well i'll try again... thank you guys
[21:42] <AiOGajo> [[]]
[21:42] <Comepollas> Ei: do you know pollas?
[21:56] <ubuntu> Hello
[21:59] <andysom25> anyone willing to help with a quick iscsiadm issue ?
[22:00] <YujinS> hi
[22:01] <slidinghorn> andysom25: go ahead and ask your question - if someone knows the answerr, they'll respond :)
[22:04] <andysom25> sure, so when I do an iscsiadm -m session --rescan because I resized, I get the following error :iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/bus/scsi/devices/7:0:0:0/rescan err 13 iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan err 13
[22:04] <andysom25> I resized the partition and I just want that to be picked up by ubuntu
[22:08] <tomreyn> andysom25: try echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan
[22:08] <andysom25> responds with  - /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan
[22:09] <tomreyn> andysom25: then try your iscsiadm command again
[22:09] <andysom25> same error
[22:09] <andysom25> iscsiadm -m session --rescan Rescanning session [sid: 1, target: iqn.2000-01.com.synology:RackStation.name, portal: 192.168.1.91,3260] iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/bus/scsi/devices/7:0:0:0/rescan err 13  iscsiadm: Could not open /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan err 13
[22:10] <tomreyn> andysom25: are you sure you typed this properly? i dont think it would ever respond with "- /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan"
[22:10] <tomreyn> i'd expect it to repsond with an error message or nothing at all
[22:10] <andysom25> echo /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan
[22:11] <andysom25> oh
[22:11] <andysom25> here we go
[22:11] <andysom25> -bash: /sys/class/scsi_host/host7/scan: Permission denied
[22:11] <tomreyn> are you root?
[22:11] <andysom25> ahhh
[22:11] <andysom25>  hahaha
[22:11] <andysom25> that should be it
[22:11] <andysom25> lets see
[22:12] <tomreyn> you can run it similarily with sudo if you prefer
[22:12] <andysom25> hmm rescan happened but did not seem to pickup new space when I look via glances
[22:12] <andysom25> oh the gui picks it up though
[22:12] <andysom25> interesting
[22:13] <tomreyn> it either worked or it didn't ;-)
[22:14] <andysom25> gui disks interface shows it
[22:22] <nowayy> Hello, I often find myself in heavily beating away at some task and then wish to pause that task and work on another more pressing task. Currently I'm using workspaces but I basically just want to have a fresh session. Is this possible on Ubuntu? Maybe with something like switching displays or something?
[22:22] <nowayy> screens*
[22:23] <kostkon> nowayy, i dont know. start a 2nd x session on tty8?
[22:24] <bugtraq> hay evryone -- .'
[22:24] <kostkon> bugtraq, hi
[22:27] <CheetahPixie> okay
[22:27] <CheetahPixie> can someone help me with gameport now?
[22:28] <kostkon> CheetahPixie, might as well repost your problem
[22:29] <CheetahPixie> Or, well, not just Gameport.
[22:29] <CheetahPixie> I have a Maestro 2E that doesn't work.
[22:29] <CheetahPixie> It's detected, the driver loads, but it does not appear as a sound device at all.
[22:31] <kostkon> CheetahPixie, how old is the card. you mentioned having a gameport. also   aplay -l
[22:32] <CheetahPixie> Doesn't show it.
[22:33] <kostkon> CheetahPixie, lspci -vv
[22:34]  * tomreyn just stumbled upon a 2003 forum post discussing an ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E (rev 10) sound card
[22:34] <CheetahPixie> Yes, I did that.It shows up.
[22:35] <kostkon> CheetahPixie, how old is the system it is on
[22:35] <CheetahPixie> My personal rig, out of which the newest component is an RX 480.
[22:37] <nowayy> kostkon, I switch between virtual consoles using ctrl-alt-f<>. But they don't all open a gnome session. How can I always open a gnome session?
[22:37] <nowayy> Ubuntu 16.04
[22:39] <CheetahPixie> So nobody has a clue I'm guessing?
[22:39] <kostkon> nowayy, what have you done so far regarding the 2nd x session (am i guessing right?)
[22:40] <nowayy> kostkon, yes. I just switch to it using Ctrl-Alt-F<session-num>. Maybe I need to add some X11 session script?
[22:41] <kostkon> nowayy, so you have to manually start gdm every time
[22:41] <nowayy> I know *nothing* about this display stuff, kostkon. But is the command just gdm?
[22:44] <kostkon> nowayy, oh you are just pressing the buttons, nothing else's been done so far
[22:44] <nowayy> kostkon, yep
[22:47] <kostkon> nowayy, oldie but goodie i guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LALnzOxsZI
[22:48] <drewbert> Is there any version of ubuntu that runs the 4.1 kernel?
[22:49] <drewbert> Mrp: https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
[22:50] <CheetahPixie> Why do you ask? drewbert
[22:50] <CheetahPixie> There are various ones that use a newer one.
[22:50] <CheetahPixie> If you're looking for a behavior specific to 4.1, you can use a program to install that kernel.
[22:51] <drewbert> We've got an embedded system that runs a 4.1 kernel, and I want to use PyUpdater to package an application for it, but PyUpdater only packages for the system it is running on, so I wanted to be running a 4.1 kernel.
[22:51] <drewbert> what program do you recommend?
[22:51] <drewbert> That kernel doesn't seem to be in apt for xenial.
[22:52] <CheetahPixie> UKUU is the only real one. Is this an Ubuntu system?
[22:52] <oerheks> drewbert, so how is that related to ubuntu, seems like that embeddded does not run ubuntu, right?
[22:52] <drewbert> But the packaging system is running ubuntu. :)
[22:52] <CheetahPixie> But is the target running Ubuntu?
[22:53] <drewbert> No
[22:53] <CheetahPixie> It'd seem a little silly to start trying to get a .deb installed on a Red Hat system or the like.
[22:53] <CheetahPixie> What Linux does it run?
[22:53] <CheetahPixie> Why not use that distro on the packaging system?
[22:53] <CheetahPixie> (I'm guessing Tinycore.)
[22:53] <leftyfb> drewbert: you'll need to seek support for your distribution
[22:54] <drewbert> It's running a house-rolled distribution that has no package systems on it.
[22:54] <leftyfb> drewbert: ok, then you're on your own
[22:54] <leftyfb> drewbert: This channel is only for ubuntu
[22:55] <drewbert> Well seeing as how my question is about how to install a specific kernel version on ubuntu, I think it's fair game.
[22:55] <CheetahPixie> So why is Ubuntu equivalent to that system?
[22:56] <leftyfb> drewbert: sudo apt install linux-image-<version>
[22:56] <drewbert> PyUpdater packages everything up-to but excluding libc.
[22:56] <leftyfb> that's how you install a kernel in ubuntu
[22:56] <CheetahPixie> UKUU makes it a bunch simpler, though.
[22:56] <CheetahPixie> Not to mention 4.1 is wildly outdated and not an LTS kernel.
[22:57] <CheetahPixie> (At least not in Ubuntu land, but Debian may be different.)
[22:59] <oerheks> drewbert, try ##linux perhaps?
[23:00] <drewbert> Thanks oerheks and CheetahPixie, I've got some leads to investigate now. :)
[23:00] <CheetahPixie> Enjoy.
[23:00] <Nokaji> is there a simple way to de-archive a .dmg file? (apple disk image)
[23:00] <CheetahPixie> Nokaji Archive Manager doesn't work?
[23:00] <Nokaji> I've tried installing pzip and arxhive maner (file-roller??)
[23:01] <Nokaji> Checkmate: doesn't recognise format ..
[23:01] <Nokaji> pparently should do once pzip installed, maybe I need to reboot
[23:01] <Nokaji> maybe I'll reboot into windows
[23:05] <CheetahPixie> By the way drewbert kernels down to 4.0 are available on the newest release.
[23:06] <CheetahPixie> ...although that's a Vivid Vervet kernel, probably a bad idea to run.
[23:06] <CheetahPixie> And up to 4.1.48 in your range.
[23:06] <CheetahPixie> The 18 oldest are Wily Werewolf kernels.
[23:07] <quartie> Hello
[23:07] <CheetahPixie> Hello and goodmorning.
[23:20] <nowayy> kostkon, so I ctl-alt-F1 to enter the first TTY1 shell. Then I enter 'startx -- :1' and the new Ubuntu session starts. However it's flawed: there isn't the top or left bars. Also my dual monitor setup is not preserved. Finally when I go back to the original GUI session using ctl-alt-F7, I'm logged out from it.
[23:20] <nowayy> aren't*
[23:24] <kostkon> nowayy, might be able to fine tune it a bit if you can find a proper how-to
[23:59] <Drakeskywing> Hey all, weird issue I can't seem to find a solution for, using a dual screen display with my laptop, it seems the secondary display is working, though I can only click on the sidebar, none of the windows on the secondary display (my inbuilt) are working. Using ubuntu 16.04, any help is appreciated, and I have tried to find a solution but can't think of anything else to google