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[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <pereiraalex[m]> hi
[12:58] <pereiraalex[m]> can i ask, using kubuntu with kubuntu ci stable repo, its more or less like neon, right ? ( i never actually used neon )
[13:03] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: to some extent yes, but it is primariliy a development resource not intended to be used that way. for example for some release I/we are choosing to ignore that some things are broken, as the release will reach end of life soon, or there is no prospect of the broken things being shipped any more to stable releases
[13:24] <pereiraalex[m]> hum.... what do you recomend, to have a somewhat experience like neon on kubuntu ( something like testing kde beta and rc releases, not following git every day )
[13:29] <Tm_T> allright, fish doesn't work because auth backend never answers
[14:33] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: well, out latest release with backports ppa is usually quite up to date as long as backporting stuff is compatible with that release. to be very up to date you could become a tester and run the development release.
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 Qt 5.9.5 lands as soon as the button pressing works.
[14:55] <mamarley> Yay!
[14:55]  * mamarley presses button.
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/6b0CS1Ht/file_5801.mp4
 By the way: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/0.17.0-1ubuntu4
[15:43] <tsimonq2> And, all of Qt has been accepted. \o/
[16:15] <ricktimmis[m]> Cool
[16:25] <D0U91E> Cool... must be talking about 18.04 and the people who make it so great - Thanks for a truly awesome experience
[16:25] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk (@acheronuk:matrix.org):  how do i become a tester ? just running kubuntu devel release ? i was looking for using stable release but development kde software
[16:29] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: yes. may not be for you if that is what you want though. you can use the CI repo, but you must realise that it is unsupported in any way at all, and could break
[16:29] <acheronuk> for example we will soon discontinue doing builds for Artful 17.10 in there
[16:32] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: 
[16:33] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: I do want to test and help testing, was looking for using stable kubuntu base because of third party apps ( which never target development releases )
[16:33] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: but if kubuntu ci is always mantained for latest kubuntu release, it may be enough
[16:34] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: right now i am trying to test plasma on wayland
[16:35] <acheronuk> CI is usually fairly good for latest stable release as we want to use that packaging for our backports
[16:37] <pereiraalex[m]> nice ... i will continue to use that
[16:38] <pereiraalex[m]> i noticed that stable has plasma 5.12.4 release and unstable has 5.13 ... i guess when plasma 5.13 first beta, it will move to stable ci , am i correct ?
[16:38] <acheronuk> however, some things may not build. for example for things where we sync packaging with debian and minimum versions of dependencies go about what is available in stable release 
[16:38] <acheronuk> but frameworks/plasma/apps are usually fine
[16:40] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: correct. the 'stable' branch builds build from whatever is the latest stable branch in KDE git. when plasma 5.13 hits beta, they will branch new stable 5.13 branches in git for that, and sable CI builds will switch to that branch
[16:40] <acheronuk> *stable
[16:40] <pereiraalex[m]> acheronuk: thanks , i will stick with stable ci for now :)
[16:42] <acheronuk> pereiraalex[m]: the only issue with plasma may be if they bump the build requirement to Qt 5.10.x
[16:42] <acheronuk> in which case, we may need to backport that to the stable ppa if we want to keep building it
[16:43] <acheronuk> we have done such a thing before, but be warned we can put new stuff like that in there. 
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> no worries about putting new stuff
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> i previously was testing opensuse with kde git packages
[16:44] <pereiraalex[m]> i was looking for more or less the same, but not so git :P
[16:45] <acheronuk> fair enough. as long as you know things can break :)
[16:49] <pereiraalex[m]> i have been running gentoo since 2002 to 2017 with -Ofast ... didn't knew things broke 🙂( kidding .. -Ofast gives probs with some apps, always used -O3 )
[16:51] <pereiraalex[m]> talking of breaking ... on wayland moving windows to the corner of screen to switch virtual desktops kills latte dock .... gonna report issue
 yes, Plasma 5.13 already requires Qt 5.10.x
 As soon as we get 5.10 in c cycle, I'll work on backports for Bionic.
 @nggraham, not according to it's cmake :P
 its building ok with 5.9.x, though not tested how it runs!
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 Embarrassingly, https://phabricator.kde.org/T7717 is still an isssue in BIonic
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[22:34] <valorie> weird, nggraham -- where in the heck is Discover getting that icon from?
 from the AppStream metadata in the Ubuntu packaging
 it's an issue in the distro, not in Discover
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 @nggraham, where?
[22:38] <valorie> if it is in our packaging we should be able to fix/s/acheronuk
[22:38] <valorie> :-)
 nothing in our packaing to fix as far as I can see
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 dolphin's appstream file is the one provided in the KDE source, not modified or replaced by us
 I see the screenshot comes from the metadata but not where that icon comes from.
 the huh, let me dig a bit
 I think it's grabbing a default File Manager icon from somewhere.
 the desktop file says "Icon=system-file-manager"
 I don't see that line in the appdata.
 https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/amd64/dolphin/filelist
 .desktop file
 maybe falling back to that
 ew, `system-file-manager` seems like an odd choice for the icon name. I wonder if nautilus uses the name name and they're stomping on one another...
 breeze icon of that name only goes up to 64x64? gnome has larger. is that why?
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 it's also possible this was just fixed with a recent change to Discover; let me see if I can verify
 don't think so; it's an SVG
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 code is not always that bright. it's in the /64/ folder so it may be assumed that size
 depends on how it is deciding the best icon
 if that is the reason, which it might not be
 anyway. good night. 😴💤
[23:11] <valorie> sleep well, acheronuk
[23:11] <valorie> I heard early an often: computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do
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