[00:00] <kostkon> new0, about the number of packages?
[00:00] <new0> kostkon, yes
[00:01] <kostkon> new0, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QGDMM7Xmyt/
[00:02] <new0> kostkon, ahh nice one :)
[00:02] <new0> kostkon, so... what dist-upgrade actually does? unlike update
[00:04] <new0> hooo man. it's even updating the Sublime-Text in my OS
[00:04] <kostkon> new0, generally it can also remove or add new packages
[00:04] <new0> i thought it's only upgrading the System not the software/applications
[00:05] <kostkon> new0, everything can be updated in ubuntu. more or less
[00:05] <new0> kostkon, so i can go few version back for some software/application?
[00:05] <kostkon> new0, no, it's not easy to do that
[00:05] <new0> kostkon, yes but didn't know about the apps too
[00:05] <new0> ho ok
[00:05] <new0> so... what is the diff? dist-upgrade and update?
[00:07] <kostkon> new0, unlike update it can also add or remove packages and handle the associated dependencies a little better
[00:08] <guiverc> update - updates your software repository lists.   upgrade - upgrades your software versions with certain restrictions.   dist-upgrade does upgrade plus packages upgrade couldn't touch.  (see 'man apt-get' for more info)
[00:09] <new0> guiverc, ok. tnx
[00:13] <new0> in meantime my disk space dropping to few 100M :)
[00:26] <rud0lf> i have some bash and python scripts that i would like to be system-wide (for all users); what is the best way to place them on PATH?
[00:26] <rud0lf> without mangling with PATH variable itself
[00:26] <rud0lf>  /usr/bin ? /usr/local/bin ?
[00:26] <guiverc> rud0lf: i'd use /usr/local/bin/  - but if you have policies; stick to those
[00:27] <rud0lf> nah
[00:27] <rud0lf> thanks for suggestion
[00:27] <rud0lf> nah: i don't have policies
[00:28] <new0> hi it's just asking me about the Configuring grub-pc whether i should keep my own modification or "install the package maintainer's version" is there new commnad or new setting to grub from 14.04 LTS?
[00:30] <guiverc> new0: do you know your change?   if I make a change (esp. once I know why/what i did), i always accept 'package maintainers' version knowing it may overwrite my change; as I can always re-do my change (why I work out what I did first!)
[00:32] <new0> guiverc, yes. i figure since that might be the case.. i did go the /etc/default/grub and cp to grub.backup-modified so i can always backup my changes
[00:33] <new0> guiverc, just wanted to make sure i will not sure something immediatly when upgrading new system
[00:33] <new0> so i kept the package maintainers's version
[00:33] <new0> tnx
[00:33] <fbn> hi @ll, where can I ask a question regarding Ubuntu MaaS and what the cheapest power outlet is supported by it (to power cycle) ?
[00:34] <guiverc> new0: yep. i usually switch to term, to ensure I made a grub.cfg.blah.yyyy-mm-dd (ie. i leave breadcrumbs as doco) backup of file, so i can `diff` and check what was changed etc...
[00:35] <guiverc> ditto /etc/default/grub or any other file
[00:35] <new0> guiverc, nice thinking by date :) love it
[00:35] <guiverc> (the blah is usually my username, short-reason etc)
[00:36] <new0> omg i think i just run out of space
[00:38] <guiverc> new0: you can re-do the command and i'll continue (once you have cleared the space issue).  if you're not worried about bandwidth you could always `sudo apt autoclean;sudo apt autoremove` but this will cause downloaed non-installed packages to be re-downloaded, so more efficient would be you deleting whatever you know you can (on / or full partition)
[00:42] <JHOSMAN> Hi, I need help with an apt-mirror, someone here has experience?
[00:43] <JHOSMAN> # apt install nano Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package nano is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'nano' has no installation candidate
[00:43] <new0> guiverc, tnx
[00:43] <new0> guiverc, so.. should i be worry right now that my system can crush?
[00:44] <guiverc> crush???
[00:44] <JHOSMAN> #debian-mirrors
[00:45] <new0> guiverc, could it crush?
[00:45] <new0> guiverc, i dunno what can happen when system is out of disk space
[00:45] <new0> i am running df and / have 0 avaiable
[00:45] <guiverc> sorry but I don't what you mean by crush.  crash?
[00:46] <new0> guiverc, yes crash. sorry for my english :)
[00:46] <guiverc> system no, apps - who knows  (i'd expect not; but varies on app).  do you often clean space?  if you never do, the commands i gave assumed that was the case
[00:50] <new0> guiverc, what cmd?
[00:51] <oerheks> JHOSMAN, is there no nano standard in Debian? in Ubuntu it is ...
[00:51] <guiverc> `sudo apt autoremove; sudo apt autoclean`  - but will cause non-installed packages to be redownloaded again (using some space again; i'm hoping it'll clear more used space that just the will get used again)
[00:52] <new0> yep. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) i think it's because the space issue
[00:52] <new0> ok
[00:54] <new0> is it possible that all the update and upgrade dist-upgrade took more than 1GB or space?
[00:54] <JHOSMAN> oerheks: see the log with my local apt-mirror in the moment of try install nano
[00:54] <JHOSMAN> https://pastebin.com/a9TY92zQ
[00:55] <guiverc> new0: i don't know how long it was since your last upgrade/dist-upgrade thus size of packages to be upgraded, let alone prior clutter you'd not cleaned... 1gb is large yes, but if you've tons of packages & not done in awhile then yes
[00:58] <new0> guiverc, it's must be udge
[01:00] <yosef> Hello I have a question is there a way to revert back to an earlier update such as 17.04 from 17.10?Thanks.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> yosef: No, the only way is forward .. a fresh install is recommended to go back .. and be aware 17.04 is no longer supported .
[01:04] <new0> guiverc, Q about the OS when i am moving a Folder with a lot of files. is the OS waiting to clear the space from the source drive until all the moving Folder is been moved? or does it clear the space for every file been moved? (after been moved probably been also deleted from source and copied to destination)
[01:05] <yosef> Sounds Good n I am also looking at installing the updates. I asked this question because I cannot get VLC player to play dvd's n I have installed the Codecs n still no luck. maybe this is a seperate issue away from this site.
[01:10] <yosef> Thanks Bashing-om
[01:10] <new0> kostkon, here?
[01:11] <netbookfound> hello guys
[01:11] <guiverc_> new0: when moving folder of files (sorry I stepped out, better if you direct the question to anyone); if on the same drive I'd expect no copy/delete as same inodes (blocks or sectors on drive) would contain data, just the directory entries are moved (not inodes containing data), if moving actual drive then this doesn't apply
[01:11] <netbookfound> I was wondering if I could revive an old netbook with only 2GB of storage and 512MB of ram with a minimal install
[01:11] <new0> kostkon, btw it seems that you were right!! now the system popup me with "Software Update" The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates.
[01:11] <netbookfound> or should I look for other distros
[01:13] <xamithan> Nah ubuntu isn't going to run with 512mb RAM unless you don't need a DE
[01:13] <slidinghorn> netbookfound: any  minimal distro will do just about the same for you
[01:13] <new0> guiverc_, tnx but that's ok :)
[01:13] <guiverc_> sorry my text was unclear..  a move on same drive means data isn't touched (data being stored on sectors or inodes on fs), just the directory entries require movement (from old location to new one)
[01:13] <slidinghorn> xamithan: hence, why they said minimal...
[01:13] <netbookfound> well, I don't intend to do anything serious with this
[01:14] <netbookfound> even lxde struggled to run and anything other than the distro itself and a couple of packages the disk would run out of space
[01:15] <slidinghorn> netbookfound: you could start with a minimal install, and likely some extra light WM and maybe even a small browser (depends on exactly what you want to do with it)
[01:16] <netbookfound> likely a machine dedicated to IRC and related
[01:16] <netbookfound> so I was thinking putting i3 and a lightweight browser like midori just in case
[01:17] <slidinghorn> netbookfound: if you're just lookign for IRC etc, you might eve be able to get away without a WM - just use stuff like irssi & lynx :)
[01:17] <netbookfound> yep, that's one I was thinking of
[01:27] <new0> kostkon, guiverc_, akik, also i have some updates for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZbhCfKV5J6/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9tWN78V2gW/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SbJCb7Kd2b/ it seems like everything working great
[01:40] <dunnousernamefn> Hey, I was thinking about running an Ubuntu server (either aarch64 or arm) installation with drupal on apache... I see in different places on the wiki that the minimum requirements for ubuntu server are 256M, 384M, or 512M... what is it really? And do those metrics include services that are standard with ubuntu server, e.g. DNS servers or web servers?
[02:25] <Thunder_Ruler> I'm having issues locking my computer, can anyone help me?
[02:27] <allizom> Thunder_Ruler: someone may, go on and explain your issue for it to be possible
[02:29] <Thunder_Ruler> The issue that i'm having is that I cannot lock my computer for whatever reason now, I think it may have something to do with me trying to mess around with LightDM, trying to customize the lockscreen on 16.04. Whenever I press to lock the computer, the screen turns off, on, off and then brings me right back to where I was before
[02:31] <Thunder_Ruler> the  output of gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.lockdown does show: org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen true
[02:31] <Thunder_Ruler> but I don't know how to change it
[02:34] <akem_> Thunder_Ruler, with "dconf", you can navigate to that value and switch it on or off.
[02:36] <Thunder_Ruler> I'm a little confused how to use it inside of the terminal, can you explain?
[02:37] <akem_> Thunder_Ruler, dconf has a GUI, just install "dconf" with apt, then type "dconf" in your term to launch it.
[02:38] <akem_> Thunder_Ruler, err, type: dconf-editor
[02:39] <akem_> This one is the GUI version.
[02:39] <Thunder_Ruler> got it, gonna try it out
[02:40] <allizom> Thunder_Ruler: "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen false" should also work
[02:40] <Thunder_Ruler> Awesome this worked perfectly for me :D
[02:41]  * Thunder_Ruler does a happy jiggle
[02:41] <Thunder_Ruler> i'll be sure to put the solution on AskUbuntu aswell
[02:42] <Thunder_Ruler> Now is dconf similar to how windows Control Panel in a way? I'm noticing some similarities.
[02:48] <yosef> how do I open a tar.gz file in Ubuntu Mate 17.10.15? Thanks.
[02:54] <granttrec> yosef, tar -xf
[02:59] <yosef> granttrec normaly it opens with an installer but in Ubuntu mate this is not the case.
[03:00] <yosef> says it's a tar gz
[03:17] <yosef> Thanks granttrec I just use synaptic.
[03:21] <granttrec> np, learn apt when you can, not much different tbh yosef
[03:23] <snuggerthanyou> Congrats on the release in 10 days guys :-)
[03:23] <yosef> I Like using the terminal n am learning n also synaptic I like. I dual boot to Mint. Thanks.
[03:24] <yosef> Thanks granttrec
[03:24] <granttrec> anytime m8
[03:25] <granttrec> snuggerthanyou, a non beta release?
[03:25] <tyamur> i,m using ubuntu 15.10
[03:26] <snuggerthanyou> granttrec: Official release releases on the 26th
[03:27] <granttrec> awesome :)
[03:28] <dunnousernamefn> Hey, so I'm trying to burn an arch linux iso to a dvd. The wiki suggests using a program with a nautilus right-click menu integration thingy, but I have ubuntu-desktop installed over Ubuntu Server. How should I burn the ISO?
[03:28] <dunnousernamefn> Also, Disks says it's 2kb and I can't write to it using Disk Image Writer (it's a usb dvd drive if that means anything)
[03:29] <granttrec> dunnousernamefn, try startup disk creator, pretty ez
[03:29] <dunnousernamefn> I can't remember if I had problems with that in the past
[03:29] <dunnousernamefn> But I'm probably just imagining things
[03:30] <granttrec> although I'm a little bit dubious of you installing arch if this is a problem :$
[03:30] <dunnousernamefn> Hmmm, it's only recognizing my external hard drive
[03:30] <snuggerthanyou> Scenario: You have 1 package from a meta-package already installed. If you install the meta package will it install the same package again or skip it?
[03:30] <dunnousernamefn> I'm testing it out before installing it on a small computer
[03:30] <dunnousernamefn> I wouldn't survive without a dual boot system :P
[03:30] <slidinghorn> dunnousernamefn: Arch isn't a live distro.
[03:30] <dunnousernamefn> I'm trying to make an install disk
[03:31] <dunnousernamefn> Installing it onto said external hard drive
[03:31] <slidinghorn> dunnousernamefn: that's the thing - if making an install disk is an issue, Arch isn't going to be a good idea
[03:32] <granttrec> same level of customization available on ubuntu dunnousernamefn
[03:32] <dunnousernamefn> Yes, but I'm trying to get to learn it before installing it on a small ARM board
[03:32] <dunnousernamefn> It only has 256MB of RAM
[03:33] <dunnousernamefn> I would totally go for ubuntu server but I'm not sure if it's capable
[03:33] <slidinghorn> dunnousernamefn: Then I'd suggest using a VM instead.  Again, if you cannot create an install disk, you're not going to be able to properly install and configure Arch.
[03:33] <granttrec> there is ubuntu for arm eh dunnousernamefn
[03:33] <snuggerthanyou> there wouldnt be a noticeable difference in memory usage with no desktop
[03:33] <snuggerthanyou> and you'll have to deal with the abomination that is pacman
[03:33] <dunnousernamefn> oh god, I forgot about that
[03:34] <dunnousernamefn> Especially with ARM support
[03:34] <granttrec> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[03:34] <snuggerthanyou> I'd recommend fedora server arm or ubuntu server arm
[03:34] <snuggerthanyou> fedora'll probably use a tiny bit less memory
[03:34] <dunnousernamefn> I might just install ubuntu server x86 in a vm for now
[03:35] <dunnousernamefn> Oh, that's right; I can't get hardware emulation working
[03:35] <dunnousernamefn> That was my problem
[03:35] <dunnousernamefn> It said something about a cpuid bit
[03:35] <slidinghorn> dunnousernamefn: what application were you using for a VM?
[03:35] <dunnousernamefn> I was using qemu
[03:35] <snuggerthanyou> since it uses selinux and ubuntu uses apparmor
[03:36] <dunnousernamefn> I could try virtualbox I guess
[03:36] <granttrec> try gnome boxes
[03:36] <dunnousernamefn> gnome boxes?
[03:36] <dunnousernamefn> lemme look that up
[03:36] <granttrec> virtual box is a pain on ubuntu
[03:36] <snuggerthanyou> granttrec: No?
[03:36] <andfox> so how trustworthy are Snap packages? couldn't they be bundled with spyware?
[03:36] <snuggerthanyou> snap packages are verified by snap devs
[03:36] <snuggerthanyou> They're fine
[03:37] <dunnousernamefn> That still uses libvirt
[03:37] <andfox> all of them, snuggerthanyou ?
[03:37] <dunnousernamefn> Which is where the problem is
[03:37] <snuggerthanyou> andfox: Yes. Much more secure than, let's say, the AUR
[03:37] <granttrec> if your computer doesn't support virutalization then there is nothing to do
[03:37] <granttrec> vbox uses libvirt also
[03:37] <dunnousernamefn> virtualbox's headers once caused my computer to shut down upon creating a vm
[03:38] <granttrec> snuggerthanyou, its a pain since the whole uefi thing
[03:38] <dunnousernamefn> It should though
[03:39] <snuggerthanyou> That doesn't make any sense
[03:39] <dunnousernamefn> It's a newer computer
[03:39] <dunnousernamefn> Can I find out?
[03:39] <snuggerthanyou> UEFI or BIOS don't affect anything outside of the boot mode
[03:40] <granttrec> dunnousernamefn, what processor?
[03:40] <dunnousernamefn> It's a core i5 7th gen quad core mobile
[03:40] <dunnousernamefn> Maybe it's mobile being the problem
[03:40] <snuggerthanyou> dunnousernamefn: What do you want to do again?
[03:40] <snuggerthanyou> and that wouldn't be the problem
[03:40] <snuggerthanyou> You want to use virtualbox on ubuntu?
[03:40] <granttrec> snuggerthanyou, specifcally secure boot
[03:40] <dunnousernamefn> I'm installing it now
[03:41] <snuggerthanyou> granttrec: That has nothing to do with BIOS or UEFI
[03:41] <snuggerthanyou> It's an option in both
[03:41] <snuggerthanyou> Just turn it off if it's on
[03:41] <dunnousernamefn> I'm trying to install another linux distro in a vm
[03:41] <granttrec> i want to keep secure boot on tho
[03:41] <snuggerthanyou> Okay. whats the problem dunnousernamefn
[03:42] <dunnousernamefn> It runs really slow and it takes all of the cpu, which I suspect is due to a cpuid virtualization error message when I start qemu
[03:42] <snuggerthanyou> How much memory do you have? (RAM)
[03:42] <dunnousernamefn> 24G
[03:42] <snuggerthanyou> Have you installed KVM?
[03:42] <dunnousernamefn> I thought so... hmmm
[03:43] <snuggerthanyou> Try installing it and see if it says it's already installed
[03:43] <granttrec> installed if you download vbox etc
[03:43] <dunnousernamefn> qemu-kvm is latest
[03:43] <snuggerthanyou> Try sudo apt-get install kvm
[03:43] <snuggerthanyou> Are you using an LTS kernel?
[03:43] <dunnousernamefn> either 17.10 or 16.04
[03:43] <dunnousernamefn> I think
[03:44] <snuggerthanyou> Do uname -a
[03:44] <snuggerthanyou> Whats the output
[03:44] <dunnousernamefn> Linux UBUNTU-2FRK9IS 4.13.0-37-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Wed Mar 7 14:13:23 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:45] <snuggerthanyou> Are you sure kvm is installed? Try installing standalone kvm and see if it says its already installed
[03:45] <dunnousernamefn> kvm isn't in apt, only kvmtool
[03:45] <dunnousernamefn> Note, selecting 'qemu-kvm' instead of 'kvm'
[03:45] <dunnousernamefn> And it is latest
[03:45] <granttrec> thats the package
[03:46] <snuggerthanyou> Hm
[03:46] <dunnousernamefn> vbox seems to work
[03:46] <dunnousernamefn> iirc it doesn't boot without kvm
[03:47] <snuggerthanyou> Did you tweak the settings in qemu?
[03:47] <granttrec> youre good to go then
[03:47] <snuggerthanyou> You might not have given the distro enough memory
[03:47] <granttrec> imo reinstall gnome boxes, its made to be pretty easy to install vms, if you can run vbox you can run this program
[03:49] <snuggerthanyou> dunnousernamefn: Did you tweak qemu's settings?
[03:50] <dunnousernamefn> does qemu have settings?
[03:50] <snuggerthanyou> I believe so
[03:50] <dunnousernamefn> And I think vbox is working now
[03:50] <snuggerthanyou> Alright then. Glad it works for you
[03:50] <dunnousernamefn> Thanks guys
[03:50] <snuggerthanyou> Things like virtualization software are known to be wonky
[03:51] <snuggerthanyou> So don't sweat it
[03:51] <dunnousernamefn> It would seem so
[03:51] <granttrec> ehh its pretty good, just need to read up on some things
[03:51] <dunnousernamefn> woah I can make vbox only use 40% of my cpu
[03:52] <CoJaBo> Is there anyway to debug why ubuntu bionic (server) is freezing? has been stable for several weeks now, and now has frozen up twice in 2 days
[03:52] <slidinghorn> CoJaBo: try in #ubuntu+1
[03:52] <snuggerthanyou> Are you using a DE?
[04:01] <USERNAME00> is there a way i can change the bg color of the short transition between login and desktop?
[04:09] <granttrec> lightdm config USERNAME00
[04:21] <dunnousernamefn> Okay, so now my problem with virtualbox is: I'm trying to expose a web server from the vm to the host (port 80, to port 8880 or even just port 80 works), but I always get connection refused or it just times out
[04:22] <dunnousernamefn> I've tried using NAT, NAT network, bridged adapter, and uh...
[04:22] <dunnousernamefn> host-only adapter
[04:23] <dunnousernamefn> `ifconfig` on the guest always stays at 10.0.2.15 (and of course loopback), regardless of the type of connection
[04:25] <cfhowlett> dunnousernamefn, might want to query #vbox
[04:25] <granttrec> that’s out of my scope dunnousernamefn
[04:25] <dunnousernamefn> Oh, didn't know we had one of those
[04:29] <yosef> I am Trying to download Repository n update the Cache which server should I use?Thanks.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> yosef, localize your mirror through software settings
[04:30] <yosef> cfhowlett is that in software n updates?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> yep.  look at the settings.  go to software sources
[04:31] <yosef> download from?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> yep.  select "best"
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: speaking of the devil :p https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/04/ubuntu-studio-plans-to-reboot
[04:34] <yosef> cfhowlett got it it found the best. Thanks.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> I saw.  Good to know, as I found the non-LTS news a bit despressing.  Also, for once, OMG Ubuntu actually acknowledged US's existence.
[04:34] <cfhowlett> yosef, good job!
[04:34] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:34] <USERNAME000> Where?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> what?
[04:35] <USERNAME000> Who?
[04:35] <yosef> Danke
[04:35] <cfhowlett> bitte
[04:35] <USERNAME000> What, What.....
[04:37] <USERNAME000> So I'm running Bionic Beaver
[04:37] <USERNAME000> Noticed a few issues with qemu getting kvm permissions.
[04:37] <granttrec> continue USERNAME000
[04:38] <USERNAME000> when loading with --enable-kvm or straight up kvm i get unable to get kernel module permissions.
[04:38] <USERNAME000> on a clean install
[04:38] <USERNAME000> updated all of the things.
[04:39] <USERNAME000> I giggle a little every time I say "Beaver" by the way.
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> USERNAME000: #ubuntu+1 for bionic please
[04:46]  * apanama leaving
[04:49] <USERNAME000> When does BB drop?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> USERNAME000: drop?
[04:50] <USERNAME000> like it hot? Release.
[04:50] <granttrec> april 26 lol
[04:50] <USERNAME000> Ahh
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> USERNAME000: 26 april
[04:50] <USERNAME000> Thank you.
[04:51] <Guest14828> hi
[04:54] <cfhowlett> greetings Guest14828 ask your ubuntu question
[05:04] <protocol_hive> question here: im trying to install font via terminal and having a melt down. anyone got a easy walk though? looking to use https://github.com/MarinHoc/cherry-font.git
[05:10] <granttrec> protocol_hive, are you on x or wayland?
[05:10] <zaapiel> I'm curious how one goes about finding out the usb device name for dd?
[05:11] <protocol_hive> granttrec: x
[05:11] <granttrec> hmm idk then the instructions look pretty straigtforward, what are you stuck on?
[05:13] <granttrec> zaapiel, ls /dev/sda*
[05:13] <zaapiel> would device usb work for dd?
[05:13] <zaapiel> or is that a placeholder
[05:13] <zaapiel> k
[05:13] <zaapiel> ty
[05:14] <granttrec> zaapiel, df -h is more useful actutally
[05:17] <protocol_hive> granttrec: well, ive have never done this before. i understand that i would git clone source and then find donwload location, cd into dir and run make.sh? but im lost after that..
[05:18] <granttrec> have you run make.sh?
[05:19] <granttrec> eh protocol_hive
[05:20] <protocol_hive> granttrec: yes i have
[05:21] <granttrec> ok find the dir `out` then run the mv command
[05:21] <granttrec> `cherry-font/out` actually
[05:24] <Sircle> How to get rid of this extra color line $ sudo ps auxw |grep something
[05:24] <Sircle> user1     5376  0.0  0.0  14224   940 pts/1    S+   22:23   0:00 grep --color=auto something
[05:24] <protocol_hive> granttrec: yeah, i think im lost trying to find that dir... i dont know where it is located. there a easy way of finding?
[05:24] <moise> hi
[05:25] <granttrec> protocol_hive, find . -name `cherry-font`
[05:26] <granttrec> wait, you should be in dir `cherry-font` no?
[05:27] <granttrec> thats part of the search Sircle
[05:29] <granttrec> also no sudo needed
[05:29] <protocol_hive> granttrec: i put the github download in my downloads, ran make.sh from there
[05:29] <granttrec> ok there should be a dir called cherry-font in downloads then
[05:31] <granttrec> cd into that directory and follow the commands, out should be a sub dir protocol_hive
[05:31] <protocol_hive> granttrec: ok, yeah then im there already. sorry didnt notice
[05:31] <SlyG07> I'm new to the UNIX coding and have been trying to simply hash check my Ubuntu iso file, but I cannot seem to get the command line in the right directory.
[05:31] <SlyG07> Can anyone help?
[05:32] <granttrec> what type of hash SlyG07 ?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> 1.  unix ain't linux SlyG07
[05:32] <SlyG07> md5sums
[05:32] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | SlyG07
[05:32] <SlyG07> and sha256sums
[05:33] <SlyG07> I think my directories are messed up though.
[05:33] <SlyG07> I tried following this -- https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#4
[05:33] <Sircle> granttrec, I am trying to do something like this but the color thing will show that the service is onn always https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-a-simple-bash-script-to-restart-server-programs
[05:34] <SlyG07> cfhowlett: I've only learned this terminology in the past 2 hours, so I apologize if I am incorrect.
[05:34] <cfhowlett> :)  and it begins.  no worries.
[05:34] <granttrec> follow the posted link and check back SlyG07
[05:35] <SlyG07> I did. I am stuck at the terminal part granttrec .
[05:35] <SlyG07> Navigating the directory is a little confusing... if I even set it up correctly.
[05:36] <cfhowlett> setting up the directory?  what?  have you already installed ubuntu?
[05:36] <SlyG07> I think so...
[05:36] <granttrec> Sircle, thats what the script does
[05:36] <SlyG07> Ubuntu = terminal?
[05:36] <Sircle> granttrec,  what do you mean?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !details | SlyG07,
[05:37] <cfhowlett> SlyG07, I'm guessing you are using ubuntu on windows?
[05:37] <SlyG07> cfhowlett: yes
[05:37] <cfhowlett> that ain't ubuntu
[05:37] <SlyG07> Through the app, followed https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#4
[05:38] <cfhowlett> !wsl | SlyG07
[05:38] <granttrec> Sircle, "color thing will show that the service is onn always" thats the point of the script i think
[05:39] <SlyG07> ubottu: Thanks, I already enabled the Subsystem.
[05:39] <cfhowlett> SlyG07, if you merely want the terminal based experience, continue.  if you want to experience the true might and power of this OS, install virtualbox on windows, create a virtual machine and install ubuntu in the VM.
[05:40] <Sircle> granttrec,  I want to restart a service/ app if its not running
[05:40] <SlyG07> cfhowlett: I have done that as well already, haha. That's up and running, but I wanted to try the basics of this md5sum and sha256sums check.
[05:41] <protocol_hive> granttrec: when i run mkfontdir ~/Downloads/cherry-font/out it returns opendir: not a directory. I dont think im understanding
[05:41] <cfhowlett> you run hash checks on the .iso.  download the .iso.  do NOT extract the files.
[05:42] <SlyG07> Right, I know that's the typical order as you're confirming the .iso file is correct, but I have already downloaded everything into one file.
[05:42] <SlyG07> folder*
[05:42] <cfhowlett> then you did not follow the instructions.
[05:43] <SlyG07> Hmm...
[05:43] <cfhowlett> here's the deal.  download and save the .iso.
[05:43] <cfhowlett> Run has checks against the .iso.  but you said you already installed so ...
[05:43] <Sircle> granttrec,  it greps for any process matching name. If theres color. the match will always be true
[05:44] <SlyG07> Yeah, I already installed. I just wanted to practice the basics. Does having the iso installed affect the ability to run the checks?
[05:44] <SlyG07> I am working backwards in this regard.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> yes.  yes you are.
[05:45] <cfhowlett> we check the .iso BEFORE installation to ensure it's reliable.
[05:45] <granttrec> Sircle, grep is aliased to show colour and it is a process, so it will show up always, its not an extra line
[05:47] <SlyG07> Right. I got to the point where I was lost at the Windows Ubuntu terminal trying to navigate the directory. Then, I just went ahead and installed the .iso file. Now I am just trying to see what I did wrong to troubleshoot and figure out whether the checks are still okay.
[05:47] <SlyG07> ...for future file checks, I will at least have a process down.
[05:47] <SlyG07> the*
[05:47] <zaapiel> dudes dd messed my usb thing up so now i dont see it with df -h
[05:48] <zaapiel> any ideas?
[05:48] <zaapiel> i used to see /dev/sdc1
[05:48] <zaapiel> now i see nothing for it
[05:48] <cfhowlett> I'm not certain you even download a .iso for the windows based system.  you might be better served in the ubuntu-windows channel
[05:48] <Sircle> granttrec,  if I get shown the color always then this line will always be true if [ $? != 0 ]
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !wsl | SlyG07
[05:49] <granttrec> lol what did you do with the usb? zaapiel
[05:49] <granttrec> be careful with dd
[05:50] <zaapiel> i was trying to burn trueos whcih is freebsd based and issued the command dd if=tureos.ius.img of=/dec/sdc1
[05:50] <zaapiel> i didnt use blocksize since it didnt reconfginize 1m
[05:50] <zaapiel> it doesnt see the  usb drive now
[05:51] <zaapiel> is it broke?
[05:51] <cfhowlett> zaapiel,do you have ubuntu installed?
[05:51] <zaapiel> yes
[05:52] <granttrec> use startup disk creator
[05:52] <cfhowlett> nope
[05:52] <zaapiel> zaapiel@zaapiel-27-p120qe ~/Downloads $ df -h
[05:52] <zaapiel> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:52] <zaapiel> udev            7.8G     0  7.8G   0% /dev
[05:52] <zaapiel> tmpfs           1.6G  9.6M  1.6G   1% /run
[05:52] <cfhowlett> startup disk creator is a dedicated UBUNTU usb creator.  won't fly other OS's
[05:52] <zaapiel> tmpfs           7.8G  1.9M  7.8G   1% /dev/shm
[05:52] <zaapiel> tmpfs           5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
[05:53] <granttrec> true, my bad cfhowlett
[05:53] <cfhowlett> no worries
[05:53] <akik> zaapiel: of=/dev/sdc
[05:53] <cfhowlett> zaapiel, cat /etc/issue | pastebinit
[05:57] <granttrec> Sircle, yep
[05:58] <granttrec> still works although not written well
[06:01] <granttrec> eh "written well"
[06:14] <bax3l33t> Hello
[06:15] <cfhowlett> greetings bax3l33t what is your ubuntu ??
[06:15] <bax3l33t> ubuntu 17.10
[06:17] <bax3l33t> i have some question about sound servers
[06:18] <chendong> hell
[06:18] <chendong> hello
[06:18] <cfhowlett> greetings chendong ask your ubuntu questions
[06:18] <chendong> ?
[06:18] <cfhowlett> !sound | bax3l33t see this first
[06:19] <chendong> budong
[06:19] <cfhowlett> chendong, eh?
[06:22] <anonymip> I get this message about every 15min, I understand many ppl see this. Is it anything to worry about? kernel: CIFS VFS: Free previous auth_key.response
[06:23] <bax3l33t> thanks for links but its special i have no sound with the mamedev project= mame
[06:24] <cfhowlett> anonymip, seems to be kernel related.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1021939/cifs-vfs-free-previous-auth-key-response
[06:25] <anonymip> ok, what do I do about it? I run ubuntu 17.10
[06:26] <cfhowlett> anonymip, I didn't see the fix in the top google responses.  update the kernels?
[07:15] <pagios_> hello, i tried buring a windows.iso file on unetbootin and dd command and tried to set the bootflag on using fdisk toggle, still icant boot my iso even though the files have been extracted correctly on the usb what can be the problem? the bootprocess just skips usb boot even when i select it from bios
[07:15] <pagios_> hello, i tried buring a windows.iso file on unetbootin and dd command and tried to set the bootflag on using fdisk toggle, still icant boot my iso even though the files have been extracted correctly on the usb what can be the problem? the bootprocess just skips usb boot even when i select it from bios
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> !winusb | pagios
[07:24] <Triffid_Hunter> lotuspsychje: hm, can I use that to start off a dual boot usb properly?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Triffid_Hunter: what do you mean a dualboot usb, persistent?
[07:26] <Triffid_Hunter> lotuspsychje: well I have a dualboot at the moment with win10 installer and mint 18 live, but the win installer always complains about having no drivers but won't say what drivers it's looking for
[07:26] <Triffid_Hunter> I'm wondering if it simply doesn't like how I've set up the USB but as usual it's impossible to debug because it doesn't actually give any information about the problem
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> Triffid_Hunter: we dont support mint & windows
[07:27] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah I know, but I hadn't heard of this tool before, wondering how much you've played with it
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> Triffid_Hunter: winusb is a tool to create a windows usb from .iso thats all
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> Triffid_Hunter: ##windows if you need help on booting/rescue windows
[07:30] <gogeta> Triffid_Hunter, kinda making things over complex when you can get 3 packs of 16gb sticks for 20$
[07:30] <Triffid_Hunter> gogeta: sure, but I only want one on my keyring :P
[07:32] <gogeta> Triffid_Hunter,getting windows 10 to do anything is tricky lol
[07:33] <MJCD> " The dream of an Ubuntu Phone is dead, Canonical announced today, putting an end to the long and winding journey for handsets that once promised to offer an alternative to the major mobile operating systems. "
[07:33] <MJCD> wtf why
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | MJCD
[07:33] <gogeta> MJCD, its been dead for some time
[08:00] <lindbergio> Has anyone figured out how to disable screen orientation in Bionic? I have tried setting the 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchscreen orientation-lock' key to 'true' and 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.orientation active' key to 'false'.
[08:01] <lindbergio> Will ask this in #ubuntu+1 instead
[08:04] <louis__22> is there anyone can help me ?
[08:05] <louis__22> I have installed ubuntu 14.04, while i find there is no voice when I play any video.
[08:10] <louis__22> anyone can provide any sugesstion to me?
[08:13] <TJ-> louis__22: By 'voice' do you mean 'sound' output?
[08:14] <hateball> louis__22: Is this local media, or from say youtube in a browser?
[08:16] <Triffid_Hunter> louis__22: is there other sounds but no voice? set your soundcard to 2-channel rather than surround, or make sure you're using the right port.. ran into that the other day, was very strange for a while ;)
[08:22] <louis__22> @louis_22: My computer is a desktop computer and can only listen to music through headphones. However, when listening to online music or online video, no sound can be heard from the headphones
[08:23] <hateball> louis__22: but you get audio from local files?
[08:26] <TJ-> louis__22: on 14.04 that might be an issue related to how the browser connects to the sound devices. There were some issues some years ago where it'd try to directly use the ALSA device, instead of using the Pulseaudio sound multiplexer
[08:28] <hateball> louis__22: If this is a fresh install it's an odd choice in my opinion to go with 14.04 which goes EOL in a year. Rather than 16.04 or even 18.04 (which is out in a few days)
[08:54] <leeyaa> hello. does anyone know a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1590799
[08:54] <leeyaa> i cant start nfs
[08:55] <leeyaa> i am on latest xenial
[09:07] <leeyaa> anyone? :)
[09:09] <guiverc> leeyaa: it states its fixed for xenial; is your system up-to-date?
[09:11] <guiverc> a number of work-arounds are provided in the long bugreport (most are for xenial)
[09:13]  * USERNAME00 does a barrel roll into the room.
[09:13] <leeyaa> guiverc: i tried all, still cant start it
[09:14] <leeyaa> system is very recent, 1-2 weeks
[09:15] <Flannel>  https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f6/13/6f/f6136fd24612515802088de14743002c.jpg
[09:15] <Flannel> dangit.
[09:18] <guiverc> sorry leeyaa, i can't see anything else
[09:19] <c1747680> hi all
[09:19] <phil42> hi
[09:25] <alholou0-0920923> still have no voice in my headphone after try many method in this website
[09:25] <alholou0-0920923> https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[09:26] <louis__22>  still have no voice in my headphone after try many method in this website.  https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[09:27] <louis__22> I'm deading...for this problem
[09:28] <leeyaa> guiverc: just tried updating to latest packages. same thing ...
[09:29] <leeyaa> even dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work for it
[09:29] <leeyaa> ./usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: nfs-kernel-server is broken or not fully installed
[09:29] <leeyaa> i tried purging as well
[09:33] <saurabh> louis__22: tried pavucontrol?
[09:57] <oxff_> hi, did anyone install bionic via debootstrap yet?
[09:57] <RyanRT> I have a question regarding installation of Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS from a USB thumbstick to a 2008 macbook
[09:57] <oxff_> at least when installing with the trusty debootstrap package, i don't get /bin, /usr, etc in destination directory
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[09:57] <oxff_> but /debootstrap
[09:58] <oxff> commandline was # debootstrap --arch amd64 bionic /mnt
[09:58] <oxff> i modified the /usr/lib/debootstrap symlink for bionic to point to xenial
[09:58] <oxff> used to point to gutsy iirc
[09:59] <cluelessperson> How do you fix ubuntu's routing to handle multiple interfaces?
[09:59] <RyanRT> I have just finished installing the OS from the USB onto my Macbook and after the install process and upon reboot I am now seeing the install screen again rather then it booting to the od
[10:00] <RyanRT> is it as simple as that I have not removed the thumbstick from the macbook before i rebooted
[10:01] <cluelessperson> RyanRT: possibly, try it
[10:01] <BluesKaj> cluelessperson, what kind of multiple interfaces, more detail is in order
[10:01] <RyanRT> ok so simply power off the laptop remove the thumbdrive and power her back up
[10:01] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: I'm connected to my own network, WIFI, and Ethernet.  192.168.2.*, and 192.168.0.*, I cannot ping on the non-default route
[10:01] <cluelessperson> RyanRT: sure, try it. :P
[10:02] <RyanRT> why not right here we go sitting here with two laptops on my lap lol
[10:04] <BluesKaj> what's your "non default route", cluelessperson ? This cryptic speak isn't getting us anywhere, enough with the techno babble
[10:04] <cluelessperson> default via 192.168.0.1 dev enp0s25  proto static  metric 100
[10:04] <cluelessperson> ping -I wlp4s0 192.168.0.1   fails
[10:05] <cluelessperson> wlp4s0  is 192.168.2.2 subnet
[10:05] <RyanRT> Well that was easy, that was a rather foolish question in hindsight lol, I was just hesitant cause I had not held down the Control/alt key on this bloody macbook which brings it to the boot from drive menu
[10:06] <RyanRT> but it must just default to that when theres a drive connected to the usb port
[10:06] <BluesKaj> cluelessperson, looks like your gateway and ethernet, check /etc/resolv,conf
[10:06] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: huh?
[10:06] <RyanRT> Thank you kindly for your assistance cluelessperson
[10:07] <BluesKaj> don't then
[10:09] <BluesKaj> cluelessperson, the nameserver could be wrong, it's a bug
[10:11] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: ..
[10:11] <BluesKaj> cluelessperson, it should read,  nameserver 127.0.0.53
[10:11] <cluelessperson> 127.0.0.1:53 ?
[10:11] <BluesKaj> yup
[10:11] <BluesKaj> no nameserver 127.0.0.53
[10:12] <BluesKaj> there;'s no 1 there
[10:12] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: I'm not having a nameserver issue
[10:12] <BluesKaj> how do you know?
[10:13] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: wtf are you talking about
[10:13] <cluelessperson> it's a routing issue
[10:14]  * BluesKaj shrugs, ok nm, cluelessperson, then I guess you know the answer
[10:14] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: can you stop being an ass?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> ahh, now the insults begin...just making a suggestion
[10:16] <BluesKaj> sorry for wasting your time, cluelessperson , I'm not here to trade insults
[10:16] <cluelessperson> BluesKaj: No, you made a nonsensical suggestion, then were sarcastic when I said that it was nonsensical, effectively wasting my time
[10:16] <cluelessperson> if you're going to play games, at least be funny
[10:17] <JimBuntu> I'll trade insults, but I don't trade fairly.
[10:17] <chu> Moving on now....
[10:18] <BluesKaj> i have nothing more to say ...good luck cluelessperson
[10:18] <JimBuntu> To the point, it sounds like you need to manually add a route to your tables, specifically that 192.168.x.x should go over the correct interface
[10:18] <cluelessperson> JimBuntu: the issue is that this is a highly mobile machine, those routes and interfaces will changes often
[10:19] <JimBuntu> You provided your IPs, but I don't remember seeing your netmask. Could the netmask be too wide?
[10:19] <cluelessperson> JimBuntu: it's /24 per
[10:20] <JimBuntu> Ok, shouldn't be the netmask then. I don't see it, may have missed it, did you post a pastebin of your routing config? i.e. route -n
[10:23] <JimBuntu> Wait, were you pinging via a specific device that is NOT part of the network you were pinging?
[10:44] <foo357> Hello, I'm getting a very slow transfer speed when scp'ing data from host "B" to "A" . In the other direction (data from A to B) the speed is normal. (All transfers are initiated on host A). I've done a internet speed test on host "B" and the results are ok.
[10:45] <foo357> What I'm wondering is if there are some more checks I can do on host "B" to determine if anything is causing trouble, otherwise I guess the issue should lie in the network between the hosts.
[10:46] <JimBuntu> foo357, You say you have done internet speed tests on B, have you performed those speed tests using another server in the same area as A or only the 'fastest and closest possible" as most speedtests do by default?
[11:04] <foo357> JimBuntu: Yes, I've done a couple internet speed tests, selecting a different servers.
[11:06] <foo357> JimBuntu: Network speeds to the internet is fine, the only thing I can see is not ok is network speed B --> A (the other direction is ok, A --> B)
[11:06] <foo357> JimBuntu: I guess maybe I should look into how I can diagnose the local network?
[11:09] <pranav> Hi all, I was trying random command to upgrade python to 3.6 in ubuntu.
[11:10] <pranav> and for some reasons my "sudo add-apt-repository" command now always fails saying "sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/add-apt-repository: No such file or directory Hangup"
[11:10] <pranav> Kindly help me guys, I am stuck since 3 hours now
[11:11] <kalipso> hey guys, we are using snap for lxd. it updated lxd 2.0 to lxd 3.0 which broke everything, how can i downgrade to lxd 2.0 using snap?
[11:14] <peet1> @pranav which ubuntu version
[11:16] <pranav> 16.04
[11:16] <pranav> if i give complete path of command along with python3.5, then it works. otherwise all command fail
[11:16] <pranav> how to fix it
[11:18] <Ool> did you install software-properties-common  and python-software-properties  to have add-apt-repository ?
[11:19] <pranav> Ool: yes, i tried installing them, it says already installed
[11:19] <pranav> if i do "python3.5 /usr/bin/lsb_release -a" it works. "lsb_release -a" fails
[11:20] <pranav> i broke all apt commands and other commands in my server
[11:21] <Ool> :(
[11:21] <Ool> did you broke it for all the users or just one ?
[11:22] <Ool> (create a new one and try)
[11:22] <pranav> it only have 2 users, ubuntu and root
[11:22] <JimBuntu> Running random commands is bad.
[11:23] <elk> hello
[11:23] <elk> hello
[11:23] <elk> anyone there?
[11:23] <JimBuntu> elk, there are 1613 "people" that are not here
[11:24] <BluesKaj> elk, juat ask your question
[11:24] <elk> how to use proxychains on ubuntu
[11:25] <elk> i got weird error. it just closes the terminal
[11:25] <elk> after following the steps from online article
[11:25] <elk> does anyone know?
[11:26] <tsglove> elk hello
[11:26] <oerheks> elk, without your ubuntu version, what guide you followed, how could we know?
[11:26] <tsglove> I' m not sure
[11:27] <turbo64> is there a way to disable that annoying program not responding popup in gnome
[11:28] <tsglove> Guys, I dd copied my 250gb ssd to a new 1tb ssd.  The original 250 had xubuntu installed with full disk LUKS encryption.  Now, the 1tb boots as it should, yet I have failed to "expand"  the size.   I was able to expand the partition where the luks crypt resides, yet I was unable to expand the luks crypt itself once un-encrypted.
[11:28] <tsglove> Any thoughts? I am trying not to have to re-install the entire OS on this new 1tb ssd.
[11:30] <pranav> I fixed it. looks like when i pasted some random command from stackoverflow. it deleted my symlink /usr/bin/python3
[11:30] <pranav> recreated it to point to correct python3.5
[11:30] <pranav> now able to run all commanda again. thanks guys.. my bad
[11:30] <Ool> tsglove: I never try it but it's seems possible to resize a LUKS
[11:31] <Ool> but perhaps it's quicky to reinstall your computer :|
[11:31] <Ool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[11:31] <tsglove> Ool, yeah I know!  Yet last night I hammered it about two hours until I gave up and went to sleep.
[11:31] <tsglove> checking that link out now...
[11:32] <tsglove> Ool, ohh nice I didn't see that one last night.  I did see a LOT of pages... yet... couldn't get it to work.   I have the original 250GB ssd unplugged, which is my backup.
[11:32] <tsglove> Amazingly, doing dd with bs=128M moved all the data in less than an hour
[11:32] <tsglove> or about an hour
[11:32] <oerheks> turbo64, disable apport >> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/disable-error-reporting-ubuntu-1604/
[12:01] <hollusion> hello
[12:02] <EriC^^> hi
[12:02] <hollusion> i set up a samba share, but the clients dont have permission to write on it. (server=ubuntu, client=linuxmint)
[12:03] <hateball> hollusion: not an answer to your question, but why not just use NFS or sshfs if all machines are linux?
[12:04] <hateball> way less headache in my experience
[12:04] <hollusion> because the share needs to be accesible to windows clients
[12:04] <hollusion> my bad :(
[12:04] <hateball> :)
[12:20] <leftyfb> hollusion: is the directory on your drive writable by whatever user samba runs as?
[12:20] <leftyfb> hollusion: also, linux mint isn't supported here
[12:20] <leftyfb> hollusion: thoug I guess it looks like you're running ubuntu as the samba server
[12:21] <hollusion> exactly, im checking permissions now
[12:23] <netochka> Hey all
[12:24] <netochka> I want to reduce my keyboard backlite. I remember doing it once on terminal. and i could set it from 1 to 4 (or 3)
[12:26] <hateball> netochka: xset led 3
[12:26] <netochka> hateball. It seems that it doesn't change anything :/
[12:27] <hateball> netochka: are you on wayland?
[12:27] <netochka> wayland? is that a distro?
[12:27] <hateball> I dont know if xset works if you do
[12:28] <saurabh> display server
[12:28] <hateball> netochka: no, a display server
[12:28] <netochka> i tried sxet led off and it definitely doesn't effect anything
[12:28] <hateball> iirc 17.10 + gnome is wayland by default?
[12:28] <saurabh> yup
[12:28]  * hateball runs kubuntu + nvidia blob so wayland is out of the question
[12:28] <netochka> hateball, i assume i have to say no.
[12:29] <netochka> i'm using ubuntu 16.04 lts on asus zenbook. donno if that answers your q
[12:29] <hateball> yeah that should not be running wayland by default
[12:30] <netochka> i remember finding a command in forums. but now i can't find that topic
[12:30] <hateball> netochka: googling gives https://askubuntu.com/questions/644410/cannot-turn-on-keyboard-backlight
[12:30] <hateball> not sure if applicable to you
[12:31] <netochka> hateball, YES! that is the one. Ty
[12:31] <hateball> netochka: :)
[12:34] <confluency> IIRC you can choose at login whether you want GNOME + Wayland or GNOME + Xorg.
[12:34] <confluency> (I upgraded and I use a completely different WM, so I have no idea what a clean install does.)
[12:39] <saurabh> by default ubuntu will start in wayland, you have to select Xorg from the gears menu if you want to start with different display server
[12:47] <netochka> saurabh, where in settings exactly?
[12:47] <saurabh> on your login screen
[12:48] <saurabh> not sure how it is 16.04
[12:48] <netochka> oh i see. the drop menu next to password box?
[12:48] <saurabh> yup
[12:48] <netochka> yea i don't have that. but i know what u mean.
[12:48] <netochka> had it on xubuntu i think
[12:49] <maunix> Hi All. I messup with upgrading my linux from 14.04 to 17.10... i did that by editing the sources.list, doing and apt-get update and then and apt-get upgrade. The problem is that now I have a lot of missing files or files that wont get installed because of those missing files.  Googling gave me a lot of answers but none worked.  The most significant problem is that i have errors of ldconfig not found and
[12:49] <maunix> locales broken.  The paths are OK. Any hints?
[12:49] <maunix> may be installing that manually or something like that but using aptitude or apt-get  or dpkg doesnt work at all.
[12:50] <maunix> I have it installed on a 32-bit netbook , using the i386 repositories.
[12:50] <akik> maunix: i don't think you upgrade ubuntu that way. where did you find that guidance?
[12:50] <slidinghorn> maunix: that's definitely not the recommended upgrade path...unfortunately I personally don't have any clue how to fix something like that.  Does  apt -f install  do anything helpful?
[12:50] <EriC^^> maunix: reinstall time
[12:51]  * slidinghorn agrees with EriC^^ 
[12:51] <maunix> EriC^^: i should get off my home folder then
[12:52] <maunix> i mean copy it to a pendrive.
[12:52] <EriC^^> maunix: yeah, maybe copy the list of installed packages too
[12:53] <maunix> its a simple installation, only lxde, firefox and libreoffice. not much else.
[12:53] <EriC^^> alright cool
[13:13] <CheetahPixie> okay
[13:14] <CheetahPixie> i have an actual question
[13:14] <CheetahPixie> the compression function in ubuntu caches on the local partition
[13:14] <CheetahPixie> is there any way i can make it cache elsewhere, like at the target?
[13:14] <CheetahPixie> this is preventing many hundred gigabytes of files from being compressed
[13:17] <blackflow> CheetahPixie: compression function? Which one?
[13:18] <CheetahPixie> blackflow: in the right click menu
[13:19] <blackflow> CheetahPixie: oh the file manager. Well I guess it's simplified for frequent use case. If you need advanced compression functionality, you can always descend to the command line and use zip, or tar.
[13:19] <CheetahPixie> I want to use 7zip to compress hard disk images
[13:20] <CheetahPixie> thought it was something in 7zip caching on /
[13:20] <CheetahPixie> not sure; dumping another image atm
[13:21] <hollusion> leftyfb, it was exactly what you thought
[13:21] <hollusion> chown fixed the problem, thank you
[13:22] <CheetahPixie> it's always refreshing to see cases solved like this
[13:25] <chriys> morning
[13:25] <chriys> I'm runing a php command in my terminal and I get this error: Locale not installed
[13:26] <blackflow> chriys: which locale specifically? you can enable them with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> chriys, are you able to run other PHP scripts in the terminal?
[13:27] <iamvain> Hi, I'm trying to automate the install if ubuntu server 16.04, so far I have succeeded, but I can't find the `preseed` option that would let me stop the installer from trying to update the system
[13:27] <chriys> yeah
[13:28] <pragmaticenigma> chriys, if you are able to run other PHP scripts with out any issue. Then your issue is the PHP script which we cannot support. You will need to contact the author of that PHP script for help
[13:29] <chriys> ok thanks
[13:29] <blackflow> chriys: I've seen that a lot. PHP using setlocale() for a specific locale, you just need to find out what it was and enable it with dpkg-reconfigure.
[13:30] <dannax> Hi!, it seems like ve.archive.ubuntu.com is not working properly anymore
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> dannax, What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:33] <dannax> @pragmaticenigma 17.10 server and desktop, also running lubuntu desktop on a different machine.
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> are you able to reach the site manually by typing it into your web browser?
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> dannax, are you able to reach the site manually by typing it into your web browser?
[13:36] <dannax> pragmaticenigma, yes, but it takes a while
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> dannax, I can access it from my location without issue no perceivable latency. I would offer that your ISP may be experiencing some issues, or your region is having general congestion issues, in either case it will likely correct itself
[13:38] <s10gopal> anyone facing battery drain when  laptop is powered off ?
[13:40] <dannax> pragmaticenigma, I thought it might be a temporary issue, I'm reporting it right now after few days using it, there is a 50/50 chance to connect to the server
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> dannax, I would contact your ISP then. There are no issues being reported elsewhere
[13:41] <pragmaticenigma> dannax, the other thing to consider is trying a different DNS provider
[13:42] <dannax> pragmaticenigma, I'll try. thanks
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> s10gopal, If you are having power drain issues when the computer is powered off, you will need to contact your computer manufacture or an authorized repair center.
[13:44] <s10gopal> pragmaticenigma: i am asking that because it is bug , and if more users test it , it can be solved easily https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[13:45] <metRo_> can anyone help me why my disk access slowdown after start firefox?
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> s10gopal, cross posting is against the code of conduct for this channel. You have registered a bug with launchpad, you will have to wait until they work on it and determine a solution.
[13:47] <leeyaa> hi
[13:47] <leeyaa> does anyone know how to workaround this error when trying to start NFS: nfs-server.service: Job nfs-server.service/start failed with result 'dependency'
[13:48] <leeyaa> using latest xenial
[13:48] <leeyaa> struggling for a few hours now ;p
[13:48] <leftyfb> s10gopal: you have been asking in here for 3 months. Please stop. There's a bug. It will get noticed by developers. None of which are in this channel.
[13:49] <gareppa> if i use full disk encryption and my linux installation gets corrupted, can i access the disk with some live distro?
[13:50] <leftyfb> gareppa: yes, using cryptsetup ... if the encryption headers didn't get corrupted
[13:51] <Bu4nka> Hey guys, anyone willing to help me with some internal hd mounting problems please?
[13:52] <hateball> !ask | Bu4nka
[13:52] <leftyfb> s10gopal: in fact, you have jsalisbury who just posted progress on your bug less than 24 hours ago. He's one of the lead kernel developers for Ubuntu. you REALLY need to learn patience.
[13:53] <s10gopal> leftyfb: a user here was also facing the same issue , i am finding him.
[13:53] <leftyfb> s10gopal: doesn't matter. You have one of the top ubuntu kernel team members on it. There's nothing to do be done further in this channel
[13:55] <Bu4nka> so i got a dual boot for windows and ubuntu on separate hd's. them i got another hd with three ntfs partitions. I used to be able to access every partition and disk from both systems. i took the disks out of the pc and out them back in, same order in connections and now in Ubuntu when i try to access any of the ntfs disk i get this message:
[13:55] <Bu4nka> Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/k/9CDC8477DC844D88: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000" "/dev/sda1" "/media/k/9CDC8477DC844D88"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[13:55] <Bu4nka> Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted
[13:55] <Bu4nka> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[13:55] <Bu4nka> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[13:55] <Bu4nka> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[13:56] <slidinghorn> !paste > Bu4nka
[13:56] <s10gopal> leftyfb: why Rafael is not trusting the git bisect result ?
[13:56] <leeyaa> hm why would mount complain for missing module
[13:56] <leeyaa> is there any difference between nfs and nfsd ?
[13:57] <leftyfb> s10gopal: again, not only do I not know what you're talking about, please take further discussion to the bug report itself or in #ubuntu-kernel
[13:57] <hateball> Bu4nka: Is this Windows 10? If so you may need to disable "fast boot" as it doesnt properly unmount the partitions in Windows, that's why Ubuntu puts it in read-only
[13:58] <Bu4nka> hateball: No, win 8.1
[13:59] <Menzador> (the same applies, the feature was first included in Windows 8(.0))
[14:00] <Bu4nka> disable fast boot in BIOS?
[14:00] <hateball> Bu4nka: No, it's a setting in Windows
[14:00] <Menzador> In the Power Options control panel
[14:00] <Menzador> uncheck "Enable fast startup"
[14:00] <Bu4nka> and this affects the ubuntu access to these disks?
[14:01] <hateball> Bu4nka: Yes, because Windows doesnt fully shutdown which leaves the partitions in a "dirty" state
[14:02] <s10gopal> hateball: press f10+ A then you will be in advance bios options
[14:02] <Bu4nka> ok. thanks im gonna try it and ill be back! just one question, whats the command to reply with someone's nick in the beggining like u guys do?
[14:03] <hateball> !tab | Bu4nka
[14:03] <jerichowasahoax> Bu4nka: type the first few characters of their nick then press tab, usually
[14:03] <Bu4nka> ubottu: ;) Thanks, it's been more than a few years since i last been on irc
[14:05] <saurabh> ^oh no, this bot is a nihilist
[14:18] <Buanka> Disks working perfect, thanx a lot guys!
[14:20] <fairuz> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and trying to install unixodbc-dev. But I got Depends: unixodbc (= 2.2.14p2-5ubuntu5) error. Any hints to fix this? Thanks (full output when installing is here https://pastebin.com/p4vv4M0u)
[14:21] <CoolerZ> how do i update to the latest gcc?
[14:21] <CoolerZ> gcc (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9) 5.4.0 20160609
[14:21] <CoolerZ> right now thats installed
[14:22] <slidinghorn> !latest | CoolerZ
[14:23] <Bu4nka> Heu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre?
[14:23] <Humatiel> fairuz: normally that is caused by non-standard repositories being enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:24] <CoolerZ> slidinghorn, version 5 is pretty fricking old
[14:24] <fairuz> Humatiel That is correct. I'm using DigitalOcean, so they have their own mirror in sources.list
[14:24] <CoolerZ> how do i get the latest?
[14:25] <slidinghorn> CoolerZ: well you have the version that came with an Ubuntu LTS that came out 4 years ago, so that's probably to be expected.  There's the possibility of upgrading to 16.04 to see if its version is more up-to-speed for you, or, you could build it from source, however, that is likely to cause problems.
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, Updating to a more recent version Ubuntu is one way to get a more updated version of GCC. Also, is there something in particular about the newer release of gcc that your project requires?
[14:27] <slidinghorn> CoolerZ: actually, I'm mixing your message with fairuz's, my mistake
[14:27] <geirha> fairuz: apt-cache policy unixodbc-dev unixodbc odbcinst1debian2
[14:27] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: is there a specific reason you need it?
[14:27] <CoolerZ> yes
[14:27] <asir> a
[14:28] <CoolerZ> so do i have to switch to debian?
[14:28] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[14:28] <CoolerZ> or whichever actually updates their packages
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, can you be more specific as to what you are looking for in the updated gcc version?
[14:28] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, that wasn't my question
[14:28] <fairuz> geirha https://pastebin.com/8NtVTmUT
[14:29] <fairuz> thanks
[14:29] <Humatiel> CoolerZ: if your looking for "bleeding-edge" then Ubuntu LTS is not the right distro for the job. The goal is stability and security.
[14:29] <CoolerZ> Humatiel, ok so debian then?
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, This wasn't your question? [16:21] <CoolerZ> how do i update to the latest gcc?
[14:30] <geirha> fairuz: so you have two of the packages from some microsoft repo, but the dev one is only from the regular repos
[14:30] <slidinghorn> CoolerZ: well, responding to one of the multiple people asking what you need from a newer gcc version would be helpful - also Debian is likely to be even further behind
[14:31] <CoolerZ> slidinghorn, no
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, We are asking what you are looking for in the updated version, because there is chance the package maintainers may have backported a bug fix, security patch, or feature
[14:32] <Bu4nka> Heu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre? its been happening for the last few days..
[14:32] <hollusion> for a windows client connecting to a samba share on ubuntu it shouldnt be an issue that the data is stored on a ext4 partition, right?
[14:32] <leftyfb> Bu4nka: what version of ubuntu? What desktop environment? (default, Unity?)
[14:32] <leftyfb> hollusion: correc
[14:32] <leftyfb> hollusion: correct
[14:33] <hollusion> thank you
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, if we know what you are specifically looking for, we can help. Otherwise, we are limited to supporting only the packages that are provided in the package repositories.
[14:33] <Bu4nka> leftyfb:  ubuntu 16.04 LTS default environment
[14:33] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, i am looking for printf_s
[14:35] <fairuz> geirha oh ok. Hmm
[14:36] <geirha> fairuz: if you downgrade the two packages, you'd be able to install that dev package, but there may be a reason the microsoft repo doesn't have it. Perhaps it simply includes the header files with the "regular" package
[14:36] <leftyfb> Bu4nka: what happens when you run "gnome-software" from the command line?
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, I cannot find any documentation on that function. The only item that shows up in my search is: The gcc compiler doesn't support those optional "safe" functions, you'll need to use the normal standard functions like printf(). I don't know if gcc ever intends on supporting those optional functions, unless actually required by a future standard.
[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ, according to the documentation these are the only supported print function: https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Formatted-Output-Functions.html
[14:39] <fairuz> geirha I can try to downgrade those packages if it may help
[14:41] <Buanka> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3zmBwJm5F/
[14:42] <fairuz> geirha I managed to install the dev package. Let see if this thing works. :)
[14:45] <styx-tdo> hi, can someone help me w/ apt-pinning? I have pined, prio 1001, but apt still does install the other version.
[14:47] <styx-tdo> .. ok. it is too late for me. - issue was the * in front of the _installed_ package
[14:50] <Buanka> Heu guys any idea why i cant open the software centre? its been happening for the last few days.. running ubuntu 16.04 LTS default environment . when i go to the terminal to open it i get this:   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3zmBwJm5F/
[14:50] <rich_> real life?
[14:52] <leftyfb> rich_: can we help you with something?
[14:52] <blingrang> !ppa
[14:52] <slidinghorn> !patience > Buanka
[14:52] <blingrang> !patience | blingrang
[14:53] <rich_> somes ubusntos not work with old pc
[14:53] <leftyfb> rich_: can you be more specific?
[14:54] <rich_> I have a Pentium 4 . but I cant install las ubuntu.
[14:56] <leftyfb> rich_: what is "las ubuntu"?
[14:56] <rich_> sorry, last Ubuntu,
[14:56] <leftyfb> rich_: which version exactly?
[14:56] <tgm4883> !details | rich_
[14:56] <rich_> I installed ubuntu mate.
[14:57] <leftyfb> rich_: which version?
[14:57] <rich_> let me see
[14:58] <leftyfb> rich_: cat /etc/issue
[15:00] <slidinghorn> Buanka: A lot of the results I'm seeing from searching similar problems suggest the following may help:   sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:02] <rich_> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[15:03] <leftyfb> rich_: what error do you get when you try to install Ubuntu Mate 16.04.3?
[15:04] <tgm4883> rich_: You're not charged by the word count. What exactly is the problem, because "I cant install las ubuntu." and "I installed ubuntu mate." aren't exactly compatible.
[15:05] <rich_> thnaks Lftyfb!!
[15:09] <rich_> I must go. we see again. bye
[15:11] <Buanka> slidinghorn: Didnt help. also tried killing the process and restart it to no avail
[15:12] <TheGrumpyScot> Q. NFS mount which mounted successfully cannot be unmounted, reports "/path/to/mountpoint" was not found in /proc/mounts ... OS is 12.04.5 - How do I umount said mount point ?
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, where is the device mounted to? Is there any application current accessing a file within the mounted folder
[15:14] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: No apps using said mount point or files within it - and it's mounted into a blank folder created in my ~
[15:15] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, can you explain "blank" folder.. Do you mean empty directory?
[15:15] <slidinghorn> Buanka: do you have any PPAs enabled?
[15:15] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: yes blank folder / empty directory
[15:16] <Buanka> slidinghorn: yes
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, thanks for clarifying
[15:16] <slidinghorn> Buanka: please pastebin your sources.list
[15:17] <Buanka> slidinghorn: how do i find it?
[15:17] <slidinghorn> Buanka: oh, sorry:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:20] <slidinghorn> Buanka: also, check to see if there are any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    if so, pastebin those, as well :)
[15:20] <Buanka> slidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtWd2fQVj2/
[15:23] <slidinghorn> Buanka: one thing I'm seeing off the bat is that you have a repository from a different release enabled, which *probably* isn't the issue, but isn't a good thing.
[15:23] <Buanka> slidinghorn: which one?
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, can you post us the link to the results of "df | pastebinit"
[15:24] <Buanka> slidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C4BNVg2Xnp/
[15:24] <slidinghorn> the last one (grive-tools) - it's for Vivid, and you're running Xenial
[15:24] <yosef> Hello I am Trying to download Updates and updating the cache but no luck. also say there is no release file. anyone can help,Thanks.
[15:25] <slidinghorn> Buanka: (also, that particular PPA hasn't been updated in over 3 years...)
[15:25] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: https://node86.com/pastebin/gp68f
[15:27] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, And "sudo umount /home/alan/mp" does not unmount the folder?
[15:28] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: no, running umount via sudo or as root produces exactly the same response; ie not found in /proc/mounts
[15:29] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: and nothing in /etc/fstab is referencing wither the share or the new mount point - this is simply me testing the share in my home space prior to running on production boxes
[15:29] <Buanka> slidinghorn: which ppa?
[15:30] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, fstab is only for permanent mounts for booting. /etc/mtab is where user mounts exist... I think I found a option, is this shared folder samba?
[15:30] <slidinghorn> Buanka: the grive-tools ppa (the last one listed in your sources.list you posted)
[15:31] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: no, it's ans nfs mount, not samba - so listed in /etc/exports on the remote (.23)
[15:33] <Buanka> slidinghorn: checked it off the list, updated cache but still a no go
[15:33] <topi`> is there an easy way to upgrade from Trusty to Utopic? I g want to upgrade to newest LTS, but probably can't do it without increments?
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, by any chance is the remote host of the share been powered down or disconnected from the network?
[15:34] <topi`> would it be possible to upgrade from trusty LTS to xenial LTS?
[15:34] <nacc> topi`: yes
[15:34] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: Nope, the share was created on the remote just prior to mounting locally, both servers have not lost power or connectivity
[15:34] <slidinghorn> Buanka: This is an aside to the issue we're dealing with, but I would suggest fully uninstalling grive-tools and instead using gnome-control-center and gnome-online-accounts for your Google Drive account (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/use-google-drive-ubuntu-16-04-linux-desktops)
[15:35] <topi`> nacc: is there a CLI tool for doing these upgrades?
[15:35] <slidinghorn> Buanka: was there anything in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory?
[15:35] <nacc> topi`: yes, do-release-upgrade
[15:35] <topi`> ok, thanks
[15:35] <nacc> topi`: yw
[15:36] <Buanka> slidinghorn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gT9shJbSDS/
[15:36] <TheGrumpyScot> pragmaticenigma: used `sudo umount -lf ~alan/mp` .. seems to have done the trick; guess it just needed a bit of a hint in the right direction. Thanks for the help
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> TheGrumpyScot, glad I could do what I could. I'll look up that command for my references. thank you
[15:41] <bray90820_> How is the support for appls magic mouse
[15:43] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, As long as the device adheres to industry standards, it will behave like a mouse. Some features of the mouse may require additional configuration to enable. In short, it should just work
[15:43] <bray90820_> I know the mouse will work but how is the multi touch support
[15:44] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, did you read my entire message?
[15:44] <tgm4883> This is the wrong forum to solicit hardware recommendations
[15:45] <bray90820_> Yes I did you said may require I was wondering how it was out of the box
[15:46] <krytarik> That's what the Live images are for - to test things.
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, out of the box, the mouse will work like a mouse... additional features may require configuration to enable them. The key word is may... there is no way for us to know with certainty what the outcome will be
[15:47] <bray90820_> If someon owns one they can
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, that falls in the scope of hardware recommendations, which this is not the channel for that
[15:48] <bray90820_> What is the channel for that then
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, Support of the Ubuntu Operating system. You can take your question to /join #ubuntu-offtopic and you may find an answer there
[15:50] <bray90820_> Thanks
[15:50] <krytarik> bray90820_: More like ##hardware - but I slightly disagree with that notion, because it's also distro-dependent.
[15:51] <bray90820_> krytarik: Thanks for understanding the distro dependincy
[15:53] <pinemore> @search pain killer
[15:54] <leftyfb> pinemore: can we help you with something?
[15:55] <leftyfb> pinemore: https://www.google.com/maps/search/drug+store+Tonal%C3%A1/@20.6381497,-103.2903945,12z/data=!3m1!4b1
[15:56] <adalbert> chateau migraine?
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> bray90820_, A way to think of this channel is if you had the mouse and it wasn't work, we could help get it up and running. Without having the mouse, we can't troubleshoot and cannot predict if your system will have any issues. Sometimes a device will work out of the box right away for one person, and not work for another. There are too many potential outcomes which is why we stick to fixing after the fact.
[15:56] <krytarik> adalbert: LOL :D
[15:58] <BMO-noire> could someone please give me an example for updating and installing applications through parallel-ssh? the following is from the man page and works for echo, but I can't seem to adapt it for apt-get: parallel-ssh -i -h .pssh_hosts_files -A -l root echo hi
[16:22] <tyamur> Hi people
[16:23] <tyamur> Hwo is this?
[16:24] <slidinghorn> tyamur: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:24] <tyamur> yes
[16:26] <rfleming> How does one go about figuring out the size of a sector based on CHS?
[16:27] <EriC^^> rfleming: there's a formula for it online somewhere
[16:27] <rfleming> yeah, I'm looking... so CHS shows S is 63 (which seems typical)
[16:28] <rfleming> EriC^^: Found http://www.deathwombat.com/diskgeometry.html
[16:28] <rfleming> meh, won't take my number of cylinders :)
[16:30] <tyamur> I,m instaled ubuntu liveusb with usbdisk.
[16:30] <tyamur> dmesg print load more text. print usb disconnect. after squs.fs read error.
[16:30] <EriC^^> tyamur: sounds like the usb is messed up
[16:31] <rfleming> bytes per sector is typically 512 yes?
[16:31] <tyamur> I,m engleesh bad lern((
[16:32] <tyamur> why
[16:34] <EriC^^> rfleming: yeah or 4096
[16:35] <slidinghorn> tyamur: if English is difficult for you, there are support channels for several different languages.  What is your native language?
[16:37] <tyamur> russian. but ubuntu-ru registration no.
[16:37] <Anthaas> What is the filesystem order again? UGO?
[16:37] <Anthaas> permission order*
[16:38] <akik> !permissions | Anthaas
[16:38] <nacc> Anthaas: but yes, that is the order emitted by ls
[16:39] <Anthaas> Thought so - thanks.
[16:39] <nacc> Anthaas: yw
[16:39] <Anthaas> Im having an issue - its not permission related (any more)
[16:39] <Anthaas> I am mounting Google Drive on boot, and then running feh on said folder.
[16:40] <Anthaas> I have added the command to mount the folder to the bottom of my .profile, and the feh command beneath that
[16:40] <Anthaas> Doesn't seem to run feh though, but the folder _is_ mounted.
[16:41] <akik> Anthaas: .profile is read when you login
[16:42] <Anthaas> Which is what I want, I think?
[16:42] <Anthaas> I want it to boot into this feh command.
[16:42] <Anthaas> Is it possible that it is too soon?
[16:42] <ducasse> Anthaas: what does the feh command do?
[16:42] <Anthaas> ducasse: Its an image viewing tool.
[16:43] <Anthaas> It loads a folder of images into a slideshow.
[16:43] <ducasse> i know, but then it requires access to your x session
[16:44] <Anthaas> Correct.
[16:44] <Anthaas> I've just read an error I missed - it would appear that x session isnt running by the time the command is run
[16:45] <ducasse> then you should run it from ~/.xsessionrc, not .profile
[16:45] <Anthaas> ahhhh
[16:47] <Anthaas> ducasse: Is that a file I can just create, and start adding commands to, or is there some mandatory predefined structure to it?
[16:48] <ducasse> Anthaas: just create it
[16:49] <Anthaas> ducasse: Ok, I did that, moved the commands in there, and they weren't run.
[16:49] <Anthaas> Neither of them.
[16:49] <Anthaas> (after rebooting)
[16:51] <ducasse> it definitely should work, which release is this?
[16:52] <EriC^^> Anthaas: why dont you use startup apps?
[17:17] <DuncanT> Can anybody point me at an example source package which is just packaging an upstream binary build please? I'm trying to create a PPA of an upstream that only releases binaries and I'm struggling
[17:17] <kostkon> DuncanT, why not go the snap way?
[17:18] <DuncanT> kostkon: Trying to fit into an existing workflow that uses debs
[17:18] <kostkon> DuncanT, ok
[17:18] <DuncanT> kostkon: I'll consider releasing snaps as well, but I'd like to get debs first, it should be the path of least resistance
[17:19] <kostkon> !packaging
[17:20] <atlas1> ls
[17:21] <DuncanT> kostkon: I've read that, at length. I'm struggling construct a rules file that just sucks the binary out of a tarball
[17:34] <neuthral> sorry to post this here but it's important, dont watch if you have a weak stomach. otherwise share so something can be done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy0bF-PFpFI
[17:34] <neuthral> #PureEvil
[17:35] <pragmaticenigma> neuthral, This is a support channel for Ubuntu only. Do not post non-support related materials
[17:35] <oerheks> not welcome here, neuthral
[17:36] <Fjorgynn> :(
[17:36] <oerheks> neuthral, please leave
[17:36] <Fjorgynn> :S
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> so now we need flood ?
[17:38] <Sven_vB> I'd like to try whether investing more CPU will reduce latency on my bluetooth audio link. would I need to renice vlc, pulseaudio, some bluetooth process, or a combination thereof?
[17:38] <Sven_vB> (it's accumulated latency resulting from short gaps)
[17:39] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, the words spoken no longer sync with the video in the media file?
[17:39] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, exactly.
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, I'm not sure if renicing a process would fix that... as it could be the radio chip that introduces that latency
[17:40] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, it resets when I switch the sound sink mode to "off" and then "a2dp" (or similar) again, but every few minutes there's a gap
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, do you have any other BT devices paired with the computer?
[17:40] <Sven_vB> nope
[17:41] <Sven_vB> oh I do, but they're not connected
[17:42] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, maybe try removing those device pairings? If the gap occurs at a regular interval, I'd suspect that the BT controller is searching for the other devices and it has mode switch the radio from a2dp and back to do the search
[17:44] <MWM> I just did a fresh install of Budgie 17.10 and I cant seem to start a web browser except with "sudo firefox"
[17:44] <Sven_vB> I'll have to read up on how that scanning and handshake works. I'm still optimistic about the priority though, since I can provoke audio gaps by running apt.
[17:44] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, did you run a command simialr to "sudo chmod root" recently?
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, I did find this... haven't read all the way through but might be promising
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, https://askubuntu.com/a/171165
[17:45] <MWM> I havent done anything like that.  Fresh install of the whole OS and a fresh install of Firefox.  Built in browser was acting up also... thats why I installed firefox
[17:45] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, thanks!
[17:46] <MWM> I would just try to dig around an chown the firefox directory but I am not sure if that would mess something else up
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, Where did you get your Ubuntu disk image for installation? Was it from the official Ubuntu site ubuntu.com?
[17:47] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, what does "whereis firefox" report?
[17:47] <MWM> https://ubuntubudgie.org/downloads  <--not exactly ubuntu.com but still the official source I believe
[17:47] <oerheks> MWM, just remove the .mozilla folder, that would reset
[17:49] <MWM> whereis firefox returns "/usr/bin/firefox /usr/lib/firefox /etc/firefox" and another entry for the manpage
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, try going to your home folder and moving the folder ".mozilla" to ".mozilla.backup" and see if firefox runs
[17:50] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, "mv .mozilla .mozilla.backup"
[17:50] <MWM> same issue after mv .mozilla
[17:51] <MWM> Let me be more clear.  When I run firefox from the GUI it *does* open but with only a black screen
[17:51] <MWM> when I use "sude firefox" the browser works normally
[17:52] <MWM> * err sudo ...not sude :D
[17:52] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, … however I couldn't find a solution there. the script that switches the audio mode would just automate the clicking, but I'd still have to pause every few minutes. that's especially bad because the switch to off has the same delay as audio playback, and then my headphones need about 2 seconds to switch from off to a2dp again.
[17:53] <brainwash> MWM: what output does firefox give you when started from a terminal window?
[17:54] <Sven_vB> might there be a way to configure bluetooth audio to never accumulate delays, but instead just discard fragments that couldn't be transmitted quickly enough?
[17:55] <MWM> there is no output.  The web broswer just opens
[17:56] <Sven_vB> MWM, have you tried running firefox with a different $HOME directory, and thus a new clean profile?
[17:57] <MWM> do you mean from a differen user?  The best I can do there is logout and log back in.  I am the only user on this rig
[17:59] <crimson_king> MWM, about:profiles
[18:00] <pragmaticenigma> MWM, you can create a new user to test with
[18:01] <MWM> Well gents, I restarted the machine to see if that would make a difference and now my RDP client is being an ass.  I will have to check back with you later.
[18:01] <MWM> Atleast I can fix the network issue, if not as quick as I would like.  Thanks for the help :D
[18:02] <Sven_vB> in htop there are lots of vlc processes that ps can't see? e.g. there's 24372 in the PID column but "ps --no-header u 24372" gives no output and exit status 1
[18:03] <Sven_vB> are those really PIDs? are they processes?
[18:04] <davegarath> Hi, I'm trying to user get_or_create(**mydict) where mydict is populated with some fields. If I run this I have got duplicated lines if a filed ( that is not contained into mydic ) are already populated
[18:04] <pragmaticenigma> davegarath, is this for Python?
[18:04] <davegarath> oh damn sorry
[18:05] <Buanka> slidinghorn: u still around? i got grive out of the system like u sugested
[18:05] <davegarath> I thinking to be on #jango
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> davegarath, not quite, close though... (side bar, I think you have a pass by reference issue)
[18:12] <julio> Boa tarde a todos
[18:13] <leftyfb> !br | julio
[18:20] <realies> trying to install oracle-java8 but... https://dpaste.de/hwm5/raw
[18:21] <leftyfb> realies: that would mean it's not available anymore
[18:22] <realies> leftyfb, oh boi :)
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> !java | realies
[18:22] <leftyfb> realies: you're trying to install using oracle-java8-installer ?
[18:22] <realies> wonder why loading the url in the browser downloads it then
[18:22] <realies> yes
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> realies, the first URL that is used no longer works and redirects... those redirects land at a page informing a person that you have a liscense to download from that location
[18:25] <realies> you are wrong
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> realies: volunteers trying to help you here
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> realies, I'm trying to help you and I just attempted to use the url http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u161-b12/2f38c3b165be4555a1fa6e98c45e0808/jdk-8u161-linux-x64.tar.gz that was listed first. It landed me here http://download.oracle.com/errors/download-fail-1505220.html
[18:28] <realies> sure, although upon my first attempt, copying that url to the browser would start the download
[18:28] <realies> http://download.oracle.com/otn-pub/java/jdk/8u161-b12/2f38c3b165be4555a1fa6e98c45e0808/jdk-8u161-linux-x64.tar.gz?AuthParam=1523988970_e1fa655fc06b14a6ef30f282fa905151
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> realies: why dont you download java8 from the ubuntu repos exactly>?
[18:28] <realies> it does not respond assuming because it has been used already
[18:28] <realies> lotuspsychje, because oracle java is not as the java from the repo
[18:29] <scenick_> Hello All, I wonder whethere anyone succeeded installing Ubuntu on Acer Aspire 14. I did. It was pain. I used refind. And possibly the target solution was placing shims and certs to Microsoft folder on mmcblk0p1 partition under EFI/Microsoft folder. Just to let You know. Regards
[18:30] <Vic2> In which package is dig for 16.04?
[18:30] <Wulf> scenick_: I've got different acer (travelmate something). It was pretty easy. With a recent kernel.
[18:30] <Wulf> Vic2: dnsutils
[18:31] <Vic2> ty Wulf
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> realies: contact the maintainer of the oracle repo perhaps?
[18:31] <Sven_vB> maybe a screenshot helps: what are those numbers in the PID column? if they're PIDs, why can't ps see them? https://abload.de/img/htop-vlc-pids-mvu13.jpeg
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> Sven_vB, not sure why all those processes are started with VLC... seems like something might be wrong with VLC
[18:34] <Sven_vB> pragmaticenigma, so if those are processes, why can't I see them in ps?
[18:34] <adalbert> Sven_vB: because they are child processes.
[18:35] <nacc> Sven_vB: what parameters are you passing to ps?
[18:36] <Sven_vB> nacc, ps --no-headers u 28057 28069 28070 28072 28073 28090 28091 28108 28380 28388 28389 28390 28391 28392 28393
[18:36] <nacc> Sven_vB: try `ps -aux`
[18:36] <nacc> Sven_vB: err, 'aux'
[18:38] <Sven_vB> nacc, "ps aux | grep vlc" gives 3 lines: the main process, the grep and "sven     28061  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        ZN   20:21   0:00 [vlc-unixsock-cm] <defunct>"
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> realies, Oracle is employing a requirement that you accept their liscense agreement when downloading. The URL is auto generated after you accept. You have a short amount of time between getting that URL and downloading the file. Oracle intends for you to accept and download the JDK from their website using a web browser. We cannot provide any further help as we can only support packaged software from Ubuntu's
[18:39] <pragmaticenigma> software repos. For further help, you will need to reach out to the Java community
[18:39] <Sven_vB> adalbert, is there a flag to show the subprocesses as well?
[18:39] <nacc> Sven_vB: try `ps -eLf`
[18:39] <nacc> Sven_vB: that shows threads
[18:40] <Sven_vB> nacc, again 3 lines: main vlc, grep and "1 Z sven     28061 28057  0  90  10 -     0 exit       0   0 20:21 ?        00:00:00 [vlc-unixsock-cm] <defunct>
[18:40] <Sven_vB> "
[18:43] <Sven_vB> sorry I misread the letter case
[18:43] <Scenick>  Hello, I would like to ask question. I'm unsure where should be the better place than here. I bought Acer Aspire ES 14. Default installation were Windows. I decided to put Linux on that machine. However default install of Linux Ubuntu 18.04 failed. Wrote: cannot find bootable device. So I experimented a bit and found that refind & possibly putting shmi & certs in first partition of mmc brought it to booting. Is that possible?
[18:44] <Sven_vB> nacc, the numbers from htop now show up in the LWP column.
[18:44] <EriC^^> Scenick: is it a hybrid tablet kind of laptop?
[18:45] <Sven_vB> nacc, so are they lightweight processes?
[18:45] <leftyfb> Scenick: didn't you just say you solved it and posted the solution?
[18:45] <leftyfb> 20 minutes ago
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> !bionic | Scenick
[18:46] <leftyfb> Scenick: also, just disable secureboot/EFI
[18:46] <Scenick> It's kind of new notebook. EFI with default Secure Boot on. I turned SB off. ... I'm asking because I'm not sure about what solved the problem. It just started to boot eventually.
[18:46] <akik> Scenick: for some acer laptops you need to add grubx64.efi or shimx64.efi as a allowed boot file in uefi
[18:47] <Scenick> Default it didn't boot when placed in the default ubuntu installation folder.
[18:47] <Scenick> I think EFI/linux or EFI/ubuntu didn't work. Possibly it had to be placed in EFI/Microsoft
[18:47] <Scenick> Would be anyone interested in examining the partition?
[18:48] <akik> Scenick: each distro creates its own directory, like EFI\ubuntu, EFI\fedora, EFI\opensuse
[18:48] <Sven_vB> nacc, seems like they are. thanks!
[18:48] <EriC^^> Scenick: some pc's are like that, they're hardwired to boot only microsoft efi files in those paths
[18:49] <EriC^^> Scenick: acer usually lets you 'trust' the efi file if you set an admin password for the bios you get the option to appear
[18:49] <boblamont> Any opinions on a good minimal web server (Lubuntu 17.10)? The (only) two things I want it to do are make a directory of audio files accessible via the web ( for playback on a web page hosted elsewhere) and to run a php page that does the simple task of taking a form input and writing it to a text file. Apache seems like overkill for this. I came across Cherokee, is that any good? I'd like to add as little overhead as possible in terms of
[18:49] <Scenick> Eric> Good to know. Thanks.
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> boblamont, please take your question to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is for support questions only
[18:50] <leftyfb> boblamont: to start with, run ubuntu server. Not Lubuntu
[18:50] <oerheks> pragmaticenigma, send him to #ubuntu-server
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks, they're not asking a support question, they are looking for opinion
[19:00] <adalbert> just a question about grep, you know grep -v "parameter" will invert the grep result, but how can I add more parameters in a single grep? For now I'm doing : cat file1 | grep -v "data" | grep -v "test"
[19:00] <EriC^^> adalbert: grep -vE "data|test"
[19:00] <akik> adalbert: grep -v -e "data1" -e "data2"
[19:00] <adalbert> ah thnx! i was looking for that.
[19:00] <leftyfb> or egrep
[19:00] <adalbert> (Y)
[19:04] <nacc> Sven_vB: right they are threads
[19:19] <omarv> Hi all, I have ubuntu 18 installed, by now have a problem starting up,, could someone help me ? thns  a lot
[19:19] <kostkon> !ubuntu+1 | omarv
[19:20] <omarv> ok thanks
[19:22] <tsglove> Can I use LUKS to encrypt a single directory?  Everything I am reading has info on how to encrypt and entire partition.
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove, that is because LUKS is to encrypt on the partition level, not directory
[19:22] <piterke> I'm looking for a friend  diogenes
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove, the tool more appropriate for your needs is encryptfs
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> tsglove, for more information and recommendations see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[19:23] <tsglove> pragmaticenigma, nice! On my way to check that out.
[19:23] <pragmaticenigma> your welcome tsglove
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> piterke, this is a support channel. please limit your questions to Ubuntu support related topics. For other topics and questions please see /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <realies> oracle-java8-installer tries to install 8u161, but in oracle's website there's only 8u171 and 8u172 for download
[19:26] <realies> halp
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> realies, as you were told earlier, we do not support software not obtained through Ubuntu software repositories
[19:27] <pragmaticenigma> realies, you will have to find a java community for help
[19:27] <mzuverink> realies, rtfm at oracle, its not our kungfu here
[19:28] <pragmaticenigma> !language | mzuverink
[19:28] <realies> i guess i need to find nilarimogard
[19:29] <akik> realies: the installer in past was just a tar/zip that you unpack somewhere and point JAVA_HOME to it on use
[19:30] <realies> akik, im getting the same results via the installer and by manually populating the repo location
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> akik, we cannot support 3rd party installers... please stick to room guidelines.
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> realies, as you were told earlier, we do not support software not obtained through Ubuntu software repositories
[19:30] <akik> sure
[19:31] <pragmaticenigma> realies, you will have to find a java community for help
[19:32] <realies> don't think so pragmaticenigma
[19:32] <realies> it's a ubuntu-specific question
[19:32] <realies> and here's where the ubuntu community is
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> realies, where did you download Java SDK from?
[19:32] <realies> i haven't
[19:33] <pragmaticenigma> realies, you were told before... if you aren't going to use the software available in the Official Ubuntu software repository it is not supported by this channel
[19:33] <omarv> nobody in #ubuntu+1 answer ...
[19:33] <Butterfly_> omarv : be patient
[19:34] <realies> pragmaticenigma, this channel is an official ubuntu support channel with ubuntu userbase, this is a ubuntu-specific question
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> realies, that is not correct
[19:35] <realies> which part?
[19:36] <piterke> witam wszystkich szukam kolegi diogenesa
[19:36] <pragmaticenigma> realies, I'm done repeating myself... If you are not going to download Java through the APT, we cannot support it
[19:37] <realies> cool, the question remains for ubuntu users that might have had experience with this use-case
[19:37] <Butterfly_> !off-topic realies
[19:37] <realies> oh
[19:37] <tsglove> I'm reading this link, yet I am unsure why the author would say to add a new partition /dev/sda6: "1. Boot a live CD and, using any tool, using any tool create a new partition, lets call it /dev/sda6 , next to and to the left of (after) your crypt. "
[19:38] <tsglove> link --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[19:38] <spartan2276> How can I get my graphics tablet to work?
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> !details | spartan2276
[19:38] <realies> lols
[19:38] <zteam> realies, there is a thirdparty ppa (personal repository) over here, try it at your own risk, we do not offer any support for it https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[19:38] <realies> zteam, that's what i'm trying,but it seems i have to find the maintainer for that as it seems they haven't updated it since the last jdk update
[19:39] <spartan2276> here is the output of xinput list https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/7cT5hsNjH6/
[19:40] <spartan2276> here is my 52-tavlet.conf file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8XPBf7zYtV/
[19:40] <realies> zteam, too bad i can't track them :)
[19:40] <spartan2276> *52-tablet.conf file https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8XPBf7zYtV/
[19:40] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | spartan2276
[19:41] <spartan2276> @pragmaticenigma but they're different files and outputs
[19:41] <realies> !offtopic pragmaticenigma
[19:41] <realies> :D:D
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> !coc | realies
[19:42] <realies> do you have a video tutorial?
[19:42] <pragmaticenigma> spartan2276, with the conversation that is going on here it's too difficult for someone to follow the single line posts of your links. Also, if anyone is going to be able to help, they need it one line to make it easier to find later
[19:43] <realies> !nazi pragmaticenigma
[19:44] <spartan2276> I tried to follow this (http://digimend.github.io/support/howto/trbl/locating_failure/) guide to get the tablet to work but no dice :(
[19:44] <zteam> realies, try to download it directly from oracle then: https://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[19:45] <realies> zteam, sure, i was looking to provision a dockerfile though
[19:46] <zteam> realies, I have no experience at all with docker, so cannot really help you with that
[19:46] <realies> looking to automate the process basically
[19:49] <zteam> realies, you could download the package with wget and just execute the installer from your script I guess. It might also be possible to convert the .RPM-file they provide with alien and try to install that manually
[19:49] <zteam> with dpkg -i
[19:50] <realies> zteam, gotta accept the agreement and forward the cookie for automatic dl
[19:50] <realies> what the oracle-java8-installer is doing i believe
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | zteam , realies
[19:51] <realies> dude, this is on topic with the ubuntu distribution
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> It is not on topic, you are discussing downloading java from a non-ubuntu affiliated site... the conversation needs to take place elsewhere
[19:52] <dave_mwi> hello, I have an older AMD chip - is there still some install work I can do for better graphics? fglrx or something similiar? I've tried researching, but not having any luck really.
[19:52] <dave_mwi> AMD gpu that is
[19:53] <realies> pragmaticenigma, the conduct of code scrolls you send me do not state that those types of discussions are not allowed
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> dave_mwi, fglrx was discontinued in favor of AMD's contribution of drivers directly into the kernel
[19:53] <tsglove> when is ubuntu 18 released?
[19:54] <realies> so would you please being off-topic?
[19:54] <realies> *stop being
[19:54] <pragmaticenigma> realies, it does talk about being pleasent and positive contributor to the channel. calling someone a name is not following that
[19:54] <realies> who has been called a name?
[19:54] <dave_mwi> pragmaticenigma: so then the base install should have me covered?
[19:55] <adalbert> tsglove: i believe 27th of april.
[19:55] <tsglove> adalbert, nice!!
[19:55] <tsglove> thanks
[19:55] <pragmaticenigma> dave_mwi, it should to my knowledge
[19:55] <pragmaticenigma> dave_mwi, some features will not be available
[19:56] <zteam> realies, you could try to convert the RPM-file, with dpkg -i or you can possibly copy the files from a system where you already installed it. please try to ask your question in #java for further assistance
[19:57] <realies> zteam, would the executables from the rpm be identical to the deb?
[19:57] <realies> *to a deb
[19:57] <dave_mwi> pragmaticenigma, thank you
[20:01] <zteam> realies, alien can try to convert it to a .deb, it's not guarenteed to work at all, that depends on if the packages has the same name, depependeices amd so on
[20:02] <realies> i see
[20:09] <IntelCore> error encountered processing oracle-java8-installer dpkg code(1) ???
[20:10] <IntelCore> openjdk version "1.8.0_162"
[20:10] <stepanka_> hi
[20:10] <IntelCore>  is this latest java 8?
[20:11] <IntelCore> hi stepanka
[20:12] <IntelCore> Does this mean, I gotta get java for ubuntu, not from Oracle?
[20:12] <tomreyn> IntelCore: unless you have very very spacial needs, you should always yuse the openjdk provided by ubuntu
[20:13] <IntelCore> hmm.. what about 9, or 10?
[20:13] <stepanka_> i have strange problem. It seems that i once saved state before sleep/switch off and the state loads with every session restart. Does anyone know how to purge that saved state? I checked lunch settings and niether terminal nor firefox is there..
[20:13] <stepanka_> launch*
[20:13] <tomreyn> IntelCore: what is your goal, what does not work, if anything
[20:13] <stepanka_> there is no lunch setting.
[20:14] <Sircle> How to make wildfly re run if it gets crashed (this is happening to me a lot I dont know why). Using Ubuntu
[20:14] <IntelCore>  want to have latest Oracle java is all..
[20:15] <nacc> IntelCore: java 9 and 10 are in the later releases
[20:16] <tomreyn> !latest | IntelCore
[20:17] <IntelCore> yeah? I dunno what about ppa is.
[20:17] <cram> hello i do  do-release-upgrade -d
[20:17] <tomreyn> !ppa | IntelCore
[20:17] <cram> but i have black screen now. Why?
[20:18] <Draconiator> I'm having a weird problem too, I have Xubuntu installed on my netbook, and sometimes when I start it up, it's like once in a while my wireless doesn't initialize or something because I get no signal, and Xub reports there are no access points around.  when that happens I have to reboot until it does NOT do this.
[20:18] <cram> i tried to upgrade to bionic beaver
[20:18] <IntelCore> yes, so the error came and told me that my Ubunutu was not the official one.
[20:18] <nacc> cram: what did you upgrade from?
[20:19] <cram> xubuntu 17.10 to 18.04
[20:19] <nacc> cram: do you use nvidia?
[20:19] <IntelCore> i have a few more days...
[20:20] <cram> yes i have nvidia pilot
[20:20] <Sven_vB> what's a good program to talk to a TCP server like netcat, but have the bottom line reserved for my input, not messing with and not being messed up by lines received? basically like irssi
[20:20] <nacc> cram: that's probably why, i think there is ongoing stuff with nvidia right now
[20:20] <nacc> cram: #ubuntu+1 for support
[20:21] <cram> ok what can i do ?
[20:21] <cram> thanks for the adress
[20:21] <kostkon> Draconiator, in the interim you might want to try disabling your wifi from the switch and enabling it again and see if that makes any difference
[20:22] <new0> tomreyn, hey. btw my other problems were solved.
[20:22] <new0> hi kostkon, after the reboot my ubuntu start to work good
[20:22] <new0> :O)
[20:22] <new0> * :)
[20:23] <Draconiator> Hmmm, well that worked.
[20:23] <kostkon> Draconiator, instead of having to reboot, how many times does it usually take
[20:23] <kostkon> new0, after that big update. nice.
[20:24] <Draconiator> one.  But I never tried the switch before because the light doesn't do anything when it happens.
[20:24] <IntelCore> here at the library. sometimes i have to get-off their wi-fi to even have browser work .
[20:24] <kostkon> Draconiator, right. well it's a temporary solution of sorts
[20:25] <IntelCore> so, i go.. click networking, and or wi-fi, and that re-sets all of it
[20:27] <Sven_vB> even better: is there a program that helps me chat with any command's stdio and have the bottom line for my input? then I could rlwrap $stdio_chat netcat $opts
[20:27] <tomreyn> new0: thats good news, thanks for the feedback.
[20:28] <Sven_vB> well the readline would probably have to be baked into that chat program instead of using rlwrap
[20:29] <new0> kostkon, yes. samba were making a lot of problems for me. finally i can access it from Win7 + now i have new problem to solved. accessing with Auth and also access only and not change. and i installed git-ftp which is nice tool to have if i don't have ssh access to remote file server to use git hook
[20:29] <Draconiator> Just glad I get to use my netbook again, thing was getting pretty old and it had WinXP on it as well as a 160GB hard drive; thing was so bloated...so I eventually bought an 8GB SSD and put Xubuntu on it.  So there ya go, no more bloat!!!
[20:30] <tomreyn> 8 GB SSD? doh, this must be old.
[20:31] <Draconiator> yep, circa 2007 I think
[20:31] <kostkon> new0, ask your new question away
[20:32] <kostkon> Draconiator, pretty big downsize. i went from 250hdd to 120ssd on my netbook
[20:32] <Draconiator> but it works like I want it to so I'm not complaining  hell I don't game on here heh.
[20:33] <tomreyn> Draconiator: read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/443761/how-is-trim-enabled
[20:33] <new0> tomreyn, hey, nice to see you. btw can i finally remove those comments deb from source.list?
[20:34] <tomreyn> new0: if your system works fine now, sure.
[20:34] <tomreyn> i mean if apt runs without reporting warnings or errors
[20:34] <new0> tomreyn, ok. what is the cmd to find the path of source.list (keep forgetting it)
[20:34] <new0> tomreyn, at the moment i see no warning/errors
[20:34] <tomreyn> new0: the main sources.list file is at /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:35] <new0> tomreyn, right. but let's just say i want to look for filename. what would be the command/
[20:35] <new0> ?
[20:35] <tomreyn> new0: when you add other (non standard) repositories you should place a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ though
[20:36] <tomreyn> "ls /etc/apt" lists the contents of this directory
[20:36] <tomreyn> "find /etc -iname 'sources.list'" would find the file
[20:36] <new0> tomreyn, i mean like locate source.list or find source.list etc..
[20:36] <new0> tomreyn, tnx
[20:36] <Draconiator> for some reason...i think "cronjob" sounds like something I don't wanna say lol
[20:37] <Sven_vB> nevermind, trusty's rlwrap has almost that feature by default
[20:37] <tomreyn> new0: or just "locate sources.list" ;)
[20:38] <tomreyn> new0: the locate command doesn't actually run a live searhc on the file system (and is thus much faster) but regularly updates a database of what's on your file system.
[20:38] <new0> tomreyn, hoooo source(s).list and i was looking for source.list
[20:38] <tomreyn> new0: so you get a quick lookup (very convenient) but sometimes outdated info.
[20:39] <new0> tomreyn, ok. and find command does it slower?
[20:39] <tomreyn> new0: yes, but live
[20:39] <tomreyn> i'll have some food now and do some couch potatoing. ttyl.
[20:40] <new0> tomreyn, np boun appitite
[20:41] <nbusrone> Does anyone can guide how to delete ubuntu OS without interfere with another ubuntu OS such as 12.04 remove but 14.04 is above.Grub , swap partition are share together.
[20:42] <oerheks> nbusrone, use a live iso, but determin first which partitions are used by 14.04
[20:42] <oerheks> boot 12.04 and see which belong to that, and the rest would be 14.04, i guess
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> nbusrone, when you install a new OS to the partition being decommishind, if it is Linux, it will auto find the partitions and update grub automatically
[20:44] <IntelCore> is this the correct room for beaver?  er, (sniff) uhm.. 18.04?
[20:44] <nacc> IntelCore: #ubuntu+1
[20:44] <kostkon> !ubuntu+1 | IntelCore
[20:45] <mrleaW> Hi geeks, any idea how to install CGI:IRC on Ubuntu 16.04. LTS ?
[20:45] <IntelCore> ty
[20:46] <oerheks> it is not in our repos, or i do not find it, see http://cgiirc.org/docs/install.php
[20:47] <oerheks> mrleaW ^^
[20:47] <mrleaW> yes
[20:47] <mrleaW> I see that link , from there i have dowloaded the website cgi script :)
[20:47] <nbusrone> oerheks , pragmaticenigma : what I amd trying to achieve is , deleting 12.04 , retain 14.04 installing upcoming 16.04 or 18.04 into 12.04 free space partition .The first step , on live CD , just format the partition using Gparted then installed ? as simple as it ? Do I need to set a swap ? I saw some article where 16.04 doesn't need swap .
[20:48] <pragmaticenigma> nbusrone, 16.04 can still use a designated swap partition if one is defined.
[20:48] <mrleaW> All i need is how to load this cgi script after editing config files and moving them to /var/www/html path (i have installed apache2)
[20:49] <kostkon> nbusrone, you might have read that 17.10 uses a swap file instead of a partition, as does 18.04
[20:49] <pragmaticenigma> nbusrone, you can use the partition tool in the installer to delete the existin 12.04 partition and install to that partition. when it goes to detect boot loaders, it will see one is already installed and trigger the update for 14.04 and which ever version you choose to install. and will remove the older non-existant 12.04
[20:49] <nbusrone> pragmaticenigma : If I doesn't wanted to assgin a swap ? which memory will it use ?
[20:50] <pragmaticenigma> nbusrone, 16.04 still uses swap... it just uses a swap file instead of a partition... if you already have a partition, I would continue to use that
[20:50] <kostkon> nbusrone, your ram? how much do you have
[20:51] <pragmaticenigma> kostkon, that's not quite correct. Ubuntu still uses swap, it just uses a swap file instead of a swap partition
[20:51] <nbusrone> pragmaticenigma : Thank I'll try out tomorrow , but the partition is share with 14.04 . I can't create more partition since using MBR rather than GPT.
[20:51] <oerheks> pragmaticenigma, wrong, 16.04 uses a swap partition
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks, it can use both
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> but not at the same time
[20:52] <kostkon> pragmaticenigma, yeah i'm just answering his hypothetical question
[20:52] <nbusrone> kostkon : 8GB , I plan to upgrade but on hold since the ram price hike like double the price.Not knowing when i'll go down.
[20:52] <oerheks> ...
[20:53] <oerheks> official: 17.04 .. http://blog.surgut.co.uk/2016/12/swapfiles-by-default-in-ubuntu.html
[20:54] <oerheks> such new items will not be introduced with an LTS.
[20:56] <pragmaticenigma> oerheks, I was going based on this documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[21:01] <new0> hey, when i am accessing a share folder on Ubuntu from win7 why it's allow me to create new folder/files? also why it give me free access without prompting me for user&pass?
[21:04] <adalbert> new0: are the ubuntu and win7 on the same system ? Is it multi boot with shared folder or ... ?
[21:04] <new0> adalbert, 2 machines
[21:04] <adalbert> new0: ok.
[21:04] <new0> adalbert, same workgroup
[21:05] <adalbert> new0: same user account too ?
[21:05] <mrleaW> Any suggestion about how to install CGI:IRC on my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS ? Thanks ! :)
[21:06] <new0> adalbert, funny thing is: when i am where the share folder is defined by nano /etc/samba/smb.conf it's accessable but not changeble which is good. but when i set it via samba server configuration GUI it's also allow me to create/delete files/folder from the share folder of ubuntu on win7 machine
[21:06] <new0> adalbert, not same user account
[21:07] <new0> adalbert, not at all
[21:07] <adalbert> new0: so you got samba running on the ubuntu ? Maybe you're sharing a public folder with all permissions for anynomous ? Check samba conf ?
[21:07] <new0> adalbert, what should i check?
[21:08] <adalbert> smb.conf
[21:08] <adalbert> samba's configuration file, I've no idea where that is tho :)
[21:08] <new0> adalbert, samba running on ubuntu = yes; sharing music folder not with all permission but we should probably check it out; i will check conf, but what do i looking for?
[21:09] <new0> adalbert, mmmm btw if i have smb.conf in home dir should it matter? is it override /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[21:10] <adalbert> new0: in the samba configuration there are directives for the path's you are sharing through samba, you should check those directives.
[21:10] <adalbert> new0: i don't think smb.conf in home dir will work.
[21:10] <GuiToris> hello, how can I change power management settings in command line?
[21:12] <new0> adalbert, smb.conf in home dir will not work? GREATE! solve one problem. but the share folder of Music in home dir i did share it via GUI of Samba Server Configuration and not via directive on /etc/samba/smb.conf ! should it matter?
[21:12] <adalbert> new0: which GUI?
[21:12] <new0> Samba Server Configuration adalbert
[21:13] <adalbert> new0: i'll have a look
[21:13] <new0> adalbert, ok
[21:13] <adalbert> new0: you got a link for that ?
[21:14] <IntelCore> is there a room for 16.04 server?
[21:15] <kostkon> IntelCore, just #ubuntu-server
[21:15] <IntelCore> ty
[21:15] <new0> adalbert, i can try to look for a link
[21:17] <new0> tomreyn, kostkon, wow, for some reason my system is really fast now considering my low hardware. perhaps it's because it's running on memory at this time and not swap file
[21:17] <new0> adalbert, something like that? https://www.google.co.il/search?q=samba+server+configuration+tool+1.2.63&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi67ZjtncLaAhXEZ1AKHU-ODZ8Q_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=650&dpr=1
[21:17] <kostkon> new0, not quite sure about that but good to hear :)
[21:18] <new0> kostkon, meaning it was very slow last time! and i am not sure if it's because my system were running for month without power off
[21:18] <adalbert> new0: in case you want to drop the GUI, here's a usefull video for configuration of samba.
[21:18] <adalbert> https://www.google.be/search?q=samba+server+configuration&oq=samba+server+configuration&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3707j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=1
[21:19] <kostkon> new0, yep could be
[21:20] <new0> adalbert, mmm so perhaps because i mix setting of folder sharing via GUI and directive.. the GUI does not do it best?
[21:20] <adalbert> new0: here's a link with other GUI's you can try ... https://www.samba.org/samba/GUI/
[21:20] <new0> adalbert, the Music folder does the sharing setting via gui while all other via directive. but i still don't get user and pass prompt
[21:21] <adalbert> new0: even after a reboot of the windows system ? fresh login ? no password ?
[21:22] <oerheks> use one authentication system, not 2
[21:22] <oerheks> or settings
[21:23] <oerheks> !info swat
[21:23] <oerheks> :-(
[21:23] <new0> adalbert, mmm no. not after reboot. but if i play with sharing setting on ubuntu i can feel it via win7. and before i did update and dist-upgrade on ubuntu (yesterday) it did prompt me with user and pass. but just not getting accessed to it. and now i am getting accessed, but just not getting prompt :)
[21:23] <new0> wieeeerd
[21:24] <adalbert> new0: windows keeps samba login's in the cache till a reboot or a certain amount of idle time, no idea how long tho.
[21:24] <new0> adalbert, mmmmmm i guess my Q will be. what should/prefer/best practice... to use for sharing with ubuntu?
[21:25] <new0> adalbert, okkk would u know how may i clear those caching?
[21:25] <adalbert> new0: either sftp ssh or samba.
[21:25] <new0> adalbert, mmm another thought maybe this time i will google it?!
[21:25] <adalbert> new0: I have no idea about cleaing the cache
[21:26] <new0> adalbert, another method i meant.. not sftp ssh.. but another method for samba. like GUI or just directive? and if yes to GUI what tool is good/best? likable?
[21:26] <adalbert> new0: a restart of the samba server on the ubuntu machine "might" force the windows connections to reset but i'm not sure about that, have to test it
[21:27] <new0> adalbert, about it.. will google it. but about how to use sharing setting with samba i hope to learn here. or google it to. however you will guide me ;)
[21:27] <adalbert> new0: another method ? I'm not aware other than editing the smb.conf file either by hand or GUI ?
[21:28] <new0> adalbert, yes. is GUI interapting with directive? and vice versa?
[21:29] <new0> adalbert, or maybe i will just play around with directive before i am getting into GUI? tomreyn, kostkon, ... suggestions?
[21:30] <adalbert> new0: the GUI is just a frontend for editing the smb.conf file. How the GUI handles that process is different for every GUI i suppose, Some might overwrite the config file with a new one , others might update the GUI according to the config file.
[21:31] <adalbert> new0: what i'm saying is, that working with both might cause problems in configuration.
[21:34] <new0> adalbert, yes. this is what i see. conf and GUI not match exact
[21:34] <adalbert> new0: in any case, after making changes to the config file either by hand or GUI you can run the 'testparm' program to verify your samba configuration . (see man testparm)
[21:34] <new0> adalbert, yes. testparm
[21:36] <new0> adalbert, does it say something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQPB455FCb/
[21:37] <adalbert> looks good, except i would disable access to guests , but that's a personal choice.
[21:38] <new0> adalbert, whattt? this is why i don't get prompt to user and pass?
[21:39] <adalbert> new0: guests do not have write permissions tho.
[21:40] <new0> adalbert, fine.. but right now i don't have access at all
[21:41] <new0> adalbert, i could open files and see list of files/folders but not changing them. GREAT. but, not it's says Windows cannot access... maybe i need valid users or something?
[21:42] <adalbert> new0: yes you need to create users for samba.
[21:43] <adalbert> new0: example here: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/adding-a-user-to-a-samba-smb-share/
[21:43] <new0> adalbert, i do have one user for samba
[21:44] <adalbert> new0: have you used smbpasswd ?
[21:45] <new0> adalbert, mmm i have done it via GUI but when i did it by terminal it was saying already exists
[21:46] <adalbert> new0: oke, then your user account should be setup for samba
[21:47] <new0> adalbert, another weird thing is: when i go to my Network location on Win7 and open the share folders by network name (NetBios) it's open the share folder. but when i open it via \\IP it's say Windows cannot access
[21:47] <new0> adalbert,
[21:47] <new0> adalbert, but why it's behaving like this/.
[21:47] <new0> ?
[21:48] <lokifaer> hi all
[21:51] <lokifaer> I just installed 17.10 and fought for adding the auto num lock with numlockx
[21:52] <lokifaer> then I finally realized that the command itself doesn't do anything at all
[21:52] <oerheks> new0, did you use something like smb://ip/share/dirpath ?
[21:52] <oerheks> not just //ip
[21:52] <adalbert> new0: did you try \\ or \\\\ ? I believe on windows you need 4slashes ...
[21:53] <new0> adalbert, ok. Q when i click Property of Folder in home dir "Music" and click the tab "Local Network Share" does it belong to samba?
[21:53] <lokifaer> any idea what's happening here?
[21:53] <adalbert> new0: i believe it does .
[21:53] <new0> oerheks, in windows you just do \\IP or \\Netbios-name\share-folder
[21:54] <new0> adalbert, can u make sure? if u want of course :0
[21:54] <new0> adalbert, * :)
[21:55] <adalbert> new0: I don't have windows 7 ...
[21:55] <lokifaer> new0, what is it you wanna do?
[21:56] <BlitzerHound> It's still possible to get malware and viruses on ubuntu right? How do I check or scan or something?
[21:56] <BlitzerHound> My system's been running really laggy lately and seemingly for no reason
[21:57] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: not if you're sticking to the original repo's...
[21:57] <BlitzerHound> I mean I haven't installed anything shady
[21:57] <adalbert> adalbert: BlitzerHound , 3th party ... anything could happen :D
[21:57] <BlitzerHound> Aside from stuff on wine. But that wouldn't affect anything would it?
[21:58] <new0> adalbert, i was referring to "Locat Network Share" tab on Music folder property. lokifaer, i wanted to know if this tab is connected to samba or it just Ubuntu share?! also why when access share folder from win7 to ubuntu/samba it's not prompting for user and password. i do have security = user in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:58] <BlitzerHound> Is there like a system restore function or something? I'm just trying to figure out how to stop the lag on my system
[21:59] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: what's the load on your system?
[21:59] <BlitzerHound> Um... I dunno
[21:59] <Jordan_U> BlitzerHound: There are many things that can cause Ubuntu to become laggy, from bugs to misconfiguration. The least likely reason is malware. Do note however that Windows malware *can* run via Wine, and wine doesn't provide you much in the way of protection from that. If malware would encrypt all your personal files and ransom you in Windows, it will do the same if you run the same executable via wine.
[21:59] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: try top or htop
[22:00] <BlitzerHound> Okay. I see something that says load average: 1.89, 2.37, 1.53
[22:01] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: that is acceptable ... but close to influencing desktop reaction .
[22:01] <BlitzerHound> The main thing that's most notable is that when I run youtube, the videos run really laggy and not in sync with the audio
[22:01] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: check your top 10 processes that are using cpu and figure out what might be causing it.
[22:02] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: a load of close to 2, something is dragging ...
[22:03] <BlitzerHound> The top process says 'main'. The other ones are under 2mb of memory
[22:03] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: memory doesn't matter much, cpu is the key here.
[22:03] <BlitzerHound> And nothing seems to be taking up much cpu.
[22:04] <BlitzerHound> It's just all 0 besides the system monitor I'm using
[22:04] <lokifaer> new0, the folder you try to access from win7 is inside your home directory?
[22:04] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: impossible with a load of 2...
[22:04] <BlitzerHound> Should I not be checking from the system monitor?
[22:04] <new0> lokifaer, yes
[22:05] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: run top or htop as root ... sudo top, sudo htop.
[22:05] <lokifaer> do you use the same user on both os?
[22:05] <BlitzerHound> I don't understand what I'm looking at
[22:05] <new0> lokifaer, of course if i set guest ok =yes it will be access but i don't want it to be accessable without user and pass
[22:06] <BlitzerHound> I see something that says xorg and that's taking up 15.9 cpu
[22:06] <new0> lokifaer, not the same user
[22:06] <BlitzerHound> But fluctuating from that to 2.0
[22:06] <new0> lokifaer, the problem right now is that not prompting for user and pass at all
[22:06] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: run htop, make screenshot , post to imgur pls
[22:06] <BlitzerHound> c k
[22:06] <lokifaer> new0, i see
[22:07] <BlitzerHound> says command htop not found
[22:07] <lokifaer> i assume you restarted your ubuntu to take your changes into account?
[22:08] <BlitzerHound> The print screen button won't work. How else can I take a screenshot?
[22:08] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: install gnome-screenshot , sudo apt install gnome-screenshot
[22:09] <lokifaer> BlitzerHound, you should already have a screnshot tool installed
[22:09] <new0> lokifaer, this is what i am just reading about.. to reboot ubuntu. just not sure why i needed to
[22:09] <new0> lokifaer, but i could try
[22:09] <BlitzerHound> I do, but I'm using it with the unity thing and for some reason it wont' screenshot with the print button like normal
[22:09] <BlitzerHound> Also sudo apt-get instal gnome-screenshot isn't doing anything
[22:10] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: err, sudo apt install gnome-screenshot ... my bad
[22:10] <BlitzerHound> That doesn't do anything either
[22:10] <BlitzerHound> Oh wait
[22:10] <lokifaer> BlitzerHound, use your Ubuntu software to find one
[22:10] <BlitzerHound> It says it's already installed
[22:11] <adalbert> ...
[22:11] <new0> lokifaer, mmmm btw my ubuntu is rebooted. i just remember that i did it after major update and dist-upgrade
[22:12] <Jordan_U> BlitzerHound: Gnome System Monitor is a GUI system monitor that can be easier to understand.
[22:12] <new0> lokifaer, tomreyn and kostkon helped me a lot on the subject
[22:12] <BlitzerHound> One sec, I can fix this I think.
[22:12] <BlitzerHound> brb
[22:13] <lokifaer> new0, what did they say?
[22:14] <new0> lokifaer, at the moment i have few problems, would u like to hear?
[22:14] <lokifaer> new0, PM me
[22:14] <new0> lokifaer, they already solved it. it was update problem and few samba problem that got solve somehow
[22:14] <new0> lokifaer, np
[22:15] <new0> lokifaer, what is the cmd for PM?
[22:15] <lokifaer> new0, no idea :P
[22:27] <BlitzerHound> https://imgur.com/a/Z8o8s
[22:27] <BlitzerHound> There we go
[22:28] <BlitzerHound> Also worth noting, it doesn't seem to start lagging until after I open firefox
[22:28] <BlitzerHound> That or it was coincidental and it starts lagging a few minutes after I start the computer
[22:29] <NginUS> My script runs fine manually, but 1 line doesn't when cron runs it. Not sure why...
[22:31] <BlitzerHound> Is the person that was helping me still here?
[22:31] <xamithan> You using bash specific commands ?  cron doesn't like those unless you set the env first
[22:33] <ycyclist> This is from page 16 of the book:
[22:33] <ycyclist> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HSjktc8hWC/
[22:34] <lokifaer> did anyone already have that issue: numlockx doesn't work on my Ubuntu 17.10?
[22:34] <ycyclist> You can see there is an attempted compile at the top.
[22:34] <BlitzerHound> What is zeitgeist-daemon and zeitgeist-hub? Those sound ominous
[22:34] <ycyclist> Looks like this is before some modern usage decision to leave off the .h extensions.
[22:35] <lokifaer> +
[22:35] <ycyclist> The book is _STL Tutorial and Reference Guide_ by Stepanov.
[22:36] <ycyclist> I thought maybe there would be a command like g++ p16ex1d1.cpp -o p16ex1d1 -g -std=c++1 or something like that.
[22:36] <SlidingHorn> !info zeitgeist-daemon
[22:36] <mrleaW> Successfuly not find any explanation on google about how to install CGI:IRC on ubuntu 16.04 LTS ! I'll apreciate if u give me more info about this irc webclient instalation ! Thanks in advanced!
[22:37] <SlidingHorn> !info zeitgeist
[22:39] <Jordan_U> NginUS: Please pastebin your complete script and the crontab line you made for it.
[22:40] <BlitzerHound> Oh.
[22:40] <BlitzerHound> Is that a bad thing?
[22:41] <BlitzerHound> Event logging sounds kinda bad
[22:41] <Jordan_U> BlitzerHound: It's not malware, and I have no problem with it, but some people don't like it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_(free_software)
[22:41] <BlitzerHound> As long as it isn't malware I'm fine
[22:42] <NginUS> Jordan_U: It's the screen line that doesn't run but those above do https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8jJp782W2w/
[22:47] <BlitzerHound> Is there a way to figure out why my system is lagging with this info?
[22:47] <BlitzerHound> https://imgur.com/a/YNrjT
[22:48] <BlitzerHound> I looked on the internet and it told me to do that, but I don't know what I'm looking at
[22:51] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound: jbd is using a ton of resources (it's apparently a python wrapper around rsync [a software used for backups, etc])
[22:51] <BlitzerHound> So what should I do?
[22:52] <BlitzerHound> I don't see jbd on the process list
[22:52] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: your drive is writing at 99%
[22:52] <SlidingHorn> well, first, I'd look into why you needed to install jbd (it's not in the repos), if you still need it, and figure out why it's running when you don't know it.
[22:53] <BlitzerHound> Is there a way to straightout uninstall it? I don't remember installing that
[22:53] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: stop rsync ... ?
[22:54] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound: it's in the window at the bottom left of your screenshot...it's currently holding 99% of your disk I/O and presumably is the python application using 12% of your CPU
[22:55] <BlitzerHound> It said I don't have a 'stop' command
[22:55] <BlitzerHound> But I have 17 similar commands
[22:55] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: first show us which process is linked to the 12% cpu pls
[22:56] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound: ^^ that's in the htop window
[22:56] <BlitzerHound> Alright, I see it. So how do I like... uninstall it? Like I said, I don't need it, I don't remember installing it
[22:56] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: fullscreen htop output pls
[22:57] <tgm4883> You shouldn't try to remove jbd2
[22:57] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: you can stop rsync : sudo service rsync stop
[22:58] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: see if that calms things down.
[22:58] <BlitzerHound> ok
[22:58] <tgm4883> I'm a little concerned that someone suggested you do so
[22:59] <BlitzerHound> Would it be bad to have on?
[22:59] <BlitzerHound> Also, it seems like it's still kinda lagging. Better though, for sure.
[22:59] <Seveas> jbd2 is part of the kernel, part of interacting with the disks. You cannot remove it. If it's busy, that simply means you're doing lots of I/O
[22:59] <tgm4883> exactly
[22:59] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: unless you're using rsync, you shouldn't use it.
[22:59] <Seveas> and yeah, rsycn doing lots of I/O will make jbd2 busy :)
[22:59] <BlitzerHound> https://imgur.com/a/Ff86p
[23:00] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: check load in 5 minutes, it should be below 1
[23:00] <BlitzerHound> How do I check just the load?
[23:00] <Seveas> BlitzerHound: 'uptime'
[23:00] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: or htop
[23:01] <Seveas> or cat /proc/loadavg :)
[23:01] <adalbert> Load Average
[23:03] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: in order to stop rsync from running on the next boot you can use: sudo systemctl disable rsync
[23:04] <BlitzerHound> Alright, I'll do that.
[23:04] <BlitzerHound> I'm watching the load average and it IS going down steadily it seems.
[23:05] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: check also for sure if the 99% IO is gone now in iotop.
[23:07] <BlitzerHound> No, it's still there
[23:07] <BlitzerHound> It says jbd2/sda 1-8
[23:08] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: still at 99%?
[23:08] <BlitzerHound> Yeah
[23:08] <HoloIRCUser3> Hello I just installed ubuntu mate and I noticed that the secondary click on my trackpad is a two-finger click versus a right-click is there any way to change this to a right-click thanks
[23:08] <new0> 1) when opening share folder.. it's just opened, not user and pass prompt. 2) second, when i explore via Netbios name \\computer-name all shared folder are opening, and when i explore via \\IP it's acting like the smb.conf meaning guest ok = yes are opened and valid users = a-user get me an error of "windows cannot access..."
[23:08] <new0> any solution?
[23:13] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: that last screenshot , is that sudo htop or just htop ?
[23:14] <BlitzerHound> I'll do a sudo htop just to be sure
[23:14] <NutsEverywhere> anyone here using budgie desktop?
[23:16] <SlidingHorn> NutsEverywhere: what's your actual question?
[23:17] <BlitzerHound> This is the sudo htop
[23:17] <BlitzerHound> https://imgur.com/a/RTkAh
[23:18] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: well, that certainly looks oke.
[23:18] <BlitzerHound> c But the io thing is still at 99
[23:19] <BlitzerHound> And it's still lagging
[23:19] <BlitzerHound> Should I try rebooting maybe?
[23:19] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: are you running any Raid formation on the system?
[23:19] <BlitzerHound> I'd assume not since I don't know what that is
[23:19] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: then try a reboot yes.
[23:19] <BlitzerHound> Ok. brb
[23:24] <BlitzerHound> Okay so I don't know if anything worked but it's not lagging. I haven't started firefox though
[23:25] <BlitzerHound> Also update, the thing with 99 on the iotop isn't showing up
[23:26] <BlitzerHound> adalbert: Should I start firefox and see if it stays that way?
[23:26] <NutsEverywhere> SlidingHorn Raven Sidebar Control is on the right of the top panel, but the sidebar itself opens from the left, is there a way to fix it?
[23:29] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: so far so good , i suppose ?
[23:30] <BlitzerHound> Yeah, so far
[23:30] <BlitzerHound> But again I haven't started anything but smuxi
[23:31] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: just keep an eye on iotop.
[23:31] <BlitzerHound> Alright. I'm gonna try firefox.
[23:32] <BlitzerHound> See the second I opened firefox it started again
[23:32] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: really ? well then I guess there's something wrong with the firefox installation ...
[23:33] <BlitzerHound> Gonna reboot and see if it starts with chromium
[23:33] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: OK
[23:33] <BlitzerHound> Is there a possibility I'm being spied on or something?
[23:33] <BlitzerHound> brb
[23:34] <new0> !samba
[23:34] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound & adalbert let's take into account here that the machine is only 2GB of memory and is running Gnome & FF, which is going to use over half of that off the bat
[23:35] <adalbert> SlidingHorn: true, but the problem is jbd, taking up 99% in resources in iotop.
[23:36] <SlidingHorn> adalbert: I apologize, I assumed when they said "it started again" that they meant lag, not necessarily the I/O max-out issue
[23:36] <adalbert> SlidingHorn: if this was only for a couple of seconds or minutes it would be oke, but persistent 99% sounds like a loop somewhere
[23:36] <xuanrui> Anyone here familiar with the final beta of 18.04?
[23:37] <SlidingHorn> xuanrui: head to #ubuntu+1
[23:37] <adalbert> SlidingHorn: right, that's one thing to figure out.
[23:39] <xuanrui> Thx
[23:42] <BlitzerHound> adalbert: Yeah man it's not going away. It starts with both firefox and chrome
[23:42] <BlitzerHound> And I think this time It just started up with the system
[23:42] <BlitzerHound> Starting to get worried. I'm already paranoid as it is
[23:44] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound: just to clarify something:  by "it" are you talking about the jbd process or do you just mean the lag?
[23:44] <BlitzerHound> both
[23:45] <BlitzerHound> Well the process started when I booted up possibly, but for sure the lag hit when I opened chromium
[23:45] <SlidingHorn> could you post the output of   ls ~/.config/autostart
[23:45] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: well, as I know nothing about jbd workings and such, this goes beyond my knowledge... Anyone else in that area ?
[23:46] <SlidingHorn> (pastebin, please)
[23:46] <BlitzerHound> Pastebin what?
[23:46] <BlitzerHound> The iotop thing?
[23:47] <SlidingHorn> BlitzerHound: sorry I didn't tag you:    please pastebin the output of    ls ~/.config/autostart
[23:48] <BlitzerHound> Says there's no such file or directory
[23:51] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: if you really want to get paranoid, run iftop :)
[23:52] <BlitzerHound> Also, is it normal to have a file named "Trolltech.conf" in your .config folder?
[23:53] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: I seriously doubt it !
[23:54] <BlitzerHound> I just searched and it says it's normal. o3o
[23:54] <BlitzerHound> I dunno. Is there a way to just permanently disable that one process? Or does it not work like that?
[23:55] <adalbert> BlitzerHound: as far as I know, you need jbd, it handles the data-transactions from system to disks etc