[12:54] <paradis> I recently tried to download windows 10 iso and the file is only 64.0kb
[12:54] <paradis> it mentioned that it is raw image
[12:55] <paradis> but then after a few hours I visited the website again and try to download another but now the file size is 4.4GB
[12:55] <paradis> what happened?
[12:55] <paradis> is it me or is it the website or malware or anything?
[12:55] <paradis> I used newly installed lubuntu 17.10.1
[12:56] <diogenes_> paradis, didn't you know? windows is malware
[12:56] <JohnDoe71rus> paradis: https://mereorthodoxy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/54353572.jpg :)
[12:57] <diogenes_> JohnDoe71rus, squidward didn't believe in magic :)
[12:58] <JohnDoe71rus> he is not squidward
[12:59] <diogenes_> ik, I'm talking about that specific episode
[12:59] <paradis> diogenes_: what do you mean? I downloaded it from microsoft.com
[13:00] <paradis> I'm really dumb
[13:00] <diogenes_> paradis, I mean that windows itself is malware combined with spyware and adware, no matter when you get it from
[13:00] <diogenes_> even if microsoft will hend it over to you personally it will still be malware
[13:01] <JohnDoe71rus> and ubuntu with addware search not malware?
[13:01] <paradis> you know you make have a headache rite
[13:01] <paradis> make me
[13:01] <paradis> I have a headache
[13:01] <diogenes_> JohnDoe71rus, at least you can switch it off
[13:01] <diogenes_> and it's open source
[13:02] <JohnDoe71rus> you can not use windows. it's free world
[13:03] <paradis> but almost every software use windows
[13:03] <diogenes_> it depends, if you love freedom or you fin yourself perfectly well being under control and enslaved
[13:03] <diogenes_> find*
[13:03] <diogenes_> paradis, every software has an alternative
[13:03] <paradis> lol
[13:03] <diogenes_> almost every
[13:04] <JohnDoe71rus> then you use MacOS
[13:04] <paradis> is MacOS better?
[13:04] <diogenes_> that's even better, it's like you pay money to be fooled and mistreated when you decide to use MacOS
[13:04] <JohnDoe71rus> MacOS is more  control and enslaved
[13:05] <diogenes_> it's like when you have to choose between two evils, you choose the lesser one, then better go with MS than with MacOS
[15:15] <Harel> there enybody here?
[15:16] <Harel> ??
[16:19] <Harel> hellooo??
[16:20] <diogenes_> hi
[16:55] <Harel> someone can help me?
[16:55] <Harel> omeone can help me?
[16:56] <diogenes_> !ask
[16:57] <Harel> thenks..
[16:59] <Harel> I just install Lubuntu and it's work good and fast. I just have one problem, when I reboot it's taking 10 minuts until the OS is up
[17:00] <wxl> you have a fresh lubuntu install with nothing else installed?
[17:00] <Harel> yes
[17:01] <wxl> and how much ram/cpu you have?
[17:01] <diogenes_> Harel, run: inxi -Fxrc0
[17:01] <diogenes_> !pastebin
[17:02] <Harel> pntium 4 cpu and 512 RAM
[17:02] <wxl> that's pretty darn strapped
[17:02] <wxl> my guess is you have low speed ram and a low speed hard drive too
[17:02] <wxl> none of that helps
[17:02] <wxl> add more, get an ssd, and you'll make a big difference
[17:03] <diogenes_> Harel, with those specs, you need to install antix OS and it will run just fine
[17:06] <Harel> look befor the install I had  mint 9 and the it took around 1 minut to restart
[17:08] <diogenes_> Harel, ok run: systemd-analyze blame
[17:08] <diogenes_> and you will see which processes take up longer time to load
[17:14] <Harel>    9min 148ms dev-sda1.device     7min 29.186s gpu-manager.service     7min 29.136s ondemand.service     7min 29.117s pppd-dns.service     7min 29.103s grub-common.service     7min 29.056s rsyslog.service     7min 28.970s avahi-daemon.service          15.226s apparmor.service           9.990s ModemManager.service           9.518s NetworkManager-wait-online.service           9.397s snapd.service           8.518s systemd-udevd.service 
[17:14] <diogenes_> oh my god
[17:15] <diogenes_> yeah, I don't have that much life to wait till such a system boots up XD
[17:16] <genii> What is this running on, some Pentium 1 ?
[17:16] <Harel> 4
[17:16] <diogenes_> Harel, maybe the hard drive is dying?
[17:16] <genii> I'd check dmesg for I/O things
[17:17] <Harel> i'd check that
[17:17] <Harel> and its look fine
[17:18] <Harel> sory abuot my english
[17:18] <Harel> i alredy checked that
[17:19] <diogenes_> Harel, did you install with IDE or AHCI driver?
[17:20] <genii> I'd hazard a guess then that it's choking at dev-sda1.device for so long because it needs to use swap but it's not available yet
[17:29] <Harel> I don't know
[17:31] <Harel> maybe I will return to linux mint
[17:31] <Harel> :(
[17:40] <wxl> Harel: if the issue is somehow related to systemd, Cindy's supposed to go to it, so that may be why you hadn't experienced issues there
[17:40] <wxl> tl;dr mint may not save you
[19:02] <Harel> wxl sooo... what do I need to do?
[19:04] <Harel> there is a forum that I can ask there?
[19:05] <krytarik> Yes, ##hardware
[19:06] <Harel> can you sand me link?
[19:06] <krytarik> Yes, "/join ##hardware"
[19:15] <Harel> krytarik its not hardware problem
[19:15] <krytarik> Oh?  I thought that was well established by now.
[19:24] <Harel> thanks krytarik.. I will install mint again
[19:25] <krytarik> Cool - like wxl indicated, good luck!
[23:00] <mvdct> Hi all. Apologies if this goes horribly wrong. I'm more of a forum rather than a IRC person. I've been using Lubuntu for a while on an old Samsung N110. Then got hit by the Intel Mobile Graphics 945 issues with Kernel 4.13 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1724639). What versions of Lubuntu can I use which are free of this issue and/or when will new issue free versions become available? Thanks in advance.
[23:02] <krytarik> mvdct: Did you try the workaround mentioned there yet though?
[23:11] <mvdct> hi. yes. thanks. it works (after a fashion).... I just wondered if Lubuntu was using kernel 4.15 or 4.16 any time soon?
[23:12] <krytarik> !info linux-generic bionic
[23:13] <krytarik> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule - so in a week. :)
[23:15] <mvdct> Thanks krytarik. I saw signs of "BB" on other pages... But only "april". The 26th?! Fab. I can wait for that. Thank you muchly.
[23:15] <krytarik> Welcome. :)