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quidnuAre there any known bugs preventing sound from working on bionic with intel-hda ?01:21
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CoJaBoIs there anyway to debug why ubuntu bionic (server) is freezing? has been stable for several weeks now, and now has frozen up twice in 2 days03:53
slidinghornCoJaBo: What exactly is "Freezing?"  03:55
CoJaBoIt just completely stops responding; no response to keypress, can't ping it, display is on but no errors were printed03:56
CoJaBoThere hadn't been any changes made in the several weeks before the first crash; nothing installed, updated, reconfigured, or rebooted at all, and the machine was mostly just sitting idle03:59
slidinghornCoJaBo: first place to look is in /var/log/  and look at the syslogs from when it crashed03:59
CoJaBoAfter that, I updated everything, rebooted, and just left it sit; it wasn't even running most of the usual stuff (sshfs/fileserver), as I hadn't started that again04:00
CoJaBoThere's nothing in /var/log/ that I can find from around the time of the crash; the last entry was several weeks prior, the one that'd been printed to console (from when I'd mounted a filesystem)04:01
slidinghornCoJaBo: that's not possible.04:01
CoJaBoThere's a few things from cron or logins or something, but they aren't errors and are also mostly hours before since the system was almost completely idle when it crashed04:02
CoJaBoslidinghorn: is there anything it's possible to determine from the system while it's still on and frozen?04:03
slidinghornCoJaBo: Doesn't sound like ssh would respond, but you can try.  I guarantee you there's something in one of the syslogs in /var/log that will give you a hint, though.  Your statement that there's nothing beyond a couple weeks ago is simply not possible.04:05
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CoJaBoslidinghorn: I had an ssh connection open (tho idle) and it timed out; I can't connect to anything on the server's IP, can't even ping it04:06
CoJaBoslidinghorn: It appears that it's just freezing and not writing anything at all to disk04:07
Bashing-omCoJaBo: Good for thought, fought that freezing up for 6 months on this system .,. installed the nvidia graphic's driver and no more freezes .04:21
CoJaBoBashing-om: is that even possible to install if the system is console-only?04:23
Bashing-omCoJaBo: My understanding is that if you do not have a graphic's card installed ya got to make up a dummy .04:24
CoJaBoIt has a gfx card installed, because the mobo doesn't have onboard one04:25
Bashing-omCoJaBo: That be good .. there is no longer a AMD proprietary driver :) Bit ya might do well to verify that the driver matches the card .04:28
CoJaBoBashing-om: Why would that help if the system isn't using the graphics card for anything but text?04:29
flocculantnacc: not sure why a wiki page I edited once is mine :D04:30
Bashing-omCoJaBo: Got me . All I can relate is the driver ( module ) can and does some crazy things .04:30
Bashing-omCoJaBo: et all .. I be late for the date for some rack time .. take care and we do this later .04:32
lotuspsychjeBashing-om: when i apt-cache search wayland, nvidia 390 driver shows up :p04:32
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Yepper . have not checked lately .. but the 390 driver in the repo may be the ;latest version still be what we want on wayland .04:34
lotuspsychjeyeah just my thought04:35
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Amd on nother sujhect ... we made it .. published ! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue52304:36
Bashing-omsubject*04:36
Bashing-omoooppps sorry for the off-topic .04:38
USERNAME000Hello,04:40
lotuspsychjewelcome04:40
USERNAME000I'm having some issues with KVM on B.B.04:40
naccflocculant: lol04:40
USERNAME000when running qemu it doesn't get kvm support04:40
naccUSERNAME000: run `kvm` ?04:41
USERNAME000qemu --enable-kvm 04:41
naccor `kvm-ok` to see if it is supported04:41
USERNAME000kvm04:41
USERNAME000qemu-system-x86_6404:41
USERNAME000Shows cannot get kernel module permissions and fails04:42
cpaelzerUSERNAME000: then /dev/kvm does not allow you04:47
cpaelzerthat should be on root:kvm04:47
cpaelzerand you should be in group kvm04:47
cpaelzerusually04:47
cpaelzercheck "id" if you are04:47
USERNAME000reinstalling now. 04:53
CoJaBoslidinghorn: Confirmed that, indeed, nothing at all whatsoever was written to the syslog at time of crash, at least that made it to disk; last entry was from a random cronjob about an hour before, in both cases04:59
USERNAME00Figured it out05:15
USERNAME00It was an issue of not adding the user to libvirt05:15
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CoJaBoI've noticed a seperate issue now, after updating everythign to latest; I get a kernel panic, "attempted to kill init" when rebooting; happens 100% of the time, at the very end of shutdown (and of course after all the logging is shut down, so I can't see the top halfd of the message)06:46
vltHello. What is the replacement for /etc/network/interfaces on 18.04?07:55
lindbergioHas anyone figured out how to disable screen orientation in Bionic? I have tried setting the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchscreen orientation-lock' key to 'true' and 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.orientation active' key to 'false'.08:02
TJ-vlt: for Desktop installs it's Network Manager; for servers it's systemd-networkd. Both are using 'netplan' (netplan.io) as a configuration file front-end08:03
vltTJ-: Thank you.08:08
TJ-netplan has a single purpose. Write config files for the network services. We create definitions in /etc/netplan/. At boot-time netplan converts that for NM or s-n and writes the appropriate config to /run/NetworkManager/ or /run/systemd/network/08:10
Tm_TI've noticed that since upgrading to 18.04 my Steam client fails to connect to servers09:56
Tm_TI did go in offline mode and installed client updates but that didn't change anything09:56
Tm_Tiptables has no blocking rules09:56
blackflowTm_T: DNS issues? Temporarily change the resolver in /etc/resolv.conf, say enter google's    nameserver 8.8.8.8    and see if that works.10:10
Tm_TI doubt but let's see10:10
Tm_Tnow I logged out and try log in again, fails10:10
Tm_TI can log in to android and website just fine10:10
Tm_Ttime to try traditional fix, reboot the whole machine10:11
blackflowTm_T: did that fix it?10:21
Tm_Tit did10:23
Tm_Tit didn't even ask me to log in, it just went in smoothly10:23
blackflowwell how about that.10:24
LaibschCan somebody help me understand what's going on in bug 991471?12:19
ubottubug 991471 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "multi-device btrfs filesystem automatically mounted once for each device" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99147112:19
LaibschIt still affects bionic and I'd like to see what I can do to get it fixed12:20
LaibschIOW, how does the automatic mounting happen?12:21
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enycLaibsch: theres some other issue such that grub config / os-prober  wan't find typical other ubuntu installs on btrfs and put them in tnhe boot-menu!14:28
sveinseHow come I can only find libportaudio2 but no libportaudio2-dev in 18.04 ?14:35
mvvvvHi ... microcode-intel is installed on my updated 18.04 beta ... but it doesn't appear in ubuntu-drivers any more ... is it the new way to handle it ?15:26
Bloviogothi15:54
naccsveinse: there is no libportaudio2-dev in ubuntu period16:02
naccsveinse: perhaps you meant portaudio19-dev ?16:02
sveinsenacc: There is a libportaudio2, so I assumed there would be a -dev version of it as well. Perhaps portaudio19-dev is the -dev package from the same source package that builds libportaudio2 ?16:04
naccsveinse: yes it is.16:36
naccsveinse: that's why i suggested it :)16:36
andreas__Hello, does someone know how to screen-capture or take regular screen shots of the gdm3 greeter prior to login? I have a few graphic glitches I want to record.16:49
lotuspsychjeandreas__: does prt scr button not work on that stage?16:50
lotuspsychjeandreas__: wich graphics card/driver are you on and logged into wayland or xorg?16:51
andreas__I'm on nouveau with an nvidia optimus card. The problem is only visible prior to login. After login to either xorg or wayland the lock screen/switch user works just fine.16:53
brainwashandreas__: I think the easiest way would be to take a picture with a smartphone or camera16:54
lotuspsychjeandreas__: hmm preboot glitches is weird.. perhaps try a !nomodeset16:54
brainwashandreas__: I would test this also https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7q78jf/psa_if_youre_using_xorg_enable_xorg_backend_on/16:59
andreas__Thanks for the advice. I'm not trying to work my way around the problem. I think I'll go with phone/camera option. As I'm just curious about why it is happening, and having an image or video to show someone more knowledgeable than me might help shed some light on the situation.17:07
brainwashandreas__: testing with gdm3 on xorg vs wayland could help with the debugging17:08
andreas__so, is gdm3 greeter using xorg or wayland? if I'm not mistaken it was wayland in 17.10. And I assumed it is back to xorg for 18.04 since that's the default now? If so, should I test with "WaylandEnable=true" in the conf file?17:14
andreas__This is the only computer I have access to at the moment. I'll do a reboot and record the problems to start with. Then I'll try enabling/disabling wayland in gdm3 and see what happens. Thanks for the help thus far. Bye!17:18
FurretUberHi, is there a way to make netconsole start VERY early at boot? Like, before everything possible?19:03
lotuspsychjeFurretUber: can this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole19:05
FurretUberAdding it to kernel command line makes it lose around 6 seconds of logs, which was enough to make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1757218 very hard to debug19:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1757218 in linux (Ubuntu) "QCA9377 isn't being recognized sometimes" [Medium,Confirmed]19:07
FurretUberI set netconsole to start on boot successfully, but it has a 6 seconds interval that caused a lot of trouble19:07
alkisgFurretUber: I haven't used it, but from what I can see, it's available even in the initramfs, so you could even set up networking in the initramfs (ip=dhcp) and put netconsole in /etc/modules and run update-initramfs19:11
alkisgThat way it should be started even before / is loaded19:11
FurretUberhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Netconsole/Early19:20
FurretUberTime to test19:20
omarvHi all, I have ubuntu 18 installed, by now have a problem starting up,, could someone help me ? thanks  a lot19:22
FurretUberI have updated the initramfs to add netconsole and it worked, I have a log with the kernel panic. Thank you, very much19:35
brainwashomarv: usually one would describe the problem, and then wait for an answer19:37
omarvIḿ not ubuntu user experimented, so I ´l try to explain: Failed to connect to lvmetad.Falling back to device scanning.19:44
omarvanyway it begins to starting up , by now stop starting resolvconf-pull-resolved.service19:46
brainwashomarv: is that a fresh installation of 18.04, or an upgrade from a previous version?19:49
omarvI installed it last week . version 18.04. It was working like a charm..until two hours ago, it crashed..19:52
omarvit is fresh installation, ..not comming from version 17.0419:53
omarvit is Linux 4.15.0-15-generic19:54
brainwashomarv: it cashed while doing what?19:58
brainwashomarv: also, was the system able to boot after all?19:58
adalbertHi, I'm reading on the net that ubuntu 18 will ship with a gnome release with a memory leak? Is that true?19:59
omarvI just made a restart the system..19:59
brainwashadalbert: glad that you've provided a link to that claim..20:00
adalbertbrainwash: just a sec ...20:00
adalberthttps://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/03/gnome-shell-has-a-memory-leak-and-it-might-not-be-fixed-for-ubuntu-18-04-lts20:01
brainwashomarv: still the same problem with slow starting services?20:01
omarvit starting the services , but suddenly stop to continue load it20:03
brainwashadalbert: the article mentions bug 167229720:03
ubottubug 1672297 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/167229720:03
brainwashso, it will be fixed20:04
adalbertbrainwash: That is good news!20:05
omarvno,..jajaj,.. because Im very impatient, and restarted the pc again...20:07
brainwashyou still haven't described how the system crashed in the first place20:08
omarvneed I to wait starting services going on..?20:08
brainwashmaybe you can change the timeout for services, so you'll have to wait less20:09
omarvreally not crashed,,I reboot the pc,,and then the problem arise..20:09
brainwashbut could it be a hardware failure?20:09
brainwashaha20:09
brainwashso, some package update could be the culprit20:10
omarvyes , it should be a hw failure,, it said PCIe Bus Error, type= physical Layer20:13
brainwashwell, not sure what can be done in this case other than replacing the faulty hardware20:14
omarvoff course, then ,..I will double check the hardware..thanks20:15
brainwashplease do20:15
omarvit is installed in a MSI GE62 Apache pro20:16
omarvmay be the GPU was overheated, and previous to that I was running tensorflow in GPU ,..I think that was happened...20:18
brainwashI would boot the ubuntu 18.04 iso, and check if live mode is working20:20
omarvHow can do that ? need I to reboot using iso image from USB memory ?20:22
brainwashyes20:22
cramhello i do upgrade xubuntu 17.10 to 18.10 and now black screen.20:23
brainwashyou mean 18.0420:23
omarvok,..I will do that..20:24
cram#ubuntu say me its because i have nividia and to come her for support.20:24
cramwhat can i do?20:24
cramyes i mean 18.0420:24
brainwashmaybe bug 175205320:27
ubottubug 1752053 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-390 fails to boot graphical display" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175205320:27
brainwashI suggest reading the comments towards the bottom of the page20:27
brainwashanother report bug 176400520:29
ubottubug 1764005 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Black-screen on boot with nvidia 390 for GTX 960M" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176400520:29
cramok but i have no console on the screen just xubuntu screen and after black screen20:30
nacccram: go to a tty (ctrl+alt+f1, f2, etc.)20:31
cramok do this and have console now but what next?20:33
crami read the bottom page but do not understand very well20:33
brainwashwhat do you not understand?20:34
crami have to install new packages for nvidia but what command line? is it apt-get isntall nvidia-driver-390?20:35
cramthere s so much things i do not understand on this page20:38
brainwashcram: why did you install/upgrade to 18.04?20:41
crambecause i think soon xubuntu 17.10 will not be maintened20:42
nacccram: ... you have 3-4 months20:43
crammaybe it was a little bit soon20:43
nacccram: and 18.04 isn't released yet20:43
cramok i have misinterpreted20:44
crambut can i undo what have be done20:44
nacccram: not really, no20:44
cramthat's bad20:45
IntelCoreahhchoo20:45
IntelCorewill 16.04 update to bionic?20:46
naccIntelCore: in about 3 months20:46
crambut it must not be too difficult to had a repo in command line?20:46
naccIntelCore: and when you ask it to, of course20:46
nacccram: ... what does that have to do with anything?20:46
nacccram: everything in 18.04 is after 17.10, so adding a repo won't do anything20:46
IntelCoreoh.. hi nacc!  Yeah that. 20:46
naccIntelCore: 16.04 -> 18.04.1 once it comes out20:47
IntelCoreotherwise clean install 18.04 now?20:47
crami think had ppa for nvidia driver20:47
naccIntelCore: otherwise what?20:47
naccIntelCore: you can `d-release-upgrade -d` to 18.0420:47
naccdo-release-upgrade, rather20:48
naccIntelCore: but it's not officially offered until 18.04.120:48
IntelCorelaunchpad showing 18.04beta20:48
naccIntelCore: well, 18.04 isn't out yet20:48
naccIntelCore: not sure what you mean by that last sentence20:48
IntelCorehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu20:48
naccIntelCore: ok, and what specific thing says "18.04beta" ?20:49
IntelCorethe frozen build20:49
naccIntelCore: i don't find the string 'frozen build' or '18.04beta' on the page20:50
naccIntelCore: what are you actually asking?20:50
IntelCorehttp://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/20:51
IntelCoreThat is there to download20:51
naccyou are better off always downloading the daily20:51
naccbeta 2 is just a point in time20:51
nacc~11 days old, so you'd need to go through all the updates if you installed that20:51
naccIntelCore: that's still not a question20:51
IntelCoreOh, well.. I want 18.04 before the approved three months20:52
IntelCorewhat is good to do?20:53
cramok will read and try to understand all this...20:53
cramtahks for the help 20:53
cramby20:53
crambye20:53
naccIntelCore: you can upgrade or fresh install20:53
tgm4883IntelCore: Then get it Next Thursday, when it's released20:54
omarvbrainwash:I was testing last time trying to start system again, and it stop starting and it said "Started Restore /etc/resolv.conf if the system crashed before thye ppp link was shut down",... What it means?20:59
brainwashI think it means that the system tries to restore a broken or invalid /etc/resolv.conf21:06
brainwashhowever, that shouldn't impact the boot process21:07
brainwashit could be the last message while the system was still booting ok21:08
brainwashideally, you should share a photo of the boot screen21:08
brainwashso that we can get a better impression of what is going on21:08
brainwashother than that, did you boot into live mode yet?21:09
IntelCoreYea, I will Thursday, on a new partition.. put 18.04, and likely back-away from 16.0421:09
omarvbrainwash:In doing USB iso image with Ubuntu 18.0422:07
xuanruiHi all23:38
xuanruiI've been experiencing very, very frequent freezes on the latest release of 18.04...23:39
xuanrui*GUI freezes I mean23:39
xuanruiHas anyone experienced a similar issue? If so has it been fixed in the daily version?23:41
xuanrui(by latest release, I mean beta2)23:41
andreas__xuanrui: I have short freezes (especially during input, i.e. mouse and keyboard events) when I'm login on a wayland session. But I believe that is due to wayland not being stable enough yet, hence the defaulting to xorg (purely speculations from my part though). I haven't tried xorg enough yet to say anything conclusive.23:47
xuanruiI'm having extremely frequent freezes, like, completely freezes the GUI and I can't move anything anymore23:48
xuanruihave to resort to power-buttoning23:48
xuanruiI was thinking probably this was not a 18.04 issue but a result of old config files or sth...23:48
andreas__It's not that bad for me. You'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable than me to reply.23:51

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