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krytarikThen I'll go to bed now and let you plug along with the list. :)00:01
krytarikI've been awake for 24 hours now...00:01
krytarikMainly just because it's also a rather unfortunate time to get at 2 AM in the night though.. :P00:03
Wild_Mannight00:06
Bashing-omkrytarik: Thanks heaps for your guidance and hand holding - this day :)00:07
krytarikUgh, in fact it also carried over the full history of the template page though, so maybe just copy the stuff from the raw view and create a new page with it.00:07
krytarikSure, you two also do lots of things I hope I can build on. :)00:08
pleia2did you copy the IssueTemplate or use the wiki template feature?00:12
pleia2copying will bring in history, built in template feature will not00:12
pleia2Wild_Man: btw, where the wiki page says "Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue ### for the week of April 8 - 14, 2018." you want to replace ### with the issue number, some of the scripts rely upon this00:13
krytarikWild_Man: So guess the proper workflow from now is: delete the current page, visit  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523  where it then asks if you want to create a new page, and the select the page template we have from there.00:13
pleia2++00:14
krytarikpleia2: Yeah, I also just figured out how the template system works there. :P00:14
pleia2:D00:14
Wild_Manokay, thanks pleia200:15
krytarikAnd yes, indeed a missing issue number would be horrible on many ways and that too. :P00:17
krytarikEh, can't speeell anymore..00:18
krytarikWild_Man: Seriously, please recreate the page following the steps I outlined, rather than editing the current one any further.00:19
Wild_ManI just deleted it00:21
Wild_Mankrytarik, even with it delete when I click on the address and it brings it up it shows revision history for everyone all the way back to 200900:24
pleia2hold down ctrl and shift when you refresh00:25
pleia2it's just cached00:25
pleia2(it is gone)00:25
Wild_Manokay00:25
Wild_Manpleia2, what he wants to get rid of I believe is the edit history so it looks clean but I see edit history going way back, do you see the same when you click on info?00:27
krytarikI don't see an option to pull in a template on creating a new page now though - other than copy-pasting from the template yourself.. :P00:27
Wild_ManI do not either00:28
pleia2when you load up the empty page, just search for "IssueTemplate"00:28
pleia2then click on "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate"00:28
pleia2that will copy the issue template into a new, empty page00:28
pleia2you do this instead of selecting "Create new empty page"00:29
Wild_Manthanks please that worked00:29
Wild_Manpleia2,00:29
krytarikOh heh!  On the page where you are also just offered to create an empty page at the top.. >_>00:29
* pleia2 nods00:30
krytarikI never paid particular attention to the list there.. :P00:30
pleia2hehe00:30
krytarikWild_Man abandoned the page creation for now it seems.. :P00:37
Bashing-omIf nothing else I can do, going back to my regularly scheduled support :)00:38
krytarikMultitask between #ubuntu & co and lending Wild_Man a hand when he reappears, I'd think would be nice. :)00:41
Wild_ManI have it recreated I think, I have to eat real quick00:42
Bashing-omkrytarik: Wild_Man I pop back up "on demand" :P00:44
Wild_ManBashing-om, ok, you can see this right https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52300:44
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yepper .. page loaded .00:45
krytarikHeh, it doesn't actually kill the history even now though, it just refilled the page content back up.. >_>00:45
krytarikWild_Man: So sorry for trying the obvious route first, now we'll just have to live with what we got. :P00:47
Wild_Manhistory goes back to like 200900:47
Wild_Mannp00:47
Bashing-omWild_Man: History ? All I see is the template and "contents" .00:47
pleia2if the template was indeed used this time, it could be because of the deletion/recreation cycle, it just kept it :(00:47
Wild_Manwiki is a strange animal00:47
pleia2if you look at past issues, it worked fine00:48
pleia2just be sure to use the template on the first try with the next issue ;)00:48
Wild_ManI did this time I just messed up the title and had to rename it00:49
Wild_Mankrytarik, was hoping to not show that history of renaming00:50
Wild_ManBashing-om, ok00:53
Bashing-omWild_Man: loaded https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 and I do not see a history .. should I login to see an effect ?00:53
krytarikWell, apparently the shuffling of the page location wasn't logged there either.00:53
Wild_ManBashing-om, no that is fine I just wanted to make sure the page showed up00:54
krytarikBashing-om: Click on "Info" at the top.00:54
Bashing-omWild_Man: K .. back in lurk mode .00:54
Wild_Manyou will have to be logged in to see the info i think00:55
krytarikNo.00:55
krytarikI know because I'm usually never logged in and always see the history. :P00:55
Wild_ManI am always logged in so I just thought we had to be to see it00:56
krytarikHeh, "always logged in to the wiki" is not something I hear often.. :P00:57
Bashing-omsounds like Wild_Man is addicted :)00:58
krytarikAnyway, enough screwing up at the wiki for now - g'night!00:58
krytarikSounds like he is editing the wiki all the time. :D00:58
krytarikSo should have tons of experience by now! \o/00:59
Wild_ManWhat I mean is when I click on a wiki page I am logged in but I do not click on them very often01:03
Wild_Manpleia2, under in this issue, so I list just one of the topics in the general community section or all of them?01:16
Wild_Manso/do01:17
Bashing-omWild_Man: No news is good news .. any way I can help ?01:37
Wild_Mantsimonq2, you around?01:37
Wild_ManBashing-om, I am afraid for us both to be editing the wiki at the same time, I do not think it works as well as gdocs01:38
Wild_Manif you want to give it a go I will take a break that is for sure01:38
Bashing-omWild_Man: That is why I did not signin .. as had that same thought .01:39
Wild_ManI can save it and you can take over a few minutes is you want too01:39
Bashing-omWild_Man: What is it that "we" are then doing ? I am all for learning what to do .01:39
Wild_Manright now I am adding what will be in this issue, I am comparing it to older issues to get a better understanding01:40
Wild_Manonce that is done it will be pretty eassy to copy and paste01:41
Bashing-omWild_Man: Sure .. I do as I can . Not much going on in support .01:41
Wild_ManI was thinking about coping and pasting from gdocs then go back to what is in this issue01:41
Wild_ManI have saved it, look at an old news letter for reference, I click on the edit of the old one to help with syntax, like for bullets use the * but you have to indent it four spaces01:44
Wild_Manbrb01:44
Bashing-omWild_Man: You mean that we are manually c/p from https://docs.google.com/document/d/18ZbtFHQq6uMj7iuRLd11VH8V5Uc_FA0IfgiRUcbMbQk/edit to wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 ???01:46
Wild_ManBashing-om, yes but you have to use an old one and compare the two to make sure the formatting is correct for each piece you paste, I would paste a small piece then preview it and make sure is is formatted correctly01:50
Wild_ManI know moin does not like more then one person at a time editing it01:52
Bashing-omWild_Man: And again ,, I have no experience with formatting in the wiki .. will be a slow learning process :(01:53
Wild_Manme to basically, I just learn as I go01:54
Bashing-omWild_Man: Trying to signin now .. not looking good for the home team :(01:56
Bashing-omWild_Man: OK ! I am at the ubuntu wiki HOME page. what to do to load the working template ?01:58
Wild_ManBashing-om, it is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 give me a minute I am going to post the loco events I ran the script and have the results02:00
Bashing-omWild_Man: When I go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523 ; I have a blank document in my browser .02:01
Wild_ManBashing-om, try now!02:04
Bashing-omWild_Man: ack .. will advise .02:04
Wild_ManI was working on it, I think that is why02:04
Wild_ManI am doing pretty good02:04
Wild_ManBashing-om, how you doing?02:06
Bashing-omWild_Man: I am so lost ! .. I still have a blank template . Do I not need to signin and go through the ubuntu wiki HOME page ??02:07
Wild_Manno you should be able to just click the link you posted, that is what I did and it worked02:07
Wild_ManBashing-om, may clear the cache on that page by going to more actions02:08
Bashing-omWild_Man: My well being .. I have a pounding headache .. and my back hurts :(02:08
Wild_ManBashing-om, do not worry about it tonight I will continue, I am doing good at the moment02:10
Bashing-omWild_Man: After the cache clear ,,, I now have "loco events" of 18.04 .. I presune as the result of a script -- but that is all .02:12
Bashing-ompresume*02:13
Bashing-omaspirin ! will be good for the effort .02:15
Wild_Manthat is because I am working the page I think give me a minute I will save it then clear cache and try02:15
Wild_ManBashing-om, I saved it and stopped working try now please02:15
Bashing-omWild_Man: ack02:17
Wild_ManBashing-om, did not work?02:17
Wild_ManI do not understand all these shot three letters02:18
Wild_Manshot/short02:18
Bashing-omWild_Man: What I see in a screen shot : http://i.imgur.com/q6suOv6.png .02:20
Wild_ManBashing-om, that is it, you have to remember it is a work in progress02:21
Wild_ManI have added all that so far02:22
Bashing-omWild_Man: But -- you had advised you had been copying and pasteing from gdoc .. I see nothing from gdoc .02:23
Wild_ManBashing-om, no I said I was thinking about it and when you said you were going to take over I said you can copy and paste from gdoc02:24
Wild_ManI will take a break a few minutes and you can do that, look at my messages above to see how I suggested you do it02:25
Wild_ManI will be right here02:26
Bashing-omWild_Man: I give it my best.02:29
Wild_ManBashing-om, good enough02:29
Bashing-omWild_Man: Still to this time I can not login (immutable page) . click sighin and that takes me to the ubuntu wuku home page .. on this page I am lost as to how to get to the wiki we are editing .02:36
Bashing-omwiki*02:36
Wild_ManBashing-om, it should sign you in, it always directs you away from the page you were on now go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52302:41
Bashing-omWild_Man: there .02:42
Wild_ManYou will still be logged in after you click on that link02:42
Wild_Manmoin is something but it gets easier02:42
Wild_ManBashing-om, you are signed in and on that page right?02:43
Bashing-omWild_Man: Nope .. have " Immutable Page " . and if I cloik on signin takes me eventually to the ubuntu wiki HOME page . what other action than clicking signin is there ?02:44
Wild_Manit you go to the home page are you sign in02:45
Wild_Manit/when02:46
Wild_ManBashing-om, ^^02:46
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yes, ok .. so I ask again .. from the home page how to I get the wiki page we are editing ??02:46
Wild_Manleave that page open then just click on the link above to the wiki page we are working on and you should stayed signed in. You should see your name close to the top of the page that means you are signed in02:49
Bashing-omWild_Man: trying :)02:51
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yepper !  Making progress .02:52
Wild_ManBashing-om, you doing okay?03:00
Bashing-omWild_Man: Up to;; .. the LoCo News section in the wiki . Moving real slow .. not checked my work to this time .03:27
Wild_ManBashing-om, preview it and let me know03:27
Bashing-omWild_Man: Ouch ! A lot of " Edit conflict - other version:" . Not seen what I can do about it !03:37
Wild_ManBashing-om, that is why I said do one little piece at a time the check it03:37
Wild_Manbhave you saved it yet?03:38
Bashing-omWild_Man: No O have not saved it .. this is the 3rd section .03:45
Bashing-omno I have not *03:45
Wild_ManBashing-om, is it looking better? I can not see it until it is saved but if it is real bad you can cancel it before it is saved03:49
Bashing-omWild_Man: click cancel or try and see what the issue is ?03:49
Wild_ManIf you want me to look save it03:50
Wild_Manbut then it can not be canceled but I am sure we can fix it03:50
Bashing-omWild_Man: At this point I am the more comfortable to cancel .. is no big deal to redo the c/p . family dramma at this time .. lemme attend to family . canceling out.03:51
Wild_Manok thanks Bashing-om03:52
Bashing-omWild_Man: and now logged out of the wiki03:57
Wild_ManBashing-om, okay, you going to hang around?03:58
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yeah ,, back when things here settle out .04:02
Wild_ManBashing-om, I have a lot of done now04:03
Bashing-omWild_Man: You the man :) Moving right on along .. I be back at your back .04:18
Wild_ManBashing-om, I am done for the night if you are up to it will you check all the links and make sure they work04:37
Bashing-omWild_Man: That I can do :)04:38
Wild_ManBashing-om, Thanks!04:40
Bashing-omWild_Man: A quick look and looks good . checking links now .04:40
Wild_ManIt still needs a little work, what is in this issue needs to be finished but I am to tired tonight04:41
Wild_ManKrytarik the wiki is mostly done, "what is in this issue needs finished"04:44
Wild_ManInfo from askubuntu and I could not find unconfirmed bugs info, I did not try to compare previous +- bugs because the last news letter 17.10 was in dev or just released04:45
Bashing-omWild_Man: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ko/3733-ubuntu-18.04-lts-release-party-@-busan/ does not complete .04:47
Wild_ManBashing-om, can you remove and save?04:49
Wild_ManIf not just post the ones that do not work here and krytarik or I will remove them tomorrow04:50
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yeah will do  ..#2 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ko/3729-ubuntu-18.04-lts-release-party-@-seoul/ . ) does not like the @ ??04:51
Wild_ManBashing-om, without glasses I can barely see so I it needs removed please do so.04:52
Wild_ManBashing-om, I copied them right out of the terminal after running the command04:53
Wild_ManBashing-om, be my guess that some of those loco teams no longer exist04:54
Wild_ManBashing-om, the other links or working with the @ so it is not that04:59
Wild_Manor/are05:12
Bashing-omWild_Man: Is a long process to verify the links .. am up to "Ubuntu 16.04 Updates" and taking a short finger rest break .05:21
Wild_ManBashing-om, I know, there is a lot of them05:23
Wild_ManI think there will be less next time since we are doing weekly05:24
Bashing-omWild_Man: So far with 3 DNE's .. loco all .. maybe I see what is up prior to removing the loco entries .05:24
Wild_Manokay thanks05:25
Bashing-omWild_Man: Meeds to be done anyway .. just dewww eeeett .05:25
Wild_Manif I could not run a script to get them they would not be there at all05:27
Wild_Mansoooo many!05:27
Bashing-omWild_Man: That's a good idea ! back to verifying .05:33
Bashing-omlinks verified up to "Ubuntu 17.10 Updates" Break time !06:04
Wild_ManBashing-om, thanks good work!06:05
Bashing-omWild_Man: thought you had called it for this session :P06:09
Wild_ManBashing-om, I am relaxing with my wife, no more work, going to bed soon06:11
Bashing-omWild_Man: My other half has hit the sheets . I got to be up at OH dark thirty but will finish what is on the plate !06:14
Wild_ManBashing-om, thanks! do not over do it.06:20
Bashing-omFixed the 3 Korean loco links and all links are all verified ! - NEXT - ??06:53
Bashing-omCalling it a night and catching 2 Zs - will pick this back up in about 5 hours .07:25
krytarikBashing-om: Yeah, there is something funky about the '@' in the Korean LoCo's event links, nice you could figure it out too.  And I don't think we're supposed to check all the update links.. :D09:39
krytarik...Well, at least not manually anyway.09:47
krytarikHeh, looks like Wild_Man accidentally killed the template. :D09:49
krytarikReverted.09:55
krytarikOh, forgot the camelCase check..11:05
Bashing-omkrytarik: making progress ... moving on along . next for me ?12:11
krytarikMorning.  Nothing yet I guess, the wiki page is ready so far, and publishing is a bit later today.12:13
Bashing-omkrytarik: HoKay :)12:15
krytarikCould have a look at the changes I've done there though. :)12:16
krytarikBasically a bunch of formatting fixes, and then the issue summary.12:18
Bashing-omkrytarik: Got to run to towm .. a few minutes will and look soon .12:19
Bashing-omLooking now at what we have produced.12:58
Bashing-omBy Golly ! .. I think we dooodd it . I am proud for us .13:11
Wild_Manhello krytarik, it is published correct? I can put it on the forum now?15:12
krytarikNo, it's not published yet - I just dropped the 'work in progress' bit already because the wiki page is basically done.15:14
krytarikOtoh, I'm not sure why we shouldn't just start now.. :)15:15
Bashing-omkrytarik: Wild_Man Me not know much .. but looked good to me .15:16
Bashing-omWild_Man: By the way ,, I found the errors in those 3 Korea links and fixed .15:17
Wild_Mankrytarik, okay! I left this in Security Team - 12 October 2017 - https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/10/12/security-team-weekly-summary-october-12-2017 even though it is old so we could move it to the gdoc so we can find it next time, do we leave it in the wiki or paste it to gdoc then remove ti?15:17
Wild_ManBashing-om, nice! Thanks15:17
Wild_ManI assume it was not an error because of the copy and paste?15:18
Bashing-omWild_Man: No .. upstream from there .. As it is a party notice, do not know that is worth the time to find out where it breaks .15:19
krytarikWild_Man: Ugh, I didn't notice you carried those old ones over.. so please drop off the wiki, yes - not sure we want the March ones either, that is.15:20
Bashing-omkrytarik: I failed there also to note old info :(15:21
Wild_Mankrytarik, I did not carry it over they are already present so we can find the links easier next time. I just did not remove that one because it is not present in the gdoc15:22
Wild_ManBashing-om, my thought is it is on the person that maintain the link to make sure it works on there end and not ours15:23
Wild_ManA lot of notes and some links are present in the template krytarik that is why it is there15:24
Bashing-omWild_Man: Quite possiblly .. we "could" drop an email to the originator .15:24
krytarikWild_Man: Ah yeah, they seem to be in the template too - so yes, those that aren't in the Google Doc too, please copy over.15:25
Wild_ManBashing-om, do you have time to copy that link I posted above to the gdoc?15:25
Bashing-omWild_Man: I can sure make the time .. is gdoc cleared for the next issue ?15:25
Wild_ManI have to get my morning meal and take my vitamins.15:26
Wild_ManBashing-om, I do not think so I think it is left in place and we create a new one every time15:26
Bashing-omWild_Man: I can move the insight link to gdoc and make a note to leave it .15:28
Wild_ManBashing-om, there is a note in that section that says leave these links already15:32
Bashing-omWild_Man: Done .. awaiting however to set the date for the security team .15:37
Wild_Mankrytarik, I was going to move all the links to the end if the wiki last night I just got to tired by the time I got it all put there15:45
Wild_Manit is looking ggod15:45
Wild_Mangood15:45
Wild_ManBashing-om, you can leave the old dates for that link in place but you have to copy them from the wiki if the link is still in the wiki, it was October 201715:46
krytarikWild_Man: Oh btw, you did pretty good work there. :)15:47
Bashing-omWild_Man: K .. but my idea was to make it obvious there was OLD info in place .15:48
Wild_Mankrytarik, thanks! since it is a template does it still go live when it is saved or is there something else that has to be done to publish it?15:48
Wild_ManBashing-om, okay15:49
krytarikWild_Man: That is, I was impressed it was almost all done when got up and looked at it.  Oh, and wrt the 'Unconfirmed' bug stats, I just did what the comments in the template say - search for all bugs with the 'New' status.15:49
Bashing-omWild_Man: Mind ya I do not know the re-new gdocs process if ya say but the date in .. I for sure will .15:50
Wild_Mankrytarik, okay15:51
krytarikWild_Man: You seem to be confusing the template with the actual issue right now - anyway, the issue wiki page is already live of course.15:51
Wild_Mankrytarik, most of it was an way copy and paste from gdoc, I left that part to the last15:51
Wild_Mankrytarik, I do not quite understand that15:52
tsimonq2This Week in Lubuntu Development #3 is coming out as soon as I'm done with it. Can I sneak it in? ;)15:52
krytarikNope!15:52
tsimonq2:))15:52
Wild_Mankrytarik, it is published?15:52
krytarikWild_Man: Ok, well let's be even more clear and say 1.) the wiki page is already published, and just has to be linked in the various places, but 2.) it's not published to e.g. the Fridge either yet, similar to all the mail and social stuff.15:54
Wild_Mankrytarik, right I just meant I can now post it to the forum?15:55
krytarikYeah, I figure.15:55
krytarikHave got to start somewhere! :)15:56
Wild_ManI tsimonq2 is going to do the social media this time since I do not have access15:56
Wild_ManI/and15:56
tsimonq2Can y'all hold off for just like 30 minutes, unless you started the process already? ;)15:57
Wild_Mankrytarik, to be honest linking it to other places I am not sure of those places15:57
Wild_ManI can wait15:58
Wild_Mannot sure about krytarik it may be to late15:58
tsimonq2As long as you haven't done email yet, it's fine.16:00
Wild_Manno I do not think I have access to that, I my understanding you plan to do that this time16:00
krytarikWild_Man: Well, it's barely evening here too. :)  And I still have got to go out even!  Also, all the stuff generated by the publishing script, plus the wiki pages mentioned here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies - could start with that.16:01
krytarikAlso, I've just overhauled the update scripts too.. >_>16:02
Wild_Mankrytarik, I have to leave soon as well, I have a couple of appointments16:06
krytarikYes, since I'm just done with the above, I'm about to leave for a bit now too. :)16:07
Wild_Mantsimonq2, do you leave some of the letter out when you post to the forum because of the issue sometimes the posts are to long and can not be posted? I knew this could happen but I thought for the letter it was not an issue anymore16:52
Wild_Mantsimonq2, I think I figured it out16:54
tsimonq2OK16:54
tsimonq2whoops16:54
tsimonq2https://lubuntu.me/this-week-in-lubuntu-development-3/16:54
krytarikSomebody could already start over on the Google Doc with this.. :)16:57
Wild_Mantsimonq2, does not work in source mode either16:58
Wild_Mantsimonq2, suggestions? I posted to ask the admins but I am doubt they have an answer16:59
tsimonq2Wild_Man: I can take care of it if you give me a min.16:59
krytarikWild_Man: You did run the publishing script on it yet however, didn't you?16:59
Wild_Mankrytarik, yes I did17:00
krytarikAnd what error message do you get there now?17:00
Wild_Manit looks good but the forum has rules against posts that are to long17:01
Wild_Manthe script is working perfect17:01
Wild_Manforum security software is the issue17:01
krytarikI thought you'd circumvent those by being a staff member though?17:01
Wild_Manno the rules apply to me too17:02
Wild_Manthat is why we post the wireless script to pastebin most of the time17:02
Wild_ManI could leave out some links in the letter then it would probably post17:03
Wild_ManI am curious how tsimonq2 will get it done17:03
Wild_Manhe has been able to do it in the past17:03
krytarikWild_Man: You haven't dropped the Oct 2017 link from the meeting section yet though.17:04
* tsimonq2 cracks knuckles17:04
krytarikAnd like I said, I'd drop the March ones too.17:04
tsimonq2What issue is this?17:04
tsimonq2(number)17:04
krytarik52317:04
Wild_ManI thought Bashing-om did it ooops!17:05
tsimonq2kthx17:05
Wild_Mando I have time before tsimonq2 runs the script17:05
Bashing-omWild_Man: Sorry . I be a gofer, you did not direct me to take that action :)17:05
tsimonq2Wild_Man: I can rerun it.17:06
tsimonq2Do you need me to after you make an edit?17:06
tsimonq2krytarik: Pushed a helpful commit. Git pull, pl0x.17:06
Wild_Mantsimonq2, give me a minute, after I remove the links it might be small enough to go on the forum17:08
krytariktsimonq2: Hehe yeah, that's a good idea.. :D17:09
krytariktsimonq2: Also just noticed in this context, we should make the 'code' page default to the Git repos.. :)17:10
tsimonq2krytarik: code> doeeeeeeeetttttttttttt :)17:11
tsimonq2Wild_Man: OK.17:11
tsimonq2Wild_Man: Actually... wait wat O_o17:11
tsimonq2Wild_Man: Can you not, please :)17:11
Wild_Mantsimonq2, sorry I just removed the one link already.17:12
tsimonq2I haven't regenerated it yet.17:12
Wild_Mankrytarik, I did not see any links from March17:12
krytarikWild_Man: Well, it's right there..17:13
Wild_Mantsimonq2, you can regenerate it now, I just removed one link but krytarik says there are links from March he may want to remove it17:13
tsimonq2OK17:14
tsimonq2gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah17:14
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Wild_ManLike I said not eye glasses so I am having trouble seeing at the moment17:14
tsimonq2Tip : Please shorten long posts by using https://paste.ubuntu.com/ for terminal and log output and link to it in your posts.17:14
tsimonq2Ubuntu Forums17:14
Wild_ManI know but we do not do that for the letter do we?17:14
krytarik"Sorry about that, Ubuntu Forums." :D17:14
Wild_ManI know this was an issue for liz for a while17:15
krytarikWild_Man: Tbh, if you can't see the two March links right above where you just removed the Oct 2017 one, I'm fine with that too..  At least they're from this year! :P17:16
Wild_Mankrytarik, I totally did not see them17:16
krytarikAnd we didn't do any issue this year so far, soo.. :)17:17
Wild_Mantsimonq2, I know about pastebin but I did not think we do that for the letter when we post it17:19
Wild_ManI have looked for my glasses every where I can think of but they have been missing for six weeks17:20
Wild_Mankrytarik, is there a way for the scripts that we use to get all those links to confirm they are working links otherwise they do not print them?17:22
Bashing-omWild_Man: Behind the seat of the Pick-Up :)17:23
krytarikI'd just drop the 'updates' section with the billions of link and put a note there instead.17:23
Wild_ManBashing-om, LOL17:23
Wild_Mankrytarik, you mean to post it on the forum?17:24
krytarikWild_Man: Well, I was going to mention earlier, at least the ones in the 'updates' section are pulled directly from the mailing list archive pages, so they should be fine.17:25
krytarikYes, I mean to get over the security hurdle there - I mean they are a lot! :P17:25
Bashing-omWild_Man: Sitting before this diaplay, I manage nicely to see with "readers" from the Dollar Store .17:26
Wild_ManYes there is!17:26
Bashing-omdisplay*17:26
Wild_ManI bought a pair from the store here but I guess I bought the wrong ones I have to hold the laptop in a certain place to see it so it is not feasible17:27
Wild_ManBashing-om, I get free glasses from the VA so I just have to wait for my appointment17:28
krytarikWild_Man: So one could instead just link there to e.g.: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523#Updates_and_Security_for_14.04.2C_16.04.2C_and_17.10 - or even do that for the subsections.17:30
Wild_Mankrytarik, we might have to do that, tsimonq2 is working on it so we will see what he comes up with17:31
krytarikOr only do it for the normal updates, and leave the security ones there.17:34
Wild_ManI have to go I will check on the progress when I get back17:37
Bashing-omI am starting to work up sources for next week's letter .18:39
Wild_Mankrytarik, is there a way to make the link I add for to the forum go to Updates for 17.10 only and I can leave the rest of the links in ?21:51
Wild_ManWhat I tried failed21:55
Wild_ManBashing-om, you here?21:55
Bashing-omWild_Man: Here :)21:57
Wild_ManBashing-om, Rick just replied to my pm he is going to help us starting about the 1st of May21:58
Bashing-omWild_Man: Good man Rick .. Real glad he feels up to it . We need all the help we can get ,22:00
Wild_ManBashing-om, I am glad too22:00
krytarikWild_Man: Yes, like I suggested, keep the security updates as it is, but drop the direct links off all three sections for the normal updates, and replace them each with e.g.: "Please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue523#Ubuntu_14.04_Updates"22:07
Wild_Mankrytarik, I did not really want to drop all of them they help to fill out the letter even though I think they are ugly, I did drop 17.10 and added the link you suggested that was the best I could, I think it is good enough, next time I do not think it will be as long since it will only be a week worth of updates22:16
Wild_ManI have it posted to the forum22:16
Bashing-omLook'n !!22:16
Wild_ManI have to fix something to eat real quick I missed my meal22:16
Bashing-om\o/22:18
krytarikWild_Man: No, the way the scripts work anyway, is that they always pull the updates from the whole month so far - no idea if it was amended in the past issues though.  And you decided to just drop the updates on the most recent release, yes..? :D22:22
Wild_Mankrytarik, I am trying to leave as much content as possible so it will have a fuller look if I remove all the update section it is going to look bare22:31
Wild_ManI am not really happy with either option22:33
krytarikWell yeah, thinking about it this way, I guess an empty section in the middle would look a bit odd indeed. :P22:39
Wild_ManNo good option in my opinion22:41
krytarikWild_Man: So do you want to do steps 20-24 on EditingPolicies with me in the meantime then? :)  I already looked at what that really means.22:52
Wild_Mankrytarik, to do you have access to the mailing list?22:52
Wild_ManI am looking now22:53
Wild_ManI have the page open reviewing22:53
krytarikI'm not subscribed to either mailing list yet, no.22:53
krytarikBasically it refers all to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter22:53
Wild_Mankrytarik, yes I can do 20 and 21 or if you are busy I can do them all22:57
krytarikI'd like the second option. :D  I'm also taking dinner right now.22:58
Wild_Mankrytarik, okay!22:58

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