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Wild_Mantsimonq2, I have published the letter to the forum, I did try the mailing list but it failed, I figure I do not have the proper access00:40
Wild_Manpleia2, when you have time would you please give us access to the social media and the m/l? I assume that is why the m/l with the letter was rejected00:45
krytarik(..I already have got access to the first, but I didn't want to do social media.)00:46
pleia2krytarik already has access to all the social media stuff00:46
pleia2are you subscribed to the mailing list? I don't see anything in the queue00:47
krytarikI know for a fact that Wild_Man is used to doing this for the forums, so.. :)00:47
krytarikYes, because it got rejected outright - I suspect content filter.00:48
Wild_ManI subscribed about 15 minutes ago then I sent the letter to the mailing list and it came back as rejected00:48
pleia2what email address did you send from?00:48
Wild_Manwildmanne39@ubuntu.com00:48
Wild_Manit may be an issue with that00:48
pleia2you're not a member of the mailing list00:48
Wild_ManI guess it is not showing up yet, I did not receive a reply after I signed up00:49
Wild_Manshould I have received a reply?00:49
pleia2yeah, you have confirm membership00:49
pleia2so random people can't just sign you up00:50
Wild_Manmaybe it is just taking its time then00:50
pleia2check spam filter too? it shouldn't take long00:50
Wild_Manok00:50
Wild_ManOkay I am a member now00:53
pleia2ok, try to send now00:56
Wild_Manstill rejected00:58
pleia2can you forward me the rejection notice? lyz@ubuntu.com00:59
Wild_Manyes00:59
pleia2the mailing list is configured to hold messages from members for moderation, so I'm not sure what's happening :\01:00
krytarikI already thought earlier the size or the sheer amount of links today might matter..01:01
Wild_Manthe message I doubt is helpful01:01
pleia2Wild_Man: can you forward me the entire email? not just the text, I know what the text is :)01:01
Wild_Manok01:01
Wild_Manbrb01:04
pleia2Wild_Man: sorry, not the UWN text, I'm asking for you to forward me the exact rejection notice that you got from the ubuntu news mailing list01:05
pleia2not just copying the rejection text into an email, forward the full rejection email01:05
pleia2I'm still not seeing your address as subscribed to the mailing list :\01:09
Wild_ManI just sent the full rejection there is not much there but when it came back the letter is as an attachment but that is not how I sent it01:09
Wild_Mandoes it take time for the servers to catch up?01:09
pleia2you subscribed to ubuntu-news-team, but not ubuntu-news01:09
Wild_Manokay01:10
krytarik..Funny, at logging in to the Fridge's WP, I can't continue if the ubuntu-fridge team membership box isn't ticked - but it won't give me any access other than to my profile settings then anyway. :P01:10
pleia2Wild_Man: so you need to subscribe to ubuntu-news and then I can click the box to let your messages through automatically01:10
pleia2I can't do this until you subscribe though01:10
Wild_Mandoing now01:10
pleia2krytarik: are you able to update social media? or share whatever is needed with others?01:11
pleia2I need to step out to run some errands before everything closes ;)01:12
krytarikTbh, I didn't think of the latter option yet.. :P01:13
krytarikAnd yes, goo!01:13
Wild_ManI am signed up!01:15
pleia2still not showing up :( https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news this one?01:16
pleia2you're definitely on ubuntu-news-team, but that's just for discussion, ubuntu-news is the one you need to be on in order to send/receive the newsletter itself01:17
Wild_Manpleia2, yes I signed yp but it may take a minute to show up, do what you need to and it will be here when you get back01:17
pleia2ah, you signed up with your gmail account01:18
pleia2you need to sign up with the ubuntu.com address if that's the one you want to send the newsletter from01:18
Wild_Manon my end it shows with the ubuntu one01:18
Wild_Manit does not matter01:18
pleia2ubuntu-news-team has the ubuntu address, ubuntu-news has the gmail account01:18
pleia2you want to send the newsletter from your gmail account?01:19
Wild_ManI sent them from both from thunderbird with the same settings01:19
Wild_Manyes that is okay01:19
pleia2I don't love it, but if you must01:19
Wild_ManI do not know why it did that but I do not have tome to figure it out this second01:20
Wild_ManI will work on it01:20
pleia2your gmail account can send to the list now01:20
Wild_ManThanks01:21
pleia2any luck?01:23
pleia2ok, I actually do need to go out now ;) I'll check back upon my return if you're still having trouble with anything01:24
Wild_Manit has not been rejected yet01:25
krytarikFwiw, I can't seem to log in to Facebook at all due to what seems to be an issue with it and Firefox currently - keeps on saying 'cookies required'...01:30
tsimonq2krytarik: Give it what it wants!01:30
tsimonq2Cookies are good.01:30
tsimonq2Especially chocolate chip.01:31
tsimonq2:P01:31
krytarikWell, they are enabled though.. :P01:31
Bashing-omUuummmmm Chocolate Chip Cookies :D01:31
Unit193Oatmeal Raisin*01:31
tsimonq2Sugar cookies?01:32
Wild_Mantsimonq2, we have made progress with posting to the forum and I think the mailing list went through this time01:33
tsimonq2ok01:37
Wild_Manif you want me to do twitter in the future since krytarik does not have a twitter account let me know and we can set it up\01:38
tsimonq2krytarik has the ability to do Twitter.01:39
Wild_Manok01:40
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pleia2Wild_Man: you can always check the mailing list archives to check if it's been posted :) it has https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/01:54
Wild_Manpleia2, thanks01:55
krytarikNobody has thought of or decided for 'claiming' the custom URL on Google+ yet..? :P02:02
pleia2you can't until you have a certain number of followers02:03
pleia2but look at that, we do now!02:03
krytarikYes!02:03
pleia2done :)02:03
krytarikAnd here I thought 178 was little.. :P02:03
pleia2https://plus.google.com/+UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter02:04
krytarikYeep! \o/02:04
pleia2could be they loosened the restrictions on it, when I claimed +Xubuntu we for sure had over 100002:04
krytarikOh yeah, that could be too.02:04
Wild_Manpleia2, do I have to join this list to send them email loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com02:09
pleia2yes02:09
Wild_Manthanks02:09
pleia2if you don't want to receive emails from the list, there's a setting for that after you subscribe02:10
Wild_Manok02:10
Wild_Manpleia2, is this the one I need https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts02:14
pleia2yes02:14
Wild_Manthanks02:14
krytarikGoogle+ certainly does an amount of caching there too.. :P02:16
pleia2Google+ is terrible02:16
tsimonq2Ditto.02:17
krytarikAnd while Wild_Man is gonna do Twitter after the mailing list, I still can't do Facebook nor the Fridge of course.02:20
* tsimonq2 punts to pleia2 02:20
tsimonq2I hate Facebook. :P02:20
tsimonq2I can do the Fridge.02:21
pleia2krytarik: would you like me to do facebook?02:21
krytarikpleia2: Well yes, since it doesn't appear to work with Firefox currently, and I can't technically use Chrome/ium either. :P02:22
pleia2ok, done02:23
krytarikBtw, since I'm just looking at the Fridge's front page again - was it used to be all monospace for the forwarded release announcements and such?02:24
pleia2no, I think guiverc uses the WYSIWYG editor to paste in the announcements from the mailing lists, so they don't have the native formatting that old posts have02:25
guivercfrom lists.ubuntu & yeah I don't worry much about formatting02:28
Wild_Manpleia2, I posted to twitter, I think the format is right02:35
Wild_ManAll M/L are done02:38
guivercis there a wiki on formatting for fridge that anyone knows?  or is it markdown/wiki-like?02:41
Bashing-omWild_Man: Publishing complete ?02:41
Wild_ManI think so02:41
Bashing-omThen we can all get a good nights sleep :P02:42
Wild_ManI am going to relax, I have not even turned the tv on today02:42
krytarikI haven't watched TV for like 4 days now - but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss much either.. :P02:43
pleia2guiverc: it's HTML02:43
Bashing-omSomebody break out the champaign ( Chocolate Chip Cookies goes well ) :P02:44
pleia2congrats everyone :)02:45
Wild_Manwhen I sent out the emails for the summary writers there was an email in there that said something like reply to this email address if you need to contact us, is it possible some writers have been replying to that address and no one has looked?02:45
Wild_Man\o/02:46
Wild_ManBashing-om, to put the stuff from gdoc into the wiki you just need to copy and paste it into the proper section and it should be formatted correctly02:48
Wild_Manpleia2, when do we start a new gdoc?02:49
pleia2you just delete the stuff from the existing gdoc and start over02:49
pleia2don't delete the headings ;) just the articles02:49
Wild_Manokay that is what I wonder as well, I for sure was going to leave the headings or I would be lost02:50
pleia2Wild_Man: the ubuntu news gmail account?02:50
pleia2I don't remember what email address is referenced in the email02:50
Bashing-omWild_Man: copy paste for the most part . only bit of formnatting I recall is the summary heading inclosed between 3 dashes. na ofcourse spacing between entries .02:51
Wild_Manpleia2, says editors email account02:52
pleia2I'll look at the doc02:52
Wild_Manit is the one with the summary writers email addresses02:53
pleia2ah, editor.ubuntu.news@ubuntu.com02:53
pleia2no one has emailed that account, I do check it02:53
Wild_Manokay thanks, I had three yeses and one new person is going to start the first of next month02:54
pleia2that's good to hear :)02:54
Wild_Manindeed!02:54
Bashing-omWild_Man: What browser are you running ?? I am presently using chromium and had to install 2 plugins for c/p to gdoc .02:54
Wild_ManI am using FF02:54
pleia2I'm using Chrome and never had a problem c/p to/from gdocs02:55
Wild_Manyou copy and paste the heading and all the contest under that heading and it should be formatted perfectly02:55
Wild_Manit was all the other stuff that took me a while last night02:55
Bashing-ompleia2: After I got the plugins installed both gdoc and chromiun were happy to cooperate .02:55
Wild_ManI need to take some meds02:56
pleia2Wild_Man: sometimes that's how I feel after publishing UWN too ;)02:57
krytarikWild_Man: Speaking of all the other stuff, please "git pull" again on the script repo.02:57
Wild_Manok02:57
krytarik..Pahaha. :D02:58
Wild_Mankrytarik, we did not miss publishing anywhere did we?03:02
Wild_Manhappy days, I just received another reply yes from a summary writer03:05
krytarikWild_Man: tsimonq2 is gonna do the Fridge he said, but otherwise nah.03:09
Wild_ManThat is what I thought but I wanted to make sure there is a lot of details to check when publishing as I learned today03:10
krytarikWhich fwiw, is the source I personally get the UWN from.. :P03:10
krytarikWell, at least you subscribed to all the mailing lists today..  And I didn't have to yet! \o/03:11
krytarikSo next time it'll be much less time-consuming.03:12
Wild_Manvery true03:12
tsimonq2krytarik: Wanna take Fridge?03:12
krytariktsimonq2: ...Unless you magically made my account there anything more than dumb, I can't still. :P03:14
tsimonq2krytarik: Have you cleared your cache?03:15
krytarikWell, it was like this right from the start - and as I noticed just earlier, one can't even log in without being in and ticking the appropriate team.03:16
krytarikTo be clear, I can log in but I only get the profile settings then.03:19
krytarik(And yes, I just also cleared the cache.)03:20
guiverckrytarik: i have to add a /wpmin something to get more options (note: i'm no expert - i just follow notes)03:20
krytarikYes, of course one has to append "wp-admin/" to get there in the first place.03:21
krytarikI'm currently looking at the dashboard, that is. :)03:22
pleia2krytarik: did you submit a ticket?03:33
krytarikNot in the last 1.5 days yet, no.03:33
pleia2ok03:34
krytarikI seem to have been busy enough as is already. :P03:34
pleia2no worries, just wanted to make sure you weren't stuck or anything03:34
tsimonq2pleia2: Could I please get a peer review? http://ubuntu-news.org/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/03:35
tsimonq2I haven't done this in months, ya know. ;)03:35
pleia2hehe03:36
* pleia2 has a look03:36
pleia2ltgm, all links check out03:37
tsimonq2\o/03:37
Wild_Mansounds like we passed?03:38
tsimonq2Looks like it. :)03:38
pleia2yes, gold stars all around!03:38
Wild_Man:)03:38
Bashing-om:)03:40
krytarikpleia2: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=28954 - this is the one about the previous occasion I mentioned btw.03:51
pleia2interesting, 2016 is after they revoked our access and told us they wouldn't give it back x_x03:55
krytarikYes, that's what I was particularly thinking of here.03:56
pleia2but now that I look at it, we do have admin on xubuntu.org03:58
pleia2curious03:58
krytarikYes. :D03:59
Bashing-ompleia2: krytarik :; Sharpening our tools are we ?04:02
krytarikMore like looking for the lost marbles..04:03
Bashing-omLOL ...04:04
Bashing-omI jave little marbles to loose .. so I sure got to find some .04:05
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tsimonq2I *suck* at this.04:05
tsimonq2Argh.04:05
tsimonq2Bear with me, lol.04:05
Wild_Mantakes practice04:05
Wild_ManI do not use op's often04:05
pleia2tsimonq2: pro tip: use the chanserv topic command and then no one knows who is doing it, or messing up ;)04:06
=== tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-news to: The Ubuntu News Channel - You report it, we publish it! Serving the Fridge, Ubuntu Weekly News, and other fine publications. | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam | Current UWN Prep: http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
tsimonq2That double space has been annoying me. :P04:06
pleia2lol04:06
tsimonq2pleia2: chanserv> But that's no fun. :P04:06
tsimonq2Also, first topic update in 3.5 years \o/04:07
* Bashing-om likey \o/04:08
krytarikYou just wanted to have your name on it! :(04:08
tsimonq2krytarik: No, I just despise double spaces.04:08
tsimonq2And, the lack of Oxford commas.04:08
tsimonq2::P04:08
tsimonq2*:P04:08
krytarikYeah, true me too, and I know another one too. :P04:09
tsimonq2Although, I know how much pleia2 *loves* the Oxford comma. ;)04:09
pleia2they should only be used when necessary for clarity :P04:10
krytarikYes!  Same! \o/04:10
tsimonq2No, they should be used *always*. :P04:10
Bashing-omand the krytarik periods :)04:10
krytarikYou mean more like spurious spaces.. :P04:11
tsimonq2Oh, and ".." instead of "..."04:11
tsimonq2>_>04:11
krytarikYes, I variate there!04:12
tsimonq2(Only in #ubuntu-news do we argume about grammar. :P)04:14
tsimonq2*argue04:14
pleia2hehe04:15
Bashing-omAnd style, content, and, presentation :)04:16
krytarikPeriod!04:16
Bashing-omLOL04:16
tsimonq2That extra comma...04:19
tsimonq2:P04:19
krytarikYes.. :(04:19
Bashing-omLate for the date for some rack time .. we do this more tomorrow :)04:44
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krytarikCool, managed to log in to Facebook now - somehow..13:30
krytarikSo, given what we now know about the admin on Canonical-hosted WordPress thing, it just occurred to me that it might yield a better outcome if, rather than having them fix the role level (to anything other than blank options) for a single team member (me), we request the role level be raised to admin for everybody on the ubuntu-fridge team. :)18:42
Wild_Mankrytarik, howefield fixed it where the whole news letter can be posted on the forum, so I added the updates for 17.1021:11
krytarikOh cool - I shouldn't ask what did it.. :P21:14
Wild_Manpleia2, tsimonq2 I received two emails today one of them with profanity in it about wanting to be removed from the newsletter mailing list, I figure I should reply with the message go to the mailing list page and include the link to unsubscribe but I just want to make sure that is the protocol?21:18
Wild_Mankrytarik, he has not told me yet, he fixed it and went off line but no I would not post it here in the open channel anyway21:19
tsimonq2Wild_Man: Please forward me the email, and I can take care of it.21:19
pleia2Wild_Man: PM me their email addresses and I'll remove them, you can reply by saying something like "In the future, be aware that you can unsubscribe yourself by going logging in to the mailing list page"21:19
tsimonq2Er21:19
* tsimonq2 tags pleia2 21:19
tsimonq2pleia2: Thanks. :)21:20
pleia2no sense in making them jump through hoops to unsubscribe if they're already unhappy21:20
krytarikWild_Man: I mean that's probably technicalities I wouldn't be particularly interested in knowing. :P21:20
Wild_Mantrue21:20
Wild_ManI am going to see if I can find some links, I have been at the VA almost all day21:21
Wild_ManI did clear out the gdoc last night so it is ready21:21
Wild_ManI also need to pm Rick with links to this channel and the wiki page before I forget21:22
Wild_Mankrytarik, has bashing-om been here today?21:41
krytarikNot yet.21:42
Wild_Manok21:42
Wild_Manwill pleia2 and thanks tsimonq222:23
Wild_Mankrytarik, are you thinking about trying to make a script to pull from the hub? or does that fall into the same category as the forum?22:41
krytarikWell, I already gave a statement about this some days ago - please see the public logs of this channel.22:44
Wild_Manok22:47
Wild_Mantsimonq2, what exactly is the purpose of this page http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/22:48
tsimonq2Wild_Man: What about it?22:49
krytarikI'm just writing a script however, that creates the 'in this issue' list automatically. :P22:49
Wild_Manwhat is its purpose since it is just a short version of the letter, I am just wondering why have it at all?22:51
Wild_Mankrytarik, that is awesome!22:51
pleia2Wild_Man: the fridge is the community news blog, some people subscribe to it to get news, including UWN22:52
pleia2this is also how the newsletter gets to planet.ubuntu.com22:52
pleia2so just like we post it to the mailing list, forums, social media... fridge is just another place where people get to see it22:53
Wild_Manpleia2, so the planet gets the shortened version with the link to see the full version?22:54
pleia2yes22:54
pleia2the full version is too long for a blog :)22:54
Wild_ManThanks for clearing that up22:55
Wild_Manhello Bashing-om22:57
Wild_Mankrytarik, for most sections we really only need about 3 stories correct?22:59
Wild_ManI added 3 to the planet section22:59
krytarikWell, I'd say no more than 5 or such.22:59
Bashing-omWild_Man: Here we go again .. I see the gdoc has begun for next issue :)22:59
Wild_Manokay we are thnking along the same lines23:00
krytarikDepends on what you find the week, of course.23:00
Wild_Manof course23:00
Wild_ManBashing-om, I cleared it out last night so it would be easy to start today23:00
Bashing-omWild_Man: Gonna add 2 links to general ..23:01
Wild_Mangood deal Bashing-om, howefield fixed the forum issue for us so now the whole news letter is on the forum23:02
Bashing-omWild_Man: Hreat news about the forum .. lemme check the rss feed .. see what I can find for gdoc .23:03
Bashing-omGreat*23:04
Wild_Manwhat other sources can we use under canonical it says most come from insights.ubuntu.com so that implies we may get some from other sources?23:12
Bashing-omWild_Man: This one: http://www.roaksoax.com/2018/04/maas-2-4-0-beta-2-released . Put it under conical or cloud or blog ???23:19
wildmanne39never mind about the question above I found the answer23:23
Bashing-omwildmanne39: Ehat are your thouhgts on MAAS . The AP is cloud directed .. and Cononical is the driver but the source is from a blog .23:26
Bashing-omWhat*23:26
wildmanne39It could go under cloud, we have three other ones in the Planet already Bashing-om23:27
wildmanne39it may be a question to asked the experienced people on there thoughts, either way is okay with me23:28
wildmanne39I am going to log out and see if I can get back on now as Wild Man23:29
Bashing-omWild_Man: Yepper I too think cloud for MAAS :)23:33
Wild_ManBashing-om, it is more appropriate23:34
Bashing-omWild_Man: Nope, no can do ,, as the source is a blog .. and no blogs in the Cloud and no summaries . .. I Put the MAAS source in the blog section .23:37
Wild_ManBashing-om, any idea how to undo an edit we were working in the same section and it blew up23:43
Wild_ManBashing-om, never mind I found the undo button and fixed it23:43
Wild_ManBashing-om, if it can not go in the cloud then it is more appropriate in the Planet section where I found it23:43
Wild_ManBashing-om, I guess this falls out side of what we should publish but it is interesting https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/microsoft-linux-custom-kernel-azure-sphere?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%2923:44
Wild_Manbiab I need to do a few things23:47
Bashing-omWild_Man: Lemme sign oot of gdoc .. and back in .. see what the state is ..  as to kernel-azure . I was going to look at that one in length and then see if we could make it relevant .23:48
Bashing-omWild_Man: gdoc looks all right to me at this time .23:51
Wild_ManI fixed Bashing-om23:52
Bashing-omWild_Man: K .. ack to "looking for sources"23:54
Bashing-omback*23:55
Wild_Maneating Bashing-om23:58

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