[01:44] <Trevinho> jbicha: here's https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/1
[01:44] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 1 in mutter "debian/patches: import upstream (proposed) fixes" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[02:27] <Trevinho> jbicha: I've updated the patch, also I've removed the patch numbers (thanks for the empty-line trick)
[02:30] <jbicha> I didn't mind the patch numbers. There's a gbp.conf option to not use patch numbers if we wanted to do that for the whole Debian GNOME team
[02:32] <Trevinho> jbicha: thanks
[02:32] <Trevinho> juliank: ah, what's the item to set?
[02:33] <jbicha> hmm, your changelog feels redundant
[02:33] <jbicha> theme-make-more-awesome.patch:
[02:33] <jbicha> - theme: make more awesome
[02:35] <jbicha> maybe next time we'll do better but it will work this time
[02:54] <duflu> Trevinho, you might find this fun to test. Although it will be a while before I finish it (incomplete hybrid support). https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73
[02:55] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: backends/native: CRTCs now hold references to front buffers" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[03:23] <Trevinho> duflu: pretty nice
[03:23] <duflu> Trevinho, you still in Mexico?
[03:24] <Trevinho> jbicha: mh I agree... Maybe I could have mentioned the bug title but rewording everything was annoying
[03:24] <Trevinho> duflu: guess  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oJ7YOvsj/irccloudcapture1865929949.jpg
[03:25] <duflu> You might be in a Mexican restaurant
[03:26] <Trevinho> jbicha: anyway before the dinner break I was cleaning a g-s patch, then I'll finish the g-s branch too
[03:26] <Trevinho> Trevinho: right... Well Mexican in CDMX
[03:27] <Trevinho> duflu: ^
[03:27]  * Trevinho almost never eats food that is not local... 
[03:28] <duflu> Heh. I was wondering what Ciudad meant since Odesza's last album :)
[03:28] <Trevinho> That's why I travel 😂
[03:29] <Trevinho> Otherwise I couldn't try other cultures specialities
[03:30]  * duflu gives Trevinho a soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUn64eKKQg0
[03:30]  * Trevinho listens 
[03:31] <Trevinho> duflu: ah, about the gjs patch, I've given it a look, but I've not debugged enough to be relevant to be fair...
[03:31] <Trevinho> But later if you want we can discuss more
[03:31] <duflu> Trevinho, I was about to upload just the regression fix
[03:31] <duflu> -upload +attach
[03:32] <duflu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gjs/+bug/1763878
[03:32] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1763878 in gjs (Ubuntu) "[regression] Many programs crashing at exit with assert failure: ../../../../src/cairo-hash.c:217: _cairo_hash_table_destroy: Assertion `hash_table->live_entries == 0' failed. Called from cairo_debug_reset_static_data()" [High,In progress]
[04:09] <Trevinho> duflu: what's the thing? you're not too confident with the memleak patch?
[04:24] <duflu> Trevinho, I am confident in the memleak patch. But a couple of our people argued (yesterday in this channel) against fixing it because they fear some kind of worse regression. I would like to fix the leak and doubt any regression could be as bad
[04:25] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah I read a bit of that discussion
[04:25] <duflu> I did the second patch to appease them. I don't agree with it, but am getting on with my day
[04:25] <Trevinho> to me it could not lead to regressions like that to be fair
[04:26] <duflu> Any regression is possible. But the likelihood of one as bad or worse is low. I think they gauged the severity of the leak being fixed incorrectly
[06:08] <jibel> Laney, I tried volume-key and it works
[06:23] <duflu> Morning jibel
[06:24] <duflu> and morning seb128
[06:25] <jibel> good morning duflu
[06:34] <didrocks> good morning
[06:40] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[06:45] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:49] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:08] <duflu> Hey oSoMoN
[07:09] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:14] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[07:14] <Trevinho> hey europe
[07:16] <jibel> morning Trevinho and all
[07:19] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel
[07:19] <oSoMoN> hey Trevinho, are you back on the old continent?
[07:19] <Trevinho> No, no... :)
[07:19] <didrocks> hey jibel, Trevinho
[07:19] <Trevinho> hi didrocks
[07:20] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: I was greeting europe, not that I'm in EU :-D
[07:20] <oSoMoN> heh
[07:20] <oSoMoN> still enjoying the mexican sun then?
[07:20] <oSoMoN> although that's moonlight at that time of the day I guess
[07:24] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: well yeah... although I'm in CDMX so tempereature are changing a lot.... like 28° max and 13° min
[07:25] <Trevinho> but it's really a beatiful place where to stay, unexpected.
[07:45] <seb128> hey desktopers duflu didrocks Trevinho oSoMoN jibel, how afre you today?
[07:45] <willcooke> morning
[07:46] <Trevinho> all good :), my today is still your yesterday though :-D
[07:46] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[07:46] <willcooke> seb128, you want me to send the meeting reminder? I've got the page open
[07:46] <duflu> seb128, going well. Almost 2 days in a row :)
[07:48] <didrocks> hey hey seb128
[07:48] <didrocks> and willcooke
[07:49] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[07:49] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[07:50] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:50] <seb128> willcooke, as you want, I can also do it
[07:51] <seb128> duflu, great! what did you get resolved today? ;)
[07:51] <duflu> seb128, I /didn't/ get 200+ emails. So I /did/ get back to trying to fix vaapi
[07:52] <seb128> ah, nice
[07:52] <seb128> we should lock launchpad down for new reports one day a week :p
[07:53] <oSoMoN> great idea :)
[07:53] <oSoMoN> the bugfree day
[07:54] <duflu> seb128, I call it night time and weekends. Just log off :)
[07:55] <seb128> but then next work day you spend a full morning dealing with that backlog
[07:57] <duflu> Only as much as you're willing to subscribe to bug mail
[07:57] <seb128> right, I don't
[07:58] <seb128> but I go through the list of "bugs in main most recently changed" almost daily
[08:00] <seb128> duflu, I'm nagging gst-vaapi upstream for review of your change btw
[08:01] <duflu> seb128, no hurry. It doesn't provide the visible benefit I hoped for. It does only close a bug on paper
[08:01] <seb128> duflu, basically "vaSyncSurface is just a kernel ioctl (intel's driver)..  I wonder if it is a kernel bug, rather than gstvaapi one" is their comment
[08:02] <duflu> In fact, I've now hacked up a Mesa build that eliminates all the blocking there too, and still the video stutters
[08:02] <Laney> moin
[08:04] <oSoMoN> hey laney
[08:04] <duflu> Hey Laney
[08:04] <Laney> hey oSoMoN duflu
[08:04] <Laney> what's crackin
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:09] <Laney> hey seb128
[08:09] <Laney> not that great, was up in the night with this cold /o\
[08:09] <seb128> :-(
[08:09] <seb128> take it easy/get some rest today
[08:10] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, thanks for the gtk vcs update!
[08:10] <Laney> ya
[08:10] <Laney> what about you?
[08:12] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry for not doing it before!
[08:13] <seb128> np!
[08:13] <Laney> oops I forgot to vote in the 1 candidate DPL election
[08:13] <seb128> Laney, cold is better, weather is sunny and spring like, I managed to sleep from 1am to 7am without interruption ... things are looking good so far :)
[08:14] <Laney> yeah!
[08:18] <seb128> didrocks, seems like bug #1759540 has been approved so we should be able to seed gnome-initial-setup now?
[08:18] <ubot5`> bug 1759540 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ubuntu-report: send telemetry data to ubuntu server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759540
[08:18] <seb128> willcooke, ^
[08:18] <willcooke> woot
[08:20] <didrocks> seb128: was it? Michael isn't part of the mir-team
[08:21] <didrocks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+members#active
[08:21] <didrocks> I think the initial MIR reviewer should give his ack (doko)
[08:22] <Trevinho> didrocks: any clue why this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/2/ doesn't show the diff or commits?
[08:22] <seb128> ah ok, I wonder why doko bounced to him for review
[08:22] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 2 in gnome-shell "Volume slider overdrive" (comments: 12) [Opened]
[08:22] <didrocks> seb128: only on the Golang side I think
[08:22] <didrocks> Trevinho: waow, no idea why it did it after the rebase, maybe ask Carlos?
[08:22] <Trevinho> didrocks: try to rebase and force push once you've time
[08:22] <seb128> doko, can you look again at that MIR, it's blocking a late feature that needs to land from landing/getting tested (first login wizard to enable livepatch and system metrics)
[08:23] <didrocks> Trevinho: will try
[08:56] <seb128> Trevinho, jbicha, what's the status of the gnome-shell patches & update ?
[08:56] <Trevinho> seb128: mutter should be uploaded (not sure, but merged to salsa)
[08:57] <Trevinho> seb128: g-s, I'm finishing the branch now
[09:00] <seb128> Trevinho, thx, it's not but I guess jbicha might wait to sync from Debian where he uploaded
[09:14] <Nafallo> morning o/
[09:21] <oSoMoN> hey Nafallo
[09:22] <seb128> hey Nafallo, how are you?
[09:25] <seb128> jibel, salut, on that xwayland segfault on greeter use, do you get any coredump/report in /var/crash? did you try to attach gdb to the Xwayland process from a vt (or ssh from another machine if the keybinding get stucked when the shell stops in gdb)?
[09:25] <Nafallo> seb128: been better to be honest ;-)
[09:25] <Nafallo> seb128: had a crash again, so screwed up my knee properly.
[09:25] <seb128> :-(
[09:25] <seb128> crash? with the bike?
[09:26] <jibel> seb128, I don't get any wayland crash, always gnome-shell
[09:26] <Nafallo> electrical unicycle. a defect one that doesn't like when you try and slow down.
[09:26] <Nafallo> if you go to fast, it cuts out instead of bring down the speed slowly.
[09:26] <Nafallo> I won't use that one again.
[09:27] <seb128> jibel, but that bug is gnome-shell having issues because xwayland is crashing. Can you try to attach gdb to the Xwayland process from a vt (sudo gdb -p `pidof Xwayland` then 'c' to unblock it) and trigger the bug and see what gdb tells you?
[09:27] <seb128> jibel, that might have to be done on the greeter owned Xwayland
[09:27] <seb128> Nafallo, :-(
[09:28] <seb128> technology fail
[09:28] <jibel> seb128, I'll try that but later today. It's on my main machine that I can easily reproduce
[09:31] <jibel> seb128, did you finally understand the problem with orca?
[09:33] <seb128> jibel, no, I still need to debug more, even if I start it manually it doesn't make any sound :/
[09:34] <seb128> started with debug mode it doesn't print any debug output
[09:34] <seb128> it seems to "hang"
[09:36] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, can you possibly shed some light on bug #1764161. What am I missing?
[09:36] <ubot5`> bug 1764161 in Ubuntu Translations "Translation template for ibus is missing some strings" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764161
[09:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, it's on my list yes, sorry I'm just too busy to respond to everything within the hour :/
[09:37] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, thanks.
[09:37] <seb128> jibel, did you get anywhere with ubiquity/keyboard. or did cyphermox said he would have a look?
[09:37] <seb128> GunnarHj, np
[09:37] <seb128> GunnarHj, from your comment I understand that you handled the immediate issue from updating the template on launchpad so there is no hurry, right?
[09:38] <GunnarHj> seb128: True.
[09:38] <seb128> good
[09:39] <jibel> seb128, I understand the cause of the issue but not how to make ubiquity set the right layout. in 17.10 console-setup introduced keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap which is set to 'us' and ubiquity uses this value to initialize the UI even if locale and k-c/layout are set to a non-us layout
[09:40] <jibel> cyphermox, ^ your help is welcome
[09:41] <seb128> jibel, can you write that in the bug report?
[09:43] <jibel> seb128, sure
[09:43] <seb128> jibel, 'ci
[10:31] <Trevinho> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gnome-shell/bionic-patches-picks/+merge/343423
[10:31] <seb128> Trevinho, great, thx!
[10:32] <seb128> jbicha, ^
[11:11] <seb128> night Trevinho
[11:11] <Trevinho> thanks... leaving now
[11:12] <seb128> :)
[13:03] <jdstrand> didrocks: re evince> I was going to do an upload, but it might not make it for release (depends on what the release team says)
[13:04] <didrocks> jdstrand: let's hope so, it's ready for a week and it gives a bad first impression for people trying out communitheme
[13:23] <xclaesse> Do we know why ssh-agent is broken in 18.04 ?
[13:26] <oSoMoN> xclaesse, it works here, do you have a bug report with details?
[13:28] <xclaesse> didn't report yet, but happens on both laptops I upgraded
[13:28] <xclaesse> I'll report then
[13:28]  * xclaesse never knows how to report stuff with launchpad :(
[13:29] <oSoMoN> xclaesse, run "ubuntu-bug openssh-client"
[13:29] <seb128> or gnome-keyring
[13:30] <seb128> ok, already meeting time!
[13:30] <jbicha> o/
[13:30] <kenvandine> o/
[13:31] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-04-17
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 17 13:31:04 2018 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[13:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <didrocks> hey
[13:31] <andyrock> o/
[13:31] <kenvandine> \o
[13:31] <jibel> o/
[13:32] <seb128> k, let's get started
[13:32] <seb128> #topic andyrock
[13:32] <seb128> andyrock, hey
[13:32] <andyrock> hey
[13:32] <andyrock> Completed:
[13:32] <andyrock> - LP: #1759468
[13:32] <andyrock> - LP: #1763446
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1759468 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center (11) gtk_style_context_clear_property_cache → gtk_css_widget_node_update_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_validate_internal" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759468
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1763446 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "LIvepatch says I need to sign in after completing Ubuntu Welcome" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763446
[13:32] <andyrock> On-review:
[13:32] <andyrock> - Updated fix for LP: #1761841 (need some help to sponsor it)
[13:32] <andyrock> - Fixed LP: #1757058 (merged upstream, waiting for the debdiff to be sponsored)
[13:32] <andyrock> - Updated protobuf debdiff for LP: #1735160
[13:32] <andyrock> - Proposed fix for LP: #1764474
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1761841 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Notification for livepatch are not shown." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761841
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1757058 in gnome-calendar (Ubuntu) "gnome-calendar (11) gtk_image_reset → gtk_image_clear → update_weather → g_closure_invoke → signal_emit_unlocked_R" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757058
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1735160 in py-macaroon-bakery (Ubuntu Artful) "[SRU] Please backport python3-macaroonbakery 0.0.6-1 [universe] from bionic" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735160
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1764474 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties-gtk should not store the goa account-id used for livepatch in the keyring." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764474
[13:32] <andyrock> WIP:
[13:32] <andyrock> - LP: #1764723
[13:32] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1764723 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "gnome-initial-setup says that Livepatch is "all set" even if enabling is still in progress." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764723
[13:32] <andyrock> No rls bug for me
[13:32] <andyrock> EOW
[13:33] <seb128> thx andyrock
[13:33] <seb128> #topic dgadomski
[13:33] <dgadomski> hey
[13:33] <seb128> dgadomski, hey
[13:33] <dgadomski> sadly, nothing desktop-related to share this week
[13:33] <dgadomski> eof
[13:33] <seb128> no problem, thx dgadomski
[13:34] <seb128> #topic didrocks
[13:34] <seb128> didrocks, hey
[13:34] <didrocks> Telemetry:
[13:34] <didrocks>  * MIR review for gnome-initial-setup https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1761389
[13:34] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1761389 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gnome-initial-setup" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Some changes to sysmetrics packaging after MIR review: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-report/1.0.6
[13:34] <didrocks> GNOME Shell:
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Updated and fixed https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/70. Finally merged!
[13:34] <didrocks> Communitheme:
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 70 in gnome-shell "ui: Theme lookup should respect XDG_DATA_DIRS" (comments: 11) [Merged]
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Gtk2 snap support fix https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/pull/3.
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 3 in communitheme-snap-helpers "Ensure GTK2 application are themed" (comments: 3) [Closed]
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Evince (and potentially other apparmor protected apps) fix: https://salsa.debian.org/apparmor-team/apparmor/merge_requests/5
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Snap support discussion on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-using-themes-in-other-snaps/4946. This followed up in integrating communitheme to gtk-common-themes: https://github.com/snapcrafters/gtk-common-themes/pull/3, and adding it to communitheme CI (after fighting some snapcraft bugs): https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/commit/c64a9f6d1ef3279de10dc102e9a9fddbf408363d. Basically
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> AppArmor bug (Merge request) 5 in apparmor "Support communitheme snap" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:34] <didrocks> any PR or release on communitheme will also created a corresponding gtk-common-themes snap in the same snap branch. Message on PR updated. Generated separated credentials for gtk-common-theme (separation of concerns) and updated all communitheme projects with those.
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> snapcrafters bug (Pull request) 3 in gtk-common-themes "Add communitheme" (comments: 4) [Closed]
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Fix snap CI to support out of organization branch: https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/pull/5
[13:34] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 5 in communitheme-snap-helpers "Don't fail CI when source repo isn't under ubuntu/ namespace" (comments: 1) [Closed]
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Preparing some interviews with core communitheme team (currently under publication)
[13:34] <didrocks>  * Follow up with community on the hub/twitter after blog post about snap support
[13:34] <didrocks> no rls bug for me.
[13:34] <didrocks> .
[13:35] <seb128> thx didrocks
[13:35] <seb128> #topic duflu
[13:35] <seb128> * Totem performance, back under investigation (https://trello.com/c/7zeMdP0S)
[13:35] <seb128>   - Tracked down a new gstreamer-vaapi performance bug, unique to X sessions (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795195)
[13:35] <seb128>     . Fixed; patch awaiting review. Although fixing that bug wasn't enough to solve the stuttering. It's likely a prerequisite to fix it still.
[13:35] <seb128>   - Also tracked down a strange CPU% hardware regression (https://github.com/intel/intel-vaapi-driver/
[13:35] <ubot5`> Gnome bug 795195 in gstreamer-vaapi "gst_vaapi_texture_glx_put_surface_unlocked is blocked 75-80% of the time" [Normal,New]
[13:35] <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.gnome.org bug 795195 in gstreamer-vaapi "gst_vaapi_texture_glx_put_surface_unlocked is blocked 75-80% of the time" [Normal, New] - Assigned to gstreamer-bugs
[13:35] <seb128> issues/379)
[13:35] <ubot5`> bug 795195 in Launchpad itself "Tooltip for "Unmute bug mail" says "Mute this bug..."" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795195
[13:35] <seb128> * GJS:
[13:35] <seb128>   - A large GJS crash regression occurred this week (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gjs/+bug/1763878) - HELP: Needs sponsorship.
[13:35] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1763878 in gjs (Ubuntu) "[regression] Many programs crashing at exit with assert failure: ../../../../src/cairo-hash.c:217: _cairo_hash_table_destroy: Assertion `hash_table->live_entries == 0' failed. Called from cairo_debug_reset_static_data()" [High,In progress]
[13:35] <seb128>   - Gnome Shell's big leak also has a patch awaiting sponsorship (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672297)
[13:35] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1672297 in gjs (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [Critical,In progress]
[13:35] <seb128> * Gnome Shell performance:
[13:35] <seb128>   - My big, never before seen branch: Refreshed and published it this week (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/73). It got put on hold back in February because it's Wayland-specific and not finished yet (only missing/untested hybrid support). But it is exciting because it shows Wayland performance finally meeting and overtaking Xorg.
[13:35] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 73 in mutter "WIP: backends/native: CRTCs now hold references to front buffers" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:35] <seb128> * Crashes not getting reported:
[13:35] <seb128>   - Needs some discussion: https://launchpad.net/bugs/994921
[13:35] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 994921 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/app.crash' (and even more so, 'apport-cli -c /var/crash/app.crash') should still allow manual bug filing in stable releases" [Medium,Won't fix]
[13:35] <seb128> * Libinput:
[13:36] <seb128>   - Revisited Apple Magic Trackpad support at the request of upstream (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103572)
[13:36] <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 103572 in libinput "Libinput: 1.9+: Apple Magic Trackpad stutters, is unresponsive" [Normal,Needinfo]
[13:36] <seb128> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
[13:36] <ubot5-ng> bugs.freedesktop.org bug 103572 in libinput "Libinput: 1.9+: Apple Magic Trackpad stutters, is unresponsive" [Normal, Needinfo] - Assigned to wayland-bugs
[13:36] <ubot5`> bug 82077 in GNOME media utilities "duplicate for #103572 [apport] gnome-volume-control crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_class_meta_marshal() " [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82077
[13:36] <seb128>   - Looking good again
[13:36] <seb128> (should be enough to digest it ;)
[13:36] <seb128> #topic jbicha
[13:36] <seb128> jbicha, hey
[13:36] <jbicha> • Lots of GNOME 3.28.1 uploads, gtk 3.22.30, interesting gnome-control-center cherry-pick
[13:37] <xclaesse> oSoMoN_: reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1764743
[13:37] <jbicha> • Added (or modified) AppStream metadata for several apps to ensure ubuntu-desktop can't be accidentally removed by gnome-software while running the Ubuntu session
[13:37] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1764743 in openssh (Ubuntu) "ssh asks for passphrase" [Undecided,New]
[13:37] <jbicha> • Adjusted the Amazon .desktop so that our asgen was happy enough to show it in gnome-software's Installed list
[13:37] <jbicha> • Dropped unused Python2 libraries for command-not-found and software-properties
[13:37] <jbicha> • Made software-properties run its build time tests
[13:37] <jbicha> • Filed bug 1762889 and did follow-up analysis
[13:37] <ubot5`> bug 1762889 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "dh_translations doesn't strip .desktop files when more than 1 pot target with meson" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762889
[13:37] <jbicha> • Prepared bug 1740618 and emailed ubuntu-devel. Only blocker now is Kylin.
[13:37] <ubot5`> bug 1740618 in umit (Ubuntu) "Remove gksu from Ubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1740618
[13:37] <jbicha> • Will sync mutter 3.28.1 with proposed-upstream patches later today. Reviewing gnome-shell 3.28.1 now. Thanks Trevinho for preparing the patches for bionic.
[13:37] <jbicha> • My only rls bug is bug 1761554. I talked to GNOME, didn't get much response except that I managed to help fix the bug in Fedora 28 😐 upstream suggests a problem in ibus or im-config but I don't know
[13:37] <ubot5`> bug 1761554 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] Extended characters in GNOME screen keyboard don't get entered" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761554
[13:37] <jbicha> 🏄
[13:38] <seb128> jbicha, I can try having a look/testing that OSK/IM bug, to see if I can figure out something
[13:38] <seb128> thanks jbicha
[13:38] <seb128> #topic jibel/heber
[13:38] <seb128> jibel, heber, hey
[13:38] <jibel> - Continued triaging of upgrade and installer bugs
[13:38] <jibel> - Fixed promotion of images from pending to current + testing infrastructure
[13:38] <jibel> - maintenance
[13:38] <jibel> - Milestone bugs:
[13:38] <jibel> - Bug 1741690: Seb and Laney have been working on this still but debugging is
[13:38] <ubot5`> bug 1741690 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "You can't enable the Orca screen reader until after you click "Try Ubuntu" on Ubuntu bionic" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741690
[13:38] <jibel> - still ongoing.
[13:38] <jibel> - Bug 1758647: Slow progress, need help from Foundations
[13:38] <ubot5`> bug 1758647 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758647
[13:38] <jibel> - Update and fix ubuntu system tests jobs
[13:38] <jibel> - Review and fix ubiquity jobs
[13:39] <jibel> eof
[13:39] <seb128> I'm still poking at the screenreader one
[13:39] <seb128> and I emailed foundations about the keyboard/console-setup issue
[13:39] <seb128> thx jibel!
[13:39] <seb128> #topic kenvandine
[13:39] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Got some feedback on the desktop helpers PR to LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain to get fully translated gtk dialogs, which I need to take care of.  https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/106
[13:39] <kenvandine> * XDG User Dirs fix for transltated user dirs has been merged https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Published gtk-common-themes to the edge channel in the snap store.  didrocks has added communitheme to it and setup automated builds when communitheme changes.
[13:39] <kenvandine> * Working on generating desktop-preinstalled images
[13:39] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 106 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain to load translations from multiple paths" (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:39] <kenvandine> * No assigned rls bugs
[13:39] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 12) [Closed]
[13:40] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:40] <seb128> thx kenvandine
[13:40] <seb128> #topic Laney
[13:40] <seb128> Laney, hey
[13:40] <Laney> hi
[13:40] <Laney> • release: reviewing FFes, reviewing uploads in the queue, lots
[13:40] <Laney> • fixed volume-key (that was my rls bug) after a bit of a struggle, now waiting in queue and needs the MIR approving / libblockdev-crypto2 adding to udisks / promoting
[13:40] <Laney> • had a bit of a look at ubiquity re the orca problem, shared some thoughts
[13:40] <Laney> • tried to fix some FTBFS from the rebuild test
[13:40] <Laney> • tried to update appstream-generator to the new stuff which is supposed to find more packages. needed to backport a whole stack of stuff to xenial for that... and then it crashes! worked with ximion a bit on that a bit but it's still broken
[13:40] <Laney> • new glib release
[13:40] <Laney> • some reviews / discussions on Gunnar's dh_translations patch
[13:40] <Laney> 😷
[13:41] <seb128> thanks Laney
[13:41] <seb128> #topic oSoMoN
[13:41] <seb128> oSoMoN, hey
[13:41] <oSoMoN> hi
[13:41] <oSoMoN> • firefox
[13:41] <oSoMoN>     ∘ tested https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454131, cannot reproduce
[13:41] <ubot5`> Mozilla bug 1454131 in Untriaged "[snap] No icon in Dock or Activities" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[13:41] <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.mozilla.org bug 1454131 in Untriaged "[snap] No icon in Dock or Activities" [Normal, Unconfirmed] - Assigned to nobody
[13:41] <ubot5`> Error: Launchpad bug 1454131 could not be found
[13:41] <oSoMoN> • chromium
[13:41] <oSoMoN>   ∘ filed https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=831495, it is the most reported crash in chromium on Ubuntu
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ filed and fixed bug #1763829, but there is a store issue that's preventing publication of the packages, Jamie just identified it and a fix is awaiting deployment
[13:42] <ubot5`> bug 1763829 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] chromium won't start after logging in to google account" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763829
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ testing a fix for bug #1763662 (an upstream change caused the regression and was reverted afterwards, but the 65 and 66 branches still have the faulty code and require explicitly passing a build flag)
[13:42] <ubot5`> bug 1763662 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "H264 missing from WebRTC (regression)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763662
[13:42] <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ libreoffice 6.0.3 was published to bionic
[13:42] <oSoMoN> • snaps
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ successfully tested ibus 1.5.11-1ubuntu2.1 in xenial-proposed (bug #1761585), subsequently promoted to xenial-updates, snaps will need to be rebuilt against it for the harmless denial to go away
[13:42] <ubot5`> bug 1761585 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus_bus_init does an unconditional call to chmod on $HOME/.config/ibus/bus" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761585
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ tested and reviewed again https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
[13:42] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 12) [Closed]
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ tested and reviewed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/106
[13:42] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 106 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain to load translations from multiple paths" (comments: 0) [Open]
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ continued looking into IMEs in snaps
[13:42] <oSoMoN>     ‣ successfully tested desktop-gtk2 snap (hexchat)
[13:42] <oSoMoN>     ‣ submitted https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/108 and tested with desktop-gtk2 (hexchat), desktop-gtk3 (chromium), desktop-qt5 (musescore)
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ created https://trello.com/c/iOMMKdy7/322-snap-that-provides-a-content-interface-for-chromium-ffmpeg-extras to backlog, to be worked on post 18.04
[13:42] <oSoMoN>   ∘ fixed my 0ad/trunk snap
[13:42] <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 108 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Move ibus socket path handling to the common launcher exports, so that Qt apps also pick it up." (comments: 2) [Closed]
[13:42] <oSoMoN> • other: preparing talk for UbuCon Europe, next week in Gijón (Spain)
[13:42] <oSoMoN> 🐝
[13:43] <seb128> enjoy UbuCon oSoMoN! (and good luck for the talk there!)
[13:43] <oSoMoN> thanks
[13:43] <seb128> #topic seb128
[13:43] <seb128> • got yet-another-cold and had some not-so-productive work days due to it :/
[13:43] <seb128> • looked at some outdated translations template issues in launchpad
[13:43] <seb128> • spent more time debugging orca/screen reading not working in ubiquity-dm, didn't get it to work properly yet
[13:43] <seb128> • code reviews (u-s-d monitors.xml migration from Trevinh_o, update-notifier jobs-fix from andyroc_k, dh_translations changes from Lane_y/Gunna_r)
[13:43] <seb128> • sponsoring (gtk+ segfault fix from andyroc_k)
[13:43] <seb128> • daily incoming-bugs triaging & trello reviews/updates
[13:43] <seb128> • bionic milestoned bugs
[13:43] <seb128> ∘ bug #1735929, the updated versions/fixes are in bionic now
[13:43] <ubot5`> bug 1735929 in dconf (Ubuntu Bionic) "security problems with incorrect permissions for ubuntu 17.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735929
[13:43] <seb128> ∘ bug #1726143, no change this week, we don't try to install the invalid package anymore and we are not likely to do extra work on that at this point, maybe for SRU
[13:43] <ubot5`> bug 1726143 in nautilus-share (Ubuntu Bionic) "Automatic installation of samba fails with "could not find package libpam-smbpass"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1726143
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[13:44] <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
[13:44] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.20.3, to get bug fixes available for Debian Unstable.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - dhelp, doc-rfc: Replaced use of pstotext which is unmaintained for years and broke with current Ghostscript by ps2txt which is part of Ghostscript. pstotext can now get removed from the distro. Reported this also to Debian. At least dhelp got fixed there now. The problem got discovered because the upload of Poppler triggers the autopkgtest of doc-rfc which used pstotext and this failed.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - cups-browsed: Working on a way to recover queues creted by cups-browsed when they get removed or overwritten by external processes.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Received the slots from Google for the Linux Foundation (13 from the 19 asked for). Selected the students getting into these slots. There will be 6 working for OpenPrinting.
[13:44] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[13:44] <seb128> thanks tkamppeter
[13:45] <seb128> #topic Trevinho
[13:45] <seb128> (long list coming)
[13:45] <seb128> · Nautilus recent search provider, fixed as upstream required:
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/nautilus/commits/recent-search-provider
[13:45] <seb128> · Nautilus recent manager updater, fixed as per upstream review:
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/nautilus/commits/recent-manager-update
[13:45] <seb128> · Nautilus, ported the said patches to Ubuntu, fixed others,
[13:45] <seb128>   readded missing:
[13:45] <seb128>   -
[13:45] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/recent-files-patches-update/+merge/343140
[13:45] <seb128> · mutter, reproposed some Jonas fixes updating code:
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/81
[13:45] <seb128> · mutter, selected a list of fixes to include in ubuntu and debian:
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/mutter/merge_requests/1
[13:45] <seb128> · gnome-shell, updated proposed patches:
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/3
[13:45] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 81 in mutter "Move MetaOutput::crtc field into private struct and add ref-chain" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/4
[13:45] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/8
[13:45] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 1 in mutter "debian/patches: import upstream (proposed) fixes" (comments: 4) [Merged]
[13:45] <seb128>   And merged:
[13:45] <ubot5-ng> seb128: Error: GNOME: Impossible to get infos for GNOME/gnome-shell issue (Merge request) 3: 'dict' object has no attribute 'username'
[13:45] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 4 in gnome-shell "Javascript invalid access fixes" (comments: 14) [Opened]
[13:45] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 8 in gnome-shell "Repositioned window in activities" (comments: 8) [1. Bug, Opened]
[13:46] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/7
[13:46] <seb128> · gnome-shell, fixed a texture cache crash:
[13:46] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 7 in gnome-shell "Workspace Thumbnails set proper porthole" (comments: 2) [1. Bug, Merged]
[13:46] <seb128>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/79
[13:46] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 79 in gnome-shell "St cache texture destroy fixes" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:46] <seb128> · gnome-shell, various upstream reviews (!42, !67, !77, !52, !47)
[13:46] <seb128> · gnome-shell, prepared a list of fixes to backport to ubuntu and
[13:46] <seb128>   prepared a branch with all the fixes:
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/gnome-shell/bionic-patches-picks/+merge/343423
[13:46] <seb128> · Unity, updated favorites migration script and landed:
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/migrate-gnome-desktop-files-update/+merge/343245
[13:46] <seb128> · Unity-settings-daemon: moved monitors.xml to unity-monitors.xml and
[13:46] <seb128>   added migration script.
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-settings-daemon/use-and-migrate-unity-monitors-xml/+merge/343230
[13:46] <seb128>   - Please DEVS, neeeds publishing!
[13:46] <seb128>     https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3223
[13:46] <seb128> · Theme fixes:
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/backdrop-links-opacity/+merge/342973
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/appmenu-no-icon-shadow/+merge/342972
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/builder-fixes/+merge/342964
[13:46] <seb128>   -
[13:46] <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/theme-colors-definitions/+merge/342965
[13:46] <seb128> · Bionic bugs update:
[13:46] <seb128>   - Bug #1724439, patches updated and backported to ubuntu (see above)
[13:46] <ubot5`> bug 1724439 in mutter (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_window_get_monitor() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from gjs_invoke_c_function() from function_call()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724439
[13:47] <seb128>   - Bug #1747566, patches updated and backported to ubuntu (see above)
[13:47] <ubot5`> bug 1747566 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "syslog fills with messages: Object ..., has been already finalized. Impossible to get any property from it. ... (stack trace in tweener.js)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747566
[13:47] <seb128>   - Bug #1754445, added to the bionic list, wrote patch and included
[13:47] <ubot5`> bug 1754445 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in cogl_object_unref() from iter_remove_or_steal() from g_hash_table_iter_remove() from st_texture_cache_evict_icons() from on_icon_theme_changed()" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754445
[13:47] <seb128>   - Bug #1756826, next in my list
[13:47] <ubot5`> bug 1756826 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "hangs when locate search provider matches a lot of files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756826
[13:47] <seb128> (the bot is not always making those easier to read)
[13:47] <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
[13:47] <seb128> - Discussions with design about future Snap banner format
[13:47] <seb128> - Reviewed KDE Discover snap interface support
[13:47] <seb128> - Released snapd-glib 1.39
[13:47] <seb128> - Released second iteration of gnome-initial-setup Ubuntu changes
[13:47] <seb128> - Working on third iteration of gnome-initial-setup Ubuntu changes
[13:47] <seb128> - Released GNOME Software paid snap support to bionic
[13:47] <seb128> - Gave desktop requirements for v2 API on snap store details
[13:48] <seb128> #topic http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:48] <seb128> the list is short enough this week \o/
[13:48] <kenvandine> great
[13:48] <willcooke> :)
[13:48] <seb128> the url-dispatcher is not new, I should get it out of the list, let's skip it
[13:48] <seb128> subiquity is not for us
[13:48] <seb128> nor laptop mode tools
[13:49] <seb128> well, unknown section is nothing for us in summary
[13:49] <seb128> desktop
[13:49] <seb128> bug #1762152
[13:49] <ubot5`> bug 1762152 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager is unable to connect to Wifi. Ask password and then loop forever" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762152
[13:49] <seb128> that's one report and it points to rand-mac config we have
[13:50] <jbicha> wait, that's a very strange theory in that bug
[13:50] <Laney> it's not ight
[13:50] <Laney> it probably just worked because of restarting NM
[13:50] <seb128> right
[13:50] <seb128> and it's only one report
[13:50] <seb128> I feel like it's not a release issue at this point
[13:50] <willcooke> +1
[13:50] <Laney> I think this is notfixing, it's not even clear what the problem is
[13:50] <seb128> -notfixing?
[13:50] <jbicha> yes
[13:50] <seb128> seems like agreement
[13:50] <Laney> might want to leave a quick triage comment too
[13:51] <seb128> done
[13:51] <seb128> bug #1763763
[13:51] <ubot5`> bug 1763763 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Duplicate apps in Open With Other Application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1763763
[13:52] <seb128> I'm going to have a look to that but I don't think it's a release issue
[13:52] <seb128> wdyt?
[13:52] <willcooke> I'd agree its not a release issue
[13:53] <seb128> -notfixing?
[13:53] <seb128> done that
[13:53] <willcooke> ta, jbicha feel free to work on it though I'd say
[13:53] <seb128> I said I would, I know what to do
[13:53] <seb128> but it might be a SRU
[13:54] <willcooke> ok, even better
[13:54] <seb128> bug #1577885
[13:54] <ubot5`> bug 1577885 in systemd (Ubuntu) "120sec delay during shutdown or reboot with still mounted cifs (via Wifi)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577885
[13:54] <jbicha> this one is also a bit strange because I think "Make available to other users" is the default, that's how it works here at least
[13:55] <willcooke> yeah, I foudn the same
[13:55] <jbicha> but I'm on bionic not xenial if that matters
[13:55] <willcooke> *found
[13:55] <seb128> I tagged that one because it sounded like investigating if possible
[13:55] <seb128> but at this point we are too busy and that doesn't sound like a release blocker
[13:55] <seb128> -notfixing?
[13:56] <jbicha> +1
[13:56] <willcooke> I can set up a CIFS server and test, but yeah -notfixcing
[13:56] <seb128> k, good review
[13:57] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html seems mostly on shape, some unassigned items but I'm going to deal with those
[13:57] <seb128> #topic AOB
[13:57] <seb128> other topics?
[13:59] <willcooke> nope
[13:59] <seb128> seems not? efficient one this week, thanks everyone!
[13:59] <willcooke> thanks!
[13:59] <oSoMoN> short and sweet
[13:59] <jibel> french efficiency ;)
[13:59] <willcooke> *cough*
[14:00]  * willcooke takes the hint
[14:00] <seb128> #endmeeting
[14:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr 17 14:00:01 2018 UTC.
[14:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-04-17-13.31.moin.txt
[14:00]  * didrocks doesn't know what to say more on that
[14:00] <seb128> :)
[14:00] <kenvandine> lol
[14:00] <didrocks> I'm happy the remark was logged in the minutes though :p
[14:00] <didrocks> *ackward music*
[14:00] <jbicha> is that the French elevator music again?
[14:01]  * didrocks has it in his head now :p
[14:07] <Laney> there's only one french tune worth knowing
[14:08] <cyphermox> jibel: sorry, what about the keyboard? is there a bug open?
[14:09] <seb128> cyphermox, see your emails :) bug #1758647
[14:09] <ubot5`> bug 1758647 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758647
[14:09] <didrocks> Laney: ta da da
[14:09] <Laney> :>
[14:09] <cyphermox> I'm not exactly watching email; I'm neck deep in netplan
[14:09] <Laney> oh
[14:09] <Laney> in that case...
[14:10] <Laney> cyphermox: we're waiting for you on the volume-key MIR too; the package in bionic unapproved is intended to be acceptable (i.e. it runs the tests fatally)
[14:10] <cyphermox> cool
[14:12] <seb128> cyphermox, k, well summary is that the keyboard selected is always qwerty and not changing when you pick another language on the first screen of ubiquity, that seems to be a regression following the console-setup update in 17.10 which added "keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap"
[14:13] <cyphermox> it's not
[14:13] <seb128> ah, good
[14:13] <seb128> but it's still buggy :p
[14:13] <cyphermox> that's quite possible
[14:13] <cyphermox> there are other locale-related issues
[14:13] <cyphermox> it might be that this is just another symptom
[14:13] <seb128> do you think you have slots to debug those?
[14:13] <cyphermox> afaik sil2100 and/or infinity were looking into this
[14:14] <cyphermox> I might be able to have a quick look in a few hours
[14:14] <sil2100> Let's not duplicate work on this for now
[14:15] <sil2100> There's already me and Colin debugging it
[14:15] <sil2100> (I have some leads now at least)
[14:16] <seb128> shrug
[14:17] <seb128> why are you guys never commenting on launchpad or letting others known about work you are doing?
[14:17] <seb128> could somebody re-assign bug #1758647 and add a comment stating that?
[14:17] <ubot5`> bug 1758647 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758647
[14:17] <sil2100> eh, it's not what we're working on then
[14:17] <seb128> and it's too late to not duplicate work, but yeah let's not dup more
[14:17] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1754646
[14:17] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1754646 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Bionic) "Texts in the dialogues are faulty on alternate installer" [Critical,In progress]
[14:18] <sil2100> This is the only locale thing I'm investigating, not sure if it's actually related
[14:18] <seb128> seems different
[14:18] <seb128> the other one seems rather console-setup related
[14:19] <sil2100> Right now it's more like something causing libtextwrap going highwire
[14:20] <sil2100> (since both the text and newt plugins are using textwrap which is choking on multibyte characters due to some problems in getting the right locale)
[14:20] <sil2100> Not sure if that could cause issues anywhere besides debian-installer
[14:20] <seb128> I doubt that cause that keyboard selection bug in any case
[14:21] <jibel> I tihnk it's different the keyboard bug started in 17.10; the broken dialogs in 18.04
[14:22] <cyphermox> Laney: mir approved
[14:22] <Laney> thx ♥
[14:23] <cyphermox> sil2100: seb128: console-setup and keyboard-configuration are both in the same package.
[14:23] <cyphermox> if something got borked, it's not at all unlikely it also presents as wrongly picking default kbd
[14:24] <cyphermox> admittedly, it's different if textwrap is what busted
[14:25] <seb128> k, well let's see
[14:26] <seb128> but the fact that the issue didn't start on the same cycle suggest they have not the same cause
[14:26] <seb128> jibel, did you have a chance to look at if you can get a backtrace of xwayland?
[14:27] <jibel> seb128, let me do that now
[14:28] <seb128> jibel, thx
[14:51] <cyphermox> seb128: ok, I think this is debconf breakage; I'll have a look in a bit
[14:51] <seb128> cyphermox, thx!
[14:55] <jbicha> seb128: I made some progress on the osk issues
[14:55] <jbicha> firefox doesn't like me today though
[14:56] <jbicha> https://paste.debian.net/1020754/
[15:09] <jbicha> ok, firefox was sort of my fault ( I had bad advice for dealing with the osk bug)
[15:09] <jbicha> but this osk has multiple bugs, which is part of why this will be complicated to fix :(
[15:29] <jbicha> ok, I left some comments at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109
[15:29] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened]
[15:29] <ubot5`> Error: Gnome bug 109 could not be found
[15:36] <jbicha> speaking of mozilla, mozjs52 no longer builds from source because icu was updated (newer than in Debian unstable). Would it be acceptable to build with the embedded icu instead?
[15:37] <jbicha> if we end up SRUing mozjs60 (or later) to bionic, we may be forced to use the embedded icu then anyway
[15:38] <jbicha> doko: ^ fyi, since you updated bionic's icu in November
[15:39] <jbicha> we actually build artful's mozjs52 with the embedded icu because of the problem matching the system icu with what we need for mozilla stuff
[15:44] <seb128> jbicha, k
[16:02] <jbicha> seb128: you changed your mind on the gjs upload then?
[16:03] <seb128> jbicha, I didn't make my mind yesterday, I was just pointing out that it's late for such changes
[16:04] <seb128> but the bug/duflu/trevinh_o/willcook_e managed to convince me it's probably a win deal
[16:04] <seb128> duflu and Trevinho are pretty confident it's not going to create issues and improve the situation
[16:04] <seb128> and I trust them at this point and we still have a few days to test thing and revert if needed
[16:05] <seb128> jbicha, wdyt?
[16:07] <jbicha> I don't know enough about gjs to have much of an opinion
[16:07] <seb128> let's see how it goes, hopefully it's the right move
[16:08] <jbicha> darkxst didn't like it though 🙁
[16:23] <seb128> he didn't seem to understand the issue, he was arguing it's a non issue were the bug/our users feedback show it's quite a major one
[16:23] <seb128> if he has a better suggestion or a concrete reason we shouldn't use the patch I'm open to change it
[16:24] <seb128> were->where
[16:24] <seb128> jibel, did you manage to get that stacktrace?
[16:44] <Laney> seb128: this "to be upstreamed" patch in udisks2, was it done?
[16:44] <Laney> they all looked like they could go into debian so I was going to do that
[16:48] <Laney> (I'll probably do that upload tomorrow)
[17:00] <jibel> seb128, nope. I've got the hang on resume once, but no crash and no trace
[17:08] <seb128> jibel, :/ you had gdb attached to xwayland? it didn't stop?
[17:08] <seb128> jibel, did you attach the gdm user one or the session one?
[17:10] <seb128> Laney, the srcdir one? not yet but I should do that, thanks for the reminder, I try to do it tomorrow
[18:11] <Trevinho> Morning
[18:17] <jbicha> Trevinho: your merge proposal was complicated 🙁
[18:21] <Trevinho> jbicha: I know.... Well in gitlab could be easier to see
[18:22] <jbicha> that's not the complicated part
[18:23] <Trevinho> jbicha: ah I saw part of the email
[18:23] <jbicha> it's the large number of patches and the need to skim over upstream comments and bug reports scattered across Launchpad, bugzilla and gitlab
[18:23] <Trevinho> well I'm not expecting many changes on .2/3
[18:23] <jbicha> ok, I pushed to bzr. Could you make one more change: could you separate the patches applied to git master in debian/patches/series
[18:24] <Trevinho> Yeah I wanted to do that
[18:24] <jbicha> that way it might be easier for the lucky person who gets to package newer gnome-shell releases
[18:24] <Trevinho> Plus another one is needed as per the mutter change
[18:24] <Trevinho> For us, using the sala branch over bzr would make things easier
[18:32] <jbicha> well we did that for mutter but the mutter patches weren't as many and didn't take as long to look over
[18:33] <jbicha> bzr and git weren't the problem for me at least here
[18:35] <jbicha> seb128: see bug 1759540
[18:35] <ubot5`> bug 1759540 in ubuntu-report (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ubuntu-report: send telemetry data to ubuntu server" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759540
[18:36] <jbicha> willcooke: ^
[19:10] <oSoMoN> g’night all
[19:23] <willcooke> evening
[19:24] <sarnold> willcooke: I'm used to you *leaving* at about this time, not arriving :)
[19:24] <willcooke> :)
[19:29] <seb128> jbicha, I saw, thanks
[19:58] <GunnarHj> Hi jbicha, time for a no-change rebuild of ibus? Please see the latest two comments on bug #1764161 for an explanation.
[19:58] <ubot5`> bug 1764161 in Ubuntu Translations "Translation template for ibus is missing some strings" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764161
[20:00] <seb128> GunnarHj, you never stop do you? ;)
[20:01] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'll stop at final freeze. :) But that one proved to be more urgent to deal with than I thought this morning.
[20:02] <seb128> GunnarHj, I said I would look at it
[20:02] <seb128> GunnarHj, I think it just needs to depends on dh-translations and have ",translations" added to the dh line from debian/rules
[20:04] <jbicha> GunnarHj: did you get a chance to look at bug 1761554 yet?
[20:04] <ubot5`> bug 1761554 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[bionic] Extended characters in GNOME screen keyboard don't get entered" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761554
[20:04] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, I tested with the depend, but not with ",translations". Will do. Thanks.
[20:04] <GunnarHj> B
[20:05] <GunnarHj> jbicha: No. Too much translation stuff.
[20:07] <jbicha> this is a translation stuff :)
[20:08] <jbicha> but it can be SRU'd if it doesn't get done this week
[20:10] <seb128> we are going to need to fix a lot through SRUs :/
[20:20] <GunnarHj> jbicha: I'd call it encoding. :) (May give it a try tomorrow, but I share the feeling that many SRUs will be needed.)
[20:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: ",translations" was it. :)
[20:46] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, that was dropped by happyaron in xenial without explanation, I just did an upload with it
[20:47] <seb128> and updated the bug
[20:47] <seb128> sorry you spent some hours on it, I said I would have a look but day has been busy
[20:47] <seb128> but I knew where to poke
[20:48] <GunnarHj> seb128: Oh, then my patch isn't so useful... ;)
[20:48] <seb128> GunnarHj, sorry :/
[20:48] <GunnarHj> np
[20:55] <GunnarHj> seb128: I played with cdbs instead of dh-translation with the thought that it might be possible to upstream. But maybe the delta is so big anyway so it doesn't matter much.
[21:10] <seb128> GunnarHj, yeah, it doesn't look like we are going to get ibus in sync soon
[21:17] <jbicha> if Debian didn't mind the debian/patches/ubuntu.series hack, it would be possible to sync ibus packaging
[21:18] <jbicha> the trick for dh_translations is to build-depend on gnome-pkg-tools and use --with gnome
[22:20] <GunnarHj> jbicha: For dh_translations on non-GNOME packages, build-depend on cdbs and --with translations may be more suitable.
[22:20] <GunnarHj> jbicha: I wrote a couple of comments on the screen keyboard bug.
[22:33] <jbicha> GunnarHj: no, build-depends on cdbs is unnecessary, you can build-depend on dh-translations directly
[22:34] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Yes, but not if you want to be in sync with Debian.
[22:34] <jbicha> the only reason I mentioned --with gnome is because Ubuntu's dh_gnome is modified to run dh_translations and so it is a hack if you want a package
[22:34] <jbicha> to be translatable
[22:35] <GunnarHj> I see.
[22:36] <GunnarHj> So build-dep on cdbs + --with gnome ought to be possible to get accepted in Debian then.
[22:36] <jbicha> I think it's a bit wrong for a package to use dh but depend on cdbs
[22:37] <jbicha> it confuses some tools that try to guess what Debian buildsystem is being used
[22:37] <GunnarHj> Ok, you know a lot more about the topic than me..
[22:37] <jbicha> build-dep on gnome-pkg-tools is required for --with gnome to work
[22:37] <jbicha> ignore cdbs :)
[22:38] <GunnarHj> Have already forgotten all about it.
[22:40] <jbicha> GunnarHj: are you using Xorg or Wayland?
[22:41] <jbicha> anyway if you're using Xorg, you're probably seeing https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/135
[22:41] <GunnarHj> jbicha: Right now I'm testing on 17.10 on Wayland.
[22:41] <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 135 in gnome-shell "OSK: [Xorg] Unable to type capital letters" (comments: 6) [Opened]
[22:41] <ubot5`> Error: Gnome bug 135 could not be found
[22:42] <jbicha> GNOME 3.28's on screen keyboard is completely different than what was in 3.26 (caribou isn't used any more)
[22:43] <GunnarHj> Oh. I'd better switch to bionic for further testing then.
[22:44] <jbicha> xorg has that extra bug, but there is a small proposed patch, let me try out the patch…
[22:48] <GunnarHj> jbicha: If the issue you see is 18.04 specific, can it possibly be related to the latest glibc? See bug #1754646.
[22:48] <ubot5`> bug 1754646 in Ubuntu Translations "Texts in the dialogues are faulty on alternate installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754646
[22:49] <GunnarHj> If I understand it correctly, a couple of rebuilds solve the issue with that installer.