[11:02] <bluesabre> !team | Please take a moment early this week to check if all of your important branch updates have been packaged up and released, let me know if we've missed anything. :)
[11:04] <krytarik> xubuntu-docs just comes to my mind personally here..
[11:20] <flocculant> morning bluesabre 
[11:23] <bluesabre> morning flocculant 
[11:23] <bluesabre> morning krytarik 
[11:23] <flocculant> luckily I can ignore the previous ping :p
[11:24] <flocculant> btw " Am running xfce4 from the Xubuntu-Core iso (freaking brilliant btw)."
[11:24] <bluesabre> krytarik: looks like we have the latest -docs uploaded
[11:25] <krytarik> bluesabre: Morning.  And I think I'll just enable automatic translations export on that for a day or two - then you get to upload that too. :P
[11:26] <bluesabre> krytarik: that sounds like a good idea
[11:26] <krytarik> Ugh, hopefully no syntax errors this time..
[11:29] <flocculant> bluesabre: not long now :p
[11:29] <bluesabre> flocculant: indeed
[11:29] <bluesabre> get to try to fix some bugs this week
[11:29] <bluesabre> hopefully faster than they are reported
[11:29] <flocculant> just looked at the xfpanel switcher bugs - can't confirm ali1234's on the daily
[11:29] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:33] <flocculant> bluesabre: but can confirm it on my local install \o/
[11:35] <flocculant> locally I still have x.QA.Experimental ppa
[11:39] <ali1234> i dont understand how you can't reproduce that
[11:43] <ali1234> oh i know
[11:43] <ali1234> you have to add a launcher item to the panel first to reproduce it. i will update the bug
[11:45] <bluesabre> Just merged your fix
[11:45] <ali1234> and i just updated steps to reproduce on the bug :)
[11:46] <ali1234> i can repro it on the live image now
[11:46] <ali1234> it's just that the default layout has no launchers at all
[11:46] <ali1234> bluesabre: thanks :)
[11:47] <flocculant> ali1234: aah ok
[11:48] <flocculant> I know if you move stuff around and remove things it works fine - I guess that'llbe why it fails locally
[12:04] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r678 Set the default value for fadeout in xfce4-notifyd (LP: #176... (by Sean Davis)
[17:10] <ochosi> ali1234: that explains why i failed to reproduce it (never use launchers)
[17:11] <ali1234> it is because launchers are stored outside xfconf, in ~/.local, as .desktop files, and that directory is what the source attribute refers to
[17:11] <ali1234> or maybe its ~/.config
[17:23] <ochosi> ah right
[17:32] <flocculant> ali1234: manually created (not drag and drop ones) appear to be in .config/xfce4/panel here - I assume this doesn't affect your patch?
[17:35] <flocculant> I assume not if I read the patch right
[17:36] <ochosi> bluesabre: crap, we didn't implement any workaround in the greeter or xfdesktop for the upgrade scenario (users need to re-set the wallpaper once after doing the upgrade - maybe worth mentioning in the upgrade notes)
[17:37] <bluesabre> ochosi: hm?
[17:37] <ochosi> didn't the accountsservice location of the user wallpaper change?
[17:37] <ochosi> in bionic i mean
[17:38] <ochosi> so if you have set your user wallpaper in 16.04 and then upgrade to 18.04 it will be (i guess) initially broken
[17:38] <ochosi> https://answers.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+question/667968
[17:38] <ochosi> (although that person also claims that it doesn't work in a clean install)
[17:40] <bluesabre> I think they use the same path, just a different way to set it over dbus
[17:41] <bluesabre> It might be worthwhile to spotcheck a few upgrade tests
[17:42] <bluesabre> And yeah, if he claims to also see it on a clean install it's likely something different
[17:44] <ochosi> as to your earlier question, i guess i don't have to remind you of the UIFe
[17:44] <ochosi> and then apart from the x-d-s update that you already merged i guess there's nothing much from my side atm
[17:45] <bluesabre> ochosi: yeah, just waiting for somebody to release those updates
[17:45] <ochosi> alrighty
[17:47] <bluesabre> ochosi: which earlier question?
[18:10] <ochosi> bluesabre: ok ok, it wasn't really formulated as a question... "Please take a moment early this week to check if all of your important branch updates have been packaged up and released, let me know if we've missed anything."
[18:16] <bluesabre> gotcha... I thought that was it, but wasn't 100% :)
[18:20] <ochosi> hehe
[18:20] <ochosi> no worries
[18:56] <flocculant> ochosi: some of the fonts in xfpm appear lighter than others - implies to me they're inactive - screenshot in bug 1764165
[18:57] <flocculant> could possibly have talked about this during the cycle, but can't find any reference to it
[18:58] <flocculant> checked on daily not just here btw ;)
[19:08] <ochosi> flocculant: but that's the same for all tabs with greybird...
[19:08] <ochosi> not limited at all to xfpm
[19:09] <flocculant> oh right
[19:10] <ochosi> just check any other application and compare
[19:10] <ochosi> mousepad prefs: http://i.imgur.com/nWNrEGR.png
[19:10] <flocculant> ochosi: well desktop settings looks ok
[19:10] <flocculant> ochosi: I would expect if I started moving a slider or something that the font would look active
[19:11] <flocculant> anyway *shrug* I guess
[19:12] <ochosi> ah
[19:13] <ochosi> right
[19:13] <ochosi> now i get it
[19:13] <ochosi> sorry, i misunderstood your issue
[19:13] <ochosi> i thought you were talking about the notebook tab text
[19:13] <ochosi> of inactive tabs
[19:13] <ochosi> but you were talking about the gtkscale values
[19:13] <ochosi> those values are just hints, the rest doesn't have the disabled style
[19:13] <ochosi> that's just so that the amount of text in the tabs doesn't get too much
[19:14] <ochosi> and i think that's still a general greybird style
[19:14] <ochosi> desktop settings is still gtk2
[19:14] <ochosi> plus i don't see any scales there
[19:57] <flocculant> ochosi: okey doke - just wanted to make sure it wasn't something you'd want to deal with :)
[19:57] <flocculant> not convinced still though lol
[19:57] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-verve-plugin 1.1.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-verve-plugin-1-1-1-released-tp50903.html (by Isaac Schemm)
[19:58] <flocculant> not seen that word for a long time - and last time it was The Verve
[19:59] <krytarik> flocculant: You got the verve, duude. :P
[20:22] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-verve-plugin 2.0.0 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-verve-plugin-2-0-0-released-tp50904.html (by Isaac Schemm)
[20:26] <krytarik> And looking at the screenshot now, I guess I have to agree with you here.. >_>
[20:26] <krytarik> Looks disabled!
[20:28] <flocculant> yea
[20:29] <flocculant> night all :)
[20:29] <krytarik> Nighty. :)
[22:08] <jarnos> Can you upgrade from Xenial to Bionic before release and maybe perform some tests? I tried the ISO already using grub on existing installation..
[22:14] <jarnos> Is it so that Indicator plugin is not used anymore? I found the xfce-pulseaudio-plugin is great.
[22:17] <ochosi> indicator-sound isn't used anymore
[22:17] <ochosi> xfce4-indicator-plugin is still used
[22:23] <bluesabre> xfpanel-switch can be used to upgrade to the Xubuntu Bionic panel layout after a distro upgrade
[22:57] <GridCube> :(
[22:57] <GridCube> for some reason after today's upgrade i can no longer launch vlc or smplayer
[22:58] <GridCube> smplayer complains that it doesnt have access to libGL.so.1, even tho locate does found it, and vlc says "cannot instantiate dialogs provider"
[23:03] <TJ-> Did you restart the X server after the package upgrades?
[23:06] <GridCube> yes
[23:08] <GridCube> i just tried to install libgl1 and libgl1-mesa-glx and the first one just said "it can not be installed" the second one said that it was in it's most recent version but trying to reinstall it said, "it can not be installed, can't download"
[23:10] <TJ-> libGL is provided by the Xorg drivers for the GPU, so e.g. nvidia provides it's own. 
[23:17] <GridCube> i'm using the generic drivers
[23:18] <GridCube> the problem seems to be that libgl is not reachable right now