[00:40] <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, I have published the letter to the forum, I did try the mailing list but it failed, I figure I do not have the proper access
[00:45] <Wild_Man> pleia2, when you have time would you please give us access to the social media and the m/l? I assume that is why the m/l with the letter was rejected
[00:46] <krytarik> (..I already have got access to the first, but I didn't want to do social media.)
[00:46] <pleia2> krytarik already has access to all the social media stuff
[00:47] <pleia2> are you subscribed to the mailing list? I don't see anything in the queue
[00:47] <krytarik> I know for a fact that Wild_Man is used to doing this for the forums, so.. :)
[00:48] <krytarik> Yes, because it got rejected outright - I suspect content filter.
[00:48] <Wild_Man> I subscribed about 15 minutes ago then I sent the letter to the mailing list and it came back as rejected
[00:48] <pleia2> what email address did you send from?
[00:48] <Wild_Man> wildmanne39@ubuntu.com
[00:48] <Wild_Man> it may be an issue with that
[00:48] <pleia2> you're not a member of the mailing list
[00:49] <Wild_Man> I guess it is not showing up yet, I did not receive a reply after I signed up
[00:49] <Wild_Man> should I have received a reply?
[00:49] <pleia2> yeah, you have confirm membership
[00:50] <pleia2> so random people can't just sign you up
[00:50] <Wild_Man> maybe it is just taking its time then
[00:50] <pleia2> check spam filter too? it shouldn't take long
[00:50] <Wild_Man> ok
[00:53] <Wild_Man> Okay I am a member now
[00:56] <pleia2> ok, try to send now
[00:58] <Wild_Man> still rejected
[00:59] <pleia2> can you forward me the rejection notice? lyz@ubuntu.com
[00:59] <Wild_Man> yes
[01:00] <pleia2> the mailing list is configured to hold messages from members for moderation, so I'm not sure what's happening :\
[01:01] <krytarik> I already thought earlier the size or the sheer amount of links today might matter..
[01:01] <Wild_Man> the message I doubt is helpful
[01:01] <pleia2> Wild_Man: can you forward me the entire email? not just the text, I know what the text is :)
[01:01] <Wild_Man> ok
[01:04] <Wild_Man> brb
[01:05] <pleia2> Wild_Man: sorry, not the UWN text, I'm asking for you to forward me the exact rejection notice that you got from the ubuntu news mailing list
[01:05] <pleia2> not just copying the rejection text into an email, forward the full rejection email
[01:09] <pleia2> I'm still not seeing your address as subscribed to the mailing list :\
[01:09] <Wild_Man> I just sent the full rejection there is not much there but when it came back the letter is as an attachment but that is not how I sent it
[01:09] <Wild_Man> does it take time for the servers to catch up?
[01:09] <pleia2> you subscribed to ubuntu-news-team, but not ubuntu-news
[01:10] <Wild_Man> okay
[01:10] <krytarik> ..Funny, at logging in to the Fridge's WP, I can't continue if the ubuntu-fridge team membership box isn't ticked - but it won't give me any access other than to my profile settings then anyway. :P
[01:10] <pleia2> Wild_Man: so you need to subscribe to ubuntu-news and then I can click the box to let your messages through automatically
[01:10] <pleia2> I can't do this until you subscribe though
[01:10] <Wild_Man> doing now
[01:11] <pleia2> krytarik: are you able to update social media? or share whatever is needed with others?
[01:12] <pleia2> I need to step out to run some errands before everything closes ;)
[01:13] <krytarik> Tbh, I didn't think of the latter option yet.. :P
[01:13] <krytarik> And yes, goo!
[01:15] <Wild_Man> I am signed up!
[01:16] <pleia2> still not showing up :( https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news this one?
[01:17] <pleia2> you're definitely on ubuntu-news-team, but that's just for discussion, ubuntu-news is the one you need to be on in order to send/receive the newsletter itself
[01:17] <Wild_Man> pleia2, yes I signed yp but it may take a minute to show up, do what you need to and it will be here when you get back
[01:18] <pleia2> ah, you signed up with your gmail account
[01:18] <pleia2> you need to sign up with the ubuntu.com address if that's the one you want to send the newsletter from
[01:18] <Wild_Man> on my end it shows with the ubuntu one
[01:18] <Wild_Man> it does not matter
[01:18] <pleia2> ubuntu-news-team has the ubuntu address, ubuntu-news has the gmail account
[01:19] <pleia2> you want to send the newsletter from your gmail account?
[01:19] <Wild_Man> I sent them from both from thunderbird with the same settings
[01:19] <Wild_Man> yes that is okay
[01:19] <pleia2> I don't love it, but if you must
[01:20] <Wild_Man> I do not know why it did that but I do not have tome to figure it out this second
[01:20] <Wild_Man> I will work on it
[01:20] <pleia2> your gmail account can send to the list now
[01:21] <Wild_Man> Thanks
[01:23] <pleia2> any luck?
[01:24] <pleia2> ok, I actually do need to go out now ;) I'll check back upon my return if you're still having trouble with anything
[01:25] <Wild_Man> it has not been rejected yet
[01:30] <krytarik> Fwiw, I can't seem to log in to Facebook at all due to what seems to be an issue with it and Firefox currently - keeps on saying 'cookies required'...
[01:30] <tsimonq2> krytarik: Give it what it wants!
[01:30] <tsimonq2> Cookies are good.
[01:31] <tsimonq2> Especially chocolate chip.
[01:31] <tsimonq2> :P
[01:31] <krytarik> Well, they are enabled though.. :P
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Uuummmmm Chocolate Chip Cookies :D
[01:31] <Unit193> Oatmeal Raisin*
[01:32] <tsimonq2> Sugar cookies?
[01:33] <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, we have made progress with posting to the forum and I think the mailing list went through this time
[01:37] <tsimonq2> ok
[01:38] <Wild_Man> if you want me to do twitter in the future since krytarik does not have a twitter account let me know and we can set it up\
[01:39] <tsimonq2> krytarik has the ability to do Twitter.
[01:40] <Wild_Man> ok
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[01:54] <pleia2> Wild_Man: you can always check the mailing list archives to check if it's been posted :) it has https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/
[01:55] <Wild_Man> pleia2, thanks
[02:02] <krytarik> Nobody has thought of or decided for 'claiming' the custom URL on Google+ yet..? :P
[02:03] <pleia2> you can't until you have a certain number of followers
[02:03] <pleia2> but look at that, we do now!
[02:03] <krytarik> Yes!
[02:03] <pleia2> done :)
[02:03] <krytarik> And here I thought 178 was little.. :P
[02:04] <pleia2> https://plus.google.com/+UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[02:04] <krytarik> Yeep! \o/
[02:04] <pleia2> could be they loosened the restrictions on it, when I claimed +Xubuntu we for sure had over 1000
[02:04] <krytarik> Oh yeah, that could be too.
[02:09] <Wild_Man> pleia2, do I have to join this list to send them email loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <pleia2> yes
[02:09] <Wild_Man> thanks
[02:10] <pleia2> if you don't want to receive emails from the list, there's a setting for that after you subscribe
[02:10] <Wild_Man> ok
[02:14] <Wild_Man> pleia2, is this the one I need https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
[02:14] <pleia2> yes
[02:14] <Wild_Man> thanks
[02:16] <krytarik> Google+ certainly does an amount of caching there too.. :P
[02:16] <pleia2> Google+ is terrible
[02:17] <tsimonq2> Ditto.
[02:20] <krytarik> And while Wild_Man is gonna do Twitter after the mailing list, I still can't do Facebook nor the Fridge of course.
[02:20]  * tsimonq2 punts to pleia2 
[02:20] <tsimonq2> I hate Facebook. :P
[02:21] <tsimonq2> I can do the Fridge.
[02:21] <pleia2> krytarik: would you like me to do facebook?
[02:22] <krytarik> pleia2: Well yes, since it doesn't appear to work with Firefox currently, and I can't technically use Chrome/ium either. :P
[02:23] <pleia2> ok, done
[02:24] <krytarik> Btw, since I'm just looking at the Fridge's front page again - was it used to be all monospace for the forwarded release announcements and such?
[02:25] <pleia2> no, I think guiverc uses the WYSIWYG editor to paste in the announcements from the mailing lists, so they don't have the native formatting that old posts have
[02:28] <guiverc> from lists.ubuntu & yeah I don't worry much about formatting
[02:35] <Wild_Man> pleia2, I posted to twitter, I think the format is right
[02:38] <Wild_Man> All M/L are done
[02:41] <guiverc> is there a wiki on formatting for fridge that anyone knows?  or is it markdown/wiki-like?
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Publishing complete ?
[02:41] <Wild_Man> I think so
[02:42] <Bashing-om> Then we can all get a good nights sleep :P
[02:42] <Wild_Man> I am going to relax, I have not even turned the tv on today
[02:43] <krytarik> I haven't watched TV for like 4 days now - but I'm pretty sure I didn't miss much either.. :P
[02:43] <pleia2> guiverc: it's HTML
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Somebody break out the champaign ( Chocolate Chip Cookies goes well ) :P
[02:45] <pleia2> congrats everyone :)
[02:45] <Wild_Man> when I sent out the emails for the summary writers there was an email in there that said something like reply to this email address if you need to contact us, is it possible some writers have been replying to that address and no one has looked?
[02:46] <Wild_Man> \o/
[02:48] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, to put the stuff from gdoc into the wiki you just need to copy and paste it into the proper section and it should be formatted correctly
[02:49] <Wild_Man> pleia2, when do we start a new gdoc?
[02:49] <pleia2> you just delete the stuff from the existing gdoc and start over
[02:49] <pleia2> don't delete the headings ;) just the articles
[02:50] <Wild_Man> okay that is what I wonder as well, I for sure was going to leave the headings or I would be lost
[02:50] <pleia2> Wild_Man: the ubuntu news gmail account?
[02:50] <pleia2> I don't remember what email address is referenced in the email
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: copy paste for the most part . only bit of formnatting I recall is the summary heading inclosed between 3 dashes. na ofcourse spacing between entries .
[02:52] <Wild_Man> pleia2, says editors email account
[02:52] <pleia2> I'll look at the doc
[02:53] <Wild_Man> it is the one with the summary writers email addresses
[02:53] <pleia2> ah, editor.ubuntu.news@ubuntu.com
[02:53] <pleia2> no one has emailed that account, I do check it
[02:54] <Wild_Man> okay thanks, I had three yeses and one new person is going to start the first of next month
[02:54] <pleia2> that's good to hear :)
[02:54] <Wild_Man> indeed!
[02:54] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: What browser are you running ?? I am presently using chromium and had to install 2 plugins for c/p to gdoc .
[02:54] <Wild_Man> I am using FF
[02:55] <pleia2> I'm using Chrome and never had a problem c/p to/from gdocs
[02:55] <Wild_Man> you copy and paste the heading and all the contest under that heading and it should be formatted perfectly
[02:55] <Wild_Man> it was all the other stuff that took me a while last night
[02:55] <Bashing-om> pleia2: After I got the plugins installed both gdoc and chromiun were happy to cooperate .
[02:56] <Wild_Man> I need to take some meds
[02:57] <pleia2> Wild_Man: sometimes that's how I feel after publishing UWN too ;)
[02:57] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Speaking of all the other stuff, please "git pull" again on the script repo.
[02:57] <Wild_Man> ok
[02:58] <krytarik> ..Pahaha. :D
[03:02] <Wild_Man> krytarik, we did not miss publishing anywhere did we?
[03:05] <Wild_Man> happy days, I just received another reply yes from a summary writer
[03:09] <krytarik> Wild_Man: tsimonq2 is gonna do the Fridge he said, but otherwise nah.
[03:10] <Wild_Man> That is what I thought but I wanted to make sure there is a lot of details to check when publishing as I learned today
[03:10] <krytarik> Which fwiw, is the source I personally get the UWN from.. :P
[03:11] <krytarik> Well, at least you subscribed to all the mailing lists today..  And I didn't have to yet! \o/
[03:12] <krytarik> So next time it'll be much less time-consuming.
[03:12] <Wild_Man> very true
[03:12] <tsimonq2> krytarik: Wanna take Fridge?
[03:14] <krytarik> tsimonq2: ...Unless you magically made my account there anything more than dumb, I can't still. :P
[03:15] <tsimonq2> krytarik: Have you cleared your cache?
[03:16] <krytarik> Well, it was like this right from the start - and as I noticed just earlier, one can't even log in without being in and ticking the appropriate team.
[03:19] <krytarik> To be clear, I can log in but I only get the profile settings then.
[03:20] <krytarik> (And yes, I just also cleared the cache.)
[03:20] <guiverc> krytarik: i have to add a /wpmin something to get more options (note: i'm no expert - i just follow notes)
[03:21] <krytarik> Yes, of course one has to append "wp-admin/" to get there in the first place.
[03:22] <krytarik> I'm currently looking at the dashboard, that is. :)
[03:33] <pleia2> krytarik: did you submit a ticket?
[03:33] <krytarik> Not in the last 1.5 days yet, no.
[03:34] <pleia2> ok
[03:34] <krytarik> I seem to have been busy enough as is already. :P
[03:34] <pleia2> no worries, just wanted to make sure you weren't stuck or anything
[03:35] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Could I please get a peer review? http://ubuntu-news.org/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/
[03:35] <tsimonq2> I haven't done this in months, ya know. ;)
[03:36] <pleia2> hehe
[03:36]  * pleia2 has a look
[03:37] <pleia2> ltgm, all links check out
[03:37] <tsimonq2> \o/
[03:38] <Wild_Man> sounds like we passed?
[03:38] <tsimonq2> Looks like it. :)
[03:38] <pleia2> yes, gold stars all around!
[03:38] <Wild_Man> :)
[03:40] <Bashing-om> :)
[03:51] <krytarik> pleia2: https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=28954 - this is the one about the previous occasion I mentioned btw.
[03:55] <pleia2> interesting, 2016 is after they revoked our access and told us they wouldn't give it back x_x
[03:56] <krytarik> Yes, that's what I was particularly thinking of here.
[03:58] <pleia2> but now that I look at it, we do have admin on xubuntu.org
[03:58] <pleia2> curious
[03:59] <krytarik> Yes. :D
[04:02] <Bashing-om> pleia2: krytarik :; Sharpening our tools are we ?
[04:03] <krytarik> More like looking for the lost marbles..
[04:04] <Bashing-om> LOL ...
[04:05] <Bashing-om> I jave little marbles to loose .. so I sure got to find some .
=== tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-news to: The Ubuntu News Channel - You report it, we publish it! [M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> C[M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> C[M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> C[M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> C[M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> C[M
[04:05] <tsimonq2> I *suck* at this.
[04:05] <tsimonq2> Argh.
[04:05] <tsimonq2> Bear with me, lol.
[04:05] <Wild_Man> takes practice
[04:05] <Wild_Man> I do not use op's often
[04:06] <pleia2> tsimonq2: pro tip: use the chanserv topic command and then no one knows who is doing it, or messing up ;)
=== tsimonq2 changed the topic of #ubuntu-news to: The Ubuntu News Channel - You report it, we publish it! Serving the Fridge, Ubuntu Weekly News, and other fine publications. | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewsTeam | Current UWN Prep: http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[04:06] <tsimonq2> That double space has been annoying me. :P
[04:06] <pleia2> lol
[04:06] <tsimonq2> pleia2: chanserv> But that's no fun. :P
[04:07] <tsimonq2> Also, first topic update in 3.5 years \o/
[04:08]  * Bashing-om likey \o/
[04:08] <krytarik> You just wanted to have your name on it! :(
[04:08] <tsimonq2> krytarik: No, I just despise double spaces.
[04:08] <tsimonq2> And, the lack of Oxford commas.
[04:08] <tsimonq2> ::P
[04:08] <tsimonq2> *:P
[04:09] <krytarik> Yeah, true me too, and I know another one too. :P
[04:09] <tsimonq2> Although, I know how much pleia2 *loves* the Oxford comma. ;)
[04:10] <pleia2> they should only be used when necessary for clarity :P
[04:10] <krytarik> Yes!  Same! \o/
[04:10] <tsimonq2> No, they should be used *always*. :P
[04:10] <Bashing-om> and the krytarik periods :)
[04:11] <krytarik> You mean more like spurious spaces.. :P
[04:11] <tsimonq2> Oh, and ".." instead of "..."
[04:11] <tsimonq2> >_>
[04:12] <krytarik> Yes, I variate there!
[04:14] <tsimonq2> (Only in #ubuntu-news do we argume about grammar. :P)
[04:14] <tsimonq2> *argue
[04:15] <pleia2> hehe
[04:16] <Bashing-om> And style, content, and, presentation :)
[04:16] <krytarik> Period!
[04:16] <Bashing-om> LOL
[04:19] <tsimonq2> That extra comma...
[04:19] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:19] <krytarik> Yes.. :(
[04:44] <Bashing-om> Late for the date for some rack time .. we do this more tomorrow :)
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[13:30] <krytarik> Cool, managed to log in to Facebook now - somehow..
[18:42] <krytarik> So, given what we now know about the admin on Canonical-hosted WordPress thing, it just occurred to me that it might yield a better outcome if, rather than having them fix the role level (to anything other than blank options) for a single team member (me), we request the role level be raised to admin for everybody on the ubuntu-fridge team. :)
[21:11] <Wild_Man> krytarik, howefield fixed it where the whole news letter can be posted on the forum, so I added the updates for 17.10
[21:14] <krytarik> Oh cool - I shouldn't ask what did it.. :P
[21:18] <Wild_Man> pleia2, tsimonq2 I received two emails today one of them with profanity in it about wanting to be removed from the newsletter mailing list, I figure I should reply with the message go to the mailing list page and include the link to unsubscribe but I just want to make sure that is the protocol?
[21:19] <Wild_Man> krytarik, he has not told me yet, he fixed it and went off line but no I would not post it here in the open channel anyway
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: Please forward me the email, and I can take care of it.
[21:19] <pleia2> Wild_Man: PM me their email addresses and I'll remove them, you can reply by saying something like "In the future, be aware that you can unsubscribe yourself by going logging in to the mailing list page"
[21:19] <tsimonq2> Er
[21:19]  * tsimonq2 tags pleia2 
[21:20] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Thanks. :)
[21:20] <pleia2> no sense in making them jump through hoops to unsubscribe if they're already unhappy
[21:20] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I mean that's probably technicalities I wouldn't be particularly interested in knowing. :P
[21:20] <Wild_Man> true
[21:21] <Wild_Man> I am going to see if I can find some links, I have been at the VA almost all day
[21:21] <Wild_Man> I did clear out the gdoc last night so it is ready
[21:22] <Wild_Man> I also need to pm Rick with links to this channel and the wiki page before I forget
[21:41] <Wild_Man> krytarik, has bashing-om been here today?
[21:42] <krytarik> Not yet.
[21:42] <Wild_Man> ok
[22:23] <Wild_Man> will pleia2 and thanks tsimonq2
[22:41] <Wild_Man> krytarik, are you thinking about trying to make a script to pull from the hub? or does that fall into the same category as the forum?
[22:44] <krytarik> Well, I already gave a statement about this some days ago - please see the public logs of this channel.
[22:47] <Wild_Man> ok
[22:48] <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, what exactly is the purpose of this page http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/04/17/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-523/
[22:49] <tsimonq2> Wild_Man: What about it?
[22:49] <krytarik> I'm just writing a script however, that creates the 'in this issue' list automatically. :P
[22:51] <Wild_Man> what is its purpose since it is just a short version of the letter, I am just wondering why have it at all?
[22:51] <Wild_Man> krytarik, that is awesome!
[22:52] <pleia2> Wild_Man: the fridge is the community news blog, some people subscribe to it to get news, including UWN
[22:52] <pleia2> this is also how the newsletter gets to planet.ubuntu.com
[22:53] <pleia2> so just like we post it to the mailing list, forums, social media... fridge is just another place where people get to see it
[22:54] <Wild_Man> pleia2, so the planet gets the shortened version with the link to see the full version?
[22:54] <pleia2> yes
[22:54] <pleia2> the full version is too long for a blog :)
[22:55] <Wild_Man> Thanks for clearing that up
[22:57] <Wild_Man> hello Bashing-om
[22:59] <Wild_Man> krytarik, for most sections we really only need about 3 stories correct?
[22:59] <Wild_Man> I added 3 to the planet section
[22:59] <krytarik> Well, I'd say no more than 5 or such.
[22:59] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Here we go again .. I see the gdoc has begun for next issue :)
[23:00] <Wild_Man> okay we are thnking along the same lines
[23:00] <krytarik> Depends on what you find the week, of course.
[23:00] <Wild_Man> of course
[23:00] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I cleared it out last night so it would be easy to start today
[23:01] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Gonna add 2 links to general ..
[23:02] <Wild_Man> good deal Bashing-om, howefield fixed the forum issue for us so now the whole news letter is on the forum
[23:03] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Hreat news about the forum .. lemme check the rss feed .. see what I can find for gdoc .
[23:04] <Bashing-om> Great*
[23:12] <Wild_Man> what other sources can we use under canonical it says most come from insights.ubuntu.com so that implies we may get some from other sources?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: This one: http://www.roaksoax.com/2018/04/maas-2-4-0-beta-2-released . Put it under conical or cloud or blog ???
[23:23] <wildmanne39> never mind about the question above I found the answer
[23:26] <Bashing-om> wildmanne39: Ehat are your thouhgts on MAAS . The AP is cloud directed .. and Cononical is the driver but the source is from a blog .
[23:26] <Bashing-om> What*
[23:27] <wildmanne39> It could go under cloud, we have three other ones in the Planet already Bashing-om
[23:28] <wildmanne39> it may be a question to asked the experienced people on there thoughts, either way is okay with me
[23:29] <wildmanne39> I am going to log out and see if I can get back on now as Wild Man
[23:33] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yepper I too think cloud for MAAS :)
[23:34] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, it is more appropriate
[23:37] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Nope, no can do ,, as the source is a blog .. and no blogs in the Cloud and no summaries . .. I Put the MAAS source in the blog section .
[23:43] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, any idea how to undo an edit we were working in the same section and it blew up
[23:43] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, never mind I found the undo button and fixed it
[23:43] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, if it can not go in the cloud then it is more appropriate in the Planet section where I found it
[23:44] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I guess this falls out side of what we should publish but it is interesting https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/microsoft-linux-custom-kernel-azure-sphere?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29
[23:47] <Wild_Man> biab I need to do a few things
[23:48] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Lemme sign oot of gdoc .. and back in .. see what the state is ..  as to kernel-azure . I was going to look at that one in length and then see if we could make it relevant .
[23:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: gdoc looks all right to me at this time .
[23:52] <Wild_Man> I fixed Bashing-om
[23:54] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: K .. ack to "looking for sources"
[23:55] <Bashing-om> back*
[23:58] <Wild_Man> eating Bashing-om