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kostkonnew0, about the number of packages?00:00
new0kostkon, yes00:00
kostkonnew0, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QGDMM7Xmyt/00:01
new0kostkon, ahh nice one :)00:02
new0kostkon, so... what dist-upgrade actually does? unlike update00:02
new0hooo man. it's even updating the Sublime-Text in my OS00:04
kostkonnew0, generally it can also remove or add new packages00:04
new0i thought it's only upgrading the System not the software/applications00:04
kostkonnew0, everything can be updated in ubuntu. more or less00:05
new0kostkon, so i can go few version back for some software/application?00:05
kostkonnew0, no, it's not easy to do that00:05
new0kostkon, yes but didn't know about the apps too00:05
new0ho ok00:05
new0so... what is the diff? dist-upgrade and update?00:05
kostkonnew0, unlike update it can also add or remove packages and handle the associated dependencies a little better00:07
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guivercupdate - updates your software repository lists.   upgrade - upgrades your software versions with certain restrictions.   dist-upgrade does upgrade plus packages upgrade couldn't touch.  (see 'man apt-get' for more info)00:08
new0guiverc, ok. tnx00:09
new0in meantime my disk space dropping to few 100M :)00:13
rud0lfi have some bash and python scripts that i would like to be system-wide (for all users); what is the best way to place them on PATH?00:26
rud0lfwithout mangling with PATH variable itself00:26
rud0lf /usr/bin ? /usr/local/bin ?00:26
guivercrud0lf: i'd use /usr/local/bin/  - but if you have policies; stick to those00:26
rud0lfnah00:27
rud0lfthanks for suggestion00:27
rud0lfnah: i don't have policies00:27
new0hi it's just asking me about the Configuring grub-pc whether i should keep my own modification or "install the package maintainer's version" is there new commnad or new setting to grub from 14.04 LTS?00:28
guivercnew0: do you know your change?   if I make a change (esp. once I know why/what i did), i always accept 'package maintainers' version knowing it may overwrite my change; as I can always re-do my change (why I work out what I did first!)00:30
new0guiverc, yes. i figure since that might be the case.. i did go the /etc/default/grub and cp to grub.backup-modified so i can always backup my changes00:32
new0guiverc, just wanted to make sure i will not sure something immediatly when upgrading new system00:33
new0so i kept the package maintainers's version00:33
new0tnx00:33
fbnhi @ll, where can I ask a question regarding Ubuntu MaaS and what the cheapest power outlet is supported by it (to power cycle) ?00:33
guivercnew0: yep. i usually switch to term, to ensure I made a grub.cfg.blah.yyyy-mm-dd (ie. i leave breadcrumbs as doco) backup of file, so i can `diff` and check what was changed etc...00:34
guivercditto /etc/default/grub or any other file00:35
new0guiverc, nice thinking by date :) love it00:35
guiverc(the blah is usually my username, short-reason etc)00:35
new0omg i think i just run out of space00:36
guivercnew0: you can re-do the command and i'll continue (once you have cleared the space issue).  if you're not worried about bandwidth you could always `sudo apt autoclean;sudo apt autoremove` but this will cause downloaed non-installed packages to be re-downloaded, so more efficient would be you deleting whatever you know you can (on / or full partition)00:38
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JHOSMANHi, I need help with an apt-mirror, someone here has experience?00:42
JHOSMAN# apt install nano Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package nano is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'nano' has no installation candidate00:43
new0guiverc, tnx00:43
new0guiverc, so.. should i be worry right now that my system can crush?00:43
guiverccrush???00:44
JHOSMAN#debian-mirrors00:44
new0guiverc, could it crush?00:45
new0guiverc, i dunno what can happen when system is out of disk space00:45
new0i am running df and / have 0 avaiable00:45
guivercsorry but I don't what you mean by crush.  crash?00:45
new0guiverc, yes crash. sorry for my english :)00:46
guivercsystem no, apps - who knows  (i'd expect not; but varies on app).  do you often clean space?  if you never do, the commands i gave assumed that was the case00:46
new0guiverc, what cmd?00:50
oerheksJHOSMAN, is there no nano standard in Debian? in Ubuntu it is ...00:51
guiverc`sudo apt autoremove; sudo apt autoclean`  - but will cause non-installed packages to be redownloaded again (using some space again; i'm hoping it'll clear more used space that just the will get used again)00:51
new0yep. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) i think it's because the space issue00:52
new0ok00:52
new0is it possible that all the update and upgrade dist-upgrade took more than 1GB or space?00:54
JHOSMANoerheks: see the log with my local apt-mirror in the moment of try install nano00:54
JHOSMANhttps://pastebin.com/a9TY92zQ00:54
guivercnew0: i don't know how long it was since your last upgrade/dist-upgrade thus size of packages to be upgraded, let alone prior clutter you'd not cleaned... 1gb is large yes, but if you've tons of packages & not done in awhile then yes00:55
new0guiverc, it's must be udge00:58
yosefHello I have a question is there a way to revert back to an earlier update such as 17.04 from 17.10?Thanks.01:00
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Bashing-omyosef: No, the only way is forward .. a fresh install is recommended to go back .. and be aware 17.04 is no longer supported .01:03
new0guiverc, Q about the OS when i am moving a Folder with a lot of files. is the OS waiting to clear the space from the source drive until all the moving Folder is been moved? or does it clear the space for every file been moved? (after been moved probably been also deleted from source and copied to destination)01:04
yosefSounds Good n I am also looking at installing the updates. I asked this question because I cannot get VLC player to play dvd's n I have installed the Codecs n still no luck. maybe this is a seperate issue away from this site.01:05
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yosefThanks Bashing-om01:10
new0kostkon, here?01:10
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netbookfoundhello guys01:11
guiverc_new0: when moving folder of files (sorry I stepped out, better if you direct the question to anyone); if on the same drive I'd expect no copy/delete as same inodes (blocks or sectors on drive) would contain data, just the directory entries are moved (not inodes containing data), if moving actual drive then this doesn't apply01:11
netbookfoundI was wondering if I could revive an old netbook with only 2GB of storage and 512MB of ram with a minimal install01:11
new0kostkon, btw it seems that you were right!! now the system popup me with "Software Update" The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates.01:11
netbookfoundor should I look for other distros01:11
xamithanNah ubuntu isn't going to run with 512mb RAM unless you don't need a DE01:13
slidinghornnetbookfound: any  minimal distro will do just about the same for you01:13
new0guiverc_, tnx but that's ok :)01:13
guiverc_sorry my text was unclear..  a move on same drive means data isn't touched (data being stored on sectors or inodes on fs), just the directory entries require movement (from old location to new one)01:13
slidinghornxamithan: hence, why they said minimal...01:13
netbookfoundwell, I don't intend to do anything serious with this01:13
netbookfoundeven lxde struggled to run and anything other than the distro itself and a couple of packages the disk would run out of space01:14
slidinghornnetbookfound: you could start with a minimal install, and likely some extra light WM and maybe even a small browser (depends on exactly what you want to do with it)01:15
netbookfoundlikely a machine dedicated to IRC and related01:16
netbookfoundso I was thinking putting i3 and a lightweight browser like midori just in case01:16
slidinghornnetbookfound: if you're just lookign for IRC etc, you might eve be able to get away without a WM - just use stuff like irssi & lynx :)01:17
netbookfoundyep, that's one I was thinking of01:17
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new0kostkon, guiverc_, akik, also i have some updates for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZbhCfKV5J6/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9tWN78V2gW/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SbJCb7Kd2b/ it seems like everything working great01:27
dunnousernamefnHey, I was thinking about running an Ubuntu server (either aarch64 or arm) installation with drupal on apache... I see in different places on the wiki that the minimum requirements for ubuntu server are 256M, 384M, or 512M... what is it really? And do those metrics include services that are standard with ubuntu server, e.g. DNS servers or web servers?01:40
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Thunder_RulerI'm having issues locking my computer, can anyone help me?02:25
allizomThunder_Ruler: someone may, go on and explain your issue for it to be possible02:27
Thunder_RulerThe issue that i'm having is that I cannot lock my computer for whatever reason now, I think it may have something to do with me trying to mess around with LightDM, trying to customize the lockscreen on 16.04. Whenever I press to lock the computer, the screen turns off, on, off and then brings me right back to where I was before02:29
Thunder_Rulerthe  output of gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.lockdown does show: org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen true02:31
Thunder_Rulerbut I don't know how to change it02:31
akem_Thunder_Ruler, with "dconf", you can navigate to that value and switch it on or off.02:34
Thunder_RulerI'm a little confused how to use it inside of the terminal, can you explain?02:36
akem_Thunder_Ruler, dconf has a GUI, just install "dconf" with apt, then type "dconf" in your term to launch it.02:37
akem_Thunder_Ruler, err, type: dconf-editor02:38
akem_This one is the GUI version.02:39
Thunder_Rulergot it, gonna try it out02:39
allizomThunder_Ruler: "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen false" should also work02:40
Thunder_RulerAwesome this worked perfectly for me :D02:40
* Thunder_Ruler does a happy jiggle02:41
Thunder_Ruleri'll be sure to put the solution on AskUbuntu aswell02:41
Thunder_RulerNow is dconf similar to how windows Control Panel in a way? I'm noticing some similarities.02:42
yosefhow do I open a tar.gz file in Ubuntu Mate 17.10.15? Thanks.02:48
granttrecyosef, tar -xf02:54
yosefgranttrec normaly it opens with an installer but in Ubuntu mate this is not the case.02:59
yosefsays it's a tar gz03:00
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yosefThanks granttrec I just use synaptic.03:17
granttrecnp, learn apt when you can, not much different tbh yosef03:21
snuggerthanyouCongrats on the release in 10 days guys :-)03:23
yosefI Like using the terminal n am learning n also synaptic I like. I dual boot to Mint. Thanks.03:23
yosefThanks granttrec03:24
granttrecanytime m803:24
granttrecsnuggerthanyou, a non beta release?03:25
tyamuri,m using ubuntu 15.1003:25
snuggerthanyougranttrec: Official release releases on the 26th03:26
granttrecawesome :)03:27
dunnousernamefnHey, so I'm trying to burn an arch linux iso to a dvd. The wiki suggests using a program with a nautilus right-click menu integration thingy, but I have ubuntu-desktop installed over Ubuntu Server. How should I burn the ISO?03:28
dunnousernamefnAlso, Disks says it's 2kb and I can't write to it using Disk Image Writer (it's a usb dvd drive if that means anything)03:28
granttrecdunnousernamefn, try startup disk creator, pretty ez03:29
dunnousernamefnI can't remember if I had problems with that in the past03:29
dunnousernamefnBut I'm probably just imagining things03:29
granttrecalthough I'm a little bit dubious of you installing arch if this is a problem :$03:30
dunnousernamefnHmmm, it's only recognizing my external hard drive03:30
snuggerthanyouScenario: You have 1 package from a meta-package already installed. If you install the meta package will it install the same package again or skip it?03:30
dunnousernamefnI'm testing it out before installing it on a small computer03:30
dunnousernamefnI wouldn't survive without a dual boot system :P03:30
slidinghorndunnousernamefn: Arch isn't a live distro.03:30
dunnousernamefnI'm trying to make an install disk03:30
dunnousernamefnInstalling it onto said external hard drive03:31
slidinghorndunnousernamefn: that's the thing - if making an install disk is an issue, Arch isn't going to be a good idea03:31
granttrecsame level of customization available on ubuntu dunnousernamefn03:32
dunnousernamefnYes, but I'm trying to get to learn it before installing it on a small ARM board03:32
dunnousernamefnIt only has 256MB of RAM03:32
dunnousernamefnI would totally go for ubuntu server but I'm not sure if it's capable03:33
slidinghorndunnousernamefn: Then I'd suggest using a VM instead.  Again, if you cannot create an install disk, you're not going to be able to properly install and configure Arch.03:33
granttrecthere is ubuntu for arm eh dunnousernamefn03:33
snuggerthanyouthere wouldnt be a noticeable difference in memory usage with no desktop03:33
snuggerthanyouand you'll have to deal with the abomination that is pacman03:33
dunnousernamefnoh god, I forgot about that03:33
dunnousernamefnEspecially with ARM support03:34
granttrechttps://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm03:34
snuggerthanyouI'd recommend fedora server arm or ubuntu server arm03:34
snuggerthanyoufedora'll probably use a tiny bit less memory03:34
dunnousernamefnI might just install ubuntu server x86 in a vm for now03:34
dunnousernamefnOh, that's right; I can't get hardware emulation working03:35
dunnousernamefnThat was my problem03:35
dunnousernamefnIt said something about a cpuid bit03:35
slidinghorndunnousernamefn: what application were you using for a VM?03:35
dunnousernamefnI was using qemu03:35
snuggerthanyousince it uses selinux and ubuntu uses apparmor03:35
dunnousernamefnI could try virtualbox I guess03:36
granttrectry gnome boxes03:36
dunnousernamefngnome boxes?03:36
dunnousernamefnlemme look that up03:36
granttrecvirtual box is a pain on ubuntu03:36
snuggerthanyougranttrec: No?03:36
andfoxso how trustworthy are Snap packages? couldn't they be bundled with spyware?03:36
snuggerthanyousnap packages are verified by snap devs03:36
snuggerthanyouThey're fine03:36
dunnousernamefnThat still uses libvirt03:37
andfoxall of them, snuggerthanyou ?03:37
dunnousernamefnWhich is where the problem is03:37
snuggerthanyouandfox: Yes. Much more secure than, let's say, the AUR03:37
granttrecif your computer doesn't support virutalization then there is nothing to do03:37
granttrecvbox uses libvirt also03:37
dunnousernamefnvirtualbox's headers once caused my computer to shut down upon creating a vm03:37
granttrecsnuggerthanyou, its a pain since the whole uefi thing03:38
dunnousernamefnIt should though03:38
snuggerthanyouThat doesn't make any sense03:39
dunnousernamefnIt's a newer computer03:39
dunnousernamefnCan I find out?03:39
snuggerthanyouUEFI or BIOS don't affect anything outside of the boot mode03:39
granttrecdunnousernamefn, what processor?03:40
dunnousernamefnIt's a core i5 7th gen quad core mobile03:40
dunnousernamefnMaybe it's mobile being the problem03:40
snuggerthanyoudunnousernamefn: What do you want to do again?03:40
snuggerthanyouand that wouldn't be the problem03:40
snuggerthanyouYou want to use virtualbox on ubuntu?03:40
granttrecsnuggerthanyou, specifcally secure boot03:40
dunnousernamefnI'm installing it now03:40
snuggerthanyougranttrec: That has nothing to do with BIOS or UEFI03:41
snuggerthanyouIt's an option in both03:41
snuggerthanyouJust turn it off if it's on03:41
dunnousernamefnI'm trying to install another linux distro in a vm03:41
granttreci want to keep secure boot on tho03:41
snuggerthanyouOkay. whats the problem dunnousernamefn03:41
dunnousernamefnIt runs really slow and it takes all of the cpu, which I suspect is due to a cpuid virtualization error message when I start qemu03:42
snuggerthanyouHow much memory do you have? (RAM)03:42
dunnousernamefn24G03:42
snuggerthanyouHave you installed KVM?03:42
dunnousernamefnI thought so... hmmm03:42
snuggerthanyouTry installing it and see if it says it's already installed03:43
granttrecinstalled if you download vbox etc03:43
dunnousernamefnqemu-kvm is latest03:43
snuggerthanyouTry sudo apt-get install kvm03:43
snuggerthanyouAre you using an LTS kernel?03:43
dunnousernamefneither 17.10 or 16.0403:43
dunnousernamefnI think03:43
snuggerthanyouDo uname -a03:44
snuggerthanyouWhats the output03:44
dunnousernamefnLinux UBUNTU-2FRK9IS 4.13.0-37-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 7 14:13:23 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux03:44
snuggerthanyouAre you sure kvm is installed? Try installing standalone kvm and see if it says its already installed03:45
dunnousernamefnkvm isn't in apt, only kvmtool03:45
dunnousernamefnNote, selecting 'qemu-kvm' instead of 'kvm'03:45
dunnousernamefnAnd it is latest03:45
granttrecthats the package03:45
snuggerthanyouHm03:46
dunnousernamefnvbox seems to work03:46
dunnousernamefniirc it doesn't boot without kvm03:46
snuggerthanyouDid you tweak the settings in qemu?03:47
granttrecyoure good to go then03:47
snuggerthanyouYou might not have given the distro enough memory03:47
granttrecimo reinstall gnome boxes, its made to be pretty easy to install vms, if you can run vbox you can run this program03:47
snuggerthanyoudunnousernamefn: Did you tweak qemu's settings?03:49
dunnousernamefndoes qemu have settings?03:50
snuggerthanyouI believe so03:50
dunnousernamefnAnd I think vbox is working now03:50
snuggerthanyouAlright then. Glad it works for you03:50
dunnousernamefnThanks guys03:50
snuggerthanyouThings like virtualization software are known to be wonky03:50
snuggerthanyouSo don't sweat it03:51
dunnousernamefnIt would seem so03:51
granttrecehh its pretty good, just need to read up on some things03:51
dunnousernamefnwoah I can make vbox only use 40% of my cpu03:51
CoJaBoIs there anyway to debug why ubuntu bionic (server) is freezing? has been stable for several weeks now, and now has frozen up twice in 2 days03:52
slidinghornCoJaBo: try in #ubuntu+103:52
snuggerthanyouAre you using a DE?03:52
USERNAME00is there a way i can change the bg color of the short transition between login and desktop?04:01
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granttreclightdm config USERNAME0004:09
dunnousernamefnOkay, so now my problem with virtualbox is: I'm trying to expose a web server from the vm to the host (port 80, to port 8880 or even just port 80 works), but I always get connection refused or it just times out04:21
dunnousernamefnI've tried using NAT, NAT network, bridged adapter, and uh...04:22
dunnousernamefnhost-only adapter04:22
dunnousernamefn`ifconfig` on the guest always stays at 10.0.2.15 (and of course loopback), regardless of the type of connection04:23
cfhowlettdunnousernamefn, might want to query #vbox04:25
granttrecthat’s out of my scope dunnousernamefn04:25
dunnousernamefnOh, didn't know we had one of those04:25
yosefI am Trying to download Repository n update the Cache which server should I use?Thanks.04:29
cfhowlettyosef, localize your mirror through software settings04:29
yosefcfhowlett is that in software n updates?04:30
cfhowlettyep.  look at the settings.  go to software sources04:31
yosefdownload from?04:31
cfhowlettyep.  select "best"04:32
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: speaking of the devil :p https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/ubuntu-studio-plans-to-reboot04:32
yosefcfhowlett got it it found the best. Thanks.04:34
cfhowlettI saw.  Good to know, as I found the non-LTS news a bit despressing.  Also, for once, OMG Ubuntu actually acknowledged US's existence.04:34
cfhowlettyosef, good job!04:34
cfhowletthappy2help!04:34
USERNAME000Where?04:34
cfhowlettwhat?04:35
USERNAME000Who?04:35
yosefDanke04:35
cfhowlettbitte04:35
USERNAME000What, What.....04:35
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USERNAME000So I'm running Bionic Beaver04:37
USERNAME000Noticed a few issues with qemu getting kvm permissions.04:37
granttreccontinue USERNAME00004:37
USERNAME000when loading with --enable-kvm or straight up kvm i get unable to get kernel module permissions.04:38
USERNAME000on a clean install04:38
USERNAME000updated all of the things.04:38
USERNAME000I giggle a little every time I say "Beaver" by the way.04:39
lotuspsychjeUSERNAME000: #ubuntu+1 for bionic please04:39
* apanama leaving04:46
USERNAME000When does BB drop?04:49
lotuspsychjeUSERNAME000: drop?04:50
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USERNAME000like it hot? Release.04:50
granttrecapril 26 lol04:50
USERNAME000Ahh04:50
lotuspsychjeUSERNAME000: 26 april04:50
USERNAME000Thank you.04:50
Guest14828hi04:51
cfhowlettgreetings Guest14828 ask your ubuntu question04:54
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protocol_hivequestion here: im trying to install font via terminal and having a melt down. anyone got a easy walk though? looking to use https://github.com/MarinHoc/cherry-font.git05:04
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granttrecprotocol_hive, are you on x or wayland?05:10
zaapielI'm curious how one goes about finding out the usb device name for dd?05:10
protocol_hivegranttrec: x05:11
granttrechmm idk then the instructions look pretty straigtforward, what are you stuck on?05:11
granttreczaapiel, ls /dev/sda*05:13
zaapielwould device usb work for dd?05:13
zaapielor is that a placeholder05:13
zaapielk05:13
zaapielty05:13
granttreczaapiel, df -h is more useful actutally05:14
protocol_hivegranttrec: well, ive have never done this before. i understand that i would git clone source and then find donwload location, cd into dir and run make.sh? but im lost after that..05:17
granttrechave you run make.sh?05:18
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granttreceh protocol_hive05:19
protocol_hivegranttrec: yes i have05:20
granttrecok find the dir `out` then run the mv command05:21
granttrec`cherry-font/out` actually05:21
SircleHow to get rid of this extra color line $ sudo ps auxw |grep something05:24
Sircleuser1     5376  0.0  0.0  14224   940 pts/1    S+   22:23   0:00 grep --color=auto something05:24
protocol_hivegranttrec: yeah, i think im lost trying to find that dir... i dont know where it is located. there a easy way of finding?05:24
moisehi05:24
granttrecprotocol_hive, find . -name `cherry-font`05:25
granttrecwait, you should be in dir `cherry-font` no?05:26
granttrecthats part of the search Sircle05:27
granttrecalso no sudo needed05:29
protocol_hivegranttrec: i put the github download in my downloads, ran make.sh from there05:29
granttrecok there should be a dir called cherry-font in downloads then05:29
granttreccd into that directory and follow the commands, out should be a sub dir protocol_hive05:31
protocol_hivegranttrec: ok, yeah then im there already. sorry didnt notice05:31
SlyG07I'm new to the UNIX coding and have been trying to simply hash check my Ubuntu iso file, but I cannot seem to get the command line in the right directory.05:31
SlyG07Can anyone help?05:31
granttrecwhat type of hash SlyG07 ?05:32
cfhowlett1.  unix ain't linux SlyG0705:32
SlyG07md5sums05:32
cfhowlett!md5sum | SlyG0705:32
ubottuSlyG07: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM05:32
SlyG07and sha256sums05:32
SlyG07I think my directories are messed up though.05:33
SlyG07I tried following this -- https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#405:33
Sirclegranttrec, I am trying to do something like this but the color thing will show that the service is onn always https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-a-simple-bash-script-to-restart-server-programs05:33
SlyG07cfhowlett: I've only learned this terminology in the past 2 hours, so I apologize if I am incorrect.05:34
cfhowlett:)  and it begins.  no worries.05:34
granttrecfollow the posted link and check back SlyG0705:34
SlyG07I did. I am stuck at the terminal part granttrec .05:35
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SlyG07Navigating the directory is a little confusing... if I even set it up correctly.05:35
cfhowlettsetting up the directory?  what?  have you already installed ubuntu?05:36
SlyG07I think so...05:36
granttrecSircle, thats what the script does05:36
SlyG07Ubuntu = terminal?05:36
Sirclegranttrec,  what do you mean?05:36
cfhowlett!details | SlyG07,05:37
ubottuSlyG07,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.05:37
cfhowlettSlyG07, I'm guessing you are using ubuntu on windows?05:37
SlyG07cfhowlett: yes05:37
cfhowlettthat ain't ubuntu05:37
SlyG07Through the app, followed https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#405:37
cfhowlett!wsl | SlyG0705:38
ubottuSlyG07: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide05:38
granttrecSircle, "color thing will show that the service is onn always" thats the point of the script i think05:38
SlyG07ubottu: Thanks, I already enabled the Subsystem.05:39
ubottuSlyG07: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:39
cfhowlettSlyG07, if you merely want the terminal based experience, continue.  if you want to experience the true might and power of this OS, install virtualbox on windows, create a virtual machine and install ubuntu in the VM.05:39
Sirclegranttrec,  I want to restart a service/ app if its not running05:40
SlyG07cfhowlett: I have done that as well already, haha. That's up and running, but I wanted to try the basics of this md5sum and sha256sums check.05:40
protocol_hivegranttrec: when i run mkfontdir ~/Downloads/cherry-font/out it returns opendir: not a directory. I dont think im understanding05:41
cfhowlettyou run hash checks on the .iso.  download the .iso.  do NOT extract the files.05:41
SlyG07Right, I know that's the typical order as you're confirming the .iso file is correct, but I have already downloaded everything into one file.05:42
SlyG07folder*05:42
cfhowlettthen you did not follow the instructions.05:42
SlyG07Hmm...05:43
cfhowletthere's the deal.  download and save the .iso.05:43
cfhowlettRun has checks against the .iso.  but you said you already installed so ...05:43
Sirclegranttrec,  it greps for any process matching name. If theres color. the match will always be true05:43
SlyG07Yeah, I already installed. I just wanted to practice the basics. Does having the iso installed affect the ability to run the checks?05:44
SlyG07I am working backwards in this regard.05:44
cfhowlettyes.  yes you are.05:45
cfhowlettwe check the .iso BEFORE installation to ensure it's reliable.05:45
granttrecSircle, grep is aliased to show colour and it is a process, so it will show up always, its not an extra line05:45
SlyG07Right. I got to the point where I was lost at the Windows Ubuntu terminal trying to navigate the directory. Then, I just went ahead and installed the .iso file. Now I am just trying to see what I did wrong to troubleshoot and figure out whether the checks are still okay.05:47
SlyG07...for future file checks, I will at least have a process down.05:47
SlyG07the*05:47
zaapieldudes dd messed my usb thing up so now i dont see it with df -h05:47
zaapielany ideas?05:48
zaapieli used to see /dev/sdc105:48
zaapielnow i see nothing for it05:48
cfhowlettI'm not certain you even download a .iso for the windows based system.  you might be better served in the ubuntu-windows channel05:48
Sirclegranttrec,  if I get shown the color always then this line will always be true if [ $? != 0 ]05:48
cfhowlett!wsl | SlyG0705:48
ubottuSlyG07: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide05:48
granttreclol what did you do with the usb? zaapiel05:49
granttrecbe careful with dd05:49
zaapieli was trying to burn trueos whcih is freebsd based and issued the command dd if=tureos.ius.img of=/dec/sdc105:50
zaapieli didnt use blocksize since it didnt reconfginize 1m05:50
zaapielit doesnt see the  usb drive now05:50
zaapielis it broke?05:51
cfhowlettzaapiel,do you have ubuntu installed?05:51
zaapielyes05:51
granttrecuse startup disk creator05:52
cfhowlettnope05:52
zaapielzaapiel@zaapiel-27-p120qe ~/Downloads $ df -h05:52
zaapielFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:52
zaapieludev            7.8G     0  7.8G   0% /dev05:52
zaapieltmpfs           1.6G  9.6M  1.6G   1% /run05:52
cfhowlettstartup disk creator is a dedicated UBUNTU usb creator.  won't fly other OS's05:52
zaapieltmpfs           7.8G  1.9M  7.8G   1% /dev/shm05:52
zaapieltmpfs           5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock05:52
granttrectrue, my bad cfhowlett05:53
cfhowlettno worries05:53
akikzaapiel: of=/dev/sdc05:53
cfhowlettzaapiel, cat /etc/issue | pastebinit05:53
granttrecSircle, yep05:57
granttrecstill works although not written well05:58
granttreceh "written well"06:01
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bax3l33tHello06:14
cfhowlettgreetings bax3l33t what is your ubuntu ??06:15
bax3l33tubuntu 17.1006:15
bax3l33ti have some question about sound servers06:17
chendonghell06:18
chendonghello06:18
cfhowlettgreetings chendong ask your ubuntu questions06:18
chendong?06:18
cfhowlett!sound | bax3l33t see this first06:18
ubottubax3l33t see this first: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.06:18
chendongbudong06:19
cfhowlettchendong, eh?06:19
anonymipI get this message about every 15min, I understand many ppl see this. Is it anything to worry about? kernel: CIFS VFS: Free previous auth_key.response06:22
bax3l33tthanks for links but its special i have no sound with the mamedev project= mame06:23
cfhowlettanonymip, seems to be kernel related.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1021939/cifs-vfs-free-previous-auth-key-response06:24
anonymipok, what do I do about it? I run ubuntu 17.1006:25
cfhowlettanonymip, I didn't see the fix in the top google responses.  update the kernels?06:26
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pagios_hello, i tried buring a windows.iso file on unetbootin and dd command and tried to set the bootflag on using fdisk toggle, still icant boot my iso even though the files have been extracted correctly on the usb what can be the problem? the bootprocess just skips usb boot even when i select it from bios07:15
pagios_hello, i tried buring a windows.iso file on unetbootin and dd command and tried to set the bootflag on using fdisk toggle, still icant boot my iso even though the files have been extracted correctly on the usb what can be the problem? the bootprocess just skips usb boot even when i select it from bios07:15
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lotuspsychje!winusb | pagios07:22
ubottupagios: WinUSB is a tool for preparing bootable Windows Instalation USBs. Please see http://en.congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html for instructions on installation and use. #ubuntu does *not* provide support for this tool, so please do not ask for help here if it doesn't work for you.07:22
Triffid_Hunterlotuspsychje: hm, can I use that to start off a dual boot usb properly?07:24
lotuspsychjeTriffid_Hunter: what do you mean a dualboot usb, persistent?07:25
Triffid_Hunterlotuspsychje: well I have a dualboot at the moment with win10 installer and mint 18 live, but the win installer always complains about having no drivers but won't say what drivers it's looking for07:26
Triffid_HunterI'm wondering if it simply doesn't like how I've set up the USB but as usual it's impossible to debug because it doesn't actually give any information about the problem07:26
lotuspsychjeTriffid_Hunter: we dont support mint & windows07:26
Triffid_Hunteryeah I know, but I hadn't heard of this tool before, wondering how much you've played with it07:27
lotuspsychjeTriffid_Hunter: winusb is a tool to create a windows usb from .iso thats all07:27
lotuspsychjeTriffid_Hunter: ##windows if you need help on booting/rescue windows07:28
gogetaTriffid_Hunter, kinda making things over complex when you can get 3 packs of 16gb sticks for 20$07:30
Triffid_Huntergogeta: sure, but I only want one on my keyring :P07:30
gogetaTriffid_Hunter,getting windows 10 to do anything is tricky lol07:32
MJCD" The dream of an Ubuntu Phone is dead, Canonical announced today, putting an end to the long and winding journey for handsets that once promised to offer an alternative to the major mobile operating systems. "07:33
MJCDwtf why07:33
lotuspsychje!discuss | MJCD07:33
ubottuMJCD: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!07:33
gogetaMJCD, its been dead for some time07:33
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lindbergioHas anyone figured out how to disable screen orientation in Bionic? I have tried setting the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchscreen orientation-lock' key to 'true' and 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.orientation active' key to 'false'.08:00
lindbergioWill ask this in #ubuntu+1 instead08:01
louis__22is there anyone can help me ?08:04
louis__22I have installed ubuntu 14.04, while i find there is no voice when I play any video.08:05
louis__22anyone can provide any sugesstion to me?08:10
TJ-louis__22: By 'voice' do you mean 'sound' output?08:13
hateballlouis__22: Is this local media, or from say youtube in a browser?08:14
Triffid_Hunterlouis__22: is there other sounds but no voice? set your soundcard to 2-channel rather than surround, or make sure you're using the right port.. ran into that the other day, was very strange for a while ;)08:16
louis__22@louis_22: My computer is a desktop computer and can only listen to music through headphones. However, when listening to online music or online video, no sound can be heard from the headphones08:22
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hateballlouis__22: but you get audio from local files?08:23
TJ-louis__22: on 14.04 that might be an issue related to how the browser connects to the sound devices. There were some issues some years ago where it'd try to directly use the ALSA device, instead of using the Pulseaudio sound multiplexer08:26
hateballlouis__22: If this is a fresh install it's an odd choice in my opinion to go with 14.04 which goes EOL in a year. Rather than 16.04 or even 18.04 (which is out in a few days)08:28
leeyaahello. does anyone know a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/159079908:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1590799 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu Zesty) "nfs-kernel-server does not start because of dependency failure" [Medium,Fix released]08:54
leeyaai cant start nfs08:54
leeyaai am on latest xenial08:55
leeyaaanyone? :)09:07
guivercleeyaa: it states its fixed for xenial; is your system up-to-date?09:09
guiverca number of work-arounds are provided in the long bugreport (most are for xenial)09:11
* USERNAME00 does a barrel roll into the room.09:13
leeyaaguiverc: i tried all, still cant start it09:13
leeyaasystem is very recent, 1-2 weeks09:14
Flannel https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f6/13/6f/f6136fd24612515802088de14743002c.jpg09:15
Flanneldangit.09:15
guivercsorry leeyaa, i can't see anything else09:18
c1747680hi all09:19
phil42hi09:19
alholou0-0920923still have no voice in my headphone after try many method in this website09:25
alholou0-0920923https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/09:25
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louis__22 still have no voice in my headphone after try many method in this website.  https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/09:26
louis__22I'm deading...for this problem09:27
leeyaaguiverc: just tried updating to latest packages. same thing ...09:28
leeyaaeven dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work for it09:29
leeyaa./usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nfs-kernel-server is broken or not fully installed09:29
leeyaai tried purging as well09:29
saurabhlouis__22: tried pavucontrol?09:33
oxff_hi, did anyone install bionic via debootstrap yet?09:57
RyanRTI have a question regarding installation of Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS from a USB thumbstick to a 2008 macbook09:57
oxff_at least when installing with the trusty debootstrap package, i don't get /bin, /usr, etc in destination directory09:57
BluesKajHi folks09:57
oxff_but /debootstrap09:57
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oxffcommandline was # debootstrap --arch amd64 bionic /mnt09:58
oxffi modified the /usr/lib/debootstrap symlink for bionic to point to xenial09:58
oxffused to point to gutsy iirc09:58
cluelesspersonHow do you fix ubuntu's routing to handle multiple interfaces?09:59
RyanRTI have just finished installing the OS from the USB onto my Macbook and after the install process and upon reboot I am now seeing the install screen again rather then it booting to the od09:59
RyanRTis it as simple as that I have not removed the thumbstick from the macbook before i rebooted10:00
cluelesspersonRyanRT: possibly, try it10:01
BluesKajcluelessperson, what kind of multiple interfaces, more detail is in order10:01
RyanRTok so simply power off the laptop remove the thumbdrive and power her back up10:01
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: I'm connected to my own network, WIFI, and Ethernet.  192.168.2.*, and 192.168.0.*, I cannot ping on the non-default route10:01
cluelesspersonRyanRT: sure, try it. :P10:01
RyanRTwhy not right here we go sitting here with two laptops on my lap lol10:02
BluesKajwhat's your "non default route", cluelessperson ? This cryptic speak isn't getting us anywhere, enough with the techno babble10:04
cluelesspersondefault via 192.168.0.1 dev enp0s25  proto static  metric 10010:04
cluelesspersonping -I wlp4s0 192.168.0.1   fails10:04
cluelesspersonwlp4s0  is 192.168.2.2 subnet10:05
RyanRTWell that was easy, that was a rather foolish question in hindsight lol, I was just hesitant cause I had not held down the Control/alt key on this bloody macbook which brings it to the boot from drive menu10:05
RyanRTbut it must just default to that when theres a drive connected to the usb port10:06
BluesKajcluelessperson, looks like your gateway and ethernet, check /etc/resolv,conf10:06
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: huh?10:06
RyanRTThank you kindly for your assistance cluelessperson10:06
BluesKajdon't then10:07
BluesKajcluelessperson, the nameserver could be wrong, it's a bug10:09
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: ..10:11
BluesKajcluelessperson, it should read,  nameserver 127.0.0.5310:11
cluelessperson127.0.0.1:53 ?10:11
BluesKajyup10:11
BluesKajno nameserver 127.0.0.5310:11
BluesKajthere;'s no 1 there10:12
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: I'm not having a nameserver issue10:12
BluesKajhow do you know?10:12
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: wtf are you talking about10:13
cluelesspersonit's a routing issue10:13
* BluesKaj shrugs, ok nm, cluelessperson, then I guess you know the answer10:14
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: can you stop being an ass?10:14
BluesKajahh, now the insults begin...just making a suggestion10:15
BluesKajsorry for wasting your time, cluelessperson , I'm not here to trade insults10:16
cluelesspersonBluesKaj: No, you made a nonsensical suggestion, then were sarcastic when I said that it was nonsensical, effectively wasting my time10:16
cluelesspersonif you're going to play games, at least be funny10:16
JimBuntuI'll trade insults, but I don't trade fairly.10:17
chuMoving on now....10:17
BluesKaji have nothing more to say ...good luck cluelessperson10:18
JimBuntuTo the point, it sounds like you need to manually add a route to your tables, specifically that 192.168.x.x should go over the correct interface10:18
cluelesspersonJimBuntu: the issue is that this is a highly mobile machine, those routes and interfaces will changes often10:18
JimBuntuYou provided your IPs, but I don't remember seeing your netmask. Could the netmask be too wide?10:19
cluelesspersonJimBuntu: it's /24 per10:19
JimBuntuOk, shouldn't be the netmask then. I don't see it, may have missed it, did you post a pastebin of your routing config? i.e. route -n10:20
JimBuntuWait, were you pinging via a specific device that is NOT part of the network you were pinging?10:23
foo357Hello, I'm getting a very slow transfer speed when scp'ing data from host "B" to "A" . In the other direction (data from A to B) the speed is normal. (All transfers are initiated on host A). I've done a internet speed test on host "B" and the results are ok.10:44
foo357What I'm wondering is if there are some more checks I can do on host "B" to determine if anything is causing trouble, otherwise I guess the issue should lie in the network between the hosts.10:45
JimBuntufoo357, You say you have done internet speed tests on B, have you performed those speed tests using another server in the same area as A or only the 'fastest and closest possible" as most speedtests do by default?10:46
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foo357JimBuntu: Yes, I've done a couple internet speed tests, selecting a different servers.11:04
foo357JimBuntu: Network speeds to the internet is fine, the only thing I can see is not ok is network speed B --> A (the other direction is ok, A --> B)11:06
foo357JimBuntu: I guess maybe I should look into how I can diagnose the local network?11:06
pranavHi all, I was trying random command to upgrade python to 3.6 in ubuntu.11:09
pranavand for some reasons my "sudo add-apt-repository" command now always fails saying "sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/add-apt-repository: No such file or directory Hangup"11:10
pranavKindly help me guys, I am stuck since 3 hours now11:10
kalipsohey guys, we are using snap for lxd. it updated lxd 2.0 to lxd 3.0 which broke everything, how can i downgrade to lxd 2.0 using snap?11:11
peet1@pranav which ubuntu version11:14
pranav16.0411:16
pranavif i give complete path of command along with python3.5, then it works. otherwise all command fail11:16
pranavhow to fix it11:16
Ooldid you install software-properties-common  and python-software-properties  to have add-apt-repository ?11:18
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pranavOol: yes, i tried installing them, it says already installed11:19
pranavif i do "python3.5 /usr/bin/lsb_release -a" it works. "lsb_release -a" fails11:19
pranavi broke all apt commands and other commands in my server11:20
Ool:(11:21
Ooldid you broke it for all the users or just one ?11:21
Ool(create a new one and try)11:22
pranavit only have 2 users, ubuntu and root11:22
JimBuntuRunning random commands is bad.11:22
elkhello11:23
elkhello11:23
elkanyone there?11:23
JimBuntuelk, there are 1613 "people" that are not here11:23
BluesKajelk, juat ask your question11:24
elkhow to use proxychains on ubuntu11:24
elki got weird error. it just closes the terminal11:25
elkafter following the steps from online article11:25
elkdoes anyone know?11:25
tsgloveelk hello11:26
oerhekselk, without your ubuntu version, what guide you followed, how could we know?11:26
tsgloveI' m not sure11:26
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turbo64is there a way to disable that annoying program not responding popup in gnome11:27
tsgloveGuys, I dd copied my 250gb ssd to a new 1tb ssd.  The original 250 had xubuntu installed with full disk LUKS encryption.  Now, the 1tb boots as it should, yet I have failed to "expand"  the size.   I was able to expand the partition where the luks crypt resides, yet I was unable to expand the luks crypt itself once un-encrypted.11:28
tsgloveAny thoughts? I am trying not to have to re-install the entire OS on this new 1tb ssd.11:28
pranavI fixed it. looks like when i pasted some random command from stackoverflow. it deleted my symlink /usr/bin/python311:30
pranavrecreated it to point to correct python3.511:30
pranavnow able to run all commanda again. thanks guys.. my bad11:30
Ooltsglove: I never try it but it's seems possible to resize a LUKS11:30
Oolbut perhaps it's quicky to reinstall your computer :|11:31
Oolhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions11:31
tsgloveOol, yeah I know!  Yet last night I hammered it about two hours until I gave up and went to sleep.11:31
tsglovechecking that link out now...11:31
tsgloveOol, ohh nice I didn't see that one last night.  I did see a LOT of pages... yet... couldn't get it to work.   I have the original 250GB ssd unplugged, which is my backup.11:32
tsgloveAmazingly, doing dd with bs=128M moved all the data in less than an hour11:32
tsgloveor about an hour11:32
oerheksturbo64, disable apport >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/disable-error-reporting-ubuntu-1604/11:32
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hollusionhello12:01
EriC^^hi12:02
hollusioni set up a samba share, but the clients dont have permission to write on it. (server=ubuntu, client=linuxmint)12:02
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hateballhollusion: not an answer to your question, but why not just use NFS or sshfs if all machines are linux?12:03
hateballway less headache in my experience12:04
hollusionbecause the share needs to be accesible to windows clients12:04
hollusionmy bad :(12:04
hateball:)12:04
leftyfbhollusion: is the directory on your drive writable by whatever user samba runs as?12:20
leftyfbhollusion: also, linux mint isn't supported here12:20
leftyfbhollusion: thoug I guess it looks like you're running ubuntu as the samba server12:20
hollusionexactly, im checking permissions now12:21
netochkaHey all12:23
netochkaI want to reduce my keyboard backlite. I remember doing it once on terminal. and i could set it from 1 to 4 (or 3)12:24
hateballnetochka: xset led 312:26
netochkahateball. It seems that it doesn't change anything :/12:26
hateballnetochka: are you on wayland?12:27
netochkawayland? is that a distro?12:27
hateballI dont know if xset works if you do12:27
saurabhdisplay server12:28
hateballnetochka: no, a display server12:28
netochkai tried sxet led off and it definitely doesn't effect anything12:28
hateballiirc 17.10 + gnome is wayland by default?12:28
saurabhyup12:28
* hateball runs kubuntu + nvidia blob so wayland is out of the question12:28
netochkahateball, i assume i have to say no.12:28
netochkai'm using ubuntu 16.04 lts on asus zenbook. donno if that answers your q12:29
hateballyeah that should not be running wayland by default12:29
netochkai remember finding a command in forums. but now i can't find that topic12:30
hateballnetochka: googling gives https://askubuntu.com/questions/644410/cannot-turn-on-keyboard-backlight12:30
hateballnot sure if applicable to you12:30
netochkahateball, YES! that is the one. Ty12:31
hateballnetochka: :)12:31
confluencyIIRC you can choose at login whether you want GNOME + Wayland or GNOME + Xorg.12:34
confluency(I upgraded and I use a completely different WM, so I have no idea what a clean install does.)12:34
saurabhby default ubuntu will start in wayland, you have to select Xorg from the gears menu if you want to start with different display server12:39
netochkasaurabh, where in settings exactly?12:47
saurabhon your login screen12:47
saurabhnot sure how it is 16.0412:48
netochkaoh i see. the drop menu next to password box?12:48
saurabhyup12:48
netochkayea i don't have that. but i know what u mean.12:48
netochkahad it on xubuntu i think12:48
maunixHi All. I messup with upgrading my linux from 14.04 to 17.10... i did that by editing the sources.list, doing and apt-get update and then and apt-get upgrade. The problem is that now I have a lot of missing files or files that wont get installed because of those missing files.  Googling gave me a lot of answers but none worked.  The most significant problem is that i have errors of ldconfig not found and12:49
maunixlocales broken.  The paths are OK. Any hints?12:49
maunixmay be installing that manually or something like that but using aptitude or apt-get  or dpkg doesnt work at all.12:49
maunixI have it installed on a 32-bit netbook , using the i386 repositories.12:50
akikmaunix: i don't think you upgrade ubuntu that way. where did you find that guidance?12:50
slidinghornmaunix: that's definitely not the recommended upgrade path...unfortunately I personally don't have any clue how to fix something like that.  Does  apt -f install  do anything helpful?12:50
EriC^^maunix: reinstall time12:50
* slidinghorn agrees with EriC^^ 12:51
maunixEriC^^: i should get off my home folder then12:51
maunixi mean copy it to a pendrive.12:52
EriC^^maunix: yeah, maybe copy the list of installed packages too12:52
maunixits a simple installation, only lxde, firefox and libreoffice. not much else.12:53
EriC^^alright cool12:53
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CheetahPixieokay13:13
CheetahPixiei have an actual question13:14
CheetahPixiethe compression function in ubuntu caches on the local partition13:14
CheetahPixieis there any way i can make it cache elsewhere, like at the target?13:14
CheetahPixiethis is preventing many hundred gigabytes of files from being compressed13:14
blackflowCheetahPixie: compression function? Which one?13:17
CheetahPixieblackflow: in the right click menu13:18
blackflowCheetahPixie: oh the file manager. Well I guess it's simplified for frequent use case. If you need advanced compression functionality, you can always descend to the command line and use zip, or tar.13:19
CheetahPixieI want to use 7zip to compress hard disk images13:19
CheetahPixiethought it was something in 7zip caching on /13:20
CheetahPixienot sure; dumping another image atm13:20
hollusionleftyfb, it was exactly what you thought13:21
hollusionchown fixed the problem, thank you13:21
CheetahPixieit's always refreshing to see cases solved like this13:22
chriysmorning13:25
chriysI'm runing a php command in my terminal and I get this error: Locale not installed13:25
blackflowchriys: which locale specifically? you can enable them with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales13:26
pragmaticenigmachriys, are you able to run other PHP scripts in the terminal?13:26
iamvainHi, I'm trying to automate the install if ubuntu server 16.04, so far I have succeeded, but I can't find the `preseed` option that would let me stop the installer from trying to update the system13:27
chriysyeah13:27
pragmaticenigmachriys, if you are able to run other PHP scripts with out any issue. Then your issue is the PHP script which we cannot support. You will need to contact the author of that PHP script for help13:28
chriysok thanks13:29
blackflowchriys: I've seen that a lot. PHP using setlocale() for a specific locale, you just need to find out what it was and enable it with dpkg-reconfigure.13:29
dannaxHi!, it seems like ve.archive.ubuntu.com is not working properly anymore13:30
pragmaticenigmadannax, What version of Ubuntu are you running?13:30
dannax@pragmaticenigma 17.10 server and desktop, also running lubuntu desktop on a different machine.13:33
pragmaticenigmaare you able to reach the site manually by typing it into your web browser?13:34
pragmaticenigmadannax, are you able to reach the site manually by typing it into your web browser?13:34
dannaxpragmaticenigma, yes, but it takes a while13:36
pragmaticenigmadannax, I can access it from my location without issue no perceivable latency. I would offer that your ISP may be experiencing some issues, or your region is having general congestion issues, in either case it will likely correct itself13:38
s10gopalanyone facing battery drain when  laptop is powered off ?13:38
dannaxpragmaticenigma, I thought it might be a temporary issue, I'm reporting it right now after few days using it, there is a 50/50 chance to connect to the server13:40
pragmaticenigmadannax, I would contact your ISP then. There are no issues being reported elsewhere13:40
pragmaticenigmadannax, the other thing to consider is trying a different DNS provider13:41
dannaxpragmaticenigma, I'll try. thanks13:42
pragmaticenigmas10gopal, If you are having power drain issues when the computer is powered off, you will need to contact your computer manufacture or an authorized repair center.13:42
s10gopalpragmaticenigma: i am asking that because it is bug , and if more users test it , it can be solved easily https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/174564613:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1745646 in linux (Ubuntu Artful) "Battery drains when laptop is off (shutdown)" [Medium,In progress]13:44
metRo_can anyone help me why my disk access slowdown after start firefox?13:45
pragmaticenigmas10gopal, cross posting is against the code of conduct for this channel. You have registered a bug with launchpad, you will have to wait until they work on it and determine a solution.13:46
leeyaahi13:47
leeyaadoes anyone know how to workaround this error when trying to start NFS: nfs-server.service: Job nfs-server.service/start failed with result 'dependency'13:47
leeyaausing latest xenial13:48
leeyaastruggling for a few hours now ;p13:48
leftyfbs10gopal: you have been asking in here for 3 months. Please stop. There's a bug. It will get noticed by developers. None of which are in this channel.13:48
gareppaif i use full disk encryption and my linux installation gets corrupted, can i access the disk with some live distro?13:49
leftyfbgareppa: yes, using cryptsetup ... if the encryption headers didn't get corrupted13:50
Bu4nkaHey guys, anyone willing to help me with some internal hd mounting problems please?13:51
hateball!ask | Bu4nka13:52
ubottuBu4nka: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:52
leftyfbs10gopal: in fact, you have jsalisbury who just posted progress on your bug less than 24 hours ago. He's one of the lead kernel developers for Ubuntu. you REALLY need to learn patience.13:52
s10gopalleftyfb: a user here was also facing the same issue , i am finding him.13:53
leftyfbs10gopal: doesn't matter. You have one of the top ubuntu kernel team members on it. There's nothing to do be done further in this channel13:53
Bu4nkaso i got a dual boot for windows and ubuntu on separate hd's. them i got another hd with three ntfs partitions. I used to be able to access every partition and disk from both systems. i took the disks out of the pc and out them back in, same order in connections and now in Ubuntu when i try to access any of the ntfs disk i get this message:13:55
Bu4nkaError mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/k/9CDC8477DC844D88: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sda1" "/media/k/9CDC8477DC844D88"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.13:55
Bu4nkaFailed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted13:55
Bu4nkaThe NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown13:55
Bu4nkaWindows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume13:55
Bu4nkaread-only with the 'ro' mount option.13:55
slidinghorn!paste > Bu4nka13:56
ubottuBu4nka, please see my private message13:56
s10gopalleftyfb: why Rafael is not trusting the git bisect result ?13:56
leeyaahm why would mount complain for missing module13:56
leeyaais there any difference between nfs and nfsd ?13:56
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leftyfbs10gopal: again, not only do I not know what you're talking about, please take further discussion to the bug report itself or in #ubuntu-kernel13:57
hateballBu4nka: Is this Windows 10? If so you may need to disable "fast boot" as it doesnt properly unmount the partitions in Windows, that's why Ubuntu puts it in read-only13:57
Bu4nkahateball: No, win 8.113:58
Menzador(the same applies, the feature was first included in Windows 8(.0))13:59
Bu4nkadisable fast boot in BIOS?14:00
hateballBu4nka: No, it's a setting in Windows14:00
MenzadorIn the Power Options control panel14:00
Menzadoruncheck "Enable fast startup"14:00
Bu4nkaand this affects the ubuntu access to these disks?14:00
hateballBu4nka: Yes, because Windows doesnt fully shutdown which leaves the partitions in a "dirty" state14:01
s10gopalhateball: press f10+ A then you will be in advance bios options14:02
Bu4nkaok. thanks im gonna try it and ill be back! just one question, whats the command to reply with someone's nick in the beggining like u guys do?14:02
hateball!tab | Bu4nka14:03
ubottuBu4nka: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.14:03
jerichowasahoaxBu4nka: type the first few characters of their nick then press tab, usually14:03
Bu4nkaubottu: ;) Thanks, it's been more than a few years since i last been on irc14:03
ubottuBu4nka: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:03
saurabh^oh no, this bot is a nihilist14:05
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BuankaDisks working perfect, thanx a lot guys!14:18
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fairuzHi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and trying to install unixodbc-dev. But I got Depends: unixodbc (= 2.2.14p2-5ubuntu5) error. Any hints to fix this? Thanks (full output when installing is here https://pastebin.com/p4vv4M0u)14:20
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CoolerZhow do i update to the latest gcc?14:21
CoolerZgcc (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9) 5.4.0 2016060914:21
CoolerZright now thats installed14:21
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slidinghorn!latest | CoolerZ14:22
ubottuCoolerZ: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:22
Bu4nkaHeu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre?14:23
Humatielfairuz: normally that is caused by non-standard repositories being enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list14:23
CoolerZslidinghorn, version 5 is pretty fricking old14:24
fairuzHumatiel That is correct. I'm using DigitalOcean, so they have their own mirror in sources.list14:24
CoolerZhow do i get the latest?14:24
slidinghornCoolerZ: well you have the version that came with an Ubuntu LTS that came out 4 years ago, so that's probably to be expected.  There's the possibility of upgrading to 16.04 to see if its version is more up-to-speed for you, or, you could build it from source, however, that is likely to cause problems.14:25
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, Updating to a more recent version Ubuntu is one way to get a more updated version of GCC. Also, is there something in particular about the newer release of gcc that your project requires?14:27
slidinghornCoolerZ: actually, I'm mixing your message with fairuz's, my mistake14:27
geirhafairuz: apt-cache policy unixodbc-dev unixodbc odbcinst1debian214:27
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leftyfbCoolerZ: is there a specific reason you need it?14:27
CoolerZyes14:27
asira14:27
CoolerZso do i have to switch to debian?14:28
leftyfbCoolerZ: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test14:28
CoolerZor whichever actually updates their packages14:28
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, can you be more specific as to what you are looking for in the updated gcc version?14:28
CoolerZpragmaticenigma, that wasn't my question14:28
fairuzgeirha https://pastebin.com/8NtVTmUT14:28
fairuzthanks14:29
HumatielCoolerZ: if your looking for "bleeding-edge" then Ubuntu LTS is not the right distro for the job. The goal is stability and security.14:29
CoolerZHumatiel, ok so debian then?14:29
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, This wasn't your question? [16:21] <CoolerZ> how do i update to the latest gcc?14:30
geirhafairuz: so you have two of the packages from some microsoft repo, but the dev one is only from the regular repos14:30
slidinghornCoolerZ: well, responding to one of the multiple people asking what you need from a newer gcc version would be helpful - also Debian is likely to be even further behind14:30
CoolerZslidinghorn, no14:31
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, We are asking what you are looking for in the updated version, because there is chance the package maintainers may have backported a bug fix, security patch, or feature14:31
Bu4nkaHeu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre? its been happening for the last few days..14:32
hollusionfor a windows client connecting to a samba share on ubuntu it shouldnt be an issue that the data is stored on a ext4 partition, right?14:32
leftyfbBu4nka: what version of ubuntu? What desktop environment? (default, Unity?)14:32
leftyfbhollusion: correc14:32
leftyfbhollusion: correct14:32
hollusionthank you14:33
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, if we know what you are specifically looking for, we can help. Otherwise, we are limited to supporting only the packages that are provided in the package repositories.14:33
Bu4nkaleftyfb:  ubuntu 16.04 LTS default environment14:33
CoolerZpragmaticenigma, i am looking for printf_s14:33
fairuzgeirha oh ok. Hmm14:35
geirhafairuz: if you downgrade the two packages, you'd be able to install that dev package, but there may be a reason the microsoft repo doesn't have it. Perhaps it simply includes the header files with the "regular" package14:36
leftyfbBu4nka: what happens when you run "gnome-software" from the command line?14:36
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, I cannot find any documentation on that function. The only item that shows up in my search is: The gcc compiler doesn't support those optional "safe" functions, you'll need to use the normal standard functions like printf(). I don't know if gcc ever intends on supporting those optional functions, unless actually required by a future standard.14:36
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ, according to the documentation these are the only supported print function: https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Formatted-Output-Functions.html14:38
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fairuzgeirha I can try to downgrade those packages if it may help14:39
Buankaleftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3zmBwJm5F/14:41
fairuzgeirha I managed to install the dev package. Let see if this thing works. :)14:42
styx-tdohi, can someone help me w/ apt-pinning? I have pined, prio 1001, but apt still does install the other version.14:45
styx-tdo.. ok. it is too late for me. - issue was the * in front of the _installed_ package14:47
BuankaHeu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre? its been happening for the last few days.. running ubuntu 16.04 LTS default environment . when i go to the terminal to open it i get this:   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3zmBwJm5F/14:50
rich_real life?14:50
leftyfbrich_: can we help you with something?14:52
blingrang!ppa14:52
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:52
slidinghorn!patience > Buanka14:52
ubottuBuanka, please see my private message14:52
blingrang!patience | blingrang14:52
ubottublingrang, please see my private message14:52
rich_somes ubusntos not work with old pc14:53
leftyfbrich_: can you be more specific?14:53
rich_I have a Pentium 4 . but I cant install las ubuntu.14:54
leftyfbrich_: what is "las ubuntu"?14:56
rich_sorry, last Ubuntu,14:56
leftyfbrich_: which version exactly?14:56
tgm4883!details | rich_14:56
ubotturich_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.14:56
rich_I installed ubuntu mate.14:56
leftyfbrich_: which version?14:57
rich_let me see14:57
leftyfbrich_: cat /etc/issue14:58
slidinghornBuanka: A lot of the results I'm seeing from searching similar problems suggest the following may help:   sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade15:00
rich_Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS15:02
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leftyfbrich_: what error do you get when you try to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04.3?15:03
tgm4883rich_: You're not charged by the word count. What exactly is the problem, because "I cant install las ubuntu." and "I installed ubuntu mate." aren't exactly compatible.15:04
rich_thnaks Lftyfb!!15:05
rich_I must go. we see again. bye15:09
Buankaslidinghorn: Didnt help. also tried killing the process and restart it to no avail15:11
TheGrumpyScotQ. NFS mount which mounted successfully cannot be unmounted, reports "/path/to/mountpoint" was not found in /proc/mounts ... OS is 12.04.5 - How do I umount said mount point ?15:12
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, where is the device mounted to? Is there any application current accessing a file within the mounted folder15:13
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: No apps using said mount point or files within it - and it's mounted into a blank folder created in my ~15:14
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, can you explain "blank" folder.. Do you mean empty directory?15:15
slidinghornBuanka: do you have any PPAs enabled?15:15
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: yes blank folder / empty directory15:15
Buankaslidinghorn: yes15:16
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, thanks for clarifying15:16
slidinghornBuanka: please pastebin your sources.list15:16
Buankaslidinghorn: how do i find it?15:17
slidinghornBuanka: oh, sorry:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit15:17
slidinghornBuanka: also, check to see if there are any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    if so, pastebin those, as well :)15:20
Buankaslidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtWd2fQVj2/15:20
slidinghornBuanka: one thing I'm seeing off the bat is that you have a repository from a different release enabled, which *probably* isn't the issue, but isn't a good thing.15:23
Buankaslidinghorn: which one?15:23
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, can you post us the link to the results of "df | pastebinit"15:23
Buankaslidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C4BNVg2Xnp/15:24
slidinghornthe last one (grive-tools) - it's for Vivid, and you're running Xenial15:24
yosefHello I am Trying to download Updates and updating the cache but no luck. also say there is no release file. anyone can help,Thanks.15:24
slidinghornBuanka: (also, that particular PPA hasn't been updated in over 3 years...)15:25
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: https://node86.com/pastebin/gp68f15:25
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, And "sudo umount /home/alan/mp" does not unmount the folder?15:27
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TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: no, running umount via sudo or as root produces exactly the same response; ie not found in /proc/mounts15:28
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: and nothing in /etc/fstab is referencing wither the share or the new mount point - this is simply me testing the share in my home space prior to running on production boxes15:29
Buankaslidinghorn: which ppa?15:29
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, fstab is only for permanent mounts for booting. /etc/mtab is where user mounts exist... I think I found a option, is this shared folder samba?15:30
slidinghornBuanka: the grive-tools ppa (the last one listed in your sources.list you posted)15:30
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: no, it's ans nfs mount, not samba - so listed in /etc/exports on the remote (.23)15:31
Buankaslidinghorn: checked it off the list, updated cache but still a no go15:33
topi`is there an easy way to upgrade from Trusty to Utopic? I g want to upgrade to newest LTS, but probably can't do it without increments?15:33
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, by any chance is the remote host of the share been powered down or disconnected from the network?15:33
topi`would it be possible to upgrade from trusty LTS to xenial LTS?15:34
nacctopi`: yes15:34
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: Nope, the share was created on the remote just prior to mounting locally, both servers have not lost power or connectivity15:34
slidinghornBuanka: This is an aside to the issue we're dealing with, but I would suggest fully uninstalling grive-tools and instead using gnome-control-center and gnome-online-accounts for your Google Drive account (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/use-google-drive-ubuntu-16-04-linux-desktops)15:34
topi`nacc: is there a CLI tool for doing these upgrades?15:35
slidinghornBuanka: was there anything in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory?15:35
nacctopi`: yes, do-release-upgrade15:35
topi`ok, thanks15:35
nacctopi`: yw15:35
Buankaslidinghorn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gT9shJbSDS/15:36
TheGrumpyScotpragmaticenigma: used `sudo umount -lf ~alan/mp` .. seems to have done the trick; guess it just needed a bit of a hint in the right direction. Thanks for the help15:36
pragmaticenigmaTheGrumpyScot, glad I could do what I could. I'll look up that command for my references. thank you15:38
bray90820_How is the support for appls magic mouse15:41
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, As long as the device adheres to industry standards, it will behave like a mouse. Some features of the mouse may require additional configuration to enable. In short, it should just work15:43
bray90820_I know the mouse will work but how is the multi touch support15:43
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, did you read my entire message?15:44
tgm4883This is the wrong forum to solicit hardware recommendations15:44
bray90820_Yes I did you said may require I was wondering how it was out of the box15:45
krytarikThat's what the Live images are for - to test things.15:46
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, out of the box, the mouse will work like a mouse... additional features may require configuration to enable them. The key word is may... there is no way for us to know with certainty what the outcome will be15:47
bray90820_If someon owns one they can15:47
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, that falls in the scope of hardware recommendations, which this is not the channel for that15:48
bray90820_What is the channel for that then15:48
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, Support of the Ubuntu Operating system. You can take your question to /join #ubuntu-offtopic and you may find an answer there15:49
bray90820_Thanks15:50
krytarikbray90820_: More like ##hardware - but I slightly disagree with that notion, because it's also distro-dependent.15:50
bray90820_krytarik: Thanks for understanding the distro dependincy15:51
pinemore@search pain killer15:53
leftyfbpinemore: can we help you with something?15:54
leftyfbpinemore: https://www.google.com/maps/search/drug+store+Tonal%C3%A1/@20.6381497,-103.2903945,12z/data=!3m1!4b115:55
adalbertchateau migraine?15:56
pragmaticenigmabray90820_, A way to think of this channel is if you had the mouse and it wasn't work, we could help get it up and running. Without having the mouse, we can't troubleshoot and cannot predict if your system will have any issues. Sometimes a device will work out of the box right away for one person, and not work for another. There are too many potential outcomes which is why we stick to fixing after the fact.15:56
krytarikadalbert: LOL :D15:56
BMO-noirecould someone please give me an example for updating and installing applications through parallel-ssh? the following is from the man page and works for echo, but I can't seem to adapt it for apt-get: parallel-ssh -i -h .pssh_hosts_files -A -l root echo hi15:58
tyamurHi people16:22
tyamurHwo is this?16:23
slidinghorntyamur: do you have an ubuntu support question?16:24
tyamuryes16:24
rflemingHow does one go about figuring out the size of a sector based on CHS?16:26
EriC^^rfleming: there's a formula for it online somewhere16:27
rflemingyeah, I'm looking... so CHS shows S is 63 (which seems typical)16:27
rflemingEriC^^: Found http://www.deathwombat.com/diskgeometry.html16:28
rflemingmeh, won't take my number of cylinders :)16:28
tyamurI,m instaled ubuntu liveusb with usbdisk.16:30
tyamurdmesg print load more text. print usb disconnect. after squs.fs read error.16:30
EriC^^tyamur: sounds like the usb is messed up16:30
rflemingbytes per sector is typically 512 yes?16:31
tyamurI,m engleesh bad lern((16:31
tyamurwhy16:32
EriC^^rfleming: yeah or 409616:34
slidinghorntyamur: if English is difficult for you, there are support channels for several different languages.  What is your native language?16:35
tyamurrussian. but ubuntu-ru registration no.16:37
AnthaasWhat is the filesystem order again? UGO?16:37
Anthaaspermission order*16:37
akik!permissions | Anthaas16:38
ubottuAnthaas: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions16:38
naccAnthaas: but yes, that is the order emitted by ls16:38
AnthaasThought so - thanks.16:39
naccAnthaas: yw16:39
AnthaasIm having an issue - its not permission related (any more)16:39
AnthaasI am mounting Google Drive on boot, and then running feh on said folder.16:39
AnthaasI have added the command to mount the folder to the bottom of my .profile, and the feh command beneath that16:40
AnthaasDoesn't seem to run feh though, but the folder _is_ mounted.16:40
akikAnthaas: .profile is read when you login16:41
AnthaasWhich is what I want, I think?16:42
AnthaasI want it to boot into this feh command.16:42
AnthaasIs it possible that it is too soon?16:42
ducasseAnthaas: what does the feh command do?16:42
Anthaasducasse: Its an image viewing tool.16:42
AnthaasIt loads a folder of images into a slideshow.16:43
ducassei know, but then it requires access to your x session16:43
AnthaasCorrect.16:44
AnthaasI've just read an error I missed - it would appear that x session isnt running by the time the command is run16:44
ducassethen you should run it from ~/.xsessionrc, not .profile16:45
Anthaasahhhh16:45
Anthaasducasse: Is that a file I can just create, and start adding commands to, or is there some mandatory predefined structure to it?16:47
ducasseAnthaas: just create it16:48
Anthaasducasse: Ok, I did that, moved the commands in there, and they weren't run.16:49
AnthaasNeither of them.16:49
Anthaas(after rebooting)16:49
ducasseit definitely should work, which release is this?16:51
EriC^^Anthaas: why dont you use startup apps?16:52
DuncanTCan anybody point me at an example source package which is just packaging an upstream binary build please? I'm trying to create a PPA of an upstream that only releases binaries and I'm struggling17:17
kostkonDuncanT, why not go the snap way?17:17
DuncanTkostkon: Trying to fit into an existing workflow that uses debs17:18
kostkonDuncanT, ok17:18
DuncanTkostkon: I'll consider releasing snaps as well, but I'd like to get debs first, it should be the path of least resistance17:18
kostkon!packaging17:19
ubottuThe packaging guide is at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring17:19
atlas1ls17:20
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DuncanTkostkon: I've read that, at length. I'm struggling construct a rules file that just sucks the binary out of a tarball17:21
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neuthralsorry to post this here but it's important, dont watch if you have a weak stomach. otherwise share so something can be done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0bF-PFpFI17:34
neuthral#PureEvil17:34
pragmaticenigmaneuthral, This is a support channel for Ubuntu only. Do not post non-support related materials17:35
oerheksnot welcome here, neuthral17:35
Fjorgynn:(17:36
oerheksneuthral, please leave17:36
Fjorgynn:S17:36
pragmaticenigmaso now we need flood ?17:37
Sven_vBI'd like to try whether investing more CPU will reduce latency on my bluetooth audio link. would I need to renice vlc, pulseaudio, some bluetooth process, or a combination thereof?17:38
Sven_vB(it's accumulated latency resulting from short gaps)17:38
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pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, the words spoken no longer sync with the video in the media file?17:39
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, exactly.17:39
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, I'm not sure if renicing a process would fix that... as it could be the radio chip that introduces that latency17:40
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, it resets when I switch the sound sink mode to "off" and then "a2dp" (or similar) again, but every few minutes there's a gap17:40
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, do you have any other BT devices paired with the computer?17:40
Sven_vBnope17:40
Sven_vBoh I do, but they're not connected17:41
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, maybe try removing those device pairings? If the gap occurs at a regular interval, I'd suspect that the BT controller is searching for the other devices and it has mode switch the radio from a2dp and back to do the search17:42
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MWMI just did a fresh install of Budgie 17.10 and I cant seem to start a web browser except with "sudo firefox"17:44
Sven_vBI'll have to read up on how that scanning and handshake works. I'm still optimistic about the priority though, since I can provoke audio gaps by running apt.17:44
pragmaticenigmaMWM, did you run a command simialr to "sudo chmod root" recently?17:44
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, I did find this... haven't read all the way through but might be promising17:45
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, https://askubuntu.com/a/17116517:45
MWMI havent done anything like that.  Fresh install of the whole OS and a fresh install of Firefox.  Built in browser was acting up also... thats why I installed firefox17:45
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, thanks!17:45
MWMI would just try to dig around an chown the firefox directory but I am not sure if that would mess something else up17:46
pragmaticenigmaMWM, Where did you get your Ubuntu disk image for installation? Was it from the official Ubuntu site ubuntu.com?17:46
pragmaticenigmaMWM, what does "whereis firefox" report?17:47
MWMhttps://ubuntubudgie.org/downloads  <--not exactly ubuntu.com but still the official source I believe17:47
oerheksMWM, just remove the .mozilla folder, that would reset17:47
MWMwhereis firefox returns "/usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /etc/firefox" and another entry for the manpage17:49
pragmaticenigmaMWM, try going to your home folder and moving the folder ".mozilla" to ".mozilla.backup" and see if firefox runs17:49
pragmaticenigmaMWM, "mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup"17:50
MWMsame issue after mv .mozilla17:50
MWMLet me be more clear.  When I run firefox from the GUI it *does* open but with only a black screen17:51
MWMwhen I use "sude firefox" the browser works normally17:51
MWM* err sudo ...not sude :D17:52
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, … however I couldn't find a solution there. the script that switches the audio mode would just automate the clicking, but I'd still have to pause every few minutes. that's especially bad because the switch to off has the same delay as audio playback, and then my headphones need about 2 seconds to switch from off to a2dp again.17:52
brainwashMWM: what output does firefox give you when started from a terminal window?17:53
Sven_vBmight there be a way to configure bluetooth audio to never accumulate delays, but instead just discard fragments that couldn't be transmitted quickly enough?17:54
MWMthere is no output.  The web broswer just opens17:55
Sven_vBMWM, have you tried running firefox with a different $HOME directory, and thus a new clean profile?17:56
MWMdo you mean from a differen user?  The best I can do there is logout and log back in.  I am the only user on this rig17:57
crimson_kingMWM, about:profiles17:59
pragmaticenigmaMWM, you can create a new user to test with18:00
MWMWell gents, I restarted the machine to see if that would make a difference and now my RDP client is being an ass.  I will have to check back with you later.18:01
MWMAtleast I can fix the network issue, if not as quick as I would like.  Thanks for the help :D18:01
Sven_vBin htop there are lots of vlc processes that ps can't see? e.g. there's 24372 in the PID column but "ps --no-header u 24372" gives no output and exit status 118:02
Sven_vBare those really PIDs? are they processes?18:03
davegarathHi, I'm trying to user get_or_create(**mydict) where mydict is populated with some fields. If I run this I have got duplicated lines if a filed ( that is not contained into mydic ) are already populated18:04
pragmaticenigmadavegarath, is this for Python?18:04
davegarathoh damn sorry18:04
Buankaslidinghorn: u still around? i got grive out of the system like u sugested18:05
davegarathI thinking to be on #jango18:05
pragmaticenigmadavegarath, not quite, close though... (side bar, I think you have a pass by reference issue)18:05
julioBoa tarde a todos18:12
leftyfb!br | julio18:13
ubottujulio: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em portuguĂªs. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguĂªsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.18:13
realiestrying to install oracle-java8 but... https://dpaste.de/hwm5/raw18:20
leftyfbrealies: that would mean it's not available anymore18:21
realiesleftyfb, oh boi :)18:22
lotuspsychje!java | realies18:22
ubotturealies: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.18:22
leftyfbrealies: you're trying to install using oracle-java8-installer ?18:22
realieswonder why loading the url in the browser downloads it then18:22
realiesyes18:22
pragmaticenigmarealies, the first URL that is used no longer works and redirects... those redirects land at a page informing a person that you have a liscense to download from that location18:25
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realiesyou are wrong18:25
lotuspsychjerealies: volunteers trying to help you here18:26
pragmaticenigmarealies, I'm trying to help you and I just attempted to use the url http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u161-b12/2f38c3b165be4555a1fa6e98c45e0808/jdk-8u161-linux-x64.tar.gz that was listed first. It landed me here http://download.oracle.com/errors/download-fail-1505220.html18:27
realiessure, although upon my first attempt, copying that url to the browser would start the download18:28
realieshttp://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u161-b12/2f38c3b165be4555a1fa6e98c45e0808/jdk-8u161-linux-x64.tar.gz?AuthParam=1523988970_e1fa655fc06b14a6ef30f282fa90515118:28
lotuspsychjerealies: why dont you download java8 from the ubuntu repos exactly>?18:28
realiesit does not respond assuming because it has been used already18:28
realieslotuspsychje, because oracle java is not as the java from the repo18:28
scenick_Hello All, I wonder whethere anyone succeeded installing Ubuntu on Acer Aspire 14. I did. It was pain. I used refind. And possibly the target solution was placing shims and certs to Microsoft folder on mmcblk0p1 partition under EFI/Microsoft folder. Just to let You know. Regards18:29
Vic2In which package is dig for 16.04?18:30
Wulfscenick_: I've got different acer (travelmate something). It was pretty easy. With a recent kernel.18:30
WulfVic2: dnsutils18:30
Vic2ty Wulf18:31
lotuspsychjerealies: contact the maintainer of the oracle repo perhaps?18:31
Sven_vBmaybe a screenshot helps: what are those numbers in the PID column? if they're PIDs, why can't ps see them? https://abload.de/img/htop-vlc-pids-mvu13.jpeg18:31
pragmaticenigmaSven_vB, not sure why all those processes are started with VLC... seems like something might be wrong with VLC18:33
Sven_vBpragmaticenigma, so if those are processes, why can't I see them in ps?18:34
adalbertSven_vB: because they are child processes.18:34
naccSven_vB: what parameters are you passing to ps?18:35
Sven_vBnacc, ps --no-headers u 28057 28069 28070 28072 28073 28090 28091 28108 28380 28388 28389 28390 28391 28392 2839318:36
naccSven_vB: try `ps -aux`18:36
naccSven_vB: err, 'aux'18:36
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Sven_vBnacc, "ps aux | grep vlc" gives 3 lines: the main process, the grep and "sven     28061  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        ZN   20:21   0:00 [vlc-unixsock-cm] <defunct>"18:38
pragmaticenigmarealies, Oracle is employing a requirement that you accept their liscense agreement when downloading. The URL is auto generated after you accept. You have a short amount of time between getting that URL and downloading the file. Oracle intends for you to accept and download the JDK from their website using a web browser. We cannot provide any further help as we can only support packaged software from Ubuntu's18:39
pragmaticenigmasoftware repos. For further help, you will need to reach out to the Java community18:39
Sven_vBadalbert, is there a flag to show the subprocesses as well?18:39
naccSven_vB: try `ps -eLf`18:39
naccSven_vB: that shows threads18:39
Sven_vBnacc, again 3 lines: main vlc, grep and "1 Z sven     28061 28057  0  90  10 -     0 exit       0   0 20:21 ?        00:00:00 [vlc-unixsock-cm] <defunct>18:40
Sven_vB"18:40
Sven_vBsorry I misread the letter case18:43
Scenick Hello, I would like to ask question. I'm unsure where should be the better place than here. I bought Acer Aspire ES 14. Default installation were Windows. I decided to put Linux on that machine. However default install of Linux Ubuntu 18.04 failed. Wrote: cannot find bootable device. So I experimented a bit and found that refind & possibly putting shmi & certs in first partition of mmc brought it to booting. Is that possible?18:43
Sven_vBnacc, the numbers from htop now show up in the LWP column.18:44
EriC^^Scenick: is it a hybrid tablet kind of laptop?18:44
Sven_vBnacc, so are they lightweight processes?18:45
leftyfbScenick: didn't you just say you solved it and posted the solution?18:45
leftyfb20 minutes ago18:45
pragmaticenigma!bionic | Scenick18:45
ubottuScenick: Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) will be the 28th release of Ubuntu - Announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1518 - Discussion in #ubuntu+118:45
leftyfbScenick: also, just disable secureboot/EFI18:46
ScenickIt's kind of new notebook. EFI with default Secure Boot on. I turned SB off. ... I'm asking because I'm not sure about what solved the problem. It just started to boot eventually.18:46
akikScenick: for some acer laptops you need to add grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi as a allowed boot file in uefi18:46
ScenickDefault it didn't boot when placed in the default ubuntu installation folder.18:47
ScenickI think EFI/linux or EFI/ubuntu didn't work. Possibly it had to be placed in EFI/Microsoft18:47
ScenickWould be anyone interested in examining the partition?18:47
akikScenick: each distro creates its own directory, like EFI\ubuntu, EFI\fedora, EFI\opensuse18:48
Sven_vBnacc, seems like they are. thanks!18:48
EriC^^Scenick: some pc's are like that, they're hardwired to boot only microsoft efi files in those paths18:48
EriC^^Scenick: acer usually lets you 'trust' the efi file if you set an admin password for the bios you get the option to appear18:49
boblamontAny opinions on a good minimal web server (Lubuntu 17.10)? The (only) two things I want it to do are make a directory of audio files accessible via the web ( for playback on a web page hosted elsewhere) and to run a php page that does the simple task of taking a form input and writing it to a text file. Apache seems like overkill for this. I came across Cherokee, is that any good? I'd like to add as little overhead as possible in terms of18:49
ScenickEric> Good to know. Thanks.18:49
pragmaticenigmaboblamont, please take your question to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is for support questions only18:49
leftyfbboblamont: to start with, run ubuntu server. Not Lubuntu18:50
oerhekspragmaticenigma, send him to #ubuntu-server18:50
pragmaticenigmaoerheks, they're not asking a support question, they are looking for opinion18:51
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adalbertjust a question about grep, you know grep -v "parameter" will invert the grep result, but how can I add more parameters in a single grep? For now I'm doing : cat file1 | grep -v "data" | grep -v "test"19:00
EriC^^adalbert: grep -vE "data|test"19:00
akikadalbert: grep -v -e "data1" -e "data2"19:00
adalbertah thnx! i was looking for that.19:00
leftyfbor egrep19:00
adalbert(Y)19:00
naccSven_vB: right they are threads19:04
omarvHi all, I have ubuntu 18 installed, by now have a problem starting up,, could someone help me ? thns  a lot19:19
kostkon!ubuntu+1 | omarv19:19
ubottuomarv: Bionic Beaver is the codename for Ubuntu 18.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+119:19
omarvok thanks19:20
tsgloveCan I use LUKS to encrypt a single directory?  Everything I am reading has info on how to encrypt and entire partition.19:22
pragmaticenigmatsglove, that is because LUKS is to encrypt on the partition level, not directory19:22
piterkeI'm looking for a friend  diogenes19:22
pragmaticenigmatsglove, the tool more appropriate for your needs is encryptfs19:23
pragmaticenigmatsglove, for more information and recommendations see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems19:23
tsglovepragmaticenigma, nice! On my way to check that out.19:23
pragmaticenigmayour welcome tsglove19:23
pragmaticenigmapiterke, this is a support channel. please limit your questions to Ubuntu support related topics. For other topics and questions please see /join #ubuntu-offtopic19:24
realiesoracle-java8-installer tries to install 8u161, but in oracle's website there's only 8u171 and 8u172 for download19:26
realieshalp19:26
pragmaticenigmarealies, as you were told earlier, we do not support software not obtained through Ubuntu software repositories19:27
pragmaticenigmarealies, you will have to find a java community for help19:27
mzuverinkrealies, rtfm at oracle, its not our kungfu here19:27
pragmaticenigma!language | mzuverink19:28
ubottumzuverink: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:28
realiesi guess i need to find nilarimogard19:28
akikrealies: the installer in past was just a tar/zip that you unpack somewhere and point JAVA_HOME to it on use19:29
realiesakik, im getting the same results via the installer and by manually populating the repo location19:30
pragmaticenigmaakik, we cannot support 3rd party installers... please stick to room guidelines.19:30
pragmaticenigmarealies, as you were told earlier, we do not support software not obtained through Ubuntu software repositories19:30
akiksure19:30
pragmaticenigmarealies, you will have to find a java community for help19:31
realiesdon't think so pragmaticenigma19:32
realiesit's a ubuntu-specific question19:32
realiesand here's where the ubuntu community is19:32
pragmaticenigmarealies, where did you download Java SDK from?19:32
realiesi haven't19:32
pragmaticenigmarealies, you were told before... if you aren't going to use the software available in the Official Ubuntu software repository it is not supported by this channel19:33
omarvnobody in #ubuntu+1 answer ...19:33
Butterfly_omarv : be patient19:33
realiespragmaticenigma, this channel is an official ubuntu support channel with ubuntu userbase, this is a ubuntu-specific question19:34
pragmaticenigmarealies, that is not correct19:34
realieswhich part?19:35
piterkewitam wszystkich szukam kolegi diogenesa19:36
pragmaticenigmarealies, I'm done repeating myself... If you are not going to download Java through the APT, we cannot support it19:36
realiescool, the question remains for ubuntu users that might have had experience with this use-case19:37
Butterfly_!off-topic realies19:37
realiesoh19:37
tsgloveI'm reading this link, yet I am unsure why the author would say to add a new partition /dev/sda6: "1. Boot a live CD and, using any tool, using any tool create a new partition, lets call it /dev/sda6 , next to and to the left of (after) your crypt. "19:37
tsglovelink --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions19:38
spartan2276How can I get my graphics tablet to work?19:38
pragmaticenigma!details | spartan227619:38
ubottuspartan2276: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.19:38
realieslols19:38
zteamrealies, there is a thirdparty ppa (personal repository) over here, try it at your own risk, we do not offer any support for it https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java19:38
realieszteam, that's what i'm trying,but it seems i have to find the maintainer for that as it seems they haven't updated it since the last jdk update19:38
spartan2276here is the output of xinput list https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/7cT5hsNjH6/19:39
spartan2276here is my 52-tavlet.conf file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8XPBf7zYtV/19:40
realieszteam, too bad i can't track them :)19:40
spartan2276*52-tablet.conf file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8XPBf7zYtV/19:40
pragmaticenigma!enter | spartan227619:40
ubottuspartan2276: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.19:40
spartan2276@pragmaticenigma but they're different files and outputs19:41
realies!offtopic pragmaticenigma19:41
realies:D:D19:41
pragmaticenigma!coc | realies19:42
ubotturealies: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv19:42
realiesdo you have a video tutorial?19:42
pragmaticenigmaspartan2276, with the conversation that is going on here it's too difficult for someone to follow the single line posts of your links. Also, if anyone is going to be able to help, they need it one line to make it easier to find later19:42
realies!nazi pragmaticenigma19:43
spartan2276I tried to follow this (http://digimend.github.io/support/howto/trbl/locating_failure/) guide to get the tablet to work but no dice :(19:44
zteamrealies, try to download it directly from oracle then: https://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp19:44
realieszteam, sure, i was looking to provision a dockerfile though19:45
zteamrealies, I have no experience at all with docker, so cannot really help you with that19:46
realieslooking to automate the process basically19:46
zteamrealies, you could download the package with wget and just execute the installer from your script I guess. It might also be possible to convert the .RPM-file they provide with alien and try to install that manually19:49
zteamwith dpkg -i19:49
realieszteam, gotta accept the agreement and forward the cookie for automatic dl19:50
realieswhat the oracle-java8-installer is doing i believe19:50
pragmaticenigma!ot | zteam , realies19:51
ubottuzteam , realies: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:51
realiesdude, this is on topic with the ubuntu distribution19:51
pragmaticenigmaIt is not on topic, you are discussing downloading java from a non-ubuntu affiliated site... the conversation needs to take place elsewhere19:52
dave_mwihello, I have an older AMD chip - is there still some install work I can do for better graphics? fglrx or something similiar? I've tried researching, but not having any luck really.19:52
dave_mwiAMD gpu that is19:52
realiespragmaticenigma, the conduct of code scrolls you send me do not state that those types of discussions are not allowed19:53
pragmaticenigmadave_mwi, fglrx was discontinued in favor of AMD's contribution of drivers directly into the kernel19:53
tsglovewhen is ubuntu 18 released?19:53
realiesso would you please being off-topic?19:54
realies*stop being19:54
pragmaticenigmarealies, it does talk about being pleasent and positive contributor to the channel. calling someone a name is not following that19:54
realieswho has been called a name?19:54
dave_mwipragmaticenigma: so then the base install should have me covered?19:54
adalberttsglove: i believe 27th of april.19:55
tsgloveadalbert, nice!!19:55
tsglovethanks19:55
pragmaticenigmadave_mwi, it should to my knowledge19:55
pragmaticenigmadave_mwi, some features will not be available19:55
zteamrealies, you could try to convert the RPM-file, with dpkg -i or you can possibly copy the files from a system where you already installed it. please try to ask your question in #java for further assistance19:56
realieszteam, would the executables from the rpm be identical to the deb?19:57
realies*to a deb19:57
dave_mwipragmaticenigma, thank you19:57
zteamrealies, alien can try to convert it to a .deb, it's not guarenteed to work at all, that depends on if the packages has the same name, depependeices amd so on20:01
realiesi see20:02
IntelCoreerror encountered processing oracle-java8-installer dpkg code(1) ???20:09
IntelCoreopenjdk version "1.8.0_162"20:10
stepanka_hi20:10
IntelCore is this latest java 8?20:10
IntelCorehi stepanka20:11
IntelCoreDoes this mean, I gotta get java for ubuntu, not from Oracle?20:12
tomreynIntelCore: unless you have very very spacial needs, you should always yuse the openjdk provided by ubuntu20:12
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IntelCorehmm.. what about 9, or 10?20:13
stepanka_i have strange problem. It seems that i once saved state before sleep/switch off and the state loads with every session restart. Does anyone know how to purge that saved state? I checked lunch settings and niether terminal nor firefox is there..20:13
stepanka_launch*20:13
tomreynIntelCore: what is your goal, what does not work, if anything20:13
stepanka_there is no lunch setting.20:13
SircleHow to make wildfly re run if it gets crashed (this is happening to me a lot I dont know why). Using Ubuntu20:14
IntelCore want to have latest Oracle java is all..20:14
naccIntelCore: java 9 and 10 are in the later releases20:15
tomreyn!latest | IntelCore20:16
ubottuIntelCore: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.20:16
IntelCoreyeah? I dunno what about ppa is.20:17
cramhello i do  do-release-upgrade -d20:17
tomreyn!ppa | IntelCore20:17
ubottuIntelCore: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge20:17
crambut i have black screen now. Why?20:17
DraconiatorI'm having a weird problem too, I have Xubuntu installed on my netbook, and sometimes when I start it up, it's like once in a while my wireless doesn't initialize or something because I get no signal, and Xub reports there are no access points around.  when that happens I have to reboot until it does NOT do this.20:18
crami tried to upgrade to bionic beaver20:18
IntelCoreyes, so the error came and told me that my Ubunutu was not the official one.20:18
nacccram: what did you upgrade from?20:18
cramxubuntu 17.10 to 18.0420:19
nacccram: do you use nvidia?20:19
IntelCorei have a few more days...20:19
cramyes i have nvidia pilot20:20
Sven_vBwhat's a good program to talk to a TCP server like netcat, but have the bottom line reserved for my input, not messing with and not being messed up by lines received? basically like irssi20:20
nacccram: that's probably why, i think there is ongoing stuff with nvidia right now20:20
nacccram: #ubuntu+1 for support20:20
cramok what can i do ?20:21
cramthanks for the adress20:21
kostkonDraconiator, in the interim you might want to try disabling your wifi from the switch and enabling it again and see if that makes any difference20:21
new0tomreyn, hey. btw my other problems were solved.20:22
new0hi kostkon, after the reboot my ubuntu start to work good20:22
new0:O)20:22
new0* :)20:22
DraconiatorHmmm, well that worked.20:23
kostkonDraconiator, instead of having to reboot, how many times does it usually take20:23
kostkonnew0, after that big update. nice.20:23
Draconiatorone.  But I never tried the switch before because the light doesn't do anything when it happens.20:24
IntelCorehere at the library. sometimes i have to get-off their wi-fi to even have browser work .20:24
kostkonDraconiator, right. well it's a temporary solution of sorts20:24
IntelCoreso, i go.. click networking, and or wi-fi, and that re-sets all of it20:25
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Sven_vBeven better: is there a program that helps me chat with any command's stdio and have the bottom line for my input? then I could rlwrap $stdio_chat netcat $opts20:27
tomreynnew0: thats good news, thanks for the feedback.20:27
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Sven_vBwell the readline would probably have to be baked into that chat program instead of using rlwrap20:28
new0kostkon, yes. samba were making a lot of problems for me. finally i can access it from Win7 + now i have new problem to solved. accessing with Auth and also access only and not change. and i installed git-ftp which is nice tool to have if i don't have ssh access to remote file server to use git hook20:29
DraconiatorJust glad I get to use my netbook again, thing was getting pretty old and it had WinXP on it as well as a 160GB hard drive; thing was so bloated...so I eventually bought an 8GB SSD and put Xubuntu on it.  So there ya go, no more bloat!!!20:29
tomreyn8 GB SSD? doh, this must be old.20:30
Draconiatoryep, circa 2007 I think20:31
kostkonnew0, ask your new question away20:31
kostkonDraconiator, pretty big downsize. i went from 250hdd to 120ssd on my netbook20:32
Draconiatorbut it works like I want it to so I'm not complaining  hell I don't game on here heh.20:32
tomreynDraconiator: read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled20:33
new0tomreyn, hey, nice to see you. btw can i finally remove those comments deb from source.list?20:33
tomreynnew0: if your system works fine now, sure.20:34
tomreyni mean if apt runs without reporting warnings or errors20:34
new0tomreyn, ok. what is the cmd to find the path of source.list (keep forgetting it)20:34
new0tomreyn, at the moment i see no warning/errors20:34
tomreynnew0: the main sources.list file is at /etc/apt/sources.list20:34
new0tomreyn, right. but let's just say i want to look for filename. what would be the command/20:35
new0?20:35
tomreynnew0: when you add other (non standard) repositories you should place a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ though20:35
tomreyn"ls /etc/apt" lists the contents of this directory20:36
tomreyn"find /etc -iname 'sources.list'" would find the file20:36
new0tomreyn, i mean like locate source.list or find source.list etc..20:36
new0tomreyn, tnx20:36
Draconiatorfor some reason...i think "cronjob" sounds like something I don't wanna say lol20:36
Sven_vBnevermind, trusty's rlwrap has almost that feature by default20:37
tomreynnew0: or just "locate sources.list" ;)20:37
tomreynnew0: the locate command doesn't actually run a live searhc on the file system (and is thus much faster) but regularly updates a database of what's on your file system.20:38
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new0tomreyn, hoooo source(s).list and i was looking for source.list20:38
tomreynnew0: so you get a quick lookup (very convenient) but sometimes outdated info.20:38
new0tomreyn, ok. and find command does it slower?20:39
tomreynnew0: yes, but live20:39
tomreyni'll have some food now and do some couch potatoing. ttyl.20:39
new0tomreyn, np boun appitite20:40
nbusroneDoes anyone can guide how to delete ubuntu OS without interfere with another ubuntu OS such as 12.04 remove but 14.04 is above.Grub , swap partition are share together.20:41
oerheksnbusrone, use a live iso, but determin first which partitions are used by 14.0420:42
oerheksboot 12.04 and see which belong to that, and the rest would be 14.04, i guess20:42
pragmaticenigmanbusrone, when you install a new OS to the partition being decommishind, if it is Linux, it will auto find the partitions and update grub automatically20:43
IntelCoreis this the correct room for beaver?  er, (sniff) uhm.. 18.04?20:44
naccIntelCore: #ubuntu+120:44
kostkon!ubuntu+1 | IntelCore20:44
ubottuIntelCore: Bionic Beaver is the codename for Ubuntu 18.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+120:44
mrleaWHi geeks, any idea how to install CGI:IRC on Ubuntu 16.04. LTS ?20:45
IntelCorety20:45
oerheksit is not in our repos, or i do not find it, see http://cgiirc.org/docs/install.php20:46
oerheksmrleaW ^^20:47
mrleaWyes20:47
mrleaWI see that link , from there i have dowloaded the website cgi script :)20:47
nbusroneoerheks , pragmaticenigma : what I amd trying to achieve is , deleting 12.04 , retain 14.04 installing upcoming 16.04 or 18.04 into 12.04 free space partition .The first step , on live CD , just format the partition using Gparted then installed ? as simple as it ? Do I need to set a swap ? I saw some article where 16.04 doesn't need swap .20:47
pragmaticenigmanbusrone, 16.04 can still use a designated swap partition if one is defined.20:48
mrleaWAll i need is how to load this cgi script after editing config files and moving them to /var/www/html path (i have installed apache2)20:48
kostkonnbusrone, you might have read that 17.10 uses a swap file instead of a partition, as does 18.0420:49
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pragmaticenigmanbusrone, you can use the partition tool in the installer to delete the existin 12.04 partition and install to that partition. when it goes to detect boot loaders, it will see one is already installed and trigger the update for 14.04 and which ever version you choose to install. and will remove the older non-existant 12.0420:49
nbusronepragmaticenigma : If I doesn't wanted to assgin a swap ? which memory will it use ?20:49
pragmaticenigmanbusrone, 16.04 still uses swap... it just uses a swap file instead of a partition... if you already have a partition, I would continue to use that20:50
kostkonnbusrone, your ram? how much do you have20:50
pragmaticenigmakostkon, that's not quite correct. Ubuntu still uses swap, it just uses a swap file instead of a swap partition20:51
nbusronepragmaticenigma : Thank I'll try out tomorrow , but the partition is share with 14.04 . I can't create more partition since using MBR rather than GPT.20:51
oerhekspragmaticenigma, wrong, 16.04 uses a swap partition20:51
pragmaticenigmaoerheks, it can use both20:52
pragmaticenigmabut not at the same time20:52
kostkonpragmaticenigma, yeah i'm just answering his hypothetical question20:52
nbusronekostkon : 8GB , I plan to upgrade but on hold since the ram price hike like double the price.Not knowing when i'll go down.20:52
oerheks...20:52
oerheksofficial: 17.04 .. http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2016/12/swapfiles-by-default-in-ubuntu.html20:53
oerhekssuch new items will not be introduced with an LTS.20:54
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pragmaticenigmaoerheks, I was going based on this documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq20:56
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new0hey, when i am accessing a share folder on Ubuntu from win7 why it's allow me to create new folder/files? also why it give me free access without prompting me for user&pass?21:01
adalbertnew0: are the ubuntu and win7 on the same system ? Is it multi boot with shared folder or ... ?21:04
new0adalbert, 2 machines21:04
adalbertnew0: ok.21:04
new0adalbert, same workgroup21:04
adalbertnew0: same user account too ?21:05
mrleaWAny suggestion about how to install CGI:IRC on my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS ? Thanks ! :)21:05
new0adalbert, funny thing is: when i am where the share folder is defined by nano /etc/samba/smb.conf it's accessable but not changeble which is good. but when i set it via samba server configuration GUI it's also allow me to create/delete files/folder from the share folder of ubuntu on win7 machine21:06
new0adalbert, not same user account21:06
new0adalbert, not at all21:07
adalbertnew0: so you got samba running on the ubuntu ? Maybe you're sharing a public folder with all permissions for anynomous ? Check samba conf ?21:07
new0adalbert, what should i check?21:07
adalbertsmb.conf21:08
adalbertsamba's configuration file, I've no idea where that is tho :)21:08
new0adalbert, samba running on ubuntu = yes; sharing music folder not with all permission but we should probably check it out; i will check conf, but what do i looking for?21:08
new0adalbert, mmmm btw if i have smb.conf in home dir should it matter? is it override /etc/samba/smb.conf ?21:09
adalbertnew0: in the samba configuration there are directives for the path's you are sharing through samba, you should check those directives.21:10
adalbertnew0: i don't think smb.conf in home dir will work.21:10
GuiTorishello, how can I change power management settings in command line?21:10
new0adalbert, smb.conf in home dir will not work? GREATE! solve one problem. but the share folder of Music in home dir i did share it via GUI of Samba Server Configuration and not via directive on /etc/samba/smb.conf ! should it matter?21:12
adalbertnew0: which GUI?21:12
new0Samba Server Configuration adalbert21:12
adalbertnew0: i'll have a look21:13
new0adalbert, ok21:13
adalbertnew0: you got a link for that ?21:13
IntelCoreis there a room for 16.04 server?21:14
kostkonIntelCore, just #ubuntu-server21:15
IntelCorety21:15
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new0adalbert, i can try to look for a link21:15
new0tomreyn, kostkon, wow, for some reason my system is really fast now considering my low hardware. perhaps it's because it's running on memory at this time and not swap file21:17
new0adalbert, something like that? https://www.google.co.il/search?q=samba+server+configuration+tool+1.2.63&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi67ZjtncLaAhXEZ1AKHU-ODZ8Q_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=650&dpr=121:17
kostkonnew0, not quite sure about that but good to hear :)21:17
new0kostkon, meaning it was very slow last time! and i am not sure if it's because my system were running for month without power off21:18
adalbertnew0: in case you want to drop the GUI, here's a usefull video for configuration of samba.21:18
adalberthttps://www.google.be/search?q=samba+server+configuration&oq=samba+server+configuration&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3707j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=121:18
kostkonnew0, yep could be21:19
new0adalbert, mmm so perhaps because i mix setting of folder sharing via GUI and directive.. the GUI does not do it best?21:20
adalbertnew0: here's a link with other GUI's you can try ... https://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/21:20
new0adalbert, the Music folder does the sharing setting via gui while all other via directive. but i still don't get user and pass prompt21:20
adalbertnew0: even after a reboot of the windows system ? fresh login ? no password ?21:21
oerheksuse one authentication system, not 221:22
oerheksor settings21:22
oerheks!info swat21:23
ubottuPackage swat does not exist in artful21:23
oerheks:-(21:23
new0adalbert, mmm no. not after reboot. but if i play with sharing setting on ubuntu i can feel it via win7. and before i did update and dist-upgrade on ubuntu (yesterday) it did prompt me with user and pass. but just not getting accessed to it. and now i am getting accessed, but just not getting prompt :)21:23
new0wieeeerd21:23
adalbertnew0: windows keeps samba login's in the cache till a reboot or a certain amount of idle time, no idea how long tho.21:24
new0adalbert, mmmmmm i guess my Q will be. what should/prefer/best practice... to use for sharing with ubuntu?21:24
new0adalbert, okkk would u know how may i clear those caching?21:25
adalbertnew0: either sftp ssh or samba.21:25
new0adalbert, mmm another thought maybe this time i will google it?!21:25
adalbertnew0: I have no idea about cleaing the cache21:25
new0adalbert, another method i meant.. not sftp ssh.. but another method for samba. like GUI or just directive? and if yes to GUI what tool is good/best? likable?21:26
adalbertnew0: a restart of the samba server on the ubuntu machine "might" force the windows connections to reset but i'm not sure about that, have to test it21:26
new0adalbert, about it.. will google it. but about how to use sharing setting with samba i hope to learn here. or google it to. however you will guide me ;)21:27
adalbertnew0: another method ? I'm not aware other than editing the smb.conf file either by hand or GUI ?21:27
new0adalbert, yes. is GUI interapting with directive? and vice versa?21:28
new0adalbert, or maybe i will just play around with directive before i am getting into GUI? tomreyn, kostkon, ... suggestions?21:29
adalbertnew0: the GUI is just a frontend for editing the smb.conf file. How the GUI handles that process is different for every GUI i suppose, Some might overwrite the config file with a new one , others might update the GUI according to the config file.21:30
adalbertnew0: what i'm saying is, that working with both might cause problems in configuration.21:31
new0adalbert, yes. this is what i see. conf and GUI not match exact21:34
adalbertnew0: in any case, after making changes to the config file either by hand or GUI you can run the 'testparm' program to verify your samba configuration . (see man testparm)21:34
new0adalbert, yes. testparm21:34
new0adalbert, does it say something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQPB455FCb/21:36
adalbertlooks good, except i would disable access to guests , but that's a personal choice.21:37
new0adalbert, whattt? this is why i don't get prompt to user and pass?21:38
adalbertnew0: guests do not have write permissions tho.21:39
new0adalbert, fine.. but right now i don't have access at all21:40
new0adalbert, i could open files and see list of files/folders but not changing them. GREAT. but, not it's says Windows cannot access... maybe i need valid users or something?21:41
adalbertnew0: yes you need to create users for samba.21:42
adalbertnew0: example here: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/adding-a-user-to-a-samba-smb-share/21:43
new0adalbert, i do have one user for samba21:43
adalbertnew0: have you used smbpasswd ?21:44
new0adalbert, mmm i have done it via GUI but when i did it by terminal it was saying already exists21:45
adalbertnew0: oke, then your user account should be setup for samba21:46
new0adalbert, another weird thing is: when i go to my Network location on Win7 and open the share folders by network name (NetBios) it's open the share folder. but when i open it via \\IP it's say Windows cannot access21:47
new0adalbert,21:47
new0adalbert, but why it's behaving like this/.21:47
new0?21:47
lokifaerhi all21:48
lokifaerI just installed 17.10 and fought for adding the auto num lock with numlockx21:51
lokifaerthen I finally realized that the command itself doesn't do anything at all21:52
oerheksnew0, did you use something like smb://ip/share/dirpath ?21:52
oerheksnot just //ip21:52
adalbertnew0: did you try \\ or \\\\ ? I believe on windows you need 4slashes ...21:52
new0adalbert, ok. Q when i click Property of Folder in home dir "Music" and click the tab "Local Network Share" does it belong to samba?21:53
lokifaerany idea what's happening here?21:53
adalbertnew0: i believe it does .21:53
new0oerheks, in windows you just do \\IP or \\Netbios-name\share-folder21:53
new0adalbert, can u make sure? if u want of course :021:54
new0adalbert, * :)21:54
adalbertnew0: I don't have windows 7 ...21:55
lokifaernew0, what is it you wanna do?21:55
BlitzerHoundIt's still possible to get malware and viruses on ubuntu right? How do I check or scan or something?21:56
BlitzerHoundMy system's been running really laggy lately and seemingly for no reason21:56
adalbertBlitzerHound: not if you're sticking to the original repo's...21:57
BlitzerHoundI mean I haven't installed anything shady21:57
adalbertadalbert: BlitzerHound , 3th party ... anything could happen :D21:57
BlitzerHoundAside from stuff on wine. But that wouldn't affect anything would it?21:57
new0adalbert, i was referring to "Locat Network Share" tab on Music folder property. lokifaer, i wanted to know if this tab is connected to samba or it just Ubuntu share?! also why when access share folder from win7 to ubuntu/samba it's not prompting for user and password. i do have security = user in /etc/samba/smb.conf21:58
BlitzerHoundIs there like a system restore function or something? I'm just trying to figure out how to stop the lag on my system21:58
adalbertBlitzerHound: what's the load on your system?21:59
BlitzerHoundUm... I dunno21:59
Jordan_UBlitzerHound: There are many things that can cause Ubuntu to become laggy, from bugs to misconfiguration. The least likely reason is malware. Do note however that Windows malware *can* run via Wine, and wine doesn't provide you much in the way of protection from that. If malware would encrypt all your personal files and ransom you in Windows, it will do the same if you run the same executable via wine.21:59
adalbertBlitzerHound: try top or htop21:59
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BlitzerHoundOkay. I see something that says load average: 1.89, 2.37, 1.5322:00
adalbertBlitzerHound: that is acceptable ... but close to influencing desktop reaction .22:01
BlitzerHoundThe main thing that's most notable is that when I run youtube, the videos run really laggy and not in sync with the audio22:01
adalbertBlitzerHound: check your top 10 processes that are using cpu and figure out what might be causing it.22:01
adalbertBlitzerHound: a load of close to 2, something is dragging ...22:02
BlitzerHoundThe top process says 'main'. The other ones are under 2mb of memory22:03
adalbertBlitzerHound: memory doesn't matter much, cpu is the key here.22:03
BlitzerHoundAnd nothing seems to be taking up much cpu.22:03
BlitzerHoundIt's just all 0 besides the system monitor I'm using22:04
lokifaernew0, the folder you try to access from win7 is inside your home directory?22:04
adalbertBlitzerHound: impossible with a load of 2...22:04
BlitzerHoundShould I not be checking from the system monitor?22:04
new0lokifaer, yes22:04
adalbertBlitzerHound: run top or htop as root ... sudo top, sudo htop.22:05
lokifaerdo you use the same user on both os?22:05
BlitzerHoundI don't understand what I'm looking at22:05
new0lokifaer, of course if i set guest ok =yes it will be access but i don't want it to be accessable without user and pass22:05
BlitzerHoundI see something that says xorg and that's taking up 15.9 cpu22:06
new0lokifaer, not the same user22:06
BlitzerHoundBut fluctuating from that to 2.022:06
new0lokifaer, the problem right now is that not prompting for user and pass at all22:06
adalbertBlitzerHound: run htop, make screenshot , post to imgur pls22:06
BlitzerHoundc k22:06
lokifaernew0, i see22:06
BlitzerHoundsays command htop not found22:07
lokifaeri assume you restarted your ubuntu to take your changes into account?22:07
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BlitzerHoundThe print screen button won't work. How else can I take a screenshot?22:08
adalbertBlitzerHound: install gnome-screenshot , sudo apt install gnome-screenshot22:08
lokifaerBlitzerHound, you should already have a screnshot tool installed22:09
new0lokifaer, this is what i am just reading about.. to reboot ubuntu. just not sure why i needed to22:09
new0lokifaer, but i could try22:09
BlitzerHoundI do, but I'm using it with the unity thing and for some reason it wont' screenshot with the print button like normal22:09
BlitzerHoundAlso sudo apt-get instal gnome-screenshot isn't doing anything22:09
adalbertBlitzerHound: err, sudo apt install gnome-screenshot ... my bad22:10
BlitzerHoundThat doesn't do anything either22:10
BlitzerHoundOh wait22:10
lokifaerBlitzerHound, use your Ubuntu software to find one22:10
BlitzerHoundIt says it's already installed22:10
adalbert...22:11
new0lokifaer, mmmm btw my ubuntu is rebooted. i just remember that i did it after major update and dist-upgrade22:11
Jordan_UBlitzerHound: Gnome System Monitor is a GUI system monitor that can be easier to understand.22:12
new0lokifaer, tomreyn and kostkon helped me a lot on the subject22:12
BlitzerHoundOne sec, I can fix this I think.22:12
BlitzerHoundbrb22:12
lokifaernew0, what did they say?22:13
new0lokifaer, at the moment i have few problems, would u like to hear?22:14
lokifaernew0, PM me22:14
new0lokifaer, they already solved it. it was update problem and few samba problem that got solve somehow22:14
new0lokifaer, np22:14
new0lokifaer, what is the cmd for PM?22:15
lokifaernew0, no idea :P22:15
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BlitzerHoundhttps://imgur.com/a/Z8o8s22:27
BlitzerHoundThere we go22:27
BlitzerHoundAlso worth noting, it doesn't seem to start lagging until after I open firefox22:28
BlitzerHoundThat or it was coincidental and it starts lagging a few minutes after I start the computer22:28
NginUSMy script runs fine manually, but 1 line doesn't when cron runs it. Not sure why...22:29
BlitzerHoundIs the person that was helping me still here?22:31
xamithanYou using bash specific commands ?  cron doesn't like those unless you set the env first22:31
ycyclistThis is from page 16 of the book:22:33
ycyclisthttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HSjktc8hWC/22:33
lokifaerdid anyone already have that issue: numlockx doesn't work on my Ubuntu 17.10?22:34
ycyclistYou can see there is an attempted compile at the top.22:34
BlitzerHoundWhat is zeitgeist-daemon and zeitgeist-hub? Those sound ominous22:34
ycyclistLooks like this is before some modern usage decision to leave off the .h extensions.22:34
lokifaer+22:35
ycyclistThe book is _STL Tutorial and Reference Guide_ by Stepanov.22:35
ycyclistI thought maybe there would be a command like g++ p16ex1d1.cpp -o p16ex1d1 -g -std=c++1 or something like that.22:36
SlidingHorn!info zeitgeist-daemon22:36
mrleaWSuccessfuly not find any explanation on google about how to install CGI:IRC on ubuntu 16.04 LTS ! I'll apreciate if u give me more info about this irc webclient instalation ! Thanks in advanced!22:36
ubottuPackage zeitgeist-daemon does not exist in artful22:36
SlidingHorn!info zeitgeist22:37
ubottuzeitgeist (source: zeitgeist): event logging framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu4 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 19 kB22:37
Jordan_UNginUS: Please pastebin your complete script and the crontab line you made for it.22:39
BlitzerHoundOh.22:40
BlitzerHoundIs that a bad thing?22:40
BlitzerHoundEvent logging sounds kinda bad22:41
Jordan_UBlitzerHound: It's not malware, and I have no problem with it, but some people don't like it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software)22:41
BlitzerHoundAs long as it isn't malware I'm fine22:41
NginUSJordan_U: It's the screen line that doesn't run but those above do https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8jJp782W2w/22:42
BlitzerHoundIs there a way to figure out why my system is lagging with this info?22:47
BlitzerHoundhttps://imgur.com/a/YNrjT22:47
BlitzerHoundI looked on the internet and it told me to do that, but I don't know what I'm looking at22:48
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SlidingHornBlitzerHound: jbd is using a ton of resources (it's apparently a python wrapper around rsync [a software used for backups, etc])22:51
BlitzerHoundSo what should I do?22:51
BlitzerHoundI don't see jbd on the process list22:52
adalbertBlitzerHound: your drive is writing at 99%22:52
SlidingHornwell, first, I'd look into why you needed to install jbd (it's not in the repos), if you still need it, and figure out why it's running when you don't know it.22:52
BlitzerHoundIs there a way to straightout uninstall it? I don't remember installing that22:53
adalbertBlitzerHound: stop rsync ... ?22:53
SlidingHornBlitzerHound: it's in the window at the bottom left of your screenshot...it's currently holding 99% of your disk I/O and presumably is the python application using 12% of your CPU22:54
BlitzerHoundIt said I don't have a 'stop' command22:55
BlitzerHoundBut I have 17 similar commands22:55
adalbertBlitzerHound: first show us which process is linked to the 12% cpu pls22:55
SlidingHornBlitzerHound: ^^ that's in the htop window22:56
BlitzerHoundAlright, I see it. So how do I like... uninstall it? Like I said, I don't need it, I don't remember installing it22:56
adalbertBlitzerHound: fullscreen htop output pls22:56
tgm4883You shouldn't try to remove jbd222:57
adalbertBlitzerHound: you can stop rsync : sudo service rsync stop22:57
adalbertBlitzerHound: see if that calms things down.22:58
BlitzerHoundok22:58
tgm4883I'm a little concerned that someone suggested you do so22:58
BlitzerHoundWould it be bad to have on?22:59
BlitzerHoundAlso, it seems like it's still kinda lagging. Better though, for sure.22:59
Seveasjbd2 is part of the kernel, part of interacting with the disks. You cannot remove it. If it's busy, that simply means you're doing lots of I/O22:59
tgm4883exactly22:59
adalbertBlitzerHound: unless you're using rsync, you shouldn't use it.22:59
Seveasand yeah, rsycn doing lots of I/O will make jbd2 busy :)22:59
BlitzerHoundhttps://imgur.com/a/Ff86p22:59
adalbertBlitzerHound: check load in 5 minutes, it should be below 123:00
BlitzerHoundHow do I check just the load?23:00
SeveasBlitzerHound: 'uptime'23:00
adalbertBlitzerHound: or htop23:00
Seveasor cat /proc/loadavg :)23:01
adalbertLoad Average23:01
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adalbertBlitzerHound: in order to stop rsync from running on the next boot you can use: sudo systemctl disable rsync23:03
BlitzerHoundAlright, I'll do that.23:04
BlitzerHoundI'm watching the load average and it IS going down steadily it seems.23:04
adalbertBlitzerHound: check also for sure if the 99% IO is gone now in iotop.23:05
BlitzerHoundNo, it's still there23:07
BlitzerHoundIt says jbd2/sda 1-823:07
adalbertBlitzerHound: still at 99%?23:08
BlitzerHoundYeah23:08
HoloIRCUser3Hello I just installed ubuntu mate and I noticed that the secondary click on my trackpad is a two-finger click versus a right-click is there any way to change this to a right-click thanks23:08
new01) when opening share folder.. it's just opened, not user and pass prompt. 2) second, when i explore via Netbios name \\computer-name all shared folder are opening, and when i explore via \\IP it's acting like the smb.conf meaning guest ok = yes are opened and valid users = a-user get me an error of "windows cannot access..."23:08
new0any solution?23:08
adalbertBlitzerHound: that last screenshot , is that sudo htop or just htop ?23:13
BlitzerHoundI'll do a sudo htop just to be sure23:14
NutsEverywhereanyone here using budgie desktop?23:14
SlidingHornNutsEverywhere: what's your actual question?23:16
BlitzerHoundThis is the sudo htop23:17
BlitzerHoundhttps://imgur.com/a/RTkAh23:17
adalbertBlitzerHound: well, that certainly looks oke.23:18
BlitzerHoundc But the io thing is still at 9923:18
BlitzerHoundAnd it's still lagging23:19
BlitzerHoundShould I try rebooting maybe?23:19
adalbertBlitzerHound: are you running any Raid formation on the system?23:19
BlitzerHoundI'd assume not since I don't know what that is23:19
adalbertBlitzerHound: then try a reboot yes.23:19
BlitzerHoundOk. brb23:19
BlitzerHoundOkay so I don't know if anything worked but it's not lagging. I haven't started firefox though23:24
BlitzerHoundAlso update, the thing with 99 on the iotop isn't showing up23:25
BlitzerHoundadalbert: Should I start firefox and see if it stays that way?23:26
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NutsEverywhereSlidingHorn Raven Sidebar Control is on the right of the top panel, but the sidebar itself opens from the left, is there a way to fix it?23:26
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adalbertBlitzerHound: so far so good , i suppose ?23:29
BlitzerHoundYeah, so far23:30
BlitzerHoundBut again I haven't started anything but smuxi23:30
adalbertBlitzerHound: just keep an eye on iotop.23:31
BlitzerHoundAlright. I'm gonna try firefox.23:31
BlitzerHoundSee the second I opened firefox it started again23:32
adalbertBlitzerHound: really ? well then I guess there's something wrong with the firefox installation ...23:32
BlitzerHoundGonna reboot and see if it starts with chromium23:33
adalbertBlitzerHound: OK23:33
BlitzerHoundIs there a possibility I'm being spied on or something?23:33
BlitzerHoundbrb23:33
new0!samba23:34
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html23:34
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SlidingHornBlitzerHound & adalbert let's take into account here that the machine is only 2GB of memory and is running Gnome & FF, which is going to use over half of that off the bat23:34
adalbertSlidingHorn: true, but the problem is jbd, taking up 99% in resources in iotop.23:35
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SlidingHornadalbert: I apologize, I assumed when they said "it started again" that they meant lag, not necessarily the I/O max-out issue23:36
adalbertSlidingHorn: if this was only for a couple of seconds or minutes it would be oke, but persistent 99% sounds like a loop somewhere23:36
xuanruiAnyone here familiar with the final beta of 18.04?23:36
SlidingHornxuanrui: head to #ubuntu+123:37
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adalbertSlidingHorn: right, that's one thing to figure out.23:37
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xuanruiThx23:39
BlitzerHoundadalbert: Yeah man it's not going away. It starts with both firefox and chrome23:42
BlitzerHoundAnd I think this time It just started up with the system23:42
BlitzerHoundStarting to get worried. I'm already paranoid as it is23:42
SlidingHornBlitzerHound: just to clarify something:  by "it" are you talking about the jbd process or do you just mean the lag?23:44
BlitzerHoundboth23:44
BlitzerHoundWell the process started when I booted up possibly, but for sure the lag hit when I opened chromium23:45
SlidingHorncould you post the output of   ls ~/.config/autostart23:45
adalbertBlitzerHound: well, as I know nothing about jbd workings and such, this goes beyond my knowledge... Anyone else in that area ?23:45
SlidingHorn(pastebin, please)23:46
BlitzerHoundPastebin what?23:46
BlitzerHoundThe iotop thing?23:46
SlidingHornBlitzerHound: sorry I didn't tag you:    please pastebin the output of    ls ~/.config/autostart23:47
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BlitzerHoundSays there's no such file or directory23:48
adalbertBlitzerHound: if you really want to get paranoid, run iftop :)23:51
BlitzerHoundAlso, is it normal to have a file named "Trolltech.conf" in your .config folder?23:52
adalbertBlitzerHound: I seriously doubt it !23:53
BlitzerHoundI just searched and it says it's normal. o3o23:54
BlitzerHoundI dunno. Is there a way to just permanently disable that one process? Or does it not work like that?23:54
adalbertBlitzerHound: as far as I know, you need jbd, it handles the data-transactions from system to disks etc23:55

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