/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/04/18/#ubports.txt

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ubptgbot<jakko> πŸ‘03:42
ubptgbotDhaval was added by: Dhaval04:54
ubptgbot<Dhaval> Does it support android 4.3 ?04:55
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Flohack, Haha05:02
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @jonny, Tell him Wayne Out There demands results05:04
ubptgbotneversettle was added by: neversettle05:36
ubptgbot<jonny> Isnt there a way to upgrade to 16.04 via command line?05:49
ubptgbot<KrisJacewicz> @jonny, there is. After connecting your phone via usb use command line to flash 16.04 onto your phone.05:55
ubptgbot<jonny> @KrisJacewicz, And how do I know what to do? Adb and fastboot access I have.05:56
ubptgbot<Flohack> @jonny, You need a cmdline for ubuntu device flash, but I am on the road, cant take a proper look06:08
ubptgbot<jonny> Ok, I will look into it at night.06:10
ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> @jonny, when i had this kind of problems i could resolve cleaning the cache of the ubports-installer. it always store all the downloaded packages...07:14
ubptgbot<jonny> @andreasimonetti, Sounds good. Where do I find that?07:18
ubptgbot<woozy_wolf> Which new Device would you recommend for Ubuntu Touch? Thanks so far. πŸ‘Œ07:43
ubptgbot<G_Raffe> @woozy_wolf, FairPhone 207:45
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ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> @jonny, if i remember well.. /home/user/.cache/ubports07:52
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ubptgbot<advocatux> @woozy_wolf, Hard to say without knowing budget, availability, needs, etc. See yourself the current devices list http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices08:20
ubptgbot<NotKit> @Dhaval, UBPorts is not Android08:20
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @woozy_wolf, If you are insterested in convergence the Nexus 5 is the Winner08:21
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Dhaval & @neversettle. If you are new to UBports I suggest that you read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome08:29
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @malditobastardo, I would get a OnePlusThree and be prepared to be very patient08:33
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @Stereofont, This too!08:43
ubptgbot<woozy_wolf> @advocatux, @advocatux Thank you. πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘09:12
ubptgbot<advocatux> @woozy_wolf, You're welcome!09:13
ubptgbot<Dhaval> @NotKit, What are hardware requirement for device ? Or will it install on sony xperia m ?09:29
ubptgbot<NotKit> the minimum is 1 GB RAM and ARMv7 CPU, but it will install only on the devices in the list: http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices09:31
ubptgbot<NotKit> everything else needs porting/adaptation, which is not straightforward to do09:31
ubptgbot<Zack> 16.04 is stable? 😱09:47
ubptgbot<G_Raffe> No09:47
ubptgbot<G_Raffe> not at all09:47
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> @Zack, it will be.09:49
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ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @YougoChats hope this works well for you my man :D10:10
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Fwd from O0O00O0OO: Using the libertine app, install vlc-plugin-sdl. Then go to Tools -> Preferences in VLC. There, click on "All", bottom left corner. In the left column you find Video -> Output Modules. Choose "Simple DirectMedia Layer video output"10:10
ubptgbot<YougoChats> done 😊10:26
ubptgbot<YougoChats> also "colored ascii art video output"? lol10:26
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Haha yeah that's some trippy stuff if you're ever on hallucinogenics.10:27
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Another advantage of VLC over the native media player app is the ability to run network streams e.g. from Youtube.10:28
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Also, I know how to tweak Audacity's settings to get it running on UT hardware - if that interests you too, just ask.10:28
ubptgbot<Mark> @TartanSpartan, :o You can get Audacity running on an N5?10:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Mark, No. Nothing works in libertine on n5, as there's a weird bug there11:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> @jonny, Via adb, on phone, run `system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubports-touch/16.04/devel`11:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> Maybe need to run with sudo, too. Don't recall exactly11:10
ubptgbot<Mark> @dohbee, Thanks Rodney.11:19
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> just got my nexus 5 will magic device tool work11:21
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @Mark Mullins, It works.  But it takes you to legacy build11:23
ubptgbot<technicalbird> Use the official flashing tool11:24
ubptgbot<Dhaval> @NotKit, When I open this page http://ubuntu-touch.io/device/titan  β€¦ Getting 404 not found error.11:34
ubptgbot<NotKit> https://ubports.com/ru_RU/blog/ubports-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-9311:35
ubptgbot<NotKit> [Edit] https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-9311:36
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TartanSpartan, hi seumas, please do it and post image of both running11:43
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> 😺😺11:43
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @TartanSpartan, yes please, starting audacity instantly and consistently crashes my FP2 :P12:08
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Rejoice in the consistently part.12:36
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> People seek high and low for consistency and you have found the pearl.12:37
ubptgbot<YougoChats> it's strangely satisfying. so much better than the random crashing my FP2 usually does.13:29
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Does it fail on startup, or can you tweak settings but then it crashs if you try to load a song?13:31
ubptgbot<YougoChats> it shows the app splash for about a second, then shows the FP2 bootsplash 😊13:34
ubptgbot<YougoChats> secretly, the app is just a script issuing reboot -f13:37
ubptgbot<YougoChats> *don't do that, it breaks things*13:37
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Well then IDK how to cure that, my crash was the latter, less-breaking case. Maybe a dependency problem?13:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> well your turbo does have 4GB RAM, and octacore SoC no?13:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> FP2 has 1GB?13:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> probably not totally unrelated :)13:43
ubptgbot<YougoChats> sounds about right. looks to me like a standard issue out of memory FP2 drama queen quit event13:44
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, 2Gb13:44
ubptgbot<YougoChats> heh. someone tell my FP2 that :P13:44
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> But Audacity isn't overly memory intensive, I don't think. And it runs on my M10 too which also only has 2GB. Not sure how similar the M10 and FP2's CPU are though.13:54
ubptgbot<YougoChats> FP2's cpu looks like this: … https://t.me/ubports_ot/1316614:27
ubptgbot<K31j0> MSM8974 is not bad..14:27
ubptgbot<K31j0> At least it'll get mainline the fastest eventually14:29
ubptgbot<K31j0> also, it doesn't have big.LITTLE, which is a plus to me14:29
ubptgbot<K31j0> more cores don't matter if they only end up draining more power14:29
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> install complete were are storage settings and usage14:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> usage is in system settings under about, iirc14:41
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> oh and where is the nearby scope14:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's not in the open store14:44
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> oh14:45
ubptgbot<Mark> Where did the Nearby Scope pull its data from?14:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Mark, other scopes. it's just an aggregator: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nearby-team/nearby-scope/trunk/view/head:/click-src/aggregator/child_scopes.json#L21714:48
ubptgbot<Mark> :) That's a very interesting page! So the answer is: no, it wouldn't be easy just to create a web app in stead.14:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, it'd be easy for someone to build a click, but most of those scopes are probably no longer avaialble either14:57
ubptgbot<YougoChats> i still happen to actually have the today scope installed. it is completely empty as all the services that used to feed content to it are no longer there. i expect the same goes for nearby scope.15:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> well you probably don't have any of the child scopes it queries from15:03
ubptgbot<YougoChats> it never lived up to it's potential, and as it would be up to the maintainers to extract the data from 3rd party sources (3rd party sources like their own apps and won't cooperate without incentive $ ) i'm not surprised or upset Ubports team took a differen direction and priority15:05
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @dohbee, it only shows telegram, in a pretty useless way15:06
ubptgbot<Sconio> It is a shame not to be able to use the scopes that he was present in the old versions ub ...15:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> @YougoChats, right, all the other scopes don't exist in the open store: https://open-store.io/?type=scope15:07
ubptgbot<Mark> I'm fairly ambivalent about scopes on the whole, but the nearby scope idea was a very good one.15:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> i guess, if you like broadcasting your location to N different web services all at the same time15:08
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Mark, the "today-scope" was interesting for me15:09
ubptgbot<Sconio> Yes15:09
ubptgbot<Sconio> Today Scope15:10
ubptgbot<YougoChats> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/fX2GfmO4.png15:11
ubptgbot<YougoChats> the one thing it shows isn't even recent15:12
ubptgbot<YougoChats> or helpul15:13
ubptgbot<YougoChats> [Edit] or helpful15:13
ubptgbot<YougoChats> [Edit] or helpfull15:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> the telegram scope is going away at some point too, i think15:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, i guess all scopes are15:18
ubptgbotSamuele was added by: Samuele16:02
ubptgbot<Samuele> Hey16:04
ubptgbot<NikosChat> Welcome Samuele16:05
ubptgbot<Samuele> :)16:06
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Samuele, Hi Samuele, you can take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed16:08
ubptgbot<advocatux> There are language groups too16:09
ubptgbot<Samuele> Oh! Thanks, I will.16:09
ubptgbot<AkshitGarg> @advocatux, No bots?16:09
ubptgbot<Samuele> @advocatux, That's nice.16:09
ubptgbot<advocatux> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/WsAMUvFk.webp16:10
ubptgbot<AkshitGarg> @advocatux, πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»16:10
ubptgbot<Samuele> I was reading the faq and i noticed a typo... Is there anyone that i can report that to?16:27
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Best OS eva16:40
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Is chromecast supported as wireless display16:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> chromecast is not supported, no16:45
ubptgbot<Samuele> Is there a way to emulate ubports on a pc? I'd like to try it out, but i don't have a supported device16:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> not really17:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> you can run a unity8 session on an ubuntu 16.04 VM for example, but there are some differences, and lots of apps are only compiled for armhf on 15.0417:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> (apps in the open store that is)17:01
ubptgbot<Samuele> Oh17:10
ubptgbot<Samuele> Well, i haven't run unity in a while … I might do that17:10
ubptgbot<Samuele> What about the raspberry pi?17:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> you could run unity8 on it too i guess. you can run more click apps from the store there, but the experience will still be mostly the same as running it on x86 PC17:20
ubptgbot<Samuele> Oh ok17:24
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> What is the status of andbox17:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> the status of anbox is that it's still not available on all devices, and 16.04 is not a stable release yet17:29
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Thnx17:29
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Eta for 16.0417:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> not before it's ready17:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> which should be sometime before the heat death of the universe17:33
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Samuele, I think @wayneoutthere can tell you17:38
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Are there any music recognition apps for ut17:52
ubptgbotAlaattin Ozcelik was added by: Alaattin Ozcelik17:56
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Mark Mullins, No.You could make your own webapp though17:58
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hello Alaattin. Check this link for more about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome18:00
ubptgbotJason was added by: Sconio18:02
ubptgbot<Rkstl> I have halium ubports installed. It does not boot, but if i try to connect thru ssh it hangs without output, and it doesnt even ask for the password. Suggestionz?18:08
ubptgbot<dohniks> repeat the setting up of the rmnet, maybe it's your local network manager that is messing with it18:21
ubptgbot<dohniks> (and there is a halium channel and a ubports porting one)18:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Alternatively, let me know if this works: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/56018:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Try setting the IP first.18:24
ubptgbot<Rkstl> @dohniks, I always set it, in halium reference and plasma mobile ssh works18:27
ubptgbot<Rkstl> I will try that thing18:28
ubptgbot<Rkstl> It worked D:. Now i get a permission denied, but I played a bit with pam stuff so, i'll reinstall the rootfs and see if the problem was that18:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Rkstl, Hmm. What device, kernel, and chipset?18:38
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> so yeah.  is there a way to find messages to myself in the thread above?  after you check the mentioned message and then want to go back, it's lost .. anyway.18:40
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> someone here mentioned a typo?  I'm your man.  PM me any typos and I can handle this job! :)18:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> Samuele ^18:43
ubptgbot<K31j0> crap, sorry18:51
ubptgbot<K31j0> missclick18:51
ubptgbot<Rkstl> @UniversalSuperBox, Samsung galaxy on7 pro anyway it works now18:55
ubptgbot<Rkstl> However systemctl says "failed to list units:Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1:permission denied". What about this?18:56
ubptgbot<Mark Mullins> Is anyone currently working on a car mode for ut18:58
ubptgbot<Samuele> @wayneoutthere, Here, sorry for the late reply18:59
ubptgbot<Samuele> I noticed a typo in the faq in the minimum requirements section18:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Mark Mullins, not sure what that would be, so probably unlikely18:59
ubptgbot<K31j0> Yeah, what do you mean by car mode19:00
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Probably a car integration … I think android and apple have that19:01
ubptgbot<K31j0> Well we can't integrate19:01
ubptgbot<K31j0> into their proprietary bullshit19:01
ubptgbot<K31j0> like CarPlay19:01
ubptgbot<K31j0> or Android Auto19:01
ubptgbot<Samuele> Of course19:02
ubptgbot<K31j0> For me I was thinking about integrating raspberry pi into a car after I get one19:03
ubptgbot<K31j0> AFAIK there's no open platform like CarPlay/Android Auto19:03
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Nice!19:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'm not even sure what those two things do19:04
ubptgbot<Samuele> @dohbee, Me too19:04
ubptgbot<Samuele> Proably notification info19:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> They show music status, notifications, and other stuff on the car's dashboard19:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And they allow the use of Siri or Google Assistant (depending on the integration, of course) from a button on the steering wheel19:05
ubptgbot<Samuele> @UniversalSuperBox, Music status is already a thing using bluetooth i think19:05
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Ubuntu Touch may disappoint you there...19:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, nexus 4 apparently doesn't do a2dp anyway19:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> at least i couldn't get it to stream music to my car, even with android19:06
ubptgbot<Samuele> (Photo, 1138x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/YI6NJJ9G.png19:06
ubptgbot<K31j0> Maybe chip's broken19:06
ubptgbot<Samuele> @Samuele, @wayneoutthere19:07
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Samuele, I think we could pull something off with XBMC/Kodi/Whateverit'scallednow19:09
ubptgbot<K31j0> Aaaaaaaaaand I need to study bluez for phone integration19:09
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Is kodi available yet?19:09
ubptgbot<K31j0> cable isn't really that great for talking to the phone, because >Android kernels19:09
ubptgbot<K31j0> For Pi there's even a distro which is made solely to ship kodi19:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> an actual in-car stereo would need a lot of customization from where unity8 is today19:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> the  current interaction model is not really suited for certain uses19:10
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Yeah, i tried that on mine … I prefer thinkering so i installed raspbian instead19:10
ubptgbot<K31j0> Well I'd only use stereo as a display for my project anyway19:10
ubptgbot<K31j0> Or just slam a display and an amplifier in there19:10
ubptgbot<K31j0> no wheel controls then, but whatever19:11
ubptgbot<Samuele> It would be nice to have a plugin for kodi that integrates with the phone over bt19:11
ubptgbot<Samuele> That way it would be portable19:11
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Unless you modify the wheel controls19:12
ubptgbot<K31j0> That needs tinkering with bluez19:12
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Does bt work well rn?19:12
ubptgbot<K31j0> I don't even know if it has documentation19:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> you don't need to modify wheel controls19:13
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Samuele, where? I can imagine Pi3's integrated bluetooth will work well19:13
ubptgbot<K31j0> @dohbee, Depends on the car19:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> not really. what is needed, is an electrical interface to interpret the button presses19:14
ubptgbot<Samuele> @dohbee, The pi would be nice for that19:14
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, I meant in ubports19:14
ubptgbot<K31j0> Depends on the device I guess19:14
ubptgbot<K31j0> official devices marked as stable probaly work well, I have none, so I can't tell19:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> depending on the car, that may be CAN interface, or custom device to handle changes in resistance, or such19:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> or you can go for an ir or bluetooth remote control, too19:15
ubptgbot<Samuele> Yeah19:16
ubptgbot<Samuele> That could work19:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'd rather get a unity8-ish thing on my PC first, though19:17
ubptgbot<K31j0> In some generations of my favourite car there's fiber optics cable connecting stereo to everything else, but wheel controls have different cables prooobably19:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> bugatti?19:18
ubptgbot<Samuele> @K31j0, Fiber optics?! Nice19:18
ubptgbot<Samuele> @dohbee, Yeah... … Tbh i prefer xfce419:18
ubptgbot<K31j0> @dohbee, Saab 9-319:19
ubptgbot<K31j0> I don't dig supercars19:19
ubptgbot<K31j0> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cKg6wIEx.webp19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> pretty sure there's no fiber in a saab19:19
ubptgbot<Samuele> Why would they use fiber? Seems weird19:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> to waste money19:20
ubptgbot<Samuele> Yeah19:20
ubptgbot<dohniks> @Rkstl, ubports uses upstart not systemd. is that it?19:20
ubptgbot<K31j0> @dohbee, To bankrupt19:20
ubptgbot<K31j0> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC30RLEpKh0 some people bypass it, so19:21
ubptgbot<K31j0> like 2003-2007 have that19:21
ubptgbot<K31j0> it connects to the amp19:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> @dohniks, ubuntu 16.04 uses systemd for some things, upstart is still used for the user session, but systemd is used for system level things mostly19:21
ubptgbot<Rkstl> @dohniks, Yes, latest caf sudoku 7.1 rootfs19:21
ubptgbot<dohniks> @dohbee, oh, I didn't know. thanks!19:22
ubptgbot<Samuele> I hope there are optical in/out jacks for audio19:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> probably not19:22
ubptgbot<Samuele> Meh19:23
ubptgbot<Samuele> If everything uses fiber, having optical jacks seems logical19:23
ubptgbot<Samuele> Speaking about audio, the cd player in my hifi is the weirdest thing ever19:24
ubptgbot<Samuele> It's an ide cd drive connected to the amplifier19:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, the fiber connections there aren't the same as the fiber audio connection you normally see on consumer electronics19:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> but yes, i presume it's only used for the audio channels there19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> pops in19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> uh19:25
ubptgbot<Wolfgang Eder> (Photo, 591x361) https://irc.ubports.com/m4blMvDq.png Anybody any clue? Try to install UBPorts on my aquaris e 4.5...19:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyway, we're getting a bit off topic now with that19:26
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Wolfgang Eder, You need to use SPFlashTool to install Ubuntu on your device before you can use our installer19:26
ubptgbot<Samuele> @dohbee, I assumed so... Using standards = making less money on official repair kits19:26
ubptgbot<Wolfgang Eder> @UniversalSuperBox, And with the SPFlash Tool I do what exactly?19:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Wolfgang Eder, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices19:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Wolfgang Eder, Come to the install group19:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> we can help you there19:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> https://t.me/WelcomePlus19:29
ubptgbot<mymike00> @Samuele, are you italian Samuele? wanna join the italian group @ubportsitaliano?20:13
ubptgbotAntonio Rensi was added by: Antonio Rensi20:19
ubptgbot<Wolfgang Eder> @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the link.20:21
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Whe can i find more about anbox on ubports UT ?20:23
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> [Edit] Where can i find more about anbox on ubports UT ?20:23
ubptgbot<dohniks> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html20:31
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Ok! Thank you!20:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> And another Italian 😎20:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Antonio you just missed the link20:46
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Bur check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome20:46
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Oh! Allright, I will do it.20:46
ubptgbot<Stereofont> [Edit] But check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome20:47
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> I'm not Italian, my ancestors was, I'm brazilian.20:48
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> [Edit] I'm not Italian, my ancestors were, I'm brazilian.20:48
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Sincere apologies. There is however a Portuguese group 😎20:49
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It is in the link20:50
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Don't worry! I love Italy!20:50
ubptgbot<Stereofont> πŸ‘20:51
ubptgbot<Antonio Rensi> Thank you, Lionel!20:51
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