 👍
[04:54] <ubptgbot> Dhaval was added by: Dhaval
 Does it support android 4.3 ?
 @Flohack, Haha
 @jonny, Tell him Wayne Out There demands results
[05:36] <ubptgbot> neversettle was added by: neversettle
 Isnt there a way to upgrade to 16.04 via command line?
 @jonny, there is. After connecting your phone via usb use command line to flash 16.04 onto your phone.
 @KrisJacewicz, And how do I know what to do? Adb and fastboot access I have.
 @jonny, You need a cmdline for ubuntu device flash, but I am on the road, cant take a proper look
 Ok, I will look into it at night.
 @jonny, when i had this kind of problems i could resolve cleaning the cache of the ubports-installer. it always store all the downloaded packages...
 @andreasimonetti, Sounds good. Where do I find that?
 Which new Device would you recommend for Ubuntu Touch? Thanks so far. 👌
 @woozy_wolf, FairPhone 2
 @jonny, if i remember well.. /home/user/.cache/ubports
 @woozy_wolf, Hard to say without knowing budget, availability, needs, etc. See yourself the current devices list http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 @Dhaval, UBPorts is not Android
 @woozy_wolf, If you are insterested in convergence the Nexus 5 is the Winner
 Welcome Dhaval & @neversettle. If you are new to UBports I suggest that you read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @malditobastardo, I would get a OnePlusThree and be prepared to be very patient
 @Stereofont, This too!
 @advocatux, @advocatux Thank you. 😊👍
 @woozy_wolf, You're welcome!
 @NotKit, What are hardware requirement for device ? Or will it install on sony xperia m ?
 the minimum is 1 GB RAM and ARMv7 CPU, but it will install only on the devices in the list: http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 everything else needs porting/adaptation, which is not straightforward to do
 16.04 is stable? 😱
 No
 not at all
 @Zack, it will be.
 @YougoChats hope this works well for you my man :D
 Fwd from O0O00O0OO: Using the libertine app, install vlc-plugin-sdl. Then go to Tools -> Preferences in VLC. There, click on "All", bottom left corner. In the left column you find Video -> Output Modules. Choose "Simple DirectMedia Layer video output"
 done 😊
 also "colored ascii art video output"? lol
 Haha yeah that's some trippy stuff if you're ever on hallucinogenics.
 Another advantage of VLC over the native media player app is the ability to run network streams e.g. from Youtube.
 Also, I know how to tweak Audacity's settings to get it running on UT hardware - if that interests you too, just ask.
 @TartanSpartan, :o You can get Audacity running on an N5?
 @Mark, No. Nothing works in libertine on n5, as there's a weird bug there
 @jonny, Via adb, on phone, run `system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubports-touch/16.04/devel`
 Maybe need to run with sudo, too. Don't recall exactly
 @dohbee, Thanks Rodney.
[11:21] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> just got my nexus 5 will magic device tool work
 @Mark Mullins, It works.  But it takes you to legacy build
 Use the official flashing tool
 @NotKit, When I open this page http://ubuntu-touch.io/device/titan  … Getting 404 not found error.
 https://ubports.com/ru_RU/blog/ubports-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-93
 [Edit] https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-1/post/a-titan-in-the-community-93
 @TartanSpartan, hi seumas, please do it and post image of both running
 😺😺
 @TartanSpartan, yes please, starting audacity instantly and consistently crashes my FP2 :P
 Rejoice in the consistently part.
 People seek high and low for consistency and you have found the pearl.
 it's strangely satisfying. so much better than the random crashing my FP2 usually does.
 Does it fail on startup, or can you tweak settings but then it crashs if you try to load a song?
 it shows the app splash for about a second, then shows the FP2 bootsplash 😊
 secretly, the app is just a script issuing reboot -f
 *don't do that, it breaks things*
 Well then IDK how to cure that, my crash was the latter, less-breaking case. Maybe a dependency problem?
 well your turbo does have 4GB RAM, and octacore SoC no?
 FP2 has 1GB?
 probably not totally unrelated :)
 sounds about right. looks to me like a standard issue out of memory FP2 drama queen quit event
 @dohbee, 2Gb
 heh. someone tell my FP2 that :P
 But Audacity isn't overly memory intensive, I don't think. And it runs on my M10 too which also only has 2GB. Not sure how similar the M10 and FP2's CPU are though.
 FP2's cpu looks like this: … https://t.me/ubports_ot/13166
 MSM8974 is not bad..
 At least it'll get mainline the fastest eventually
 also, it doesn't have big.LITTLE, which is a plus to me
 more cores don't matter if they only end up draining more power
[14:35] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> install complete were are storage settings and usage
 usage is in system settings under about, iirc
[14:44] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> oh and where is the nearby scope
 it's not in the open store
[14:45] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> oh
 Where did the Nearby Scope pull its data from?
 @Mark, other scopes. it's just an aggregator: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~nearby-team/nearby-scope/trunk/view/head:/click-src/aggregator/child_scopes.json#L217
 :) That's a very interesting page! So the answer is: no, it wouldn't be easy just to create a web app in stead.
 well, it'd be easy for someone to build a click, but most of those scopes are probably no longer avaialble either
 i still happen to actually have the today scope installed. it is completely empty as all the services that used to feed content to it are no longer there. i expect the same goes for nearby scope.
 well you probably don't have any of the child scopes it queries from
 it never lived up to it's potential, and as it would be up to the maintainers to extract the data from 3rd party sources (3rd party sources like their own apps and won't cooperate without incentive $ ) i'm not surprised or upset Ubports team took a differen direction and priority
 @dohbee, it only shows telegram, in a pretty useless way
 It is a shame not to be able to use the scopes that he was present in the old versions ub ...
 @YougoChats, right, all the other scopes don't exist in the open store: https://open-store.io/?type=scope
 I'm fairly ambivalent about scopes on the whole, but the nearby scope idea was a very good one.
 i guess, if you like broadcasting your location to N different web services all at the same time
 @Mark, the "today-scope" was interesting for me
 Yes
 Today Scope
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/fX2GfmO4.png
 the one thing it shows isn't even recent
 or helpul
 [Edit] or helpful
 [Edit] or helpfull
 the telegram scope is going away at some point too, i think
 well, i guess all scopes are
[16:02] <ubptgbot> Samuele was added by: Samuele
 Hey
 Welcome Samuele
 :)
 @Samuele, Hi Samuele, you can take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 There are language groups too
 Oh! Thanks, I will.
 @advocatux, No bots?
 @advocatux, That's nice.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/WsAMUvFk.webp
 @advocatux, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
 I was reading the faq and i noticed a typo... Is there anyone that i can report that to?
[16:40] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Best OS eva
[16:40] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Is chromecast supported as wireless display
 chromecast is not supported, no
 Is there a way to emulate ubports on a pc? I'd like to try it out, but i don't have a supported device
 not really
 you can run a unity8 session on an ubuntu 16.04 VM for example, but there are some differences, and lots of apps are only compiled for armhf on 15.04
 (apps in the open store that is)
 Oh
 Well, i haven't run unity in a while … I might do that
 What about the raspberry pi?
 you could run unity8 on it too i guess. you can run more click apps from the store there, but the experience will still be mostly the same as running it on x86 PC
 Oh ok
[17:28] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> What is the status of andbox
 the status of anbox is that it's still not available on all devices, and 16.04 is not a stable release yet
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Thnx
[17:30] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Eta for 16.04
 not before it's ready
 which should be sometime before the heat death of the universe
 @Samuele, I think @wayneoutthere can tell you
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Are there any music recognition apps for ut
[17:56] <ubptgbot> Alaattin Ozcelik was added by: Alaattin Ozcelik
 @Mark Mullins, No.You could make your own webapp though
 Hello Alaattin. Check this link for more about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[18:02] <ubptgbot> Jason was added by: Sconio
 I have halium ubports installed. It does not boot, but if i try to connect thru ssh it hangs without output, and it doesnt even ask for the password. Suggestionz?
 repeat the setting up of the rmnet, maybe it's your local network manager that is messing with it
 (and there is a halium channel and a ubports porting one)
 Alternatively, let me know if this works: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/560
 Try setting the IP first.
 @dohniks, I always set it, in halium reference and plasma mobile ssh works
 I will try that thing
 It worked D:. Now i get a permission denied, but I played a bit with pam stuff so, i'll reinstall the rootfs and see if the problem was that
 @Rkstl, Hmm. What device, kernel, and chipset?
 so yeah.  is there a way to find messages to myself in the thread above?  after you check the mentioned message and then want to go back, it's lost .. anyway.
 someone here mentioned a typo?  I'm your man.  PM me any typos and I can handle this job! :)
 Samuele ^
 crap, sorry
 missclick
 @UniversalSuperBox, Samsung galaxy on7 pro anyway it works now
 However systemctl says "failed to list units:Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.systemd1:permission denied". What about this?
[18:58] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Is anyone currently working on a car mode for ut
 @wayneoutthere, Here, sorry for the late reply
 I noticed a typo in the faq in the minimum requirements section
 @Mark Mullins, not sure what that would be, so probably unlikely
 Yeah, what do you mean by car mode
 @K31j0, Probably a car integration … I think android and apple have that
 Well we can't integrate
 into their proprietary bullshit
 like CarPlay
 or Android Auto
 Of course
 For me I was thinking about integrating raspberry pi into a car after I get one
 AFAIK there's no open platform like CarPlay/Android Auto
 @K31j0, Nice!
 i'm not even sure what those two things do
 @dohbee, Me too
 Proably notification info
 They show music status, notifications, and other stuff on the car's dashboard
 And they allow the use of Siri or Google Assistant (depending on the integration, of course) from a button on the steering wheel
 @UniversalSuperBox, Music status is already a thing using bluetooth i think
 Ubuntu Touch may disappoint you there...
 well, nexus 4 apparently doesn't do a2dp anyway
 at least i couldn't get it to stream music to my car, even with android
 (Photo, 1138x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/YI6NJJ9G.png
 Maybe chip's broken
 @Samuele, @wayneoutthere
 @Samuele, I think we could pull something off with XBMC/Kodi/Whateverit'scallednow
 Aaaaaaaaaand I need to study bluez for phone integration
 @K31j0, Is kodi available yet?
 cable isn't really that great for talking to the phone, because >Android kernels
 For Pi there's even a distro which is made solely to ship kodi
 an actual in-car stereo would need a lot of customization from where unity8 is today
 the  current interaction model is not really suited for certain uses
 @K31j0, Yeah, i tried that on mine … I prefer thinkering so i installed raspbian instead
 Well I'd only use stereo as a display for my project anyway
 Or just slam a display and an amplifier in there
 no wheel controls then, but whatever
 It would be nice to have a plugin for kodi that integrates with the phone over bt
 That way it would be portable
 @K31j0, Unless you modify the wheel controls
 That needs tinkering with bluez
 @K31j0, Does bt work well rn?
 I don't even know if it has documentation
 you don't need to modify wheel controls
 @Samuele, where? I can imagine Pi3's integrated bluetooth will work well
 @dohbee, Depends on the car
 not really. what is needed, is an electrical interface to interpret the button presses
 @dohbee, The pi would be nice for that
 @K31j0, I meant in ubports
 Depends on the device I guess
 official devices marked as stable probaly work well, I have none, so I can't tell
 depending on the car, that may be CAN interface, or custom device to handle changes in resistance, or such
 or you can go for an ir or bluetooth remote control, too
 Yeah
 That could work
 i'd rather get a unity8-ish thing on my PC first, though
 In some generations of my favourite car there's fiber optics cable connecting stereo to everything else, but wheel controls have different cables prooobably
 bugatti?
 @K31j0, Fiber optics?! Nice
 @dohbee, Yeah... … Tbh i prefer xfce4
 @dohbee, Saab 9-3
 I don't dig supercars
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/cKg6wIEx.webp
 pretty sure there's no fiber in a saab
 Why would they use fiber? Seems weird
 to waste money
 Yeah
 @Rkstl, ubports uses upstart not systemd. is that it?
 @dohbee, To bankrupt
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC30RLEpKh0 some people bypass it, so
 like 2003-2007 have that
 it connects to the amp
 @dohniks, ubuntu 16.04 uses systemd for some things, upstart is still used for the user session, but systemd is used for system level things mostly
 @dohniks, Yes, latest caf sudoku 7.1 rootfs
 @dohbee, oh, I didn't know. thanks!
 I hope there are optical in/out jacks for audio
 probably not
 Meh
 If everything uses fiber, having optical jacks seems logical
 Speaking about audio, the cd player in my hifi is the weirdest thing ever
 It's an ide cd drive connected to the amplifier
 well, the fiber connections there aren't the same as the fiber audio connection you normally see on consumer electronics
 but yes, i presume it's only used for the audio channels there
 pops in
 uh
[19:25] <ubptgbot> <Wolfgang Eder> (Photo, 591x361) https://irc.ubports.com/m4blMvDq.png Anybody any clue? Try to install UBPorts on my aquaris e 4.5...
 anyway, we're getting a bit off topic now with that
 @Wolfgang Eder, You need to use SPFlashTool to install Ubuntu on your device before you can use our installer
 @dohbee, I assumed so... Using standards = making less money on official repair kits
[19:28] <ubptgbot> <Wolfgang Eder> @UniversalSuperBox, And with the SPFlash Tool I do what exactly?
 @Wolfgang Eder, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html#install-on-legacy-android-devices
 @Wolfgang Eder, Come to the install group
 we can help you there
 https://t.me/WelcomePlus
 @Samuele, are you italian Samuele? wanna join the italian group @ubportsitaliano?
[20:19] <ubptgbot> Antonio Rensi was added by: Antonio Rensi
[20:21] <ubptgbot> <Wolfgang Eder> @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the link.
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Whe can i find more about anbox on ubports UT ?
[20:23] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> [Edit] Where can i find more about anbox on ubports UT ?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html
[20:31] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Ok! Thank you!
 And another Italian 😎
 Antonio you just missed the link
 Bur check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[20:46] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Oh! Allright, I will do it.
 [Edit] But check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[20:48] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> I'm not Italian, my ancestors was, I'm brazilian.
[20:48] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> [Edit] I'm not Italian, my ancestors were, I'm brazilian.
 Sincere apologies. There is however a Portuguese group 😎
 It is in the link
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Don't worry! I love Italy!
 👍
[20:51] <ubptgbot> <Antonio Rensi> Thank you, Lionel!
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