[00:31] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> What wireless display are supported
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DisplayCasting
 I searched for "Ubuntu Touch supported wireless display"
 Your mileage may vary depending on your device, but this is generally a good resource
[01:20] <ubptgbot> Stephen Jackson was added by: Stephen Jackson
[01:21] <ubptgbot> <Stephen Jackson> Is there a .zip file for UT rather than the installer? My phone is getting hung up on "waiting to enter recovery mode."
 @technicalbird, I can't get UBports installer to detect my device, it shows up as a fastboot device (via cmdline) but Ubports just sits there waiting, any ideas?
 @JasonMD, Which os are you using?
 ubuntu
 @JasonMD, Which devi e u have?
 ok, I was using the snap version, I downloaded the .deb and installed that and that version detects my connected phone
 Nexus 4
 Me too installed using apt
 Not snap
 Installing now 😁
 It works
[05:47] <ubptgbot> jhunterz was added by: jhunterz
 Who is using 16.04? Because I have so many problems that I think that I did something wrong.
 @dotevo, No its development beta. Its not in a stable state
 I know :-) But I hoped that is more "stable" that I have
 @Flori
 @Flohack Where is the part of the UT when you are selecting Wifi to connect from bar?
 Right now I have 2 annoying bugs. :-/
 I just installed it and went straight back to 15.04
 I'm sure that UT 16.04 is not for the users.
 Correct, it's not deemed to be suitable for users until it reaches the stable channel.
 Been a while since I tried UT, is there any way of using whatsapp? I see LoquiIM does that work?
 @dotevo, What you mean?
 @Flohack, @Flo I have but that is not storing my wifi password (or is but...) and I have to write it down after each reboot.  Maybe I can fix it but I do not know in which repository I can find this part of source code.
 @Flohack, [Edit] @Flohack  I have but that is not storing my wifi password (or is but...) and I have to write it down after each reboot.  Maybe I can fix it but I do not know in which repository I can find this part of source code.
 @Flohack, [Edit] @Flohack  I have bug that is not storing my wifi password (or is but...) and I have to write it down after each reboot.  Maybe I can fix it but I do not know in which repository I can find this part of source code.
 @dotevo, This will be not so easy, a lot of devices had this problem already sometimes. And it seems to reappaer now, are you still on 16.04?
 @dotevo, on 15.04 I had solved around wifi password problem with just simple script. My problem was due to deleted NVRAM so I would end up with a new random MAC address every time I power up my UT device, but the method I used, I think it would also solve your problem.  … In a script you can edit configs in  /etc/NetworkM
[08:00] <ubptgbot> anager/system-connections/ and then restart the networking service if a profile file was altered. The phone should automatically connect afterwards. You can run such script manually, or use cron or something else, depending on your needs.
 Hi what interesting is in Unity 8?
 why is interesting?
 maybe the answers are diferent depending who is answering it. … In my case it's because of convergence enviroment and because it's unity. I'm missing it a lot in desktop 😭
 What  are you missing? Unity <=7 and Unity8 are different DEs. Both exist as community projects. Unity 7 can still be installed from the Ubuntu archive: … $ sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop … ...and select Unity from the login screen
 yeah, i know that they are different but they share a lot of concepts. Unity 8 there was still "beta" for desktop. In the case of unity 7, now that I'm testing 18.04 im missing some behaviors from unity tweak tool like minimize when clicking on the icon dash, choose behaviors to snaping points windows,  the top bar was more usefull a
[08:58] <ubptgbot> nd of course the hability to suspend the device without pressing alt key 😂 … Anyway I didn't know that i can install unity. I'm going to test it right know 😁.  Thanks Alan.
 @alan_griffiths, ohhhhhhhhhhhh looks like everything is working pretty well. 1000 thanks Alan
 Welcome Stephen & @jhunterz. If you are new to UBports I suggest that you read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @j2g2rp, It wasn't me it was https://community.ubuntu.com/c/desktop/ubuntu-unity-dev
 @Flohack I use 16.04 still :-) What is strange... After reboot when I'm trying to connect to the Wifi is asking about password "name {X+1}".
 I haven't tried Unity8 for a while either: Does the top of the window niftily turn into a menu in Unity8, like it did latterly in Unity7?
 Its creating a new entry in network manager. Sometimes also happens on 15.04 reason unknown
 for me happens all the time
 so maybe I can fix it
 @dotevo, Only 2? Then hurry up and upgrade! ;)
 @dotevo, We use a lot of packages from Ubuntu upstream. So good luck with network manager, wpa supplicant etc. Its not our code
 Maybe its just a permission problem
[10:59] <dvdk> hi, just got a refurbished nexus 5 and install ubports.  problem: microphone volume (during calls) is very low.
[10:59] <dvdk> is there any known fix?  tweaking mixer settings etc.?
 (Sticker, 392x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0x0FaiNL.webp
 This anwer could sound funny to you but I had the same problem in my N5, and I gently brushed the mic grid with a toothbrush
 and it's working fine since then
[11:08] <dvdk> i don't even know where the mic is.
[11:09] <dvdk> also there are many online reprots climing that this can be tuned on android
[11:09] <dvdk> like turning off noise cancellation.  any chance this can be tweaked on UT?
 Yep, I saw all those comments too, but as I say, the toothbrush method worked for me
 It seems the N5 speaker & mic grids are specially prone to get blocked by dirt
 Hi friends any news about nexus 5x
 dvdk, did you update your N5 to the latest Android version available before installing UT?
 @leoaslan, No, still work in progress
[11:14] <ubptgbot> OSILayer8 was added by: OSILayer8
[11:14] <dvdk> @advocatux.  no i did not.  it did show android 5.0.1. any chance i can do taht still?
 @advocatux, Ok
 dvdk if you're running UT already, see https://forums.ubports.com/topic/815/howto-n5-update-baseband-firmware
 @OSILayer8, Hi, welcome. See https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[11:21] <dvdk> @advocatux.  thanks, will give it a try.
 👍
[11:23] <dvdk> also opened up the back cover, but mic neither visible nor accessible from there :/
[11:24] <dvdk> other than that: very cool, seems to support even LTE.
 just try to clean the grids and see if the mic sound improves
[11:25] <dvdk> if that won't work, I see there are even N5 microphone replacement kits sold online...
 I have a BQ E4.5 and wanted know if it'll be possible connect by Bluetooth to a Citroen C4 when there be an OTA with 16.04. Some time ago I was able to connect but not now.
 @Cesar_Herrera are you following "The" Bluetooth Thread? … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/457/the-bluetooth-thread
 @advocatux, No, thanks.
[11:36] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Printer setup ut
 That message is as cryptic as printer's messages 😆
 @advocatux, I recall I said it on  28 Jul 2017, 22:23. I forgot it.
 Yep, I knew you were there at the beginning but I didn't know if you are still following that thread
 No. No following. Thanks.
 👍
 [Edit] No. Not following. Thanks.
 How to debug upstart? Is there a command like systemd systemctl?
 The commands are `start` `stop` and `status`. You might also be interested in `initctl`.
 Debug logs will be in `/var/log/syslog`
 only 'start'?
 Er, better logs at least
 Yep
 Ah ok, ill try thanks
 Does new rootfs supports caf, too? Because latest caf sudoku one is a bit old and misses libgui symbols
 Maybe thats why display doesnt start
 The first comment here may help: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/494
 You will get Mir servers, but Unity 8 still won't start
 But sudoku one seems broken: it misses a libgui symbol when trying to run test_hwcomposer
 So?
 It is broken
 That's why it isn't listed anywhere
 So? I update it with apt or what?
 I'd recommend switching to the standard one
 There aren't new packages
 And it works with caf?
 If you do what is in the issue I posted above, you will get Mir servers starting. You will not get Unity8.
 So no
 Also, don't use the libhybris tests inside Ubuntu Touch. They were broken while Canonical had the project due to their changes to libhybris and haven't been fixed
 The programs in the `mir-tests` package will work better for you
 I tried it also on halium test tootfs which gave me the same error. I asked in halium group and they told me libhybris was old
 Thats why i think that sudoku rootfs is old :D
[12:30] <dvdk> btw both my ubports devices (N5 and M10FHD) have an ugly browser bug: in zoom mode tap gestures are sent to the wrong screen position.
[12:34] <dvdk> this bug only seems to be WRT screen coordinates processed in java script in a canves.  clicking on links seems to work even under zoom.
 Is there a way to get unity to work on caf or i have to wait to get the UI?
 you can try to recompile and debug, I guess just no ready solution
 But if i understood clearly, there's no way to make rootfses work with caf?
 aren't most of the currently supported devices caf?
 which would imply the rootfs works
 but there are some challenges in the switch to halium
 Yay
 caf-7.1 is the one with all the changes
 5.1 is whatever
 What does it mean?
[13:31] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> how do i install an armhf file in ut
 @dvdk, That problem happens with some games too, for example Planarity
[14:36] <dvdk> @advocatux: any idea, where this is coming from?
[14:36] <dvdk> is this a problem witth the "window manager" or with chrome itself?
 @Mark Mullins, install what exactly?
[14:38] <dvdk> @advocatux: under github.com/ubports/chromium, it says "this repository is empty".  so where does the installed chromium come from (if i'd like to search the sources for the problem's cause)?
 @dvdk, I think is Oxide
[14:39] <dvdk> @advocatux: btw, baseband firmware upgrade worked like a charm.  microphone still low volume, though.
[14:40] <dvdk> ah, branding removed chromium?
 Have you brushed the grids?
[14:40] <dvdk> no, at work, no toothbrushes around here.
 the browser isn't chromium. it's an engine for qt/qml based on chromium content api
 also it's an older version
 https://github.com/ubports/oxide
[14:42] <dvdk> @advocatux, yeah, found it and just looking through the sources.  this will take some more time, nothing to do for procrastination at work :)
[14:42] <dvdk> also, there is all the toolchain complexity if i tried to rebuild&install.
 hence why oxide is not updated to latest chromium tree yet
[14:44] <dvdk> @dohbee: problems understand the connecition, so does the source in ubports/oxide/ correspond to the browser on ubports 15.04/stable or does it not?
 @dvdk, i guess the 'vivid' branch does
 but oxide is just the engine, the browser is webbrowser-app
 i'm not sure where your issue is exactly
[14:45] <dvdk> ah, ok.  maybe that simplifies the search-space.
 i have a question about adb shell. it says all over the internet i should be able to do 'adb shell input "hello%sworld"` but all i get is `/bin/bash: input: command not found` … is there something i have to or can do to get this working?
 [Edit] i have a question about adb shell. it says all over the internet i should be able to do `adb shell input "hello%sworld"` but all i get is `/bin/bash: input: command not found` … is there something i have to or can do to get this working?
 @YougoChats, You need to install adb tools
 on the pc?
 @YougoChats, what are you expecting there exactly?
 What OS are you running in your PC?
 `input` is not a valid command in the shell on the phone
 win 7, but i do realize it has that minimal 15 second adb install.
 @dohbee, hmm so no keyevents for UT?
 @YougoChats, `input` doesn't work on PC either
 what are you trying to do exactly?
 well, bity of a roundabout attempt. OSK won't come up for password or email input fields in libertine. i didn't have a BT keyboard with me, but do have a PC with adb. so i figured perhaps i can push text strings to my phone
 [Edit] well, bit of a roundabout attempt. OSK won't come up for password or email input fields in libertine. i didn't have a BT keyboard with me, but do have a PC with adb. so i figured perhaps i can push text strings to my phone
 which led me to a new and interesting way of using adb... if it works at least
 no you can't do that
 i don't know what the 'input' thing is on android, but it's not on ubuntu
 i don't know if there's any user-friendly cli tool to send an event to input device on ubuntu
 that's too bad. sending key events and text strings to devices through adb sounded like a fun feature.
 i figured it was part of adb as it is
 no, adb shell just runs a command on the phone
 input is apparently a tool included in android
 not sure if it's a generic thing that just sends events to input dev though
 no idea either
 🤔wonder if some sort of xdotool kind of solution could work.
 UT has no Xorg, but libertine does?
 libeertine is xorg on top of mir sort of
 each app is in a different X server
 or, is there actually a way to summon OSK on special input fields, which is where this all started :-P
 fix the bug :P
 anyway, need to eat
 bon appetit
[15:49] <ubptgbot> Lee was added by: Lee
 @Lee, H Leei, welcome. See https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 @Lee, [Edit] Hi Lee, welcome. See https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[16:07] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Anyone have any idea how to setup instagraph
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/tMzP994F.mp4
 Neat!
 @Ismaelbonato, The first is in staged mode and the second with windowed mode?
 Yep
 There are many things to yet
 @Ismaelbonato, Wonderfull
 Looks great for usability
 Thank for your feedback
 [Edit] There are many things to do yet
 Does anyone know if is safe to re-lock the bootloader after installing UT?
 yes, it's nice
 @advocatux, No. It will delete the os
 And all your data too of course
 @dohbee, We're discussing that in the Spanish group. I've the idea that you can't do it unless is stock rom again but someone said "no problem"
 Well it's a lie. Many problems
 @dohbee, [Edit] We're discussing that in the Spanish group. I have the idea that you can't do it unless is stock rom again but someone said "no problem"
[17:32] <ubptgbot> <Mark Mullins> Is there anyway to convert an android app to run on ubuntu
 Fwd from Security News for EveryOne: Plataforma de detección de amenazas zero-day para Linux … https://capsule8.com/ … #linux
 Fwd from Security News for EveryOne: https://www.adslzone.net/2018/04/17/hackers-rusos-router/
 Fwd from Security News for EveryOne: https://www.adslzone.net/2018/04/16/intel-vulnerabilidad-bios-uefi/
 @Diego, oh, i have the router 4G
 idem
 Those posts are between OT content and spam
 @Mark Mullins, if you have the source, you can write a port, which is easy or very hard depending on the app
 @advocatux, yeahindeed
 Besides it doesn't make sense to post in Spanish in the SG
 @advocatux, yeah... it's somewhat like English but not exactly
 @wayneoutthere, 😂 Yep... Hammer Time then?
 hammer what?
 I don't see nothing...
 de nada
 Now you see it, now you don't see it 🤔
 Problem installing Ubuntu Touch (stable) on brand new Nexus 5. I followed the steps and everything wint fine until "pushing files to device... pushing file 1 of 13" I then got the "Yikes ..." error message, selected "try again" and the installer has been hanging there for the past 15 min, while the device shows the Google logo. What s
[19:54] <ubptgbot> hould I do??
 Forget it. I finally just "pulled the plug" and started over. Looks like things are going OK.
[20:46] <ubptgbot> Krille was added by: Krille
[20:46] <ubptgbot> Denis BLED was added by: Denis BLED
[20:48] <ubptgbot> aefg was added by: aefg
 hi
 I have Ubuntu touch on my moto g3
 Hi, I am a brand new Ubuntu Touch user since one week on my nexus 5 :-)
 i am very happy with it
 @aefg, awesome
 @Krille, oh thats great
 @Krille, amazing and welcome!
 calls are a little trouble but everything else works fine
 g3?
 Hi all :)
 or on g2?
 You can find a bunch of important information about our community here:  … https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome … aefg Krille
 ah yes i think is g2
 i am not sure
 what programming languages can i use to develop an application
 I am new at programming
 I want to develop a game
 probably whatever language you want, but the SDK toolkit is for QML
 oh I see
 is the SDK available with apt install on Ubuntu?
 not really any more, and the IDE is not really being developed now
 oh
 you might want to take a look at clickable, which has some templates, and is used for building the package. and i think atom has a plug-in for it now
 emacs might have one too
 ok
 i'll look into it
 i don't think there's one for emacs
 but you can write code with emacs for sure
 Welcome Denis. If you are new to UBports I suggest that you read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Bolly, How did you make that ping
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/qu3q0d9g.mp4
 @UniversalSuperBox, copy and paste ping and edit
 I didn't mean to
 😂😂😂
 Welcome hello helllo hello🙈 @UniversalSuperBox . If you are new to UBports I suggest that you read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[21:26] <ubptgbot> <Stephen Jackson> Installed today and no mobile data. Any ideas - APN settings are correct.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I have edited the ping
 You don't need to edit it
 It's cool
 @Stephen Jackson, You might not have the APN as correct as you think, then... It took me a few tries
[22:05] <ubptgbot> <Stephen Jackson> I'll check it out again.
 those apns are a pain
 @wayneoutthere, It apns to the best of us
 nice one, Josicles
 you make me want to throat sing
 and beat box